Mike Leach

[jerryterp]

OK all you Leach folks, no one seems to be beating on his door. Minnisota, Michigan,Oregon,Pittsburg,W Virginia,Conneticut,& many others. I wonder why no one wants him? Maybe folks who are paid big $'s to make these decisions know something that we fans are not aware of. Let's see 2 yrs probation @ Tech & maybe there was more to the "player incident" than we're aware of. Anyway I'm glad we didn't select him. Here's hoping Edsal takes us to a major bowl next year.

[olehippi]

Even before the Tech probation was announced, I didn't want Leach solely because of the player incident. But I didn't want Edsall either, especially after he disrespected the UConn players by bailing on them after the Fiesta Bowl and flying to College Park to accept the Maryland Head Coaching position.

A man only has two things of real value, his word and his integrity. IMO, Leach, Edsall, and Kevin Anderson have proven they value neither.

[waroriole]

Even before the Tech probation was announced, I didn't want Leach solely because of the player incident. But I didn't want Edsall either, especially after he disrespected the UConn players by bailing on them after the Fiesta Bowl and flying to College Park to accept the Maryland Head Coaching position.

A man only has two things of real value, his word and his integrity. IMO, Leach, Edsall, and Kevin Anderson have proven they value neither.

So, how would you get your football coach? Pick a fan?

[BaltimoreTerp]

OK all you Leach folks, no one seems to be beating on his door. Minnisota, Michigan,Oregon,Pittsburg,W Virginia,Conneticut,& many others. I wonder why no one wants him? Maybe folks who are paid big $'s to make these decisions know something that we fans are not aware of. Let's see 2 yrs probation @ Tech & maybe there was more to the "player incident" than we're aware of. Anyway I'm glad we didn't select him. Here's hoping Edsal takes us to a major bowl next year.

Here's hoping.

And just remember this: Mike Leach and his staff made a few too many text messages to players. Cam Newton's father auctioned his kid off to the highest bidder. I'm no longer someone who considers the NCAA able to effectively enforce their own rules.

[BaltimoreTerp]

So, how would you get your football coach? Pick a fan?

Didn't Leach pick his kicker that way a couple years ago? :p Or was that Texas A&M (I can't remember)?

[brotherlo38]

A man only has two things of real value, his word and his integrity. IMO, Leach, Edsall, and Kevin Anderson have proven they value neither.

Good thing you need neither to win a national title!

[CSB Jack]

I think a lot of places are holding off on Leach until his lawsuits are resolved, particularly the one against ESPN. Beyond that, it's a matter of fit.

No question, Leach runs an offense that puts up yards and points. But he's not a perfect coach. The biggest reason to hire him at Maryland would have been the instant buzz. Based on the comments made by Anderson when he fired Friedgen, it sounded like that was the direction he was heading. As it turns out, that wasn't the case.

One thing that has been discussed elsewhere is that Leach was the only name mentioned by Anderson in that initial press conference when he discussed the search process. That's probably because Leach did not have a job at that time. Everyone else that was subsequently mentioned was coaching someplace else. He couldn't just come out and say "We want Coach So-and-so" when that guy is working for someone else. That kind of information typically comes out from unnamed sources, not from the AD leading the search.

I've said it before, I believe Leach will be back in coaching at some point. He may not get a high profile job at a BCS school right away, but he'll be back in coaching within the next year or so after his lawsuits are resolved, if not sooner.

[brotherlo38]

One thing that has been discussed elsewhere is that Leach was the only name mentioned by Anderson in that initial press conference when he discussed the search process. That's probably because Leach did not have a job at that time. Everyone else that was subsequently mentioned was coaching someplace else. He couldn't just come out and say "We want Coach So-and-so" when that guy is working for someone else. That kind of information typically comes out from unnamed sources, not from the AD leading the search.



Leach was asked about by the media at the press conference. That's the only reason Anderson mentioned his name. Everyone assumed Leach would at least be a candidate (most thought he was a lock) because of the UA connection. Anderson said Leach was on his list, among other candidates.

[Flosman]

Leach was asked about by the media at the press conference. That's the only reason Anderson mentioned his name. Everyone assumed Leach would at least be a candidate (most thought he was a lock) because of the UA connection. Anderson said Leach was on his list, among other candidates.

Leach is a very good coach, but he is not a great people person. He is one of those guys that determines if you are with him and if your not your against him and if your against him he treats you that way. Guys like him usually win but wear out their welcome. He also is insulted when he is asked to explain anything about how he handles his team. He would have won at Maryland but I don't think the school is ready for a guy like him.

[Tony-OH]

At this point, I'm turning the page on how everything shook out and getting behind Edsall. He's our guy now and I hope he exceeds most people's expectations. As for Leach, I think his lawsuit is doing him no favors in getting hired again.

[Crazysilver03]

At this point, I'm turning the page on how everything shook out and getting behind Edsall. He's our guy now and I hope he exceeds most people's expectations. As for Leach, I think his lawsuit is doing him no favors in getting hired again.

I think this is the best way to view the situation. People can keep complaining but what is that really going to do.

I guess you have to change the caption under the forum name on the main page now. :smile11:

[olehippi]

So, how would you get your football coach? Pick a fan?

So you think it was all right for Edsall to just walk away from his players after the game without saying a word, hop on a plane, and go sign with Maryland. His assistant coaches didn't know either. Sorry, but that is flat out wrong...and shows a total lack of respect for others. It says volumes about the man IMO.

Read this:

http://cincinnati.com/blogs/firstup/2011/01/03/randy-edsall-leaves-uconn-player-feeling-slighted/

[olehippi]

Good thing you need neither to win a national title!

From your response, I sense a generational, as well as a morality, gap. May you live and learn.

[brotherlo38]

From your response, I sense a generational, as well as a morality, gap. May you live and learn.

It's been pretty clear from Day 1 that you've hated firing Ralph and you were going to hate whoever they brought in as a HC. And the bottom line is that this is how 99% of football coaches act. Nick Saban, Bob Petrino, Rich Rodriguez, and the list goes on.

Any way you want to take this I'll pull up example after example about how most of college football has little integrity and most of those who partake in the game have little value to their word. It's time to come off the moral high horse and just accept college football for what it is, a sport that lines (almost) everyone's pockets with money and where integrity means little.

[Flosman]

It's been pretty clear from Day 1 that you've hated firing Ralph and you were going to hate whoever they brought in as a HC. And the bottom line is that this is how 99% of football coaches act. Nick Saban, Bob Petrino, Rich Rodriguez, and the list goes on.

Any way you want to take this I'll pull up example after example about how most of college football has little integrity and most of those who partake in the game have little value to their word. It's time to come off the moral high horse and just accept college football for what it is, a sport that lines (almost) everyone's pockets with money and where integrity means little.

What exactly was his act that lacked integrity? I was a huge supporter of Fridge but this seems to be a good hire.

[brotherlo38]

The day after the Fiesta Bowl Edsall hopped on a seperate plane from the rest of the team to head to MD for the interview. Edsall told the assistant coaches and players over the intercom of the plane that he was leaving for the MD job.

[Flosman]

The day after the Fiesta Bowl Edsall hopped on a seperate plane from the rest of the team to head to MD for the interview. Edsall told the assistant coaches and players over the intercom of the plane that he was leaving for the MD job.

I still don't see this as a cardinal sin.

[olehippi]

It's been pretty clear from Day 1 that you've hated firing Ralph and you were going to hate whoever they brought in as a HC. And the bottom line is that this is how 99% of football coaches act. Nick Saban, Bob Petrino, Rich Rodriguez, and the list goes on.

Any way you want to take this I'll pull up example after example about how most of college football has little integrity and most of those who partake in the game have little value to their word. It's time to come off the moral high horse and just accept college football for what it is, a sport that lines (almost) everyone's pockets with money and where integrity means little.

You are 100% correct on both bolded counts, but I'll stay on the moral high horse.....it's a rocker by the way. :D However, I wasn't necessarily going to hate whoever they brought in to replace Freidgen. I didn't want Leach for the obvious reasons, and I didn't want Edsall because IMO, he isn't an upgrade over Ralph....something that has been repeatedly stated in the media by others much more knowledgeable than I am. And the way he treated his former UConn players and coaches simply reinforced my feelings.

Hey, I'm a Maryland fan and I hope Edsall proves to be the right choice. I just think Kevin Anderson could have done much better if he hadn't botched the Freidgen situation so badly.

[BaltimoreTerp]

It's time to come off the moral high horse and just accept college football for what it is, a sport that lines (almost) everyone's pockets with money and where integrity means little.

Or do what I do and spent most of the time I think about college football debating whether I should simply stop watching the cancer on the sports world major revenue-producing college athletics has become.

[brotherlo38]

Hey, I'm a Maryland fan and I hope Edsall proves to be the right choice. I just think Kevin Anderson could have done much better if he hadn't botched the Freidgen situation so badly.

1. He didn't botch the Friedgen part of the deal at all. Situations change, moves need to be made. Fridge himself said being a lame duck would be a disaster. Ralph agreed to a buyout and then 24 hours later went back on his word and Anderson was left having to take a Friday conference call that was going to announce the resignation of Fridge and the departing of Franklin by himself. Talk about going back on your word!

2. We're MD. Those who think we could've done better than Edsall in the coaching hire process don't understand where we are as a program. The only reason we had a shot at Leach, the only realistic candidate better than Edsall, was because of his baggage.

[tylerfrombelair]

So far Edsall has committed four players since being hired at UMD. Quintin Jefferson a 3 star recruit headlines those four. Steven Montgomery a 3 star DB was expected to make his visit this weekend. Army All American participant LB Travis Hughes decommitted from UNC and has been in contact with Edsall.

[olehippi]

I still don't see this as a cardinal sin.

Maybe not a Cardinal sin, but definitely on the Bishop level. You might change your mind if you read this:

http://cincinnati.com/blogs/firstup/2011/01/03/randy-edsall-leaves-uconn-player-feeling-slighted/

and this:

http://www.courant.com/sports/uconn-football/hc-randy-edsall-uconn-maryland-0103-20110102,0,3524736.story

[waroriole]

So you think it was all right for Edsall to just walk away from his players after the game without saying a word, hop on a plane, and go sign with Maryland. His assistant coaches didn't know either. Sorry, but that is flat out wrong...and shows a total lack of respect for others. It says volumes about the man IMO.

Read this:

http://cincinnati.com/blogs/firstup/2011/01/03/randy-edsall-leaves-uconn-player-feeling-slighted/

I hear what you're saying, but that's just the norm in college football. Doesn't make it right, but he's not alone.

[olehippi]

I hear what you're saying, but that's just the norm in college football. Doesn't make it right, but he's not alone.

Yeah, I know......but I guess its time to jump off my rocking high horse and just forget about Maryland football until next year.

[brotherlo38]

Maybe not a Cardinal sin, but definitely on the Bishop level. You might change your mind if you read this:

http://cincinnati.com/blogs/firstup/2011/01/03/randy-edsall-leaves-uconn-player-feeling-slighted/

and this:

http://www.courant.com/sports/uconn-football/hc-randy-edsall-uconn-maryland-0103-20110102,0,3524736.story

Second time you've linked that Cincy paper article. A bit ironic, seeing how Cincy's coach last year left them right before their bowl game to coach at ND. I remember those players speaking out about it and feeling betrayed. Again, this is way more common than you think it is.

If you think what Edsall did is at the "bishop level" then you must not spend too much time following college football. Just look into oversigning or how Nick Saban uses his medical redshirts, you'll find what Edsall did to be very minor in the scheme of things.