View Full Version : The $100 million Flop
Tony-OH
11-22-2010, 09:45 PM
I know you guys probably hate this guy more than the Yankees, but man he should have been cut after this kind of "effort." What a turd.
http://thechive.files.wordpress.com/2010/11/albert-haynesworth-fail.gif?w=500&h=295
Well good thing it's not really 100 million dollars.
But I really can't blame Albert too much for this situation. He signed here for the money obviously, but also to star in a defense that he is well-suited for, not a 3-4 where he is suppossed to just occupy the middle of the line. So now they changed the defense and are asking him to do something that doesn't suit his game. If they kept the 4-3, he likely wouldn't be such a flop. Plus, when given the chance, he actually has been productive in limited time this year when allowed to do his thing.
Sports Guy
11-22-2010, 11:18 PM
Well good thing it's not really 100 million dollars.
But I really can't blame Albert too much for this situation. He signed here for the money obviously, but also to star in a defense that he is well-suited for, not a 3-4 where he is suppossed to just occupy the middle of the line. So now they changed the defense and are asking him to do something that doesn't suit his game. If they kept the 4-3, he likely wouldn't be such a flop. Plus, when given the chance, he actually has been productive in limited time this year when allowed to do his thing.
What a crock of bs.
He was brought in by the Skins and given the biggest defensive contract ever.
They decided that their personnel was better fit for the 3-4 and wanted Albert to head the middle of that up.
His response? To be a big baby.
What is this going to effect? His legacy? He isn't going to get another contract in all likelihood had he stayed in DC, shut his mouth and did his job.
The Redskins aren't making their defense to suit one player..they are doing what they feel is best for the TEAM.
He is a pathetic player and should be ashamed of himself. Give me 100 TOs and Randy Moss's over this joker.
What a crock of bs.
He was brought in by the Skins and given the biggest defensive contract ever.
They decided that their personnel was better fit for the 3-4 and wanted Albert to head the middle of that up.
His response? To be a big baby.
What is this going to effect? His legacy? He isn't going to get another contract in all likelihood had he stayed in DC, shut his mouth and did his job.
The Redskins aren't making their defense to suit one player..they are doing what they feel is best for the TEAM.
He is a pathetic player and should be ashamed of himself. Give me 100 TOs and Randy Moss's over this joker.
Well it's not best for the team. He is also not a pathetic player and has actually played pretty well when given the chance this year, but he's just not a good fit for what they would want from him if he were a starter. But it's not like you watch much of them so I wouldn't expect you to know that he has played well for much of the season when he's been on the field. Cue SG joke about why would he watch the Skins.
Again, he does have good reason to be upset about the change in defense, but I will say that he should have handled it differently.
Sports Guy
11-23-2010, 12:56 AM
Well it's not best for the team. He is also not a pathetic player and has actually played pretty well when given the chance this year, but he's just not a good fit for what they would want from him if he were a starter. But it's not like you watch much of them so I wouldn't expect you to know that he has played well for much of the season when he's been on the field. Cue SG joke about why would he watch the Skins.
Again, he does have good reason to be upset about the change in defense, but I will say that he should have handled it differently.
I don't care what he has done on the field...He is a pathetic person.
The guy is a disgrace to his team and the league.
To even remotely defend him in this situation is just horrible.
BTW, I think both sides handled the situation poorly..I don't put it all on the shoulders of Haynesworth but he is the employee and should be doing what he is told, especially after taking that 20+ millon dollar bonus.
I don't care what he has done on the field...He is a pathetic person.
The guy is a disgrace to his team and the league.
To even remotely defend him in this situation is just horrible.
BTW, I think both sides handled the situation poorly..I don't put it all on the shoulders of Haynesworth but he is the employee and should be doing what he is told, especially after taking that 20+ millon dollar bonus.
Well I guess I'll have another horrible position in your eyes. That's fine with me.
You are right that he didn't have to accept the bonus, I'll grant you that. I guess I'm missing how he's a disgrace to his team and the NFL though. That's rather strong.
JDubs
11-23-2010, 01:28 AM
I don't care what he has done on the field...He is a pathetic person.
The guy is a disgrace to his team and the league.
To even remotely defend him in this situation is just horrible.
BTW, I think both sides handled the situation poorly..I don't put it all on the shoulders of Haynesworth but he is the employee and should be doing what he is told, especially after taking that 20+ millon dollar bonus.
You act is so old. Argue with everything, listen to nothing. Have you ever thought that people come here to learn and discuss, not argue? We get it, you like to be contrary. It's honestly pretty sad. Perhaps this is why you have to come here to get your kicks rather than responding to your 'readers' on your 'blog.'
Sports Guy
11-23-2010, 01:40 AM
You act is so old. Argue with everything, listen to nothing. Have you ever thought that people come here to learn about things, not argue about them? We get it. You like to be contrary. You start some good threads, but you are clearly just looking for arguments. It's honestly pretty sad.
What are you talking about? Look, I know you have decided that you have to obsess about me but please, go away..grown ups are trying to talk.
I am not arguing about anything..Haynesworth is a joke, which was Tony's point. I am agreeing with him.
How about this..Let's see if you can actually talk about sports intelligently..You have yet to show, in any thread about sports, that you can do this. You are really in over your head on this site for what i can see.
You started off crying about the Ravens and their fans and then, you admit that now that you got your way(a redskins board) that you don't bother Ravens fans...especially after you were humiliated there left and right.
And now, after being called out on it by so many of us, you have decided to troll me..and instead of attempting to have a discussion with me, you resort to this bs. I will take that as you knowing that you have no chance against me in a debate.
So, why don't you attempt to be a man and talk sports instead of these childish games..otherwise, go away.
Moose Milligan
11-23-2010, 04:22 AM
SG is right, Haynesworth is a joke.
mweb is also right, he's played fairly well when he's played this year....unfortunately he's not on the field all the time.
By and large, the Haynesworth signing was a mistake.
Dr. FLK
11-23-2010, 09:06 AM
Albert has played well when he's been on the field. The problem is, he's hardly ever on the field. Why? Because if put him on the field in anything outside of a near "perfect" situation, he cries and pouts. He's a joke. He's a child. He's a fool. And it's beyond me how anyone could defend him at this point.
NewMarketSean
11-23-2010, 10:07 AM
I also don't see how Haynesworth hasnt been anything but a huge disaster. It would be like Peter Angelos signing the best player at his position for the biggest contract ever and then the O's realize that he's not capable of playing full-time. And while when he does play, he does OK, but not close to what he's being paid to do, and then throws fits in the middle of the game like being a slug.
Araqnid
11-23-2010, 10:09 AM
The Redskins screwed him over for sure here, but any other athlete would have asked for a trade, and if it didn't come, they would compete anyway and not try to make the team look better for its actions.
Haynesworth would have had a lot of sympathy, in my opinion very deserved, if he had just shut his mouth and played. Unfortunately he didn't.
Dr. FLK
11-23-2010, 10:10 AM
I also don't see how Haynesworth hasnt been anything but a huge disaster. It would be like Peter Angelos signing the best player at his position for the biggest contract ever and then the O's realize that he's not capable of playing full-time. And while when he does play, he does OK, but not close to what he's being paid to do, and then throws fits in the middle of the game like being a slug.
Pretty much. It's been a disaster. They have been able to get some performance out of him this year to try and make the best out of a horrid situation. But IMO, many people exaggerate that fact and use it to ignore the overall disaster that he has been.
Araqnid
11-23-2010, 10:10 AM
I also don't see how Haynesworth hasnt been anything but a huge disaster. It would be like Peter Angelos signing the best player at his position for the biggest contract ever and then the O's realize that he's not capable of playing full-time. And while when he does play, he does OK, but not close to what he's being paid to do, and then throws fits in the middle of the game like being a slug.
If Barry Zito did nothing but whine (which from everything I've heard, he's been a complete class act with the Giants), then I think the signings would be comparable.
Dr. FLK
11-23-2010, 10:13 AM
If Barry Zito did nothing but whine (which from everything I've heard, he's been a complete class act with the Giants), then I think the signings would be comparable.
I don't even think that would be comparable. Albert hasn't been held off of the field because he wasn't good enough. All of his problems have been due to lack of effort and desire. Zito has just been bad. But, from all reports, he's giving it his all and being a great guy in the clubhouse - while doing whatever is askewd of him.
waroriole
11-23-2010, 10:17 AM
Wow, that play should be enough to get him a big fine from the Redskins. Unless he was injured, he would have just lost his entire game check if I were in charge.
Tony-OH
11-23-2010, 12:09 PM
I'm actually shocked that Redskins fans actually are defending him. I thought for sure you guys would be madder than anyone over his act. Guess that's the biggest difference between our two teams. Ravens fans expect our players to actually play hard and care about their teams and if they don't, we're the first ones to run them out of town.
NewMarketSean
11-23-2010, 12:22 PM
If Barry Zito did nothing but whine (which from everything I've heard, he's been a complete class act with the Giants), then I think the signings would be comparable.
Zito has pitched decently the last two years and has come close to pitching 200 IP in each season with the Giants. He may not be close to being worth what he is getting paid, but you are at least getting something out of him on a full time basis.
With Haynesworth the Redskins have gotten little whenever they've used him and he continues to be a distraction for that team.
Meanwhile, the Giants just won the World Series.
Dr. FLK
11-23-2010, 01:06 PM
I'm actually shocked that Redskins fans actually are defending him. I thought for sure you guys would be madder than anyone over his act. Guess that's the biggest difference between our two teams. Ravens fans expect our players to actually play hard and care about their teams and if they don't, we're the first ones to run them out of town.
Let's not get all "our fans our smarter than your fans" here. Redskins fans are mad. There are very few "defending" him, and even less defending the play you mentioned. But, I believe that groups of them are becoming less mad since he is finally providing some production. I don't think you'll see any saying he's lived up to his contract. The real divide is whether he should be jettisoned immediately or utilized as effectively as possible since we're stuck with him...sort of a "lesser of 2 evils" type argument. It sure sounds like you're misconstruing things here.
Moose Milligan
11-23-2010, 01:25 PM
The Redskins screwed him over for sure here, but any other athlete would have asked for a trade, and if it didn't come, they would compete anyway and not try to make the team look better for its actions.
Haynesworth would have had a lot of sympathy, in my opinion very deserved, if he had just shut his mouth and played. Unfortunately he didn't.
How'd the Redskins screw him over? IIRC he was given time to seek a trade, knowing that if he elected to stay he'd be playing in a 3-4. He stayed, accepted his bonus and knew what he was getting into. The Redskins in no way shape or form screwed Haynesworth over.
I'm actually shocked that Redskins fans actually are defending him. I thought for sure you guys would be madder than anyone over his act. Guess that's the biggest difference between our two teams. Ravens fans expect our players to actually play hard and care about their teams and if they don't, we're the first ones to run them out of town.
Who here's defending him? Some of us have pointed out that he's played well when he's been on the field...which is the absolute truth. Example:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5QUKOPAAO2k
The problem, as many have noted, is that he's not on the field that much. I don't pretend to speak for all Redskins fans but I'm pretty much tired of his act. 6 months ago I was pretty pissed but now it's whatever. The team has bigger problems to deal with.
But don't break your arm patting yourself on the back for being a Ravens fan that proudly "runs players out of town." I'm sure Ozzie Newsome has more to do with that than you do. ;)
allstar1579
11-23-2010, 01:52 PM
I'm actually shocked that Redskins fans actually are defending him. I thought for sure you guys would be madder than anyone over his act. Guess that's the biggest difference between our two teams. Ravens fans expect our players to actually play hard and care about their teams and if they don't, we're the first ones to run them out of town.
I am. I didn't like the signing then and I REALLY don't like it now, but I can't change it, so no use crying over it really. I think he's a horrible excuse for a pro athlete, takes plays off, and is too lazy to put the work in to be good. I imagine it's like you guys and Gaither (minus the $100m) where you are frustrated because if he would just play to his ability he'd help the team, but he's not, so you don't want him there.
Albert has played well when he's been on the field. The problem is, he's hardly ever on the field. Why? Because if put him on the field in anything outside of a near "perfect" situation, he cries and pouts. He's a joke. He's a child. He's a fool. And it's beyond me how anyone could defend him at this point.
Not true. Haslett and company don't want him out there much of the time because they don't think he fits what they want from him in their defense.
I also don't see how Haynesworth hasnt been anything but a huge disaster. It would be like Peter Angelos signing the best player at his position for the biggest contract ever and then the O's realize that he's not capable of playing full-time. And while when he does play, he does OK, but not close to what he's being paid to do, and then throws fits in the middle of the game like being a slug.
Not a good analogy at all. They signed the arguably the best DT at penetrating into the backfield and then in year two asked him to do exactly the opposite of that. So basically another dumb move by the Skins. It has nothing to do with them realizing he can't play full-time because he can play as much as he did with the Titans, but it doesn't make sense to play him in certain situations due to the system they use. He also has played a lot better than OK since coming back from his personal leave. Other than the play Tony started the thread with, I have no clue what fits you are talking about.
Dr. FLK
11-23-2010, 03:06 PM
Not true. Haslett and company don't want him out there much of the time because they don't think he fits what they want from him in their defense.
And he's expressed no interest in adapting his game to fit what they want.
I don't even think that would be comparable. Albert hasn't been held off of the field because he wasn't good enough. All of his problems have been due to lack of effort and desire. Zito has just been bad. But, from all reports, he's giving it his all and being a great guy in the clubhouse - while doing whatever is askewd of him.
Where are all these reports that Albert isn't putting forth good effort now? Yes, there was the fitness test beack in camp, but otherwise I haven't been hearing this complaint. He's also been fine with his teammates from what I hear. And yes, Albert has been held off the field because he's not good enough, at least at what they want from him, which is the opposite of what he's good at and why they signed him.
But maybe you'll show me where you are hearing these things.
And he's expressed no interest in adapting his game to fit what they want.
So I must have been imagining things when he said otherwise.
I'm actually shocked that Redskins fans actually are defending him. I thought for sure you guys would be madder than anyone over his act. Guess that's the biggest difference between our two teams. Ravens fans expect our players to actually play hard and care about their teams and if they don't, we're the first ones to run them out of town.
If you are going back to the summer, fine, and they should have gotten rid of him since he's a poor fit for the 3-4 and wanted out. But otherwise, I'm not sure what this is based on besides this one play, which too much is being made of imo. If he tried to get up, the guy was right there to keep him down anyway.
Tony-OH
11-23-2010, 04:06 PM
If you are going back to the summer, fine, and they should have gotten rid of him since he's a poor fit for the 3-4 and wanted out. But otherwise, I'm not sure what this is based on besides this one play, which too much is being made of imo. If he tried to get up, the guy was right there to keep him down anyway.
Hey, I just said I was surprised that he still had fans left. Most Ravens fans hated Gaither for being a slug. I only follow the Redskins through the national press so if you think he's doing a good job and is being screwed by the coaches then so be it. I'm just surprised, that's all.
I am however very glad you guys signed him and not us. Ravens aren't allowed to take plays off or not perform well because the system may not be perfect for them. We don't allow excuses. Perform or leave.
Dr. FLK
11-23-2010, 04:16 PM
So I must have been imagining things when he said otherwise.
Like when he says he doesn't want to play nose, but he does want to rush the passer? So, they don't use him really in anything but pass rushing situations. Yeah, I guess I made that up. I'm sure he's a good soldier doing his best to adapt to playing nose in a 3-4 scheme.
Hey, I just said I was surprised that he still had fans left. Most Ravens fans hated Gaither for being a slug. I only follow the Redskins through the national press so if you think he's doing a good job and is being screwed by the coaches then so be it. I'm just surprised, that's all.
I am however very glad you guys signed him and not us. Ravens aren't allowed to take plays off or not perform well because the system may not be perfect for them. We don't allow excuses. Perform or leave.
I don't think taking plays off is an issue for him.
Like when he says he doesn't want to play nose, but he does want to rush the passer? So, they don't use him really in anything but pass rushing situations. Yeah, I guess I made that up. I'm sure he's a good soldier doing his best to adapt to playing nose in a 3-4 scheme.
When was that? I recall that a long time ago, but since then I've heard he's willing to do whatever they want him to do.
allstar1579
11-23-2010, 08:53 PM
I don't think taking plays off is an issue for him.
Are you SERIOUS??? He's done this his entire career, even in his career year. Can you think of ONE game last year where he didn't have some "injury" where the trainers came out to check him, he came out the game, and then went back in a few plays later?
You don't notice it much if you aren't looking for it because he's a DT and no one just focuses on the trench battles, you are watching the QB or the RB, but if you find him and watch him, I promise you will see him just go through the motions on some plays, and then other plays you'll see him give some effort and try to get into the backfield.
allstar1579
11-23-2010, 08:54 PM
When was that? I recall that a long time ago, but since then I've heard he's willing to do whatever they want him to do.
He was still saying that a few weeks ago. Seems like forever because of the McNabb drama, but I remember hearing him almost gloat saying he was finally getting the system because they were letting him rush the passer more back near Halloween sometime.
Don Quixote
11-23-2010, 09:18 PM
I was never impressed with the signing from the get-go; I didn't see the point.
Are you SERIOUS??? He's done this his entire career, even in his career year. Can you think of ONE game last year where he didn't have some "injury" where the trainers came out to check him, he came out the game, and then went back in a few plays later?
You don't notice it much if you aren't looking for it because he's a DT and no one just focuses on the trench battles, you are watching the QB or the RB, but if you find him and watch him, I promise you will see him just go through the motions on some plays, and then other plays you'll see him give some effort and try to get into the backfield.
Yes I am serious. He's generally played well when given the chance to play this year. He's also given pretty good effort. I'm not saying he's Charlie Hustle or has handled thing well, but I think the criticism on here is over the top.
Mad Mark
11-24-2010, 12:10 AM
Ravens aren't allowed to take plays off or not perform well because the system may not be perfect for them. We don't allow excuses. Perform or leave.
What's this "we" s**t, Kemosabe? You work for the Ravens in some capacity? Also, last I checked, every team in the NFL allows excuses...for certain players. Just look for the ones with the biggest paychecks.
That said, the Haynesworth signing, like most of Little Danny Danger's signings, was appallingly misguided and detrimental to the long term prospects of the Washington NFL franchise. It was--for the first 15 minutes, anyway--a brilliant marketing move...which is the only thing Little Danny Danger is actually good at.
JDubs
11-24-2010, 12:49 AM
I'm self-important and your a little pansy man.
Don't flatter yourself. I call BS when I see it, unfortunately, it seems like the only time I see it is in your posts. I'm really not impressed by your posturing or your insults disguised as content. Don't get your hopes up, I'm not going anywhere.
I've heard this message board (http://duke.rivals.com/forum.asp?sid=1021&fid=1690&style=2) is super cool. Maybe you should check it out. This one seems like it would appeal to you. (http://boards.ign.com/teh_vestibule/b5296/197828256/p1/?15)
JDubs
11-24-2010, 01:07 AM
Hey, I just said I was surprised that he still had fans left. Most Ravens fans hated Gaither for being a slug. I only follow the Redskins through the national press so if you think he's doing a good job and is being screwed by the coaches then so be it. I'm just surprised, that's all.
I am however very glad you guys signed him and not us. Ravens aren't allowed to take plays off or not perform well because the system may not be perfect for them. We don't allow excuses. Perform or leave.
If you come into this forum slinging insults about any Redskins player, expect a backlash, just like any other NFL forum. We may not like him, but don't expect us to be ok with a fan of another team pointing out his short-comings. He may be our ugly duckling, but for the time being, he's ours. We root for him every single week. We are invested. As for the 'we don't allow excuses' language, I mean...come on.
You have McClain saying something stupid from week to week and then spitting on players. You have Gaither, who was acquired with a 5th round pick, who made excuse after excuse until finally, rather than managing it early, the Ravens let it escalate until they had to IR him. There is the biggest excuse in the NFL (other than Vick now) in Ray Lewis, probably the best Raven in the history of the franchise who was excused for his criminal behavior. There is Mason who gripes to the media every single week. There is Ed Reed, one of my own personal favorites, who basically called out the front office repeatedly to the media--one of them has to be wrong. I haven't even mentioned your top draft pick not even stepping on the field because he fell down the stairs and fractured his skull...but he was still given a slot contract (i.e. $$$). Even Terrence Cody didn't pass his conditioning test in training camp like our $100 million (err...$42 million) man.
No excuses though, right?
JDubs
11-24-2010, 01:46 AM
Let's not get all "our fans our smarter than your fans" here.
No, let's do exactly that:
If you want some real food for thought, the most interesting demographic was educational background, which showed that the preference for the Redskins went up steadily along with the level of academic achievement. Only 21 percent of respondents with a high school diploma or less favored the 'Skins, but the number jumped to 33 percent for fans with a college degree and 40 percent among fans who attended graduate school.
Source: Peter Schmuck, The Baltimore Sun (Article (http://articles.baltimoresun.com/2010-10-26/sports/bs-sp-schmuck-column-1027-20101026_1_ravens-redskins-redskins-and-ravens-opinionworks/2))
Clearly, I'm kidding. I don't want there to be any misunderstanding. I just found it humorous.
Moose Milligan
11-24-2010, 04:07 AM
What's this "we" s**t, Kemosabe? You work for the Ravens in some capacity? Also, last I checked, every team in the NFL allows excuses...for certain players. Just look for the ones with the biggest paychecks.
Oh, I thought I saw Tony roaming the sidelines on Sunday.
Mad Mark
11-24-2010, 09:28 AM
Oh, I thought I saw Tony roaming the sidelines on Sunday.
He's the Zelig/Waldo of the Hangout...he's everywhere! :D
If you come into this forum slinging insults about any Redskins player, expect a backlash, just like any other NFL forum. We may not like him, but don't expect us to be ok with a fan of another team pointing out his short-comings. He may be our ugly duckling, but for the time being, he's ours. We root for him every single week. We are invested. As for the 'we don't allow excuses' language, I mean...come on.
You have McClain saying something stupid from week to week and then spitting on players. You have Gaither, who was acquired with a 5th round pick, who made excuse after excuse until finally, rather than managing it early, the Ravens let it escalate until they had to IR him. There is the biggest excuse in the NFL (other than Vick now) in Ray Lewis, probably the best Raven in the history of the franchise who was excused for his criminal behavior. There is Mason who gripes to the media every single week. There is Ed Reed, one of my own personal favorites, who basically called out the front office repeatedly to the media--one of them has to be wrong. I haven't even mentioned your top draft pick not even stepping on the field because he fell down the stairs and fractured his skull...but he was still given a slot contract (i.e. $$$). Even Terrence Cody didn't pass his conditioning test in training camp like our $100 million (err...$42 million) man.
No excuses though, right?
Your the worst poster on this site. The part that is in bold does not even make sense. In your own way, I can tell your taking a shot at Ray Lewis for being at a club at the wrong time. What are you 6, have you never gone out drinking with friends and something bad happen to someone at the bar/club?
http://sports.yahoo.com/video/player/news/Graham_Bensinger_InDepth/23037542;_ylt=Au22bI6B5cTqubLKv59wRzDhMMQF#news/Graham_Bensinger_InDepth/23037542
Err Terrance Cody is making less then 1 million a year for three years err try again.
Ed Reed, McClain, Mason, Gaither..... Gaither is a FA has never been very well accepted he has been a better tackle then the Redskins have had since a healthy early on Samuels. Have these three players ever said in the entire history with the Ravens I am not playing because of the formation of the defense or offense they were playing in? Hell McClain went from starting RB to fullback with out much of anything. (just some shirts he made advocating for more carries) Its not that he can not be a RB either its because we have one of the best RB's in the game Ray Rice. Ed Reed went off the deep end this off season but he was dealt with. They put him on pup him to teach this guy a lesson about training camp. They called his bluff about being injured and he did not like it. That is why you heard the complaining. Then he turned in to a model coach during his time off and helped every game with game prep and calling defenses during his time off lessened learned imo.
One more thing try and find video of anyone you mentioned taking a play off like the one Tony posted.
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ChaosLex
11-24-2010, 11:16 AM
If you come into this forum slinging insults about any Redskins player, expect a backlash, just like any other NFL forum.
Perhaps now you understand why Ravens fans used to get so aggravated with you when you did the same thing on our board? ;)
Tony-OH
11-24-2010, 11:32 AM
If you come into this forum slinging insults about any Redskins player, expect a backlash, just like any other NFL forum. We may not like him, but don't expect us to be ok with a fan of another team pointing out his short-comings. He may be our ugly duckling, but for the time being, he's ours. We root for him every single week. We are invested. As for the 'we don't allow excuses' language, I mean...come on.
You have McClain saying something stupid from week to week and then spitting on players. You have Gaither, who was acquired with a 5th round pick, who made excuse after excuse until finally, rather than managing it early, the Ravens let it escalate until they had to IR him. There is the biggest excuse in the NFL (other than Vick now) in Ray Lewis, probably the best Raven in the history of the franchise who was excused for his criminal behavior. There is Mason who gripes to the media every single week. There is Ed Reed, one of my own personal favorites, who basically called out the front office repeatedly to the media--one of them has to be wrong. I haven't even mentioned your top draft pick not even stepping on the field because he fell down the stairs and fractured his skull...but he was still given a slot contract (i.e. $$$). Even Terrence Cody didn't pass his conditioning test in training camp like our $100 million (err...$42 million) man.
No excuses though, right?
You guys are more sensitive than the nerve endings in Theisman's leg. Relax man, I thought I would find a bunch of pissed off Redskins fans over Haynesworth, but instead I found a few excuse artists. I guess all that losing has your sites set low. We have a little higher standards, but that's because we actually expect our team to do well.
And by the way, you are not seriously trying deride the Ravens draft picks and personnel decision are you? Really? Really? That's like a blind man complaining about the color of the walls. ;)
If the Ravens signed a guy like Haynesworth for $100 million I'd be be pissing and moaning about him every week after the "effort" he puts out.
That being said, I didn't come over to gloat, I actually posted that because I actually thought you'd guys were going to be like, "Yeah, he's a bum," but instead I found the excuse brigade. More power to you guys though. Hope you sign more part-time $100 million players.
And lastly, stop taking things so damn seriously all the time. I don't even "hate" the Redskins and I I actually feel bad that you guys have such a crappy owner, because lord know we all know something about that. :D
allstar1579
11-24-2010, 12:02 PM
You guys are more sensitive than the nerve endings in Theisman's leg. Relax man, I thought I would find a bunch of pissed off Redskins fans over Haynesworth, but instead I found a few excuse artists. I guess all that losing has your sites set low. We have a little higher standards, but that's because we actually expect our team to do well.
And by the way, you are not seriously trying deride the Ravens draft picks and personnel decision are you? Really? Really? That's like a blind man complaining about the color of the walls. ;)
If the Ravens signed a guy like Haynesworth for $100 million I'd be be pissing and moaning about him every week after the "effort" he puts out.
That being said, I didn't come over to gloat, I actually posted that because I actually thought you'd guys were going to be like, "Yeah, he's a bum," but instead I found the excuse brigade. More power to you guys though. Hope you sign more part-time $100 million players.
And lastly, stop taking things so damn seriously all the time. I don't even "hate" the Redskins and I I actually feel bad that you guys have such a crappy owner, because lord know we all know something about that. :D
Hey don't lump us all in the same boat.
Tony-OH
11-24-2010, 12:18 PM
Hey don't lump us all in the same boat.
I didn't think I did. I've seen your comments and realize there are some great knowledgeable Redskins fans who demand peak effort for $100 million.
We all have our excuse Brigade, trust me. Take a look at our Ravens board. ;)
allstar1579
11-24-2010, 12:39 PM
I didn't think I did. I've seen your comments and realize there are some great knowledgeable Redskins fans who demands peak effort for $100 million.
We all have our excuse Brigade, trust me. Take a look at our Ravens board. ;)
Or our minors board for that matter ;)
Thanks by the way.
I guess I'm an excuse artist and not knowledgeable because I think some of blowing this out of proportion.
Go_Os
11-26-2010, 11:08 PM
Female sports intern beats Albert Haynesworth at running...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MAX02FUcF7Q
JDubs
11-27-2010, 02:23 AM
Your the worst poster on this site. The part that is in bold does not even make sense.
I'm sorry man, but it really does make sense to everyone outside of Baltimore. Get used to me, because I'm pretty comfortable and I'm not going anywhere.
You guys are more sensitive than the nerve endings in Theisman's leg. Relax man, I thought I would find a bunch of pissed off Redskins fans over Haynesworth, but instead I found a few excuse artists. I guess all that losing has your sites set low. We have a little higher standards, but that's because we actually expect our team to do well.
And by the way, you are not seriously trying deride the Ravens draft picks and personnel decision are you? Really? Really? That's like a blind man complaining about the color of the walls. ;)
If the Ravens signed a guy like Haynesworth for $100 million I'd be be pissing and moaning about him every week after the "effort" he puts out.
That being said, I didn't come over to gloat, I actually posted that because I actually thought you'd guys were going to be like, "Yeah, he's a bum," but instead I found the excuse brigade. More power to you guys though. Hope you sign more part-time $100 million players.
And lastly, stop taking things so damn seriously all the time. I don't even "hate" the Redskins and I I actually feel bad that you guys have such a crappy owner, because lord know we all know something about that. :D
I feel like a broken record with you. Haynesworth is not a $100 man. You say you are only as familiar with the Redskins as the national media reports. With that in mind, go read up. Haynesworth's contract is not worth half as much as you make it out to be.
Other than that, there isn't a whole lot to respond to here. Typical Ravens hate. Do I wish my team was owned by someone other than Snyder? Yes, of course. I wish the Orioles had different ownership too, but I don't bail as soon as there is something about my team that I do not like. Do they sign players that I do not like? Sure, but I hardly think the Redskins are unique in that regard and I'm going to root for the laundry regardless. Any more questions, I'll be here.
allstar1579
11-27-2010, 11:54 AM
I'm sorry man, but it really does make sense to everyone outside of Baltimore. Get used to me, because I'm pretty comfortable and I'm not going anywhere.
I feel like a broken record with you. Haynesworth is not a $100 man. You say you are only as familiar with the Redskins as the national media reports. With that in mind, go read up. Haynesworth's contract is not worth half as much as you make it out to be.
Other than that, there isn't a whole lot to respond to here. Typical Ravens hate. Do I wish my team was owned by someone other than Snyder? Yes, of course. I wish the Orioles had different ownership too, but I don't bail as soon as there is something about my team that I do not like. Do they sign players that I do not like? Sure, but I hardly think the Redskins are unique in that regard and I'm going to root for the laundry regardless. Any more questions, I'll be here.
Really? I get neg repped because I don't blindly support every stupid knee-jerk signing that Snyder makes?
It's uneducated football fans like you that make the rest of us skins fans look bad.
ChaosLex
11-27-2010, 06:19 PM
Really? I get neg repped because I don't blindly support every stupid knee-jerk signing that Snyder makes?
It's uneducated football fans like you that make the rest of us skins fans look bad.
No worries, the positive rep I just gave you more than makes up for whatever neg rep he gave you. :)
The Epic
11-27-2010, 06:35 PM
Typical Ravens hate.
Not being a meanie, or whatever, but I never understood why any Ravens fans would hate the Redskins. Maybe you're confusing it with pity?
But really, I don't understand the issue. The guy's obviously not worth the money he's going to be paid, no matter how much he's paid. Most people know he's not seeing anything close to $100M, but even if it's $37.5M, I'd say it's a huge fleecing on Al's part.
Like...look at what Suggs did last year. He got paid all that cash, and he was invisible last year. Nobody's really making excuses...he sucked. All Ravens fans consider the deal a fleecing on Suggs' part until he proves otherwise.
Either way, with guys like Torain and Armstrong, they're getting some very cheap options to offset things.
OrioleMagic
11-27-2010, 06:59 PM
This Redskins fan thinks Haynesworth is a lazy, immature man with little or no character. I think Shanahan got stuck with him and wouldn't settle for less than fair value in a trade.
I'd like to see the Skins trade both Donovan and Albert as soon as trading opens back up. And preferrably for high round draft picks.
My only slight on the Ravens this year is a gripe about Ray Rice. I picked him in a high round in my fantasy league and the guy gets yards but not touchdowns!!! GRRRR!