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JohnD
01-03-2011, 10:01 AM
And I'm not saying that's a bad thing, or a good thing. It could be either, really, but we'll have to wait and see.

But what it's done is show that Maryland was just spouting off when it came to the idea that it was time to "go from good to great." The number I really can't get past is the 1-16 record Edsall has against ranked teams. I'm actually real concerned with that. In addition, Edsall has gone on a steady 8-4 tear through the last three years. That's what Maryland has done two of the past three seasons under Friedgen, and is about the area I'm fine with them continuing to do. Unlike a lot of people, I have few illusions the school is good enough or serious enough about football to ever contend for a national title. The committment has never been there, and Edsall's hiring doesn't change my opinion about that. They went from one good coach to another, albeit one who is about 10 years younger.

Edsall has had some good teams at UCONN, but this year's team was only decent. That they went to a BCS game has more to do with the fact that the Big East had to send someone. If Maryland had played in that conference they would have gone to the Fiesta Bowl instead. In the past UCONN did a few good things with a QB named Dan Orlovsky who is now in the NFL. I suppose it's possible Danny O'Brien will do well under Edsall and his offense, though it remains to be seen I guess.

What is clear is that Maryland has the talent right now to be an ACC contender next year. It'll be a few years before we know whether it's a good hire, but we'll know real soon if it's a bad one. This team is set up to do some good things next year, even without Torrey Smith. The Terps have a number of talented WRs to fill the load with Smith gone. The O-line only loses one starter, and only Da'Rel Scott leaves the backfield. Edsall needs to win 9-10 games immediately with this squad. Doing so won't suggest he's going to be a great coach here, but it will give us reason to think it's not a bad move. The talent is definitely here to be in the running for an ACC Championship -- just like they were this year.

Defensively I really hope Don Brown is back. It remains a possibility. It would be foolish to not do everything possible to keep him.

But ultimately it's not a "sexy" hire and if firing Friedgen was a business decision, then this was a poor one. Edsall isn't going to boost season ticket sales. He's not going to get donors to go gung ho for football. He may have even upset Kevin Plank at Under Armour if Plank was as in the tank for Leach as we all believed. It's a tough argument to say it's an upgrade when you fire a guy who was 75-50 in the ACC for a guy who was 74-70 in a lesser conference. And again, 1-16 against ranked teams.

Edsall will have some advantages here at Maryland that he didn't have at UCONN, but will they be substantial enough? I'm leery, myself. Maryland isn't a big time program that makes fancy hires. It never has been. And with the chance to be daring, to really shoot for the moon with the football team, which the school made clear it wanted from its football coach, it went conservative and took the safe pick. Once again. Now even those who wanted Friedgen gone are upset. In the end it seems like the school made noise about going big time, but when given the chance to think about the committment that entails, decided treading water wasn't so bad. It's a lateral move for the school, and only slightly better for Edsall, who has had his name mentioned to other, bigger teams before.

In the end this is a reality check for those of you who think Maryland is only a coach away from national prominence. It's not. And Maryland reinforced that notion with this hire. And the idea that Maryland was going to land a coach who could take them into the Top 10 routinely was lunacy. Maryland simply doesn't get those kind of coaches for football. Now, it's not a bad hire. Edsall will win more games than he loses. But I have a feeling Maryland's pecking order in the ACC won't change, either in terms of reputation or success. I'd love to be surprised. But I'm expecting status quo.

Tony-OH
01-03-2011, 10:07 AM
Right on the nose, John. I'm not against Edsall nor do I want him to fail, but this has to be one of the worse business decisions I've ever seen. You fire a likable longtime Terp to sign just another "good" football coach? Leach was the guy people wanted. Leach was the guy who was going to put fannies in the seats as everyone drooled at the possibility of O'Brien running his offense over the next three years.

Instead, we got a guy who by all accounts is a good football coach, but he's certainly not the name that will get the top recruits nor will it bring excitement back to the fanbase.

JohnD
01-03-2011, 10:14 AM
Maryland needs to spin this real hard, and really well. A significant faction of Maryland fans, myself included, weren't happy that an alum who was the best coach this school has had in decades was fired so dismissively, especially at a time when the program was back on the rise. They've replaced him with a guy who plays a brand of football considered boring and safe. The fans who wanted Friedgen out are now even more upset than those who wanted Friedgen to stay.

I hope this really reinforces to everyone how middle of the pack Maryland is athletically. Luckily no one can win in non-revenue sports the way Maryland does, so hopefully you guys care about that. Because in the money sports that really demand committment, it just isn't there. Hopefully some expectations can be re-adjusted for some fans. And let's also hope KA just leaves the basketball program alone.

OregonBird
01-03-2011, 10:22 AM
Kind of like getting rid of your Toyota camry and buying a Honda accord when you wanted a BMW. Safe, affordable, reliable and will last. Not very fun to drive and won't land women though.

Birds of B'more
01-03-2011, 12:27 PM
Excellent points, and true. I fell for it along with many others when we were fed the "business decision" line over why Ralph had to go, and that it was time to go from "good to great."

I'm not ready to lay the blame entirely at the feet of Kevin Anderson. I doubt we'll ever know the whole truth about how and why Edsall was selected over Leach, but I believe Kevin Anderson was heavily influenced by some people to stay away from Leach, for reasons I don't need to rehash. But someone will have to explain the reasoning behind this business decision, since short-term it does not figure to bring in any additional revenues.

It's my belief that UM made a statement about what it wants out of a football program with this hire, and that is:

- win 6-8 games a year
- go to a bowl game (any old game will do, since the ACC shares all its bowl money)
- don't make front page news (because if UM football is on the front page, it can only be for a bad reason)
- and, don't do anything that would distract the attention of the fan base once basketball season starts

J.D.
01-03-2011, 12:37 PM
Excellent points, and true. I fell for it along with many others when we were fed the "business decision" line over why Ralph had to go, and that it was time to go from "good to great."

I'm not ready to lay the blame entirely at the feet of Kevin Anderson. I doubt we'll ever know the whole truth about how and why Edsall was selected over Leach, but I believe Kevin Anderson was heavily influenced by some people to stay away from Leach, for reasons I don't need to rehash. But someone will have to explain the reasoning behind this business decision, since short-term it does not figure to bring in any additional revenues.

It's my belief that UM made a statement about what it wants out of a football program with this hire, and that is:

- win 6-8 games a year
- go to a bowl game (any old game will do, since the ACC shares all its bowl money)
- don't make front page news (because if UM football is on the front page, it can only be for a bad reason)
- and, don't do anything that would distract the attention of the fan base once basketball season starts

Unless, and I'm just throwing this out there, that they think that Edsall can take them to the next level, can recruit with more resources, and can do more with the current team than Ralph could. It's not necessarily a splashy move, but are we really ready to decide what Edsall can't do before we give him a chance?

brotherlo38
01-03-2011, 12:49 PM
I'm getting tired of the "forced Ralph out for Edsall" camp. Bottom line is we got rid of Franklin for Edsall. Ralph wasn't going to be the HC after next year. Amazing that so many people who wanted Ralph fired are now backtracking and acting like he was Nick Saban or Urban Meyer. He was a .500 coach, below .500 in the ACC, the last seven years who oversaw a program that had declining attendance for 5 straight years. A change needed to be made and when Franklin left, after being told he wouldn't be handed the HC job here, we needed to act.

BaltimoreTerp
01-03-2011, 01:06 PM
I'm getting tired of the "forced Ralph out for Edsall" camp. Bottom line is we got rid of Franklin for Edsall. Ralph wasn't going to be the HC after next year. Amazing that so many people who wanted Ralph fired are now backtracking and acting like he was Nick Saban or Urban Meyer. He was a .500 coach, below .500 in the ACC, the last seven years who oversaw a program that had declining attendance for 5 straight years. A change needed to be made and when Franklin left, after being told he wouldn't be handed the HC job here, we needed to act.

But the whole issue is whether this is a change.

BaltimoreTerp
01-03-2011, 01:11 PM
Maryland needs to spin this real hard, and really well. A significant faction of Maryland fans, myself included, weren't happy that an alum who was the best coach this school has had in decades was fired so dismissively, especially at a time when the program was back on the rise. They've replaced him with a guy who plays a brand of football considered boring and safe. The fans who wanted Friedgen out are now even more upset than those who wanted Friedgen to stay.

I hope this really reinforces to everyone how middle of the pack Maryland is athletically. Luckily no one can win in non-revenue sports the way Maryland does, so hopefully you guys care about that. Because in the money sports that really demand committment, it just isn't there. Hopefully some expectations can be re-adjusted for some fans. And let's also hope KA just leaves the basketball program alone.

Actually, this could be a good thing* for the basketball program. After seeing all of what has already and will be coming in criticism for the football coach hire, can you imagine the Hell that will rain down on College Park if they try to do the same thing to Gary Williams? And he won't take it as well as Friedgen has.

*Obviously, that depends on your opinion on Gary Williams and the direction of the program.

JohnD
01-03-2011, 02:32 PM
In his last three seasons Friedgen won at least eight games twice. That's pretty darn good by Maryland standards. He had one truly awful season in the middle where everything went wrong. But that seems to be an aberration at this point. Friedgen wasn't killing the program, and the school wasn't doing much to help him succeed with it.

JohnD
01-03-2011, 02:46 PM
Good column about this. http://d1scourse.typepad.com/blog/2011/01/immediate-winners-and-losers-from-marylands-hire-of-randy-edsall.html

olehippi
01-03-2011, 03:01 PM
Actually, this could be a good thing* for the basketball program. After seeing all of what has already and will be coming in criticism for the football coach hire, can you imagine the Hell that will rain down on College Park if they try to do the same thing to Gary Williams? And he won't take it as well as Friedgen has.

*Obviously, that depends on your opinion on Gary Williams and the direction of the program.

This is a point I've brought up in several threads. After seeing how he mis-handled the Freidgen debacle, my fear is that Kevin Anderson is the kind of ego-drive AD that will want to put his stamp on all Maryland sports programs.

Tony-OH
01-03-2011, 03:02 PM
Good column about this. http://d1scourse.typepad.com/blog/2011/01/immediate-winners-and-losers-from-marylands-hire-of-randy-edsall.html

I feel more positive about Edsall's offense after reading that piece, but I agree with his premise, Anderson has some 'splaining to do and he better hope this team gets off to a hot start next season or the alumni will turn on him faster than Freidgen in a buffet line.

allstar1579
01-03-2011, 04:30 PM
I know at least 4 people that have given up both their Maryland Football Season tickets and their Terrapin Club Membership over this move. To say some alumni are not happy would be an understatement.