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Sports Guy
10-03-2011, 08:37 PM
Do you want the Orioles to go after him and if you do, what would you give up to get him?
http://www.fangraphs.com/statss.aspx?playerid=3787&position=3B
Wright is only signed through next year for 15M...He has an option but he is traded, he has the right to void that option.
El Gordo
10-03-2011, 08:41 PM
Do you want the Orioles to go after him and if you do, what would you give up to get him?
http://www.fangraphs.com/statss.aspx?playerid=3787&position=3B
Wright is only signed through next year for 15M...He has an option but he is traded, he has the right to void that option.If Wright were traded to the O's it's unlikely he would extend here. Whatever we would have to give up wouldn't be worth 1 year of Wright. Besides teams like Boston and LAA would be able to give up more.
SrMeowMeow
10-03-2011, 08:43 PM
Absolutely interested. Great buy-low opportunity. I'd obviously only give up one year of David Wright worth of value unless we could extend him right away, but I'd be down regardless. I think he's a great bounceback candidate and a smart risk. If I'm right, at worst we get two picks. If not...well, that's why these decisions are hard. :p
JTrea81
10-03-2011, 08:44 PM
It's going to take Machado to get him IMO and the fact he won't likely extend is not enticing enough.
His defense has been on the decline as well so you'd likely have to move him to 1B and his bat doesn't play well there.
He's an option of course, but better to go after Fielder/Pujols for 1B and just have Reynolds work on his D.
Eventually we might want to move Machado to 3B if Hardy is still ok defensively at SS.
SammyBirdland
10-03-2011, 08:49 PM
Just what we need, another player who has spent his entire career losing.
Frobby
10-03-2011, 09:01 PM
Just what we need, another player who has spent his entire career losing.
What are you talking about? The Mets have had 4 winning seasons in Wright's 8 year career.
I hadn't realized his defense was so poor, though.
BrunoCherrytown
10-03-2011, 09:07 PM
Just what we need, another player who has spent his entire career losing.
It's settled then. Charlie Sheen for third base. Because we know he's all about WINNING!
Frobby
10-03-2011, 09:09 PM
It's settled then. Charlie Sheen for third base. Because we know he's all about WINNING!
No, Corbin Bernsen for 3B, Charlie Sheen for closer. He can't walk more guys than Gregg did!
eddie83
10-03-2011, 09:17 PM
He is from the general area and might love to get out of Citi Field to hit at OPACY. I would have alot of interest, but if the Mets deal him, to save face with the fans I would think they would want MLB talent back, not prospects. Maybe I am wrong unless they do a rebuild which I can't see Wilpon doing.
MrOrange82
10-03-2011, 09:24 PM
Obviously depends on the price. Wright's numbers over the last three years, coupled with his salary and poor defense, have been too erratic to justify trading a significant amount of talent for him.
BrunoCherrytown
10-03-2011, 09:24 PM
No, Corbin Bernsen for 3B, Charlie Sheen for closer. He can't walk more guys than Gregg did!
That's a good point. In Major League Bernsen was old, overpaid, and not a particularly good fielder. That's got Orioles written all over it.
SammyBirdland
10-03-2011, 09:31 PM
That's a good point. In Major League Bernsen was old, overpaid, and not a particularly good fielder. That's got Orioles written all over it.
Personally, I'd check to see if MC Serch or Pete Nice are available.
http://i.imgur.com/TdTMT.jpg
BrunoCherrytown
10-03-2011, 09:41 PM
Personally, I'd check to see if MC Serch or Pete Nice are available.
http://i.imgur.com/TdTMT.jpg
True story...my buddy got beat up by MC Serch at a field party in Damascus, MD in 1996.
SammyBirdland
10-03-2011, 09:46 PM
True story...my buddy got beat up by MC Serch at a field party in Damascus, MD in 1996.
Well MC Serch definitely gets the Gas Face for that.
http://i.imgur.com/NYp9u.gif
nate22
10-03-2011, 09:47 PM
Ok this is offtopic but I didn't want to start a new thread on an idea that may fail miserably. Anyways, Ryan Doumit will probably not have his option picked up by the Pirates and should become a free agent. He can catch, play 1B, RF and is a switch hitter. Any thoughts about signing him as Wieter's primary backup (with the opportunity to also fill a Jake Fox type of role aswell.)
I think he has a good chance to bounce back some with the bat and be a 125-130 OPS+ guy, but his glove is more worrisome imo and the reason why I would likely pass.
GoGoPower
10-03-2011, 10:35 PM
What would be the point in trading anything of value for one expensive year of David Wright? To flip him at the deadline for prospects? I think he could rebound with the bat and have a big year going from the NL East and Citi Field to the AL East and OPACY, but that would pretty much be negated by the fact that he's a worse defensive 3B than Reynolds and isn't going to sign a reasonable extension to stay here. I just don't see what the benefit would be for the Orioles unless you think the Mets would trade him for pretty much nothing and he'd bring back a pretty decent haul of prospects.
Ok this is offtopic but I didn't want to start a new thread on an idea that may fail miserably. Anyways, Ryan Doumit will probably not have his option picked up by the Pirates and should become a free agent. He can catch, play 1B, RF and is a switch hitter. Any thoughts about signing him as Wieter's primary backup (with the opportunity to also fill a Jake Fox type of role aswell.)
I think the Pirates are almost definitely going to exercise Doumit's options, but if they don't I personally wouldn't be very interested - he'd be pretty expensive for a backup catcher/DH and he's not a very good defensive player. I'd rather just give Jake Fox another chance.
nate22
10-03-2011, 11:54 PM
I think the Pirates are almost definitely going to exercise Doumit's options, but if they don't I personally wouldn't be very interested - he'd be pretty expensive for a backup catcher/DH and he's not a very good defensive player. I'd rather just give Jake Fox another chance.
You're probably right about that. I don't think the Pirates will pick up his options though, 2012-7.25 million, 2013-8.25 million.
GoldGlove21
10-04-2011, 12:04 AM
You're probably right about that. I don't think the Pirates will pick up his options though, 2012-7.25 million, 2013-8.25 million.
I agree that he would be expensive, but I am not sure that he would not be an upgrade for some team out there.
GoGoPower
10-04-2011, 12:43 AM
You're probably right about that. I don't think the Pirates will pick up his options though, 2012-7.25 million, 2013-8.25 million.
I mean, I don't think Doumit would be a bad option for the Orioles, he just wouldn't be my first choice for upgrading the offense.
There's definitely a good chance that the Pirates don't pick up Doumit's options and let him walk, but considering that their catching situation is a mess right now I think they'll bring him back. His options aren't bargains but the Pirates have a ton of payroll flexibility right now so the salary wouldn't be much of an issue for them unless they decided to make a splash and sign Fielder or Darvish. Tony Sanchez and Eric Fryer aren't ready yet and the free agent market for catchers is weak. I'd put my money on them picking up the options with the intention of trading him in 2013.
nate22
10-04-2011, 01:06 AM
I'm just tired of seeing Tatum in the lineup 2 times a week.
scOtt
10-04-2011, 02:44 AM
Without even checking into stats, or how good he is or any deep analysis or whether he'd sign an extension....
Trading MiL (and major?) resources (which we can't spare) for a HIGH dollar one-year option (which we ALSO can't spare...) for a guy who probably won't extend here..... MmmmI think I'll pass.
scOtt
10-04-2011, 02:51 AM
No, Corbin Bernsen for 3B, Charlie Sheen for closer. He can't walk more guys than Gregg did!
JUUUUSSSSSST a bit outside!
Ball four.
Ball eight.
Ball twelve and Vaughan has walked the bases loaded.
scOtt
10-04-2011, 02:53 AM
Wild Thing... :rofl:
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Jimbo81
10-04-2011, 08:28 AM
I'm more interested in Chase Headley.
Justinlstn
10-04-2011, 08:44 AM
I would be happy with David Wright. Looking up other star 3rd baseman he defensive numbers aren't bad compared to them. But offensively is where he would be valuable to us. If we can get him for a reasonable price without losing certain elite prospect in our system and can talk to him to get a long term deal with him then i say do it. But i agree if he is just a one year player that we would trade away or not resign then no i wouldn't. Then we would have a solid #3 hitter in our line up .
rochester
10-04-2011, 11:12 AM
For the life of me I will never understand why the Orioles are "stupid" for not trading Hardy for prospects but it would be ok to give up prospects for Wright... maybe it's me but how does that make sense?
Sports Guy
10-04-2011, 11:14 AM
For the life of me I will never understand why the Orioles are "stupid" for not trading Hardy for prospects but it would be ok to give up prospects for Wright... maybe it's me but how does that make sense?One is sell high, one is buy low.
rochester
10-04-2011, 11:18 AM
One is sell high, one is buy low.
I don't think the Mets would sell low though
Sports Guy
10-04-2011, 11:24 AM
I don't think the Mets would sell low thoughWell, I guess it depends on your definition...We obviously aren't getting him for a package like we gave up for Hardy.
Besides the defensive issues, I also agree with the sentiment that there's not much point trading prospects for 1 year of Wright. Regardless of if it's buying low, he'd still be costly and the O's are not in a position to contend next year.
backwardsk
10-04-2011, 03:09 PM
Besides the defensive issues, I also agree with the sentiment that there's not much point trading prospects for 1 year of Wright. Regardless of if it's buying low, he'd still be costly and the O's are not in a position to contend next year.
See, this is where that damn hardy trade bugs me. After that heist, I'm expecting to get a guy like wright for nothing. (no disrespect to hoey, Jacobsen, or their families.)
See, this is where that damn hardy trade bugs me. After that heist, I'm expecting to get a guy like wright for nothing. (no disrespect to hoey, Jacobsen, or their families.)
Well Wright was viewed as a young superstar and rightly so, and is still pretty productive offensively. Hardy's was coming off two injury plagued mediocre seasons and was never thought of being in the league of Wright even when he was having his big years. Wright would also be much harder to deal from a PR perspective for the Mets than Hardy was for the Twins.
I think his value is largely dependent on what teams think of his defense, but regardless his value must be much higher than Hardy's was.
Sports Guy
10-04-2011, 04:01 PM
Besides the defensive issues, I also agree with the sentiment that there's not much point trading prospects for 1 year of Wright. Regardless of if it's buying low, he'd still be costly and the O's are not in a position to contend next year.A big issue here will be if he voids that 2nd year option.
He has the right to void it...it doesn't void automatically.
If we can get a guarantee from him that he won't void it, then he becomes much more appealing.
A big issue here will be if he voids that 2nd year option.
He has the right to void it...it doesn't void automatically.
If we can get a guarantee from him that he won't void it, then he becomes much more appealing.
Sure, but I think the chances of that are remote.
scOtt
10-05-2011, 01:52 AM
Sure, but I think the chances of that are remote.
Yeah, if it was two years it makes it a lot more appealing. But even as bad as the Mets are year after year... they are still always thought of as contenders. We are most definitely not. If he got traded here he would want out of Dodge on the FIRST train.
PHRESH
10-05-2011, 03:18 AM
I know I'll probably upset a few people, but what about a deal involving Markakis? I personally prefer we keep him as he's one of my favorite players. But if you could get Wright for Kakes, perhaps You could sign a guy like Willingham and put Reimold in RF and keep Reynolds at 1B. Or maybe try and trade Tillman for a blocked OF prospect? I dunno, just throwing an idea out there.
Sports Guy
10-05-2011, 10:12 AM
Wright can void the option but he also may say that you have to pick it up to acquire him.
He could very well not want to be here but he may want 16M guaranteed more than the thought that he doesn't want to be here.
GoGoPower
10-05-2011, 10:21 AM
Wright can void the option but he also may say that you have to pick it up to acquire him.
He could very well not want to be here but he may want 16M guaranteed more than the thought that he doesn't want to be here.
What position would he play though? Do you put him at 3B or move him to LF/1B/DH? Even after Reynolds' awful season at third this year, I still believe that he would a better defensive option there going forward than Wright is.
Sports Guy
10-05-2011, 10:28 AM
What position would he play though? Do you put him at 3B or move him to LF/1B/DH? Even after Reynolds' awful season at third this year, I still believe that he would a better defensive option there going forward than Wright is.Ehh, I don't know about that.
I I remember reading something could be wrong with the defensive stats at the Mets new stadium. Whether that is valid or not, I don't know.
Either way, if you trade for him and hope to pick up his option, you need to leave him at third.
Unlike Reynolds, he has shown the ability to be an above average defensive third baseman.
El Gordo
10-05-2011, 01:31 PM
Wright has bee an above average fielder in 2 of his 7 full seasons. He has been trending down for the past 4. His career UZR/150 is -4. Last season he was -16.
jamalshw
10-05-2011, 01:41 PM
Regardless of defense, I don't want him because I don't want to give up much of anything for one year of Wright.
That said, if he would extend right away (not happening), then I join the skeptical camp about his defense. While I know defensive metrics are untrustworthy, I want to make sure he's going to provide good defense. I view pitching and defense to be the most important issues to address for the O's this offseason.