Skins/Lions

[OrioleMagic]

McNabb and the offense are sputtering.... He is so inconsistent. He blew that pass to Santana Moss!

[OrioleMagic]

another blown pass to Galloway. :mad:

[OrioleMagic]

which McNabb will take this snap???:confused: This guy is schizo!

[OrioleMagic]

NOT a happy redskins fan here!:angryfire::cussing::angryfire::cussing::angr yfire::cussing:

[OrioleMagic]

I guess Redskins fans are so embarrassed that I am the only one dumb enough to be posting.

[backwardsk]

This line is just as bad as last year.

[backwardsk]

Oh my, it's up to Rex Grossman.

[Danielos38]

That was the stupidest decision I have ever seen, if Donovan is not injured.

[backwardsk]

Blown opportunity. McNabb won't resign here. Lost draft picks, need a new quarterback next season. Best case scenario: 2011 strike.

[CrimsonTribe]

Is Rex our white flag?

There are no words. You just can't make this stuff up.

[Moose Milligan]

What a pathetic team. Always playing down to teams they should easily beat.

[mweb]

Poor O-line play and QB play typically result in losses, as it did today.

I was very surprised they pulled McNabb though. He didn't play well, but the blocking was the biggest problem imo.

[Don Quixote]

What a pathetic team. Always playing down to teams they should easily beat.

I say this to people all the time. They do this way too often. Hence, they lose these types of games.

[AgentOrange]

I don't get the "playing down to them" comment. The Lions are a lot better than their record and the skins just aren't that good. There was a reason they were underdogs in this game.

[ccbird]

I don't get the "playing down to them" comment. The Lions are a lot better than their record and the skins just aren't that good. There was a reason they were underdogs in this game.

I wasn't going to touch it, but I was suprised the line was -3 and how many people were still on the Lions.

[Big Mac]

Shanahan pulling McNabb for Grossman is the stupidest thing I've maybe ever seen.

Also, why do we have Stephon Heyer?? He is honestly the worst OT I've ever seen. The guy wouldn't start on most high level college teams...

[Dr. FLK]

Shanahan pulling McNabb for Grossman is the stupidest thing I've maybe ever seen.

Also, why do we have Stephon Heyer?? He is honestly the worst OT I've ever seen. The guy wouldn't start on most high level college teams...

Why do we have Rabach? He was dominated all game. He stepped on Donovan twice because he was in such a hurry to start back-pedaling. Hopefully next year's draft will land us some more OL, because we need a LG, C, RG, RT...

That benching was ridiculous. And, on the first drop back, Sexy Rexy got killed just like Donovan had been all game. Donovan was far from great and definitely made some stupid mistakes, but that game was still winnable...no logical justification can be made for saying Sexy Rexy gives you a better chance to win that game.

[NewMarketSean]

The guys on 980 said it perfectly this morning. For all the positive momentum this team was making and fans feeling better about the coaching staff this year -- all that went out of the window in 5 minutes. There is no way to spin that move...very dumb decision there, IMO.

[OrioleMagic]

In retrospect, pulling McNabb was a big mistake... BUT! I can see what led up to it for sure. McNabb has been very inconsistent all year. He will throw into the ground in front of the receiver, then throw a beautiful pass, then over throw everybody by a mile. I am not convinced McNabb is a part of a solution to the Redskins problems.

Yesterday, the Detroit DL was awesome and kicked the Skins OL's butt all over the place and that was the #1 problem.

[Sports Guy]

That was one of the dumbest decisions and explanations I have seen from a head coach in a long long time.

Oh well, this is why the Skins are the Skins I guess.

[JDubs]

That was one of the dumbest decisions and explanations I have seen from a head coach in a long long time.

Agree completely.


Oh well, this is why the Skins are the Skins I guess.

And this is what makes SG, SG.

[Sports Guy]

And this is what makes SG, SG.

Yea I know people like you hate hearing the truth.

The Skins have been a joke for a while...denying that is not only funny but sad as well.

And then, they make a decision like that? It just goes with their recent history of stupid decisions that makes the organization a joke.

[OrioleMagic]

Yea I know people like you hate hearing the truth.

The Skins have been a joke for a while...denying that is not only funny but sad as well.

And then, they make a decision like that? It just hates to their recent history of stupid decisions that makes the organization a joke.

Why post this? This is just inflammatory.

[Sports Guy]

Why post this? This is just inflammatory.

Because Jdubs had to take a shot at me...and it was a deserved and true rebuttal. JDubs always has to take shots at the Ravens and their fans, so he deserves everything he gets.

[Moose Milligan]

Yea I know people like you hate hearing the truth.

The Skins have been a joke for a while...denying that is not only funny but sad as well.


http://mysixcents.files.wordpress.com/2010/01/captain-obvious.jpg

But thanks for telling us the truth. I wasn't aware until you showed up.

[Dr. FLK]

Yea I know people like you hate hearing the truth.

The Skins have been a joke for a while...denying that is not only funny but sad as well.

And then, they make a decision like that? It just goes with their recent history of stupid decisions that makes the organization a joke.

Way to ignore the fact that the people making their "actual" recent decisions are different than the ones making the "SG example recent decisions." I don't think you can lump Shanny/Allen in with the previous decade of incompetence and failure...

[Sports Guy]

Way to ignore the fact that the people making their "actual" recent decisions are different than the ones making the "SG example recent decisions." I don't think you can lump Shanny/Allen in with the previous decade of incompetence and failure...

I actually agree with this but does this really matter?

I mean, we bash on AM and DT and they were new people making decisions..yet they were still poor.

It hasn't mattered who was making the decisions for the Skins..they are still doing a poor job of it.

This move by Shanahan, who I agree is a very good coach, is one of the worst moves I have ever seen a coach make.

[Dr. FLK]

I actually agree with this but does this really matter?

I mean, we bash on AM and DT and they were new people making decisions..yet they were still poor.

It hasn't mattered who was making the decisions for the Skins..they are still doing a poor job of it.

This move by Shanahan, who I agree is a very good coach, is one of the worst moves I have ever seen a coach make.

Yes, it does. In Baltimore, "we" tend to assume that PA is still meddling (at least those who make comments similar to yours). In DC, it's largely assumed that Danny Boy has put his meddling ways aside (for now), and he's letting Shanny/Allen have control.

[Sports Guy]

Yes, it does. In Baltimore, "we" tend to assume that PA is still meddling (at least those who make comments similar to yours). In DC, it's largely assumed that Danny Boy has put his meddling ways aside (for now), and he's letting Shanny/Allen have control.

I have no doubt that Shanny made this decision.

But its almost as if you get to DC and your football IQ gets dumber.

[Dr. FLK]

I have no idea that Shanny made this decision.

But its almost as if you get to DC and your football IQ gets dumber.

Who else would have made it? If it wasn't one Shanny, it was the other...

[Sports Guy]

Who else would have made it? If it wasn't one Shanny, it was the other...

Sorry, that was a mistake..I meant to say doubt not idea.

[ccbird]

I know Riggins is a Snyder hater and I also get the sense that he's often full of hot air so take the following for what its worth to you:


Riggins said yesterday that he heardthe McNabb acquisition was Snyder's call and not the direction Allen/ Shanahan wanted to go. Yesterday, he speculated that Shanny was taking a stand with the move to pull McNabb.

[JDubs]

Oh well, this is why the Skins are the Skins I guess.

Yes, I took an unwarranted shot at you. It couldn't possibly have been in response to this snide and unnecessary comment.

Honestly, its not the worst comment you've ever made, but I don't think there were any redskins fans creeping into the Ravens board to say crap after they almost lost to the Bills. There is no possible way you can think you know more about how awful the Skins have been than Redskins fans, so the only possible reason you can have for pointing it out, is to rub it in.

Also, to say I "always take shots at ravens and their fans" shows me that you haven't been paying attention. Once the Redskins section was created, I've been a church mouse. I never had a problem with the Ravens anyways. Why would I? They have virtually nothing to do with the Redskins.

I didn't even neg rep you. Thanks for the true rebuttal though.

[OrioleMagic]

Yes, I took an unwarranted shot at you. It couldn't possibly have been in response to this snide and unnecessary comment.

Honestly, its not the worst comment you've ever made, but I don't think there were any redskins fans creeping into the Ravens board to say crap after they almost lost to the Bills. There is no possible way you can think you know more about how awful the Skins have been than Redskins fans, so the only possible reason you can have for pointing it out, is to rub it in.

This! This pain is incredible and can be witnessed by the posts of die-hard Skins fans.

[Nigel Tufnel]

Shanahan: McNabb doesn't know the terminology. No, I mean he out of shape. Wait, he's actually still hurt..... yeaaaah, he's hurt - that's the ticket.

[JDubs]

I am concerned that McNabb's benching is due to Kyle Shanahan's unwillingness to tailor his system to his personnel. Typically, one would say, "my QB1 is having trouble with (insert aspect of game). How can I simplify/adjust the game plan to put him in a position to succeed." Lil' Shanny appears to be saying, "my system is more important than my personnel," which is absurd. One would expect the Head Coach to step and in set things right, but obviously Dad is going to give son a bit more leeway than he would another OC.

This scenario, if true, creates resentment from the players and staffers. The specific decision to bench McNabb is even worse than that because now the players are wondering what the heck is going on. They know McNabb gives them the best chance to win and Grossman pretty much removes any chance to win. It's gotta be difficult to get motivated when you don't know if you are going to have a shot or not. Shanahan needs to be transparent with them, but unfortunately, he couldn't be more opaque.

Good thing P. Manning is refusing to negotiate for an extension, will become a free agent, and sign with the Redskins for 2011-12. (Source: My Unreasonable Hopes and Dreams)

[mweb]

Meanwhile Jason Campbell has been playing pretty well since getting his job back.:D

[Dr. FLK]

Meanwhile Jason Campbell has been playing pretty well since getting his job back.:D

Ha...please...just go be an Oakland fan. ;)

[backwardsk]

Such a crappy game. Too many penalties, including the offsides that turned a field goal into a TD and the block in the back on Banks' first TD return. If you said that the Skins would be 4-4 at the bye, I'd take it. It just sucks that they had a chance to be 5-3 and on pace with the other teams in the NFC.

[Mad Mark]

I am concerned that McNabb's benching is due to Kyle Shanahan's unwillingness to tailor his system to his personnel.

I see this with so damned many football coaches; this "I'll bend the players I have to my system" attitude, rather than bending the system to the players at hand until you can get the guys who fit your system.
It made no sense when Shottenheimer did it. It makes no sense with Shanahan pere et fils doing it. It makes no sense, period.

[allstar1579]

I see this with so damned many football coaches; this "I'll bend the players I have to my system" attitude, rather than bending the system to the players at hand until you can get the guys who fit your system.
It made no sense when Shottenheimer did it. It makes no sense with Shanahan pere et fils doing it. It makes no sense, period.

It's a 6 in one hand, half dozen in the other situation. A lot of times you see the mismatch try to get forced, then the coach gets fired before he has a chance to find someone that works with his system, so you don't really get enough feedback to see if that is what is needed.

I do know that Schaub did much better last year than he is this year. We all knew part of the risk with McNabb was that he was older and could be declining. While I'll agree it's hard to read correctly because you have to wonder if the interior O-line + Heyer has just been playing poorly lately, if the lack of a good blocking RB has been hurting, or if McNabb has just gotten a little slower in his reads, or doesn't mesh well with the system. Maybe they should put him in the shotty so he has more time for that deep read, but it seems to me that Armstrong is open deep every other play and he throws to his favorite targets (Moss, Cooley) anyway.

I'm not 100% sure who I think is at fault, but I don't think coaches need to change their whole system for a guy that isn't promised to be there more than a year. I think they should find the right players for their system and build from there. It's no secret Shanny likes to draft his QBs and develop them, and he will this year I'm sure. But we also need a RB, and short of signing S. Jackson this year, I'm not sure how they fill both holes in one offseason if they go QB early.

[JDubs]

Meanwhile Jason Campbell has been playing pretty well since getting his job back.:D

Yeah, but any QB could be successful playing for the model franchise of the Raiders! :rofl:

[Dr. FLK]

Can't we just find a coach who (a) knows how to coach and (b) doesn't make all of his players hate him immediately?