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backwardsk
09-01-2011, 11:22 PM
Cuts are due on Saturday. This is what I'd have...

QB Beck, Grossman, Clemens (3)
RB Hightower, Torain, Helu (3)
FB Young, Williams (2)
TE Cooley, Davis, Paulsen (3)
OL Williams, Lichtensteiger, Montgomery, Chester, Brown, #74 from Seattle, Cook, Hurt (8)
WR Moss, Gaffney, Armstrong, Hankerson, Austin, Paul (6)

DL Carriker, Cofield, Bowen, Bryant, Golston, Scott (6)
LB Kerrigan, Fletcher, McIntosh, Orakpo, Jackson, White, Fox, Riley, Alexander (9)
CB Hall, Wilson, Barnes, Buchanan, Westbrook (5)
S Doughty, Atogwe, Russell, Gomes (4) Landry, Moore (PUP)

Gano
Sundberg
Rocca
Banks (4)

OrioleMagic
09-02-2011, 11:05 AM
Sellers should make the team, IMHO.

JDubs
09-02-2011, 11:50 AM
I was just about to start this thread. Great idea! Here is what I have:

OFFENSE
QB: John Beck; Rex Grossman.
CUTS: Kellen Clemons; Matt Gutierrez (very cut!)

RB: Tim Hightower; Roy Helu, Jr.; Ryan "All" Torain "Vehicle"
PRACTICE SQUAD (PS): Evan Royster (sadly, likely to be claimed)
CUTS: Shaun Draugn

FB: Darrel Young
CUTS: Keiland Williams

WR: Santana Moss; Anthony Armstrong; Jabar Gaffney; Terrence Austin (great preseason); Leonard Hankerson; Niles Paul (I think he'd be claimed on the PS); Brandon Banks (game changer) -- Youth movement here.
PS: Aldrick Robinson
CUTS: Donte' Stallworth (Banks took his spot, but he showed some great stuff); Isaac Anderson (Who?);

TE: Chris Cooley; Fred Davis; Logan Paulsen
CUTS: Mike Sellers (they have him listed as a TE); Derek Schouman; Tony Curtis

OL: Trent "Silverback" Williams; Kory Lichtensteiger; Chris Chester; Will Montgomery; Jammal Brown; Artis Hicks (OT/OG swingman); Sean Locklear; Willie Smith (really liked what I saw out of him); Clint Oldenburg
PS: Selvish Capers; Erik Cook; Maurice Hurt
CUTS: Donovan Raiola ("No Donovans Club")
TOTAL OFFENSE: 25

DEFENSE
DL: Barry Cofield; Stephen Bowen; Adam Carriker; Kedrick Golston; Anthony Bryant; Darrion Scott
PS: Chris Neild (I'm really rooting for him, but not enough roster space)
CUTS: Jeff Stehle; Doug Worthington

LB: Brian Orakpo; Rocky Mcintosh; London Fletcher; Ryan Kerrigan; Keyaron Fox (great depth/special teams); Lorenzo Alexander; Rob Jackson (great preseason); Perry Riley (could step up); Markus White
CUTS: H.B. Blades; Thaddeus Gibson; Edgar Jones (liked him, not enough space);

CB: DeAngelo Hall; Josh Wilson; Phillip Buchanon; Kevin Barnes; Brandyn Thompson; Byron Westbrook (only because of Buchanon's 4-game suspension)
CUTS: Reggie Jones

DB: Oshiomogho Atogwe; Laron Landry; Reed Doughty; DeJon Gomes (showed me enough)
PS: Devonte Shannon
CUTS: Chris "The Predator" Horton (appears to have been a flash in the pan); Anderson Russell
PUP: Kareem Moore
TOTAL DEFENSE: 25

SPECIAL TEAMS
K: Graham "Onions" Gano (not sure if this is his nickname is because he has onions or because he'll make you cry--I guess we'll find out)
P: Sav Rocca (he's a boomer and has a great name)
LS: Nick Sundberg
TOTAL ROSTER: 53

IR: Jarvis Jenkins (**sheds a tear**)
Practice Squad Summary: Evan Royster; Aldrick Robinson; Selvish Capers; Erik Cook; Maurice Hurt; Chris Neild; Devonte Shannon; a developmental QB off the heap.

I also expect this roster to change once teams make their cuts. Shanahan is the type of coach that prides himself on salvaging players off the scrap heap.

JDubs
09-02-2011, 11:56 AM
Cuts are due on Saturday. This is what I'd have...

QB Beck, Grossman, Clemens (3)
RB Hightower, Torain, Helu (3)
FB Young, Williams (2)
TE Cooley, Davis, Paulsen (3)
OL Williams, Lichtensteiger, Montgomery, Chester, Brown, #74 from Seattle, Cook, Hurt (8)
WR Moss, Gaffney, Armstrong, Hankerson, Austin, Paul (6)

DL Carriker, Cofield, Bowen, Bryant, Golston, Scott (6)
LB Kerrigan, Fletcher, McIntosh, Orakpo, Jackson, White, Fox, Riley, Alexander (9)
CB Hall, Wilson, Barnes, Buchanan, Westbrook (5)
S Doughty, Atogwe, Russell, Gomes (4) Landry, Moore (PUP)

Gano
Sundberg
Rocca
Banks (4)

Nice. My thoughts...
Keiland Williams showed us nothing this preseason. He's been decent during his tenure, but Shanahan appears to have him pegged as a FB and we will not keep two.

I ended up keeping 7 WRs and it was surprisingly easy to make it work. It has been reported (but I'm too lazy to go looking for the link) that Shanahan was thinking of keeping 7 WRs prior to yesterday's game and that the competition was between Stallworth and Banks. Tough choice to be sure. Even though Stallworth had a good game, Banks showed us his game-changing value again.

I'm not sure that I would keep that many Safeties, but I think we are thinking pretty much the same thing on defense.

JDubs
09-02-2011, 11:58 AM
As for Sellers, I'm not sure if he has earned his spot or not, but it is moot because Shanahan is going to cut him, IMHO.

backwardsk
09-02-2011, 12:33 PM
I'm only keeping 4 safeties to start w/ Landry on pup. My gut, which got bigger in the offseason, says that he won't be ready for week 1. Williams and Clemens were my last two to make the team. The more I think about it, the less I think they carry 3 qbs. If those spots open up, I could see them add a lineman and/or cornerback. 72 would be that guy or on the practice squad.

Wishful thinking of course, I hope a trade partner for stallworth develops. I think Tennessee would be a perfect place for him. That's where he went to college, he could get pt, and he could mentor britt.

allstar1579
09-02-2011, 01:07 PM
As for Sellers, I'm not sure if he has earned his spot or not, but it is moot because Shanahan is going to cut him, IMHO.

I don't think so. They had the story last week during the Ravens game, that they played him and listed him at TE to start the preseason because they wanted to get a good look at Young and wanted to see what kinda flexibility Sellers had. The blocking/catching in the flat role he can do from either spot. Sellers was playing EVERYWHERE, first team, second team, goal line, ST. I don't think they cut him, I think it just seemed like he was on his way out when people saw him "moved" to TE. He's been back at FB since the 2nd game. I think that being said it pretty much comes down to him OR K. Williams because they are very similar, but Sellers can do more in other positions. Williams had the fumble recovery on the punt muff last night, but that was at the end of the game. Players in at that point probably were cut before the game began I got the impression.

allstar1579
09-02-2011, 01:21 PM
I'm only keeping 4 safeties to start w/ Landry on pup. My gut, which got bigger in the offseason, says that he won't be ready for week 1. Williams and Clemens were my last two to make the team. The more I think about it, the less I think they carry 3 qbs. If those spots open up, I could see them add a lineman and/or cornerback. 72 would be that guy or on the practice squad.

Wishful thinking of course, I hope a trade partner for stallworth develops. I think Tennessee would be a perfect place for him. That's where he went to college, he could get pt, and he could mentor britt.

Yeah I'm not convinced they keep Paul over Stallworth. From what Allen was saying last night it seemed either Paul or Hankerson (or both) weren't making the team. He said when talking about the 2, "it's just sad that there are only so many roster spots and someone has to go". I said yesterday afternoon there's no reason to keep Stallworth, but he showed good veteran presence last night, making big catches when they were needed, and the big deep catch at the end of the game. I'd say he might have worked his way into the conversation last night, but I'm not real confident they keep him either.

WR: Stallworth, Paul, Hankerson, Banks
RB: K. Williams, Sellers, Royster
LB: Jones, White, Jackson, Gibson, Riley
DB: Horton, Thompson, Gomes, Anderson

These I think are the most interesting question guys. I think Hankerson should be safe, Banks should be safe, I dunno about the other 2. I think Sellers makes it and the other 2 are gone, just too many good RB this year, and Sellers gives extra insurance if Cooley is out. White and Jackson should be safe, Jones looked great at the end though, and we need MLB so I'd keep Riley since Henson got cut. I think all 4 of the DB could be cut, but we are thin at CB and needed someone to step up, and some of the S looked AWFUL last night. Don't know how that's going to all go, this is an area I could see them looking to pick up another team's cuts.

JDubs
09-02-2011, 01:47 PM
Yeah I'm not convinced they keep Paul over Stallworth. From what Allen was saying last night it seemed either Paul or Hankerson (or both) weren't making the team. He said when talking about the 2, "it's just sad that there are only so many roster spots and someone has to go". I said yesterday afternoon there's no reason to keep Stallworth, but he showed good veteran presence last night, making big catches when they were needed, and the big deep catch at the end of the game. I'd say he might have worked his way into the conversation last night, but I'm not real confident they keep him either.

WR: Stallworth, Paul, Hankerson, Banks
RB: K. Williams, Sellers, Royster
LB: Jones, White, Jackson, Gibson, Riley
DB: Horton, Thompson, Gomes, Anderson

These I think are the most interesting question guys. I think Hankerson should be safe, Banks should be safe, I dunno about the other 2. I think Sellers makes it and the other 2 are gone, just too many good RB this year, and Sellers gives extra insurance if Cooley is out. White and Jackson should be safe, Jones looked great at the end though, and we need MLB so I'd keep Riley since Henson got cut. I think all 4 of the DB could be cut, but we are thin at CB and needed someone to step up, and some of the S looked AWFUL last night. Don't know how that's going to all go, this is an area I could see them looking to pick up another team's cuts.

Paul is one of the big question marks. I chose to keep him on the roster because he may be claimed from the practice squad and he'll serve as a kick returner when Banks inevitably gets hurt.

As for Sellers, who knows? You may be right. If they keep Sellers, then Young should not be on the 53. There is no good reason to waste two roster spots on FB. Time will tell.

OrioleMagic
09-02-2011, 02:13 PM
A WaPo writer predicts Sellers makes the team. (not that that means a whole lot) I think he makes it because of versatility and veteran leadership. I think they do keep Young and Sellers w/ Sellers playing multiple positions.

allstar1579
09-02-2011, 02:17 PM
Paul is one of the big question marks. I chose to keep him on the roster because he may be claimed from the practice squad and he'll serve as a kick returner when Banks inevitably gets hurt.

As for Sellers, who knows? You may be right. If they keep Sellers, then Young should not be on the 53. There is no good reason to waste two roster spots on FB. Time will tell.

Young is your starter, he is head and shoulders better than Sellers or Williams right now, it's more for a depth thing that you have to keep him. You need ST guys, and he'd be the captain. You need an extra TE if Cooley is still banged up because all you have is Davis and Paulsen. I don't think there is room for him AND Williams, but you kinda have to make room for one of them. It's not that they are both typical FB, Young will be, and you need him in Shanny's offense, but Sellers would be more of a 3rd TE/backup FB/ST guy which is pretty valuable to combine all 3 into one if you think about it. That's probably why he got TE reps early, so it wasn't between him and Young, it was between him and a potential 3rd TE with Cooley out.

Paul you could be right. In a perfect world I'd love to keep him and Hankerson and let them develop like Armstrong and Austin did last year, but there are only so many spots to go around.

JDubs
09-02-2011, 05:22 PM
Young is your starter, he is head and shoulders better than Sellers or Williams right now, it's more for a depth thing that you have to keep him. You need ST guys, and he'd be the captain. You need an extra TE if Cooley is still banged up because all you have is Davis and Paulsen. I don't think there is room for him AND Williams, but you kinda have to make room for one of them. It's not that they are both typical FB, Young will be, and you need him in Shanny's offense, but Sellers would be more of a 3rd TE/backup FB/ST guy which is pretty valuable to combine all 3 into one if you think about it. That's probably why he got TE reps early, so it wasn't between him and Young, it was between him and a potential 3rd TE with Cooley out.

Paul you could be right. In a perfect world I'd love to keep him and Hankerson and let them develop like Armstrong and Austin did last year, but there are only so many spots to go around.

I hear what you are saying, but I would hate to cut Niles Paul and keep Sellers. Just my personal opinion...and it certainly could be wrong. Wouldn't be the first time.

allstar1579
09-02-2011, 07:15 PM
I hear what you are saying, but I would hate to cut Niles Paul and keep Sellers. Just my personal opinion...and it certainly could be wrong. Wouldn't be the first time.

I know what you mean, I could see the other side of the argument as I was typing that, but between the versatility and the leadership Sellers brings I just can't see them cutting him for a rookie, I think that cut comes from somewhere else. I just wonder where they are going to go thin on because of depth in those 4 areas.

JDubs
09-02-2011, 07:59 PM
I know what you mean, I could see the other side of the argument as I was typing that, but between the versatility and the leadership Sellers brings I just can't see them cutting him for a rookie, I think that cut comes from somewhere else. I just wonder where they are going to go thin on because of depth in those 4 areas.

Can't argue with the versatility and leadership impact. I really don't meant to be anti-Sellers. He has been one of the hardworking leaders since back when those players were scarce on the Redskins. If he can contribute, I'd like to have him on the team.

allstar1579
09-02-2011, 08:20 PM
Can't argue with the versatility and leadership impact. I really don't meant to be anti-Sellers. He has been one of the hardworking leaders since back when those players were scarce on the Redskins. If he can contribute, I'd like to have him on the team.

Interesting sidenote, since Buchanon is suspended the first 4 games he doesn't count against our numbers, so we actually get one more player than we were counting on...but we need to have more CB besides Hall, Wilson, Barnes, and Westbrook I think...

JDubs
09-02-2011, 09:57 PM
Interesting sidenote, since Buchanon is suspended the first 4 games he doesn't count against our numbers, so we actually get one more player than we were counting on...but we need to have more CB besides Hall, Wilson, Barnes, and Westbrook I think...

Interesting. I think a young CB/S hybrid player would be very valuable to us right now. He can help out until Buchanon comes back and then head to the practice squad. Devonte Shannon? Dejon Gomes?

allstar1579
09-02-2011, 10:52 PM
Interesting. I think a young CB/S hybrid player would be very valuable to us right now. He can help out until Buchanon comes back and then head to the practice squad. Devonte Shannon? Dejon Gomes?

I had been planning on Gomes, but he looked really bad a couple times last night. I think when Shannon whiffed on that last tackle and let Gant score on that LOOOONG TD last night that about sealed his fate off the team.

allstar1579
09-03-2011, 01:01 PM
HB Blades the biggest surprise among the cuts, but I'm not really all that surprised with the play of the LB so far. He didn't seem a really good fit for the 3-4. Horton is gone, saw that coming. Banks is safe. Anderson Russell and Shannon are both gone. All the expected cuts are gone. Now for the juicy stuff I guess.

allstar1579
09-03-2011, 02:10 PM
K. Williams cut. Mike Sellers safe.

JDubs
09-03-2011, 02:29 PM
I'm seeing all over twitter that Stallworth has made it. I guess that means Paul is gone. Hopefully we can hide him on the practice squad.

allstar1579
09-03-2011, 03:16 PM
I'm seeing all over twitter that Stallworth has made it. I guess that means Paul is gone. Hopefully we can hide him on the practice squad.

That's kinda what I saw developing during that last game. I know Shanny likes to have veteran depth, and Stallworth was making plays when they counted all night Thursday. I figured it might be just enough for him to sneak ahead of someone. Pop your popcorn, it should be interesting to see how these last couple spots go.

allstar1579
09-03-2011, 03:18 PM
DL Worthington - Cut
LB - Edgar Jones - Cut
QB - Clemens - Cut

Interesting last one, that means 2 QB and one of the extra WR/LB should make it.

allstar1579
09-03-2011, 03:32 PM
So speaking of looking for S depth...Brandon Merriweather just got cut by the Pats. I don't think there's a chance we sign him, but I was interested that they let him go.

allstar1579
09-03-2011, 03:36 PM
I'm seeing all over twitter that Stallworth has made it. I guess that means Paul is gone. Hopefully we can hide him on the practice squad.

Paul made it. Probably the result of Clemens going.

allstar1579
09-03-2011, 03:48 PM
Stranger and stranger...Artis Hicks is either on his way to CLE, or is being cut. Gotta wonder who they are going to get to help backup the Oline, all the rest of the "gimme" cuts are gone already.

allstar1579
09-03-2011, 03:55 PM
Hankerson is safe. Stallworth isn't "official" yet, but it'd make 8 WR...that's a LOT.

allstar1579
09-03-2011, 04:02 PM
Also figured out the loophole to the extra active roster spot. You can "designate" someone the emergency QB and keep them active. So they can call Paul the emergency 3rd QB and have him active on gameday.

Expectation is that a lot of teams are going to carry 2 QB and designate an extra player the emergency QB.

JDubs
09-03-2011, 05:27 PM
Also figured out the loophole to the extra active roster spot. You can "designate" someone the emergency QB and keep them active. So they can call Paul the emergency 3rd QB and have him active on gameday.

Expectation is that a lot of teams are going to carry 2 QB and designate an extra player the emergency QB.

Pretty slick.

It would be wild if they kept 8 receivers.

JDubs
09-03-2011, 06:53 PM
In a bit of a surprise, NT Anthony Bryant was cut and Neild has been told that he has made the team. Here is an up to date list of the cuts:

S Davonte Shannon
WR Aldrick Robinson
S Chris Horton
OLB Thadeus Gibson
S Anderson Russell
OL Clint Oldenburg
G Maurice Hurt
LB Horation Blades
DL Jeff Stehle
QB Kellen Clemens
QB Matt Gutierrez
OL Donovan Raiola
OT Selvish Capers
TE Tony Curtis
RB-FB Keiland Williams
LB Edgar Jones
DL Doug Worthington
NT Anthony Bryant

SOURCE: http://www.realredskins.com/rich-tandlers-real-redsk/2011/09/tracking-the-cuts.html

JDubs
09-04-2011, 01:26 AM
Also, as expected, Royster did not make the team. Here's to hoping that we can hide him on the PS.

Floater
09-04-2011, 08:51 AM
Damn 8 WR and only 8 OL, but I think theyll pick up at least one more OL before the season with all the other cuts.

backwardsk
09-04-2011, 11:22 AM
Damn 8 WR and only 8 OL, but I think theyll pick up at least one more OL before the season with all the other cuts.

The number of O linemen really doesn't surprise me. They started with 8 last season with lichtensteiger Montgomery and Heyer as backups.

The number of receivers does surprise me.

allstar1579
09-04-2011, 11:51 AM
The number of O linemen really doesn't surprise me. They started with 8 last season with lichtensteiger Montgomery and Heyer as backups.

The number of receivers does surprise me.


I almost smell a Stallworth for Olineman deal. Just don't think they can spread the ball around enough to make it worth keeping all 8, well I guess 7 plus Banks, but he's ST only.

backwardsk
09-04-2011, 12:31 PM
I almost smell a Stallworth for Olineman deal. Just don't think they can spread the ball around enough to make it worth keeping all 8, well I guess 7 plus Banks, but he's ST only.

Could happen I guess. I take it that the hicks trade didn't go down. If they keep 8 receivers by Sunday I'd imagine that two to three would be inactivated.

JDubs
09-04-2011, 04:05 PM
2011 Redskins Practice Squad:
1. RB Evan Royster (per Grant Paulsen)
2. DE Doug Worthington (per John Keim)
3. G Maurice Hurt (per Chris Russell)
4. WR Aldrick Robinson (per Mike Jones)
5. CB Reggie Jones (per Rich Campbell)
6. ?
7. ?
8. ?

I'm quite happy with this group.

backwardsk
09-04-2011, 04:53 PM
2011 Redskins Practice Squad:
1. RB Evan Royster (per Grant Paulsen)
2. DE Doug Worthington (per John Keim)
3. G Maurice Hurt (per Chris Russell)
4. WR Aldrick Robinson (per Mike Jones)
5. CB Reggie Jones (per Rich Campbell)
6. ?
7. ?
8. ?

I'm quite happy with this group.

You'd imagine that one spot will go to a qb whether that's Chappell or someone else.

backwardsk
09-04-2011, 07:56 PM
I saw that Jarmon got cut from Denver and Keiland Williams got picked up by Detroit.

backwardsk
09-05-2011, 09:01 AM
Crompton, previously of TB, has been added to the practice squad (QB).