View Full Version : CAPS 1st half thread.
allstar1579
10-15-2011, 09:44 PM
No need for eating up room on the board with individual threads for all the games...
Caps looked good tonight, 2-1 win over OTT. Great 1st period, all the scoring, Vokoun looked real good, gave up a tough angle shot with less than a min in the first, but aside from that played well.
Defense looks amazing, especially offensively. MJ90 really got the message in game 1 and had another goal tonight.
4-0 start, and I really find myself wondering if this team isn't going to find a way to win 60 games this year. Let's hope to stay healthy, but I'm getting a really good feeling about that big silver cup.
Skeletor
10-15-2011, 09:56 PM
Hockey has periods, not halves.
allstar1579
10-15-2011, 09:57 PM
Hockey has periods, not halves.
...of the season...
DuffMan
10-17-2011, 09:13 AM
No need for eating up room on the board with individual threads for all the games...
Caps looked good tonight, 2-1 win over OTT. Great 1st period, all the scoring, Vokoun looked real good, gave up a tough angle shot with less than a min in the first, but aside from that played well.
Defense looks amazing, especially offensively. MJ90 really got the message in game 1 and had another goal tonight.
4-0 start, and I really find myself wondering if this team isn't going to find a way to win 60 games this year. Let's hope to stay healthy, but I'm getting a really good feeling about that big silver cup.
For all of the "problems" this team has right now they are 4-0 and Ovechkin hasn't done much yet. Get him and a few other guys rolling and watch out.
The defense has been great, hopefully they can keep these guys healthy although Erskine is a more than adequate #7 and not to mention Orlov down at Hershey.
I didn't see the game Saturday, but it's nice to see them get a PP goal. PP will be one of the areas I'm going to keep an eye on this year to see if they can make a return to their past success. The other area I'm interested in will be Faceoffs, we've lost a few of our specialists. So I'm hoping the other guys can step up. It would be great if MJ90 could be closer to 50% this year.
I'm not making any predictions about the playoffs right now but I don't see any reason that they won't win the division again and compete for the top seed in the East.
The Rick
10-18-2011, 10:43 PM
Caps are off to their first 5-0 start in franchise history with a date with the Flyers on the cusp come Thursday. That should be a great early season match up. Defense played great tonight, as did Vokoun with a nice shut out.
allstar1579
10-18-2011, 11:04 PM
I'm glad Vokoun is proving my doubts wrong, but I still have lingering concerns that he played that badly after whining about not getting the first start. Makes me wonder if he loses focus during a season. Seemed pretty hot-headed. Look around the NHL I don't think there is 1 goalie that has played all 5 games for their team.
Sanfran327
10-19-2011, 08:04 AM
Quite frankly, when it comes to April and May, I'm not going to be able to sit here and say, 'Hey, we were 5-0 and got that record. Isn't that great?' It's not going to really hold a lot of weight," Boudreau said. "It's nice, but it's just a process of getting to where we want to get.
They say this every year now. Let's hope they mean it this time.
http://scores.espn.go.com/nhl/recap?gameId=400047186
DuffMan
10-19-2011, 01:26 PM
Next two games against Philly and Detroit both are off to great starts as well, should make for some good hockey games.
OsnRavensallday
10-20-2011, 01:01 PM
Yea I agree Duffman Philly n Detroit are great test to see where we are at, and after that we have the Canucks and the Ducks.lol. I'm not afraid of any of them tho, we have been lookin pretty good. After his 1st game I have been really impressed with Vokoun, hopefully he keeps it up. I am gettin sick n tired of all the bashing on Ovie , hopefully he will get on fire here in the next game or two to shut up the critics.
allstar1579
10-20-2011, 07:17 PM
Man, Philly is legit. If we don't take 1st in the East, they will. I thought they'd be tough but middle of the pack regular season with all the changes. They don't look like they are going to miss Richards or Carter much. Eek.
Also, the refs made a bad call on the dive, and missed two trips right afterwards. Ugh.
The Rick
10-20-2011, 07:22 PM
Man, Philly is legit. If we don't take 1st in the East, they will. I thought they'd be tough but middle of the pack regular season with all the changes. They don't look like they are going to miss Richards or Carter much. Eek.
Also, the refs made a bad call on the dive, and missed two trips right afterwards. Ugh.
They really do look very good. They're playing good D too, we've struggled to even get a clean shot off to this point.
allstar1579
10-20-2011, 07:40 PM
They really do look very good. They're playing good D too, we've struggled to even get a clean shot off to this point.
Yeah much more balance than I expected. They are built JUST like us. It's scary.
The Rick
10-20-2011, 07:46 PM
Yeah much more balance than I expected. They are built JUST like us. It's scary.
Agreed.
On a better note, these last 2 minutes have been a good a sequence as we've seen from the Caps on the young season so far. Two quick goals, in a period where not much was going at all for the Caps, have us up 2-1 heading into the 1st intermission. And Ovie is finally on the board!!!
allstar1579
10-20-2011, 08:24 PM
Agreed.
On a better note, these last 2 minutes have been a good a sequence as we've seen from the Caps on the young season so far. Two quick goals, in a period where not much was going at all for the Caps, have us up 2-1 heading into the 1st intermission. And Ovie is finally on the board!!!
Yeah that's about how I expect our season to go, some good grinding goal from the 3rd line, then a goal from the top line right behind it. The 2nd line is having a hard time getting going, but I think part of that is the "dive" on Semin, then the missed double minor the 2nd time on Laich. Flyers are just physically bruising that line.
allstar1579
10-20-2011, 09:34 PM
Ugh, I hate junk goals. Good statement game right there though. Let's get it against DET!!! <crying because I had the tickets and can't go to the game>
The Rick
10-23-2011, 01:59 PM
Man that but whooping of the Red Wings last night was awesome. Next to Pittsburgh, Detroit is the team I love beating the most. I'll always seek revenge from that 1998 SC sweep.
WietersOvechkin
10-23-2011, 09:36 PM
Man that but whooping of the Red Wings last night was awesome. Next to Pittsburgh, Detroit is the team I love beating the most. I'll always seek revenge from that 1998 SC sweep.
Esa Tikkanen still haunts my dreams :angryfire:.
It's always nice to win a game like this even though games in October do not determine how we play in April and May. I do agree that things look a little different this year with the stars not getting the same ice time as they normally did. Last year Ovie was getting over 20 minutes a night on the regular and maybe started to ware down when they got the to playoffs. I like how BB has handled the ice time so far this year.
allstar1579
10-23-2011, 11:54 PM
Esa Tikkanen still haunts my dreams :angryfire:.
It's always nice to win a game like this even though games in October do not determine how we play in April and May. I do agree that things look a little different this year with the stars not getting the same ice time as they normally did. Last year Ovie was getting over 20 minutes a night on the regular and maybe started to ware down when they got the to playoffs. I like how BB has handled the ice time so far this year.
Yeah I think he feels more comfortable throwing any line out at almost any time. You have scorers on all 4 lines. You have physical guys on all 4 lines. You have defensive guys on all 4 (give or take a line). It's incredibly balanced. As long as we can stay healthy, and Vokoun keeps playing well and keeps his attitude in check, I think we do really well this year.
I look at our team right now and feel like I did when I watched the Red Wings back in 1997-1998. You just felt like they were unstoppable, you might steal a win here or there, but in a 4-win series, you had no shot.
DuffMan
10-25-2011, 07:49 AM
Didn't get to watch Saturdays game, but gotta love beating the Red Wings 7-1. Backstsrom seems to have put last years struggles behind them and it's amazing what a healthy Mike Green can do for the PP. I believe that's now 4 or 5 games straight with a pp goal, definitely a good sign to see. The team does have great depth and balance on all of it's lines. I was skeptical about having Perreault on the 4th line but he's proving me wrong I hope he can keep it up.
Mashed Potatoes
10-28-2011, 01:44 AM
Dammit, I had been telling everybody that the Caps were going undefeated this year.
allstar1579
10-28-2011, 10:13 AM
Dammit, I had been telling everybody that the Caps were going undefeated this year.
You still can...AT HOME. ;)
I knew it was coming either last night or against Anaheim next Tuesday. The jet lag and days off really mess teams up, they didn't completely look like themselves, and when they had given up 8 power plays in the first two periods I knew the streak was over and went to bed. Can't believe they were still in it after that.
Araqnid
10-28-2011, 10:22 AM
Dammit, I had been telling everybody that the Caps were going undefeated this year.
Kinda hard when you give the other team 8 power plays through 2. I'm not sure that I technically disagree with a lot of the penalties, but if you're calling them against one team, you need to be calling them against another. I counted 3 different instances where players on both teams arguably made penalties - the Caps were called each time, and the Oilers were called 1.
And Andy Sutton is a awful person.
allstar1579
10-28-2011, 10:32 AM
Kinda hard when you give the other team 8 power plays through 2. I'm not sure that I technically disagree with a lot of the penalties, but if you're calling them against one team, you need to be calling them against another. I counted 3 different instances where players on both teams arguably made penalties - the Caps were called each time, and the Oilers were called 1.
And Andy Sutton is a awful person.
You forgot when there were legit calls on EDM, and somehow they'd find something crazy to call on the CAPS to negate a PP. Like the "dive" on Hendricks in the first. I've never seen so many coincidental minors in one game in my life. If we find out the refs are Canadian I'd be really worried for the integrity of N. American hockey.
Mashed Potatoes
10-28-2011, 06:22 PM
I don't think I'd ever seen a game where a team spent 10 minutes of a single period a man down. Nutz.
allstar1579
10-28-2011, 06:44 PM
I don't think I'd ever seen a game where a team spent 10 minutes of a single period a man down. Nutz.
I've been watching for 30 years and I haven't either. I couldn't stomach watching another period like that. Of course they made a couple dumb moves, but there were at least 4 awful calls throughout the night.
The Rick
10-29-2011, 10:52 PM
Nothing quite like going out west and flipping the switch off. They look like crap tonight in Vancouver.
The Rick
10-29-2011, 11:19 PM
Nothing quite like going out west and flipping the switch off. They look like crap tonight in Vancouver.
Probably shouldn't have knee jerked after the 1st period. Caps have come out hot in the 2nd period. Neuvirth subs in for Vokoun to start the period, Ovie rockets home a power play goal, and Knuble squeaks in a penalty shot.
allstar1579
10-30-2011, 01:06 AM
Probably shouldn't have knee jerked after the 1st period. Caps have come out hot in the 2nd period. Neuvirth subs in for Vokoun to start the period, Ovie rockets home a power play goal, and Knuble squeaks in a penalty shot.
They made it a great game til the 3rd...ugh. Looks like we are NOT a WC team. Oh well, win some lose some. They got some terrible goaltending though, so hopefully one of those two will get back on track. Two awful goals Vokoun gave up tonight (1st & 3rd), and Neuvy didn't look much better in the 3rd. The D has to bail them out and play tougher though, Collins being out there is KILLING us.
Dr. FLK
10-30-2011, 07:23 AM
So, does Mike Green really make this much difference? Without him, they look putrid.
allstar1579
10-30-2011, 09:53 AM
So, does Mike Green really make this much difference? Without him, they look putrid.
It's not really him. They didn't look bad in Edmonton, just fell victim to some really bad calls. They gave up some soft ones last night, but that was as much the goalies as the D. Green is ok defensively, but not great. I just know Collins was standing still watching the play a couple times last night. The problem is they need to limit how much he's on the ice and give his ice time to someone else, but they don't want to penalize whoever his partner is that way (Hamrlik/Schultz)
DuffMan
10-31-2011, 02:32 PM
It's not really him. They didn't look bad in Edmonton, just fell victim to some really bad calls. They gave up some soft ones last night, but that was as much the goalies as the D. Green is ok defensively, but not great. I just know Collins was standing still watching the play a couple times last night. The problem is they need to limit how much he's on the ice and give his ice time to someone else, but they don't want to penalize whoever his partner is that way (Hamrlik/Schultz)
Missing Green does hurt, but you are right that the bigger problem is having to run Collins out there. Hopefully Erskine can get back into action soon as he would be a much better option than Collins.
DuffMan
11-03-2011, 08:08 AM
Well Erskine made his return in the Caps come back win against the Ducks, nice win by the way and a great game from Backstrom who seems to have put last year behind him and is off to a much better start this year. We also saw the NHL debut of Cody Eakin as Halpern was a healthy scratch. Not sure when Green will be back, but no need to rush him right now, I'm more concerned with Neuvirth getting a few starts as it looks like Vokoun could use a breather. And for those looking for a little drama BB proved that his accountability rules goes for the whole team as Ovie wasn't on the ice at the end of the game when the Caps needed a goal to tie it up. Ovie definitely wasn't happy about this as a camera on the bench caught him calling BB a "fat truck" only he didn't use the word truck if you catch my drift. I'll just chalk this up to the heat of the moment and not be too concerned about it, but I will be interested to see how Ovechkin responds in the Caps next game.
allstar1579
11-03-2011, 10:09 AM
Yeah, but you knew it had to happen at some point this season. Ovi had to be held accountable just like everyone else. I give BB a lot of credit for being brave enough to do it. Hopefully he has the maturity to realize that he hasn't been producing and you have to get someone out there that is. You have to wonder why he went from being a point and half per game guy to a point per game guy over 2 years now though.
The Rick
11-03-2011, 10:27 PM
Yeah, but you knew it had to happen at some point this season. Ovi had to be held accountable just like everyone else. I give BB a lot of credit for being brave enough to do it. Hopefully he has the maturity to realize that he hasn't been producing and you have to get someone out there that is. You have to wonder why he went from being a point and half per game guy to a point per game guy over 2 years now though.
A lot of people thought his bruising style of play would make his prime shorter. I hope that isn't the case here though.
allstar1579
11-04-2011, 09:02 AM
A lot of people thought his bruising style of play would make his prime shorter. I hope that isn't the case here though.
I think part of it is he uses the same ol' moves he's used since his rookie year, and the league caught on to them a couple years back. The only time I ever see him score anymore is on that one-timer right in front of the goal when he drops to one knee. I have a feeling it's him letting up because he has so many other guys that can make plays, and he's not trying as hard as he used to, but I hope that's not the case.
Remember The Alomar
11-04-2011, 10:08 PM
That was fun. Eakin looked fantastic. Gotta think that quick whistle changed the momentum of the game, though.
Remember The Alomar
11-04-2011, 11:56 PM
I'll just leave this here...
http://i1131.photobucket.com/albums/m545/dimagus/2011-2012%20NHL%20Season/SkinnerHissyFit-Carolina11042011-01.gif
MuhladaOs
11-05-2011, 01:34 AM
LMAO Jeff Skinner was pretty angry! Carlson had a nice RIP FROM THE POINT! I love that kid. M90 with a sick pass to Troy Brouwer tape to tape. Backstrom is really using his body to create space and feed the puck to shooters. Gotta love our depth!
OsnRavensallday
11-06-2011, 06:56 PM
That Skinner reaction is pretty funny, but bout the crappy loss the the Islanders how many post shots we end up with???? had to be atleast 3.
allstar1579
11-06-2011, 09:53 PM
That Skinner reaction is pretty funny, but bout the crappy loss the the Islanders how many post shots we end up with???? had to be atleast 3.
I passed out in the 2nd sometime. (stupid muscle relaxers will knock you on your butt) But I caught the highlights this morning. Looked like a combo of bad luck and bad goaltending. Vokoun even said he gave up 3 soft goals, you give up a couple of those in one game and your offense kinda gets defeated, that's why you see more 5-1 games than 5-4 games in hockey. Sucks, but it's a long season.
Even Vokoun was talking about needing rest, I think I read something like he's never started more than 57 games in a season, but figuring out when he needs rest is something BB needs to figure out, it's a struggle for him because he is NOT a goaltending guy.
DuffMan
11-07-2011, 08:08 AM
Bad game by Vokoun and it was the 2nd game in 2 days, those things are going to happen some time. If Neuvirth can play like he did against Carolina it shouldn't be too hard for BB to give Vokoun a breather once in a while.
erb8472
11-17-2011, 11:52 PM
Bad game by Vokoun and it was the 2nd game in 2 days, those things are going to happen some time. If Neuvirth can play like he did against Carolina it shouldn't be too hard for BB to give Vokoun a breather once in a while.
Neuvirth's inconsistency is what will make this so hard. Bad game from him tonight. Hopefully they can somehow muster 3 late goals, but looks like another loss in Canada.
DT undercover
11-18-2011, 03:01 AM
So disappointed with this team. The goaltending has been piss poor in the games we score 1-2 goals and outstanding in the games we score 4-6 goals. While it seems we are unbeatable when Green is in the lineup that is becoming rare. He gets dinged up every time he steps on the ice.
Ovi is not the player he was 3-4 years ago. Yeah, the league has really clamped down on him, but his game and more specifically his moves with the puck are the same every game. He either trips over his own feet or loses the puck trying to get around the D-man.
I would say Backstrom and Johannson have been the two best players for us this year and Green would be in the conversation, but isn't around enough.
Sorry....rant over :(
Remember The Alomar
11-18-2011, 04:00 AM
You guys tricked me into thinking this team was good.
MuhladaOs
11-18-2011, 04:31 AM
You guys tricked me into thinking this team was good.
It's really tough watching them play lately. The stars really need to come through offensively. And like many of you have been saying we need a bit more consistency in net.
Ovechkin had a lot of opportunities for a shot on net and he decided to pass instead.......why? I mean granted he made some nice passes to set up Backstrom, but he is a shooter and a world-class goal scorer. Ovi you need to shoot!
Honestly this team feeds off his scoring and they certainly need more of that from our captain.
Mashed Potatoes
11-18-2011, 09:00 AM
I liked it better when we were good.
DuffMan
11-23-2011, 10:23 AM
Quite the turn of events lately with the Caps. Went through a 4 game skid that was finally broken on Monday against Phoenix despite giving up 2 short handed goals (eesh). Orlov made his NHL debut in that game as well and I definitely liked seeing him paired with Alzner as he's probably your best stay at home Dman and can help him out alot. Perreault was finally given a sweater again and looked like he was playing well. I really didn't get the point of him being scratched for 6 (approximately) straight games as he had been playing well before that. I understand that you want Eakin to get ice time, but I feel like Perreault could have/should have saw some time as well.
Of course the big news was Sasha getting the healthy scratch on Monday. BB had already benched him for the 3rd period in a game previously, but that didn't seem to wake him up as he continue to amass more penalties than points. Between the offensive zone penalties and the dives it was definitely time to sit him. I'm looking forward to tonights game to see how he responds to the healthy scratch. I will also be curious to see how Ovie responds to his best bud getting scratched, Ovechkin has looked quite ordinary lately but did seem to play better on Monday. Let's hope this motivates him to play better. Who knows maybe Crosby being back as well will get him going again.
allstar1579
11-23-2011, 11:07 AM
Quite the turn of events lately with the Caps. Went through a 4 game skid that was finally broken on Monday against Phoenix despite giving up 2 short handed goals (eesh). Orlov made his NHL debut in that game as well and I definitely liked seeing him paired with Alzner as he's probably your best stay at home Dman and can help him out alot. Perreault was finally given a sweater again and looked like he was playing well. I really didn't get the point of him being scratched for 6 (approximately) straight games as he had been playing well before that. I understand that you want Eakin to get ice time, but I feel like Perreault could have/should have saw some time as well.
Of course the big news was Sasha getting the healthy scratch on Monday. BB had already benched him for the 3rd period in a game previously, but that didn't seem to wake him up as he continue to amass more penalties than points. Between the offensive zone penalties and the dives it was definitely time to sit him. I'm looking forward to tonights game to see how he responds to the healthy scratch. I will also be curious to see how Ovie responds to his best bud getting scratched, Ovechkin has looked quite ordinary lately but did seem to play better on Monday. Let's hope this motivates him to play better. Who knows maybe Crosby being back as well will get him going again.
I've been doing my best to not comment on this hot mess recently. The Orlov move was in reaction to not having Green. They were trying to put Wideman and Hamrlik in that offensive role, and it should have fallen to Carlson. The problem with that is he was part of your "shut down" pair with Alzner so they couldn't use him in all the offensive and defensive situations. Now you've split them and you put Alzner with Orlov which means you aren't going to put Alzner in the big defensive situations because you aren't putting a rookie out there for those. This is one of BB's big weaknesses, he doesn't understand defense or goaltending much at all, and it hasn't gotten better the past few years. Sometimes I look at his pairs and lineups and just shake my head.
Perreault is getting scratched because honestly, he's still not an NHL player, but you need that fringe AAAA type player that can fill in when he needs to or be benched and it's not killing you (that's why Beagle was up here ahead of him, giving him a chance to try to show he could be a skilled line guy in Hershey).
Sasha should have been traded 43 times by now. I don't know why they are acting shocked he's playing like this, he has his entire career. I almost get the feeling he and Ovechkin are playing to get BB fired though. Which really bothers me.
DuffMan
11-23-2011, 11:33 AM
I've been doing my best to not comment on this hot mess recently. The Orlov move was in reaction to not having Green. They were trying to put Wideman and Hamrlik in that offensive role, and it should have fallen to Carlson. The problem with that is he was part of your "shut down" pair with Alzner so they couldn't use him in all the offensive and defensive situations. Now you've split them and you put Alzner with Orlov which means you aren't going to put Alzner in the big defensive situations because you aren't putting a rookie out there for those. This is one of BB's big weaknesses, he doesn't understand defense or goaltending much at all, and it hasn't gotten better the past few years. Sometimes I look at his pairs and lineups and just shake my head.
Perreault is getting scratched because honestly, he's still not an NHL player, but you need that fringe AAAA type player that can fill in when he needs to or be benched and it's not killing you (that's why Beagle was up here ahead of him, giving him a chance to try to show he could be a skilled line guy in Hershey).
Sasha should have been traded 43 times by now. I don't know why they are acting shocked he's playing like this, he has his entire career. I almost get the feeling he and Ovechkin are playing to get BB fired though. Which really bothers me.
Forgot all about Green. I don't know what his deal is, dude seems to be hurt all the time now, but they are definitely missing having him out there.
I've always been in the camp of trading Sasha as well and still would like to see that happen. I read a comment somewhere that it seems like lately Semin's bad habits are rubbing off on Ovechkin when they were hoping it would be the other way.
Something else I forgot to mention is the goalies as neither has looked that great lately, although it's hard to get on a roll without regular PT. I would say give Holtby a start to see what he can do, but he's not playing too well at Hershey. Also was looking up Varly's numbers in Colarado and he hasn't been playing well for them at all. Currently has a 3.3 GAA and 89% Save percentage, Yuck!
allstar1579
11-23-2011, 12:52 PM
Forgot all about Green. I don't know what his deal is, dude seems to be hurt all the time now, but they are definitely missing having him out there.
I've always been in the camp of trading Sasha as well and still would like to see that happen. I read a comment somewhere that it seems like lately Semin's bad habits are rubbing off on Ovechkin when they were hoping it would be the other way.
Something else I forgot to mention is the goalies as neither has looked that great lately, although it's hard to get on a roll without regular PT. I would say give Holtby a start to see what he can do, but he's not playing too well at Hershey. Also was looking up Varly's numbers in Colarado and he hasn't been playing well for them at all. Currently has a 3.3 GAA and 89% Save percentage, Yuck!
Yeah he's been pretty fragile, but I have a feeling these injuries all tie together and it's been one long lingering from concussion thing. They don't have to disclose much about injuries, so we'll never know.
I wish we would have dealt him in the offseason, but his value is taking a hit now. He's shown today a MUCH better attitude, taking optional skates, getting extra work, even signing autographs (he's notorious for refusing), so that's a good sign. I would love to see a Semin to CMB for Nash or Carter deal happen though. I think Ovi is still pouting about getting benched a few weeks ago, he's very emotional and holds grudges. The only way it's going to get through to him is to see the rest of the team winning and him being the weak link. If the rest of the team is playing poorly as well as him he'll just see it as a group thing. I don't think he's realized how much of it is him yet.
Nail on head. Goalies are a weird thing, and I know I talked about it the past 2 seasons a lot, but a goalie split NEVER works. They never get enough of a groove and they are constantly worried about being pulled or not playing anymore and they never get that confidence they need to be sharp. He needs to pick a guy and ride it out. I've said since they got him I worry about Vokoun being that guy, he's more sensitive than most and if he gets benched for a few games will sulk about it.
Again it comes back to BB not understanding goalies or how they work.
Remember The Alomar
11-23-2011, 09:39 PM
Semin and Ovie both look lively tonight. That 5-3 was pretty intense/awesome as well.
Remember The Alomar
11-23-2011, 10:22 PM
Guhhhhhhh
Remember The Alomar
11-23-2011, 10:37 PM
That was entertaining.
allstar1579
11-28-2011, 09:29 AM
Boudreau is out, DALE FREAKIN' HUNTER is in.
Sorry if I sound excited, he's like my all-time favorite Capital.
ChaosLex
11-28-2011, 09:31 AM
Boudreau is out, DALE FREAKIN' HUNTER is in.
Sorry if I sound excited, he's like my all-time favorite Capital.
You think this needed to happen?
allstar1579
11-28-2011, 09:49 AM
You think this needed to happen?
I think Ovi and Semin were playing for him to get fired. He's been gone since last week, they day after the last bad loss when GMGM, Leonsis and Ovi had a meeting, that wasn't a lets see whats wrong meeting, that was a what do you think of these potential coaches meeting.
It sucks, I like BB, but his shortcomings of being an offensive guy with NO idea how to grasp D or Goaltending caught up to him.
Everyone will now point at how he's the fastest to get to this many wins...he had a GREAT winning %...blah blah blah.
Truth is, he got lucky. He got hired onto a GREAT team at the right time, and they turned a corner for him. Anyone could have come in and done that well during that period. Well...almost anyone.
The Caps have had some great coaches in the past, and I think Hunter is the next in that long line, I just didn't think he'd take the job being the owner of a minor league team.
DuffMan
11-28-2011, 10:11 AM
Boudreau is out, DALE FREAKIN' HUNTER is in.
Sorry if I sound excited, he's like my all-time favorite Capital.
Woah, quite the news to start the Monday. I kinda figured he would be on the hot seat and those two clunker of games over the weekend sure didn't help his cause, but I'm still a little surprised that they did this, but I guess it had to be done. It will be interesting to see how the team responds/plays with Hunter in charge. They play the Blues tomorrow night and then host Crosby and the Pens on Thursday, that one will definitely be a must watch!
erb8472
11-28-2011, 10:15 AM
Hunter is not going to put up with any nonsense. If they are winning that's ok, but if they are losing it could get ugly pretty quick.
The Rick
11-28-2011, 10:45 AM
You think this needed to happen?
It needed to happen a while ago, IMO.
Here's (http://www.japersrink.com/2011/11/28/2154573/breaking-capitals-fire-bruce-boudreau) a great run down of the situation by Japers' Rink.
And while no single quote sealed his fate, this one from Boudreau's post-game presser last night encapsulates why his time was up:
"[Mental fortitude has] got to come from within, I've got to believe. I'm hoping that's got to come from within because if I've got to teach them how to be tough, then I don't know quite how to do that."
"Hoping" and "I don't know how" don't inspire a lot of confidence, and sure do sound eerily similar to some of Glen Hanlon's last words as Capitals bench boss nearly four years ago to the day (in fact, so do a lot of quotes). As George McPhee said then, "For the most part this year, I thought we were a team that played hard but wasn't getting rewarded. But the last few games, it looked like we had lost the team, and you can't ignore that." Don't be surprised to see a similar quote today.
Dr. FLK
11-28-2011, 10:49 AM
I'm a little torn on this. On one hand, I'm glad that they brought in someone like Hunter. I believe his attitude is the kind of thing that this team needs. On the other hand, I feel like I've been watching a team of stars who clearly quit on BB. Do we really have a team full of selfish, whiny, prima donas? If so, I think greater changes need to be made.
Is the Hunter hire the only big move made? Or, is this just the start? Will they finally deal Semin?
The Rick
11-28-2011, 10:53 AM
Hopefully the first thing Hunter does is take the C off Ovie's sweater and make someone earn it.
flashjordnk
11-28-2011, 01:52 PM
I think Ovi and Semin were playing for him to get fired.
I'm not sure if it was to that degree that you seem to think here. Well coached teams play better than not well coached teams. But Ovie doesn't seem like the kind of guy to just give up on a game. Semin needs his head straightened out, but I'm not sure they were tanking for him to get fired.
They were playing at a level that he deserved to get fired, that'll I'll def. agree with.
allstar1579
11-28-2011, 02:25 PM
I'm not sure if it was to that degree that you seem to think here. Well coached teams play better than not well coached teams. But Ovie doesn't seem like the kind of guy to just give up on a game. Semin needs his head straightened out, but I'm not sure they were tanking for him to get fired.
They were playing at a level that he deserved to get fired, that'll I'll def. agree with.
I watched him stand still in a few games recently. (Ovi) He has NEVER stood still on the ice before, and it all started when he got benched for OT earlier this season. That's not coaching, that's being lazy, and he's never been a lazy player before. We'll see tonight, but it struck me as really off.
DuffMan
11-28-2011, 02:37 PM
I watched him stand still in a few games recently. (Ovi) He has NEVER stood still on the ice before, and it all started when he got benched for OT earlier this season. That's not coaching, that's being lazy, and he's never been a lazy player before. We'll see tonight, but it struck me as really off.
What would happen if they traded Sasha? Would he (Ovi) be inspired/fired up and play harder or would he sulk and continue to just go through the motions?
allstar1579
11-28-2011, 06:19 PM
What would happen if they traded Sasha? Would he (Ovi) be inspired/fired up and play harder or would he sulk and continue to just go through the motions?
He actually wasn't all that close with him their first couple years together, so I don't know that it'd matter a TON. We will find out soon, if Sasha plays like he usually does, he'll get shipped out.
MikeAD
11-30-2011, 10:11 PM
My girlfriends friend has luxury box for tomorrow's Pens/Caps game.
I may murder her and wear her skin.
allstar1579
11-30-2011, 11:02 PM
My girlfriends friend has luxury box for tomorrow's Pens/Caps game.
I may murder her and wear her skin.
And she's not taking you? That's grounds for EX-girlfriend level.
allstar1579
11-30-2011, 11:05 PM
I was hoping to just ignore this because I was touting this guy to get a role on the big club to start the year...but Sjogren is leaving the team to go back to Sweden. MAJOR burned bridges in the process too. He was called "nothing better than a 4th line C" and told if he wants to quit now then "we don't want him here".
Brutal stuff. Missed on that one...sucks.
You're going to see some trades soon. Hunter is evaluating and the deal is he's supposed to give GMGM a list of guys he doesn't want in a couple weeks.
MikeAD
11-30-2011, 11:38 PM
And she's not taking you? That's grounds for EX-girlfriend level.
Not even taking the girlfriend.
I see your point tough, guilty by association.
Floater
12-01-2011, 12:30 AM
Bruce probably wasn't too surprised by his early exit this season, he is pretty used to early exits.
DuffMan
12-01-2011, 08:13 AM
Bruce probably wasn't too surprised by his early exit this season, he is pretty used to early exits.
And just like that Gabby has a new gig. Takes over as head coach of the Ducks. Anaheim has been struggling lately, but they have some offensive firepower led by Cory Perry. It will be interesting to see how the team does under BB
DuffMan
12-01-2011, 08:18 AM
I was hoping to just ignore this because I was touting this guy to get a role on the big club to start the year...but Sjogren is leaving the team to go back to Sweden. MAJOR burned bridges in the process too. He was called "nothing better than a 4th line C" and told if he wants to quit now then "we don't want him here".
Brutal stuff. Missed on that one...sucks.
You're going to see some trades soon. Hunter is evaluating and the deal is he's supposed to give GMGM a list of guys he doesn't want in a couple weeks.
Tough news there, we seem to either hit a homerun (Backstrom, MJ90) or strikeout (Sjogren, Gustafsson) with the Swedes no in between there.
So if Hunter is making a list of guys he doesn't want I'm sure Semin will be at the top of the list, but who else could be on it? Hamrlik maybe?
allstar1579
12-01-2011, 09:44 AM
Tough news there, we seem to either hit a homerun (Backstrom, MJ90) or strikeout (Sjogren, Gustafsson) with the Swedes no in between there.
So if Hunter is making a list of guys he doesn't want I'm sure Semin will be at the top of the list, but who else could be on it? Hamrlik maybe?
I dunno, time will tell. I'm guessing it's going to depend on who is going to really work, and who's going to try to coast by. Orlov seems to be holding his own pretty well though, so I imagine you'll see something happen with one of the veterans.
Mashed Potatoes
12-04-2011, 12:07 PM
Went to the game last night, my first one of the season. The crowd was a bit lethargic except for when we all got to scream "UNLEASH THE FURY!" For those who haven't experienced the late game tradition check this out, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nd9EzSgMrME&feature=related it's a lot of fun.
MJ90 was the catalyst for most of our offensive opportunities, man that guy can fly! Ovi had a couple of his classic explosions down the left side but seemed to mishandle the puck or simply get beat by the defender every time. The most impressive player on the ice might've been Erik Karlsson for the Sens though, he's going to be special.
Good to see Hunter get his first win, I'm looking forward to the rest of the season.
allstar1579
12-04-2011, 01:00 PM
Went to the game last night, my first one of the season. The crowd was a bit lethargic except for when we all got to scream "UNLEASH THE FURY!" For those who haven't experienced the late game tradition check this out, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nd9EzSgMrME&feature=related it's a lot of fun.
MJ90 was the catalyst for most of our offensive opportunities, man that guy can fly! Ovi had a couple of his classic explosions down the left side but seemed to mishandle the puck or simply get beat by the defender every time. The most impressive player on the ice might've been Erik Karlsson for the Sens though, he's going to be special.
Good to see Hunter get his first win, I'm looking forward to the rest of the season.
Glad you got to catch "the fury". They don't do it at all the games, just when it's close and there is a timeout at the end (or they squeeze it in before OT starts). An OT win is a good game to go to, but yeah I expect the crowds are beaten down a little bit right now because of the losing streak. It will get better.
I'm holding back a lot of my games to go to til later in the season, just too busy with the holidays right now. Hopefully they will work things out and start scoring again, but I'm getting the impression it's going to be a defensive based system, which is going to turn off a lot of casual fans.
OsnRavensallday
12-05-2011, 09:26 PM
Nice not what I wanted to hear, we would be a way better team if we were an offensive minded team like a few years back. I wouldn't mind seeing Semin,Shultz,Hamirlik,Neuvirth and possibly Green in the right deal, something has to change. I don't think Hunter is the answer to our coaching answers but it's still way too early to tell.
allstar1579
12-05-2011, 10:48 PM
Nice not what I wanted to hear, we would be a way better team if we were an offensive minded team like a few years back. I wouldn't mind seeing Semin,Shultz,Hamirlik,Neuvirth and possibly Green in the right deal, something has to change. I don't think Hunter is the answer to our coaching answers but it's still way too early to tell.
I think you might see a semi-large shake up pretty soon. I'm thinking my opinion on Vokoun looks about dead on. He's been a little better than I thought, but not much, and Neuvy has looked terrible, but I think some of that is being young and frustrated about Vokoun.
FarmSystem
12-06-2011, 12:52 AM
Its time to fire George McPhee. He's been here for over 14 years and the only success he's had is was the former GM's team. This is his mess, he was kept on for the rebuild of his previous roster that fell apart, and they still can't get it done.
DuffMan
12-08-2011, 02:59 PM
More games like that from our Captain please. If anyone caught the game or saw the highlight of his goal last night, that was vintage Ovie. Let's hope we see more of that going forward. Nice win last night. Backstrom continues to play solid and Carlson looks to be heating up as well which would help alot since we still have no Mike Green. Speaking of which I filed a missing persons reports with the police in regards to Green I hope he turns up soon. One of the big things last night was the Caps put 44 shots on goal, lets hope they can continue to put SOG and be successful at it as well. One concern though was the penalties. This was the second game in a row with 6 pp opportunities for the opponent, it burned them on Monday and could've burned them last night, but thankfully the PK unit played better last night. Regardless they need to cut down on the infractions, hard to get into any sort of flow and play your game when you are spending so much time in the box.
Bosibus
12-08-2011, 09:34 PM
More games like that from our Captain please. If anyone caught the game or saw the highlight of his goal last night, that was vintage Ovie. Let's hope we see more of that going forward. Nice win last night. Backstrom continues to play solid and Carlson looks to be heating up as well which would help alot since we still have no Mike Green. Speaking of which I filed a missing persons reports with the police in regards to Green I hope he turns up soon. One of the big things last night was the Caps put 44 shots on goal, lets hope they can continue to put SOG and be successful at it as well. One concern though was the penalties. This was the second game in a row with 6 pp opportunities for the opponent, it burned them on Monday and could've burned them last night, but thankfully the PK unit played better last night. Regardless they need to cut down on the infractions, hard to get into any sort of flow and play your game when you are spending so much time in the box.
Pulled the E-brake.
allstar1579
12-09-2011, 11:16 AM
Looks like Hunter wants to build a team like they had in the 80's, which had 4 offensive defensemen they through out all the time, and then 2 guys that were defensive stoppers they would use when they had to. Looks like the 2 defensive guys are Alzner and Erskine, and Hamrlik and Schultz are in the doghouse. If Green is back that gives you Green, Wideman, Orlov and Carlson...which does kinda remind me of the Hatcher, Iafrate, Johansson, Cote group.
If anyone wasn't around in those days, the Caps had multiple defenseman score 10-20 goals.
Remember The Alomar
12-09-2011, 09:44 PM
Really nice to see them scoring on the power play tonight.
Remember The Alomar
12-09-2011, 10:28 PM
Looks like Hunter wants to build a team like they had in the 80's, which had 4 offensive defensemen they through out all the time, and then 2 guys that were defensive stoppers they would use when they had to. Looks like the 2 defensive guys are Alzner and Erskine, and Hamrlik and Schultz are in the doghouse. If Green is back that gives you Green, Wideman, Orlov and Carlson...which does kinda remind me of the Hatcher, Iafrate, Johansson, Cote group.
If anyone wasn't around in those days, the Caps had multiple defenseman score 10-20 goals.
Dennis Wideman thinks you're right!
allstar1579
12-10-2011, 12:54 AM
Dennis Wideman thinks you're right!
;) I know my hockey. Now he's going to start shaping the roster to get the guys he wants for certain roles. Interesting note, Hunter was the 3rd/4th line C. Ridley and Pivonka played above him, and Hunter would still put up 20-30 goals a year. I think you might see him go get a bruising, physical scoring C for that role and move Laich back to LW.
Time will tell, but Semin getting another lazy stick penalty tonight can't help his chances. Problem is, his value is down big time right now. They should have traded him in the offseason. Maybe they can talk Calgary into a bad season for bad season swap for Iginla or something.
DuffMan
12-13-2011, 09:10 AM
;) I know my hockey. Now he's going to start shaping the roster to get the guys he wants for certain roles. Interesting note, Hunter was the 3rd/4th line C. Ridley and Pivonka played above him, and Hunter would still put up 20-30 goals a year. I think you might see him go get a bruising, physical scoring C for that role and move Laich back to LW.
Time will tell, but Semin getting another lazy stick penalty tonight can't help his chances. Problem is, his value is down big time right now. They should have traded him in the offseason. Maybe they can talk Calgary into a bad season for bad season swap for Iginla or something.
Where do you think Laich is better though at LW or C? I think he's done a great job as a C and has been improving in the faceoff dot as well, I guess it will depend on how the roster shakes out.
I do feel like Semin's days are numbered, Hunter even brought back the SOB line on Saturday night and he still had a subpar game. His value is certainly down now, but at this point I almost feel like it may be addition by subtraction with Sasha. Take what you can get and move on. Speaking of the SOB line, Sasha's linemates had a solid game on Fridday as well. That was the 2nd great game from Ovie and I really hope that he's getting out of his funk and starting to play like the old Ovie. Backstrom continues to put up the points and prove that last year was just an "off/down" year for him.
I don't expect 4 PP goals a night, but it would nice to get the team closer to 20% effective going forward.
They have Philly tonight and they've had 3 days to get ready for this game, I'm expecting (hoping) a solid effort.
Here's one more thought I want to add and I don't like reading about it, From JapersRink recap from Fridays game. http://www.japersrink.com/2011/12/9/2624793/recap-capitals-4-maple-leafs-2
Something I need to get off my chest: For the second straight game Vokoun visibly berated a defender following a goal against. Last game it was John Erskine after a bad giveaway ended up in the net. Tonight Vokoun got after Karl Alzner after the second Maple Leaf goal. While Alzner no doubt wants that play back, and he needs to come up with the block if he's going to get in the shooting lane, Vokoun's response was entirely uncalled for. Alzner leads the team in plus/minus while taking on the hardest competition and toughest zone starts. The guy is flat out getting it done, and a little patience/forgiveness is warranted. Vokoun needs to look in the mirror and ask if he can say the same. He's been turning in far too many 40 degree days this season, and we'd like to see him think a bit before he shows up a teammate next time. A man must have a code. What's Vokoun's?
Maybe someone should give Vokoun an earfull the next time he lets in a softie.
allstar1579
12-13-2011, 09:31 AM
Where do you think Laich is better though at LW or C? I think he's done a great job as a C and has been improving in the faceoff dot as well, I guess it will depend on how the roster shakes out.
I do feel like Semin's days are numbered, Hunter even brought back the SOB line on Saturday night and he still had a subpar game. His value is certainly down now, but at this point I almost feel like it may be addition by subtraction with Sasha. Take what you can get and move on. Speaking of the SOB line, Sasha's linemates had a solid game on Fridday as well. That was the 2nd great game from Ovie and I really hope that he's getting out of his funk and starting to play like the old Ovie. Backstrom continues to put up the points and prove that last year was just an "off/down" year for him.
I don't expect 4 PP goals a night, but it would nice to get the team closer to 20% effective going forward.
They have Philly tonight and they've had 3 days to get ready for this game, I'm expecting (hoping) a solid effort.
Here's one more thought I want to add and I don't like reading about it, From JapersRink recap from Fridays game. http://www.japersrink.com/2011/12/9/2624793/recap-capitals-4-maple-leafs-2
Maybe someone should give Vokoun an earfull the next time he lets in a softie.
I think Laich plays just as well at either really, he works hard no matter where he's playing, but he's not the playmaker you ideally want for a C you are counting on offense from. When we came up with the 3rd line they were supposed to be a grinding, energy shutdown defense line, so it's not a big deal if they chipped in goals.Then they became our most consistent offense too, which isn't good.
Ideally you'd like a physical scoring C for that line, or go find a big time scoring RW to go on either the top or 2nd line and leave Laich at C. They have flexible pieces so they can do a number of different things. Philly is always a tough physical matchup, so they better be on their game tonight.
Vokoun is turning out to be everything I expected, and as soon as he signed a below market deal here and started talking about all the money he left on the table like he wanted a pat on the back I knew we were in trouble. He's got a rep for giving up soft goals, and having an attitude problem. If I'm the Caps I'm checking around to see what I can get for him, and if I could make a swap for another goalie. Luongo would cost too much, that would have to be more of a Semin type move but I think it's another addition by subtraction problem, and the chemistry is all screwed up on this team right now.
McNulty
12-13-2011, 10:03 PM
What happened to this team? When I saw them in Philly earlier this year, they looked REALLY really good.
allstar1579
12-13-2011, 10:58 PM
What happened to this team? When I saw them in Philly earlier this year, they looked REALLY really good.
Chemistry. Some players do not like some other players.
erb8472
12-14-2011, 12:06 AM
1 Step Forward. 2 Steps Back.
Dr. FLK
12-14-2011, 10:13 AM
Chemistry. Some players do not like some other players.
Any more insight into which players don't get along? Are these problems that have gotten worse as the season has progressed?
allstar1579
12-14-2011, 10:19 AM
Any more insight into which players don't get along? Are these problems that have gotten worse as the season has progressed?
Vokoun is the biggest problem. He went after Alzner the other night after Alzner laid down to try to block a shot and a guy got around him and scored. I mean, lets not go after the guy with the best +/- on the team, lets look at the guy that gives up 2-3 soft goals EVERY game.
I also didn't hear anyone besides Ovi stand up for Semin when he got benched...just sayin'.
They need to make some moves and clear out some garbage. Vokoun being first on that list. I'd like to think if they packaged Vokoun and Semin they could get something really nice in return. Maybe not Nash and Mason (CLB) but maybe Nash and a throw in. He'd fit in GREAT here.
DuffMan
12-14-2011, 03:04 PM
Vokoun is the biggest problem. He went after Alzner the other night after Alzner laid down to try to block a shot and a guy got around him and scored. I mean, lets not go after the guy with the best +/- on the team, lets look at the guy that gives up 2-3 soft goals EVERY game.
I also didn't hear anyone besides Ovi stand up for Semin when he got benched...just sayin'.
They need to make some moves and clear out some garbage. Vokoun being first on that list. I'd like to think if they packaged Vokoun and Semin they could get something really nice in return. Maybe not Nash and Mason (CLB) but maybe Nash and a throw in. He'd fit in GREAT here.
Not to mention Alzner and Carlson have constantly been tasked with shutting down the opposing teams top line and more often than not they've gotten the job done so Vokoun needs to keep his trap shut. Only caught some of last nights game, but it looks like Vokoun let in a couple of softies. I wouldn't even care if they just up and released him, its not like he's that big of a cap hit, but if we could pull off your Vokoun/Semin for Nash deal I would be all over that.
allstar1579
12-15-2011, 01:51 PM
Not to mention Alzner and Carlson have constantly been tasked with shutting down the opposing teams top line and more often than not they've gotten the job done so Vokoun needs to keep his trap shut. Only caught some of last nights game, but it looks like Vokoun let in a couple of softies. I wouldn't even care if they just up and released him, its not like he's that big of a cap hit, but if we could pull off your Vokoun/Semin for Nash deal I would be all over that.
Another contender, or a cash strapped team should be all over Vokoun, and I have a feeling the only reason it hasn't happened yet is because Neuvy and Holtby haven't looked super strong this season. I think that is a bi-product of them thinking they were an NHL starting tandem and all of a sudden they bring in this d-bag.
Trade 'koun and Semin. Bring in some more high-energy, physical scoring a la Nash, or Igninla (well at least physical scoring in his case). Go for the rental with Parise, or my suggestion would be to go get Staal from CAR. He's having a down year, and would fit in anywhere from the first to 3rd line, adding leadership and scoring could be the guy to make it all happen. It'd take more than those two trade chips to get him, but CAR will be in a different division next year, and I could see them making that move. Semin for Parise would be a good FA for FA swap, but I think they want controllable talent. Schultz could help make either of those two deals happen though, young, affordable and solid on D.
I'd deal 'koun and Semin both out west to a contender and see what we can get back. If CBS thinks they might be able to contend they MIGHT be willing to make that swap if we threw someone young in too. (I don't think they can contend this year, but I would also kick the tires on Jeff Carter while I'm there)
DuffMan
12-15-2011, 03:38 PM
Another contender, or a cash strapped team should be all over Vokoun, and I have a feeling the only reason it hasn't happened yet is because Neuvy and Holtby haven't looked super strong this season. I think that is a bi-product of them thinking they were an NHL starting tandem and all of a sudden they bring in this d-bag.
Trade 'koun and Semin. Bring in some more high-energy, physical scoring a la Nash, or Igninla (well at least physical scoring in his case). Go for the rental with Parise, or my suggestion would be to go get Staal from CAR. He's having a down year, and would fit in anywhere from the first to 3rd line, adding leadership and scoring could be the guy to make it all happen. It'd take more than those two trade chips to get him, but CAR will be in a different division next year, and I could see them making that move. Semin for Parise would be a good FA for FA swap, but I think they want controllable talent. Schultz could help make either of those two deals happen though, young, affordable and solid on D.
I'd deal 'koun and Semin both out west to a contender and see what we can get back. If CBS thinks they might be able to contend they MIGHT be willing to make that swap if we threw someone young in too. (I don't think they can contend this year, but I would also kick the tires on Jeff Carter while I'm there)
Yeah Neuvy's been bad (interestingly enough Varly has been struggling for the Avalanche as well) and so has Holtby although looking at his numbers for December it looks like he's starting to get it again. I agree that there could be some confidence issues after they brought in Vokoun. The sooner they can trade him the better, Sasha too.
I like the idea of trading Sarge as well, Hunter continues to healthy scratch him, so if he isn't going to play him they might as well move him. Definitely like the idea of Nash, Iginla would be an interesting player as well the only concern from me is that he's owed another 7 million next year. Also Calgary seems to have rebounded from their slow start so I'm not sure if they would want to move him. Staal would be a great pickup as well, I would like seeing him as the 3rd line center with Brooks back out on the wing, I feel like those two would work really well together.
Remember The Alomar
12-15-2011, 10:48 PM
Sorry for jinxing the team, guys.
allstar1579
12-15-2011, 11:26 PM
Sorry for jinxing the team, guys.
It's ok. I knew we'd have a stretch like this at some point. Just no way you can anticipate the chemistry issues. Apparently it started after the first couple losses when BB went with Neuvy for more than 1 game (he always plays the hot hand) Vokoun lost his ish about it and stormed out of practice, that's when the fracture started. The team sees him as more of a mercenary, and he does NOT get along with the young clique in place. (Green, Carlson, Alzner, Eakin, Backstrom, Ovie, Brooks)
Remember The Alomar
12-15-2011, 11:35 PM
It's ok. I knew we'd have a stretch like this at some point. Just no way you can anticipate the chemistry issues. Apparently it started after the first couple losses when BB went with Neuvy for more than 1 game (he always plays the hot hand) Vokoun lost his ish about it and stormed out of practice, that's when the fracture started. The team sees him as more of a mercenary, and he does NOT get along with the young clique in place. (Green, Carlson, Alzner, Eakin, Backstrom, Ovie, Brooks)
Eeeshh. That's no good.
Do you think Ovechkin will ever be good again?
allstar1579
12-15-2011, 11:39 PM
Eeeshh. That's no good.
Do you think Ovechkin will ever be good again?
Yeah. I've seen flashes of it the last couple games, but he's settled into making the same moves and taking the same shots every game. Teams learned how to play him. He's gotta change it up and WANT to score.
Remember The Alomar
12-15-2011, 11:41 PM
Yeah. I've seen flashes of it the last couple games, but he's settled into making the same moves and taking the same shots every game. Teams learned how to play him. He's gotta change it up and WANT to score.
Is it just a matter of work ethic and desire? I don't know that much about hockey, but is there any chance it's a physical decline?
allstar1579
12-15-2011, 11:46 PM
Is it just a matter of work ethic and desire? I don't know that much about hockey, but is there any chance it's a physical decline?
I don't think so, Hockey is a weird sport when it comes to that. Guys can play into their 40's and still be effective, even though it's so physical. I think he just got set in his ways as far as his style, he's only got like 3 moves, and everyone knows them. You just don't see him getting loose anymore, someone is shadowing him every shift, until they get a RW that can really clear the net, or be a scoring threat on his own (Semin is too "cutesy" to do the hard work they need there), he's going to be too covered.
I think he's not trying as hard as he did a couple years ago.
Remember The Alomar
12-15-2011, 11:51 PM
Yeah. I've seen flashes of it the last couple games, but he's settled into making the same moves and taking the same shots every game. Teams learned how to play him. He's gotta change it up and WANT to score.
You're pretty good at this hockey thing.
Remember The Alomar
12-15-2011, 11:53 PM
Also I totally get credit for the reverse jinx.
allstar1579
12-15-2011, 11:58 PM
You're pretty good at this hockey thing.
Haha, thanks. My grandfather had a luxury suite when I was growing up at the old Capital Center, so I used to go to like 20 games a year. My best friend and another good friend of ours were both pro hockey players, and I lived with the Hockey Team at Maryland when I went there. In our season ticket section there are a bunch of hardcore hockey fans, and every game I go to the whole game people are leaning over, what's wrong with this guy, whats up with this guy, what do you think about these guys the whole game. My wife thinks it's funny.
allstar1579
12-15-2011, 11:58 PM
Also I totally get credit for the reverse jinx.
Yes you do, but I'm taking credit for saying Neuvy needs to be playing ;)
Remember The Alomar
12-16-2011, 12:05 AM
Haha, thanks. My grandfather had a luxury suite when I was growing up at the old Capital Center, so I used to go to like 20 games a year. My best friend and another good friend of ours were both pro hockey players, and I lived with the Hockey Team at Maryland when I went there. In our season ticket section there are a bunch of hardcore hockey fans, and every game I go to the whole game people are leaning over, what's wrong with this guy, whats up with this guy, what do you think about these guys the whole game. My wife thinks it's funny.
That's awesome. I'm really growing to love the game--with the semester over I'm hoping I'll be able to watch a lot more.
Yes you do, but I'm taking credit for saying Neuvy needs to be playing ;)
Ha, he looked very good tonight. More of that, please.
DuffMan
12-16-2011, 11:04 AM
Yes you do, but I'm taking credit for saying Neuvy needs to be playing ;)
Neuvirth was money last night. Kept them in the game as the Jets came out strong with 14 shots on goal in the 1st period. Apparently Winnipeg is 2nd in the league in 1st period goals so kudos to Neuvy for keeping the Caps in the game, with a big assist from Wideman with a nice save as well. Hunter better have Neuvirth back in goal Saturday against Colarado. (Hopefully we get to see a Neuvirth vs Varlamov matchup!)
Nice to see Ovechkin get the GWG after the crowd was on him all night whenever he touched the puck, and that drop pass from MOJO was awesome!
Nice to see Ovie get
allstar1579
12-16-2011, 11:14 AM
Neuvirth was money last night. Kept them in the game as the Jets came out strong with 14 shots on goal in the 1st period. Apparently Winnipeg is 2nd in the league in 1st period goals so kudos to Neuvy for keeping the Caps in the game, with a big assist from Wideman with a nice save as well. Hunter better have Neuvirth back in goal Saturday against Colarado. (Hopefully we get to see a Neuvirth vs Varlamov matchup!)
Nice to see Ovechkin get the GWG after the crowd was on him all night whenever he touched the puck, and that drop pass from MOJO was awesome!
Nice to see Ovie get
I was just saying the other night that MoJo's passing has really kicked up a notch. He is always just barely getting his stick on something out of his reach and flipping something through the legs, or behind the back and putting it right on the tape. He'd have a lot more assists if the players getting the pass weren't surprised by it most of the time.
I'm hoping Dale rewards him for a stellar start and he doesn't just outright see Vokoun as the starter. I guess we'll find out, but I'm about over this Vokoun experiment.
MikeAD
12-16-2011, 01:08 PM
We should swap the O's roster for the Caps and see if anything changes.
DuffMan
12-17-2011, 06:58 PM
Neuvy gets the nod again tonight! Glad to hear it, lets hope he can turn in another solid performance and keep Vokoun on the bench.
Remember The Alomar
12-17-2011, 10:12 PM
What the **** was that?
allstar1579
12-18-2011, 12:44 AM
What the **** was that?
Another solid performance by Neuvy, but some serious lack of offense.
Remember The Alomar
12-18-2011, 01:02 AM
Another solid performance by Neuvy, but some serious lack of offense.
That first goal he allowed was terrible. I could easily be missing something though.
allstar1579
12-18-2011, 01:05 AM
That first goal he allowed was terrible. I could easily be missing something though.
Yeah, he lost it in the crowd. Kinda the equivalent of losing a ball in the sun. On high shots that knuckle like that one did if they stay high enough that you can't see them against the boards in the background, they get stealth-like. You just kinda get where you think it's going to be and hope it hits you. On those 98% of them are too high to get near the net, but ONCE in a while you'll see them knuckle like that one did and loop into the top corner. It was still kinda a bad goal, but it's an understandable one at least. I'll take that over Vokoun getting beat 5-hole (through the legs) because he's too lazy to get down soon enough.
He didn't buckle and allow 4 goals after that though, he kept us in it up til the end, and on that 2nd goal I'm pretty sure it deflected off our own guy and in, you can't blame the goalies for those. I'll take 2 goals a game ALL year, please and thank you.
Remember The Alomar
12-18-2011, 01:15 AM
Yeah, he lost it in the crowd. Kinda the equivalent of losing a ball in the sun. On high shots that knuckle like that one did if they stay high enough that you can't see them against the boards in the background, they get stealth-like. You just kinda get where you think it's going to be and hope it hits you. On those 98% of them are too high to get near the net, but ONCE in a while you'll see them knuckle like that one did and loop into the top corner. It was still kinda a bad goal, but it's an understandable one at least. I'll take that over Vokoun getting beat 5-hole (through the legs) because he's too lazy to get down soon enough.
He didn't buckle and allow 4 goals after that though, he kept us in it up til the end, and on that 2nd goal I'm pretty sure it deflected off our own guy and in, you can't blame the goalies for those. I'll take 2 goals a game ALL year, please and thank you.
That's a much more rationale way to look at it. You convinced me.
Disappointing how the offense seems only to come in spurts, though.
allstar1579
12-18-2011, 01:17 AM
That's a much more rationale way to look at it. You convinced me.
Disappointing how the offense seems only to come in spurts, though.
Yeah the offense is driving me nuts. That's why I think a big trade and a little one or two is what this team needs right now. Staal would be the perfect piece if we didn't have to give up the whole farm.
Remember The Alomar
12-18-2011, 01:19 AM
Yeah the offense is driving me nuts. That's why I think a big trade and a little one or two is what this team needs right now. Staal would be the perfect piece if we didn't have to give up the whole farm.
You really think the Penguins would trade him to the Caps?
allstar1579
12-18-2011, 09:55 AM
You really think the Penguins would trade him to the Caps?
Eric Staal, from CAR, not Jordan.
Remember The Alomar
12-18-2011, 02:43 PM
Eric Staal, from CAR, not Jordan.
Ah. Oops.
WietersOvechkin
12-18-2011, 06:49 PM
Eric Staal, from CAR, not Jordan.
What about trading for Paul Stastny? I think something could happen for him more then Staal.
allstar1579
12-18-2011, 07:19 PM
What about trading for Paul Stastny? I think something could happen for him more then Staal.
I like Stastny, but I think he's more of a cutesy European-style guy, we already have Backstrom and MJ90 for that, we need a big physical C that can score I think.
DuffMan
12-21-2011, 07:48 AM
I was just saying the other night that MoJo's passing has really kicked up a notch. He is always just barely getting his stick on something out of his reach and flipping something through the legs, or behind the back and putting it right on the tape. He'd have a lot more assists if the players getting the pass weren't surprised by it most of the time.
Well MoJo had another nice drop pass last night that set up a sick goal from Sasha in the top right corner of the night. Of course Semin was partially to blame for Nashville's goal earlier so it was nice to see him make up for it.
Solid game all around for the team against a Nashville squad that's been playing well. Neuvirth gets another start and turns in a solid performance, he had some really big saves in the 3rd before the Caps broke it open. Caps don't play again until Friday so I hope Hunter sends him back out there again.
Schultz finally gets a sweater and is rewarded with a whopping 6 minutes of ice time. Did Sarge run over Dale's dog or something???
allstar1579
12-21-2011, 10:33 AM
Well MoJo had another nice drop pass last night that set up a sick goal from Sasha in the top right corner of the night. Of course Semin was partially to blame for Nashville's goal earlier so it was nice to see him make up for it.
Solid game all around for the team against a Nashville squad that's been playing well. Neuvirth gets another start and turns in a solid performance, he had some really big saves in the 3rd before the Caps broke it open. Caps don't play again until Friday so I hope Hunter sends him back out there again.
Schultz finally gets a sweater and is rewarded with a whopping 6 minutes of ice time. Did Sarge run over Dale's dog or something???
It's like I said, Hunter's system is built for offensive defenseman, guys that are defense only are a liability for him, they will just be played when he feels like he needs a stop or someone physical. He's got Alzner and Carlson that play all the shutdown matchups anyway. That's why I said I think they will trade him if they can, he's just a redundancy here.
Neuvy should be left in there to be the guy. He's playing like one, and with all the whining Vokoun did, I'm over him. I said day one, it's an ok move if he was brought in to be a veteran backup, I don't like him as the starter. He's too much of a headcase.
DuffMan
12-22-2011, 10:20 AM
It's like I said, Hunter's system is built for offensive defenseman, guys that are defense only are a liability for him, they will just be played when he feels like he needs a stop or someone physical. He's got Alzner and Carlson that play all the shutdown matchups anyway. That's why I said I think they will trade him if they can, he's just a redundancy here.
Going with more offensive defenseman is fine by me (Mike Green where are you!?!?), and if that's the route they are going that makes trading someone like Semin less of a loss with the increased production from our DMen. I'm not saying they will put up as many goals, but they would help make up for some of those points lost in addition to whoever we get for Sasha. Maybe we could package Semin and Schultz together?? That could/should net us a decent return.
allstar1579
12-22-2011, 11:00 AM
Going with more offensive defenseman is fine by me (Mike Green where are you!?!?), and if that's the route they are going that makes trading someone like Semin less of a loss with the increased production from our DMen. I'm not saying they will put up as many goals, but they would help make up for some of those points lost in addition to whoever we get for Sasha. Maybe we could package Semin and Schultz together?? That could/should net us a decent return.
Yeah, it's kinda like in basketball, just the difference between your offense being focused from big guys down low, or from out at the point. Just depends on how your team is built, if you have people better at crashing the net and getting tips and rebounds, or if you have a team that's better controlling the puck and creating. We are about 50/50 right now I think.
I would like to package them, I'd think the 2 of them, plus a prospect and a pick should get us just about anyone, but it depends on the team since Sasha is a FA at the end of the year. Maybe he and Vokoun are packaged better in return to a contending team, and Schultz, Eakin and a 1st rounder get us someone from a bad team looking to build, like Columbus.
I'd expect a busy trade deadline for us. My money says GMGM is working on something already because it's clear something needs to change.
DuffMan
12-23-2011, 09:32 AM
Probable line combos for tonight
Marcus Johansson – Nicklas Backstrom – Alexander Semin
Alex Ovechkin – Brooks Laich – Troy Brouwer
Jason Chimera – Jeff Halpern – Joel Ward
Matt Hendricks – Mathieu Perreault – Mike Knuble
Dale used these a little bit on Tuesday and had some success with them so he's going to give them another whirl.
EDIT: And Neuvy gets another start in goal!
allstar1579
12-23-2011, 12:11 PM
Probable line combos for tonight
Marcus Johansson – Nicklas Backstrom – Alexander Semin
Alex Ovechkin – Brooks Laich – Troy Brouwer
Jason Chimera – Jeff Halpern – Joel Ward
Matt Hendricks – Mathieu Perreault – Mike Knuble
Dale used these a little bit on Tuesday and had some success with them so he's going to give them another whirl.
EDIT: And Neuvy gets another start in goal!
Dale has said he's a game to game guy with lineups. He wants to match the other team in certain ways, so I'm a little bit surprised he's going with the same group, but it doesn't matter too much, I think he's looking for chemistry.
Glad to see he's sticking with Neuvy, now if they can just trade Vokoun so he will stop whining and pouting behind the scenes (and he is).
Bosibus
12-26-2011, 11:07 PM
They are horrible.
Dr. FLK
12-28-2011, 09:00 AM
I'm a little surprised they still haven't made any big roster moves. This team appears lifeless most of the time. It really is hard to believe this is the same team that was so hot out of the gates.
allstar1579
12-28-2011, 12:58 PM
Bad week to have tickets to both games. I was hoping they would have made a trade or 3 by now, but I guess they are assuming players are just going to work themselves out. Neuvy obviously needed a game off the other night, he got shelled, and I'm afraid if Vokoun doesn't get rocked tonight, we'll be back to more of the same. 'koun should start tonight and Neuvy should be back Friday. That's how I'd do it, and then if he gets rocked a couple straight games, then I think about making a change.
Bosibus
12-28-2011, 01:21 PM
Bad week to have tickets to both games. I was hoping they would have made a trade or 3 by now, but I guess they are assuming players are just going to work themselves out. Neuvy obviously needed a game off the other night, he got shelled, and I'm afraid if Vokoun doesn't get rocked tonight, we'll be back to more of the same. 'koun should start tonight and Neuvy should be back Friday. That's how I'd do it, and then if he gets rocked a couple straight games, then I think about making a change.
I am going tonight, thinking about hitting up RFD, where do you usually go before, if at all?
allstar1579
12-28-2011, 04:24 PM
I am going tonight, thinking about hitting up RFD, where do you usually go before, if at all?
If I'm down there early enough I usually just hit up Clydes for some dinner and a beer before the game, but then I learned California Tortilla has $3 beers, so that's a much more cost effective idea. I'm not actually going to go tonight I don't think. One of the wife's best friends is from NY and likes to see the Rangers games (and I hate Vokoun anyway) so I think I'm going to send the two of them, and then I'll take one of my friends to see Buffalo. I've been saving my games all season so far so I'll be going a lot more soon.
The Rick
12-29-2011, 12:56 AM
If I'm down there early enough I usually just hit up Clydes for some dinner and a beer before the game, but then I learned California Tortilla has $3 beers, so that's a much more cost effective idea. I'm not actually going to go tonight I don't think. One of the wife's best friends is from NY and likes to see the Rangers games (and I hate Vokoun anyway) so I think I'm going to send the two of them, and then I'll take one of my friends to see Buffalo. I've been saving my games all season so far so I'll be going a lot more soon.
Well, as far as decisions go... You win some, you lose some. ;)
Hell of a game tonight.
Mashed Potatoes
12-29-2011, 02:38 AM
Caps are 2-0 with me at the games this year. Loved seeing that old power line of Ovi/Backstrom/Semin. A friend gave me club level tickets (235 bucks a pop) and free food and booze prior to the game. Now thats the way to do it!
Only negative from the evening was they never played Unleash the Fury.
allstar1579
12-29-2011, 02:40 AM
Well, as far as decisions go... You win some, you lose some. ;)
Hell of a game tonight.
Tell me about it. My idiot wife goes out after the game for a bit, gets on the wrong train coming home, misses the last train coming the right direction and has to take a cab home. I'm still not talking to her...SMH.
Sounds like I overreacted last night a bit. It was a $40 cab ride, so maybe not. So I give her the tickets, she gets to see a win, goes out to dinner before game, out again after game, and on top of all that money then I have to pay for her cab when she finally gets home. I feel like I'm raising two toddlers and a teenager.
DuffMan
12-29-2011, 11:02 AM
More games like last night please! Much better effort although the Caps did have some issues getting the puck out of their zone and they also missed on a couple of primo scoring opportunities, I'm looking at you Brouwer (how in the world did you miss on that pp chance!?!) and Halpern but all in all a good night against a Rangers team that has been playing well. Getting some consistency sure would be nice. Time to pay back Buffalo tomorrow night. Curious to see who will be in goal...
allstar1579
12-31-2011, 12:02 AM
Well, as far as decisions go... You win some, you lose some. ;)
Hell of a game tonight.
HA! They won for me too! And I didn't get lost on the metro (after going to her like 30th game).
Vokoun didn't look NEARLY as impressive as his stats may seem. The shots were hitting him, he wasn't stopping the shots. He kept falling down in the right place at the right time and people fired into him. He made MAYBE 3-4 real saves all night, and was beat at least 5 or 6 times, but people missed the net. Lot of luck for that guy tonight.
Remember The Alomar
12-31-2011, 12:02 AM
Oh, so that's why everyone has Ovechkin shirts.
allstar1579
12-31-2011, 12:22 PM
Oh, so that's why everyone has Ovechkin shirts.
His first goal was dumb luck, he was trying to pass to Laich in the slot, the defenseman tipped it and it floated over Miller's arm. The second one was a good set-up from Nicky and Alex just bombed it past Miller faster than he could react.
Remember The Alomar
01-01-2012, 12:24 AM
Oh, so that's why everyone has Ovechkin shirts.
allstar1579
01-01-2012, 07:14 PM
Oh, so that's why everyone has Ovechkin shirts.
Haha, yeah, those two were more appropriate. He's getting back to himself lately.
Tony-OH
01-03-2012, 10:55 AM
I'm taking my oldest son to his first Caps game tonight. I haven't seen a live NHL game since I saw the Caps back in 1990 so I'm looking forward to it although I'm not looking forward to the metro down there during the week.
napbow
01-03-2012, 11:41 AM
I'm taking my oldest son to his first Caps game tonight. I haven't seen a live NHL game since I saw the Caps back in 1990 so I'm looking forward to it although I'm not looking forward to the metro down there during the week.
You are going to have a great time as long as the game is close. The crowd really gets into the games and it is definitely kid friendly.
Just make sure the two of you wear red.
allstar1579
01-03-2012, 12:37 PM
I'm taking my oldest son to his first Caps game tonight. I haven't seen a live NHL game since I saw the Caps back in 1990 so I'm looking forward to it although I'm not looking forward to the metro down there during the week.
Aw man, I can't go tonight, the inlaws will be there though. Good game to go to, Mike Green is making his return tonight. Depends where you are taking the metro from, if you go to college park or Greenbelt and take the green line it's not too bad, just stay away from the Red line at all costs.
DuffMan
01-05-2012, 08:37 AM
Fingers crossed that Backstrom is ok after taking that elbow to the head on Tuesday night (Bourque got a 5 game suspension for the hit). The Caps are starting to play better and Backstrom has been solid all year so it would definitely sting if the Caps lost him now. They are off until Saturday night when they play in the Shark Tank so hopefully he will be good to go.
allstar1579
01-05-2012, 12:07 PM
Fingers crossed that Backstrom is ok after taking that elbow to the head on Tuesday night (Bourque got a 5 game suspension for the hit). The Caps are starting to play better and Backstrom has been solid all year so it would definitely sting if the Caps lost him now. They are off until Saturday night when they play in the Shark Tank so hopefully he will be good to go.
He's practicing today, that's a good sign. Especially since he just climbed up to like 7th in the NHL in scoring this week.
DuffMan
01-09-2012, 10:37 AM
He's practicing today, that's a good sign. Especially since he just climbed up to like 7th in the NHL in scoring this week.
And Backstrom missed the San Jose game. The Caps lost this game, but that's no surprise I can't even remember the last time they won a game in San Jose. Even more troubling was the fact that Backs missed practice yesterday at well, really hoping this isn't something too major but with a blow to the head you never know. In other news Green only made it through half of the game before possibly tweaking his groin again. Losing Green again would stink but the Caps have learned to adapt to playing with out him, but they can ill afford to lose Backstrom for an extended period of time.
allstar1579
01-09-2012, 03:20 PM
And Backstrom missed the San Jose game. The Caps lost this game, but that's no surprise I can't even remember the last time they won a game in San Jose. Even more troubling was the fact that Backs missed practice yesterday at well, really hoping this isn't something too major but with a blow to the head you never know. In other news Green only made it through half of the game before possibly tweaking his groin again. Losing Green again would stink but the Caps have learned to adapt to playing with out him, but they can ill afford to lose Backstrom for an extended period of time.
I don't think Nicky is that bad off, just giving him a break to play it safe, they only had the one game I think and then nothing until back home against the PENS, much smarter to give him 3-4 days off to rest and then see where he's at. If he doesn't practice tomorrow I'd say he's out through the rest of the week.
Green is more depressing because hurting it again like that after supposedly taking the extra time to heal almost guarantees he's out for the season. Probably just enough hope to keep him off of LTIR and his cap hit on the books.
DuffMan
01-10-2012, 09:14 AM
I don't think Nicky is that bad off, just giving him a break to play it safe, they only had the one game I think and then nothing until back home against the PENS, much smarter to give him 3-4 days off to rest and then see where he's at. If he doesn't practice tomorrow I'd say he's out through the rest of the week.
Green is more depressing because hurting it again like that after supposedly taking the extra time to heal almost guarantees he's out for the season. Probably just enough hope to keep him off of LTIR and his cap hit on the books.
Well they had the LA game last night too (before coming home for Pittsburgh), and surprise surprise another loss. This team is allergic to winning in California!
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/capitals-insider/post/capitals-send-nicklas-backstrom-and-mike-green-home-to-washington/2012/01/09/gIQADInxlP_blog.html
McPhee had Green and Backstrom fly home before they even played this game. I hope you are right and they are just being Cautious with Backstrom. I agree with you that it looks like Green could be done for the year, but we can ill afford to lose Backstrom. Would really help to have him back for the Pens game tomorrow night, but if he did have a concussion I don't blame them for being overly cautious.
allstar1579
01-10-2012, 09:47 AM
Well they had the LA game last night too (before coming home for Pittsburgh), and surprise surprise another loss. This team is allergic to winning in California!
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/capitals-insider/post/capitals-send-nicklas-backstrom-and-mike-green-home-to-washington/2012/01/09/gIQADInxlP_blog.html
McPhee had Green and Backstrom fly home before they even played this game. I hope you are right and they are just being Cautious with Backstrom. I agree with you that it looks like Green could be done for the year, but we can ill afford to lose Backstrom. Would really help to have him back for the Pens game tomorrow night, but if he did have a concussion I don't blame them for being overly cautious.
Yeah I meant one game after the one they missed. It was a spread out stretch and those are the best times to have a player miss a game or two because they'll get 7-10 days of rest and only miss 2 games.
Crossing my fingers, but they need to figure something out soon. Trade time...
Dr. FLK
01-10-2012, 05:10 PM
When are they going to make any moves to try and right the ship? If they wait much longer, this team may be hopeless...
allstar1579
01-10-2012, 06:52 PM
When are they going to make any moves to try and right the ship? If they wait much longer, this team may be hopeless...
That's what has me worried. They are playing well at home, but their stats GA, GS are reversed on the road. I still think that Nash or E. Staal are the answer, but that's just me.
WietersOvechkin
01-10-2012, 11:30 PM
That's what has me worried. They are playing well at home, but their stats GA, GS are reversed on the road. I still think that Nash or E. Staal are the answer, but that's just me.
I can't see Nash as a fit. He is a winger and we are clearly in need of another C. I do agree that E Staal would be a great guy to target but fitting him under the salary cap will be a little difficult. I suppose moving Green to the LTIR might help and probably trading Schultz would also help part of that problem and the obvious answer would be to trade Semin but I am not sure how much the canes would value him.
Perhaps something like Eakin/1st round pick (ours)/3rd round pick and Schultz for Staal would work assuming green went to LTIR.
I do agree something needs to change or this team will have issues in the playoffs again.
allstar1579
01-10-2012, 11:40 PM
I can't see Nash as a fit. He is a winger and we are clearly in need of another C. I do agree that E Staal would be a great guy to target but fitting him under the salary cap will be a little difficult. I suppose moving Green to the LTIR might help and probably trading Schultz would also help part of that problem and the obvious answer would be to trade Semin but I am not sure how much the canes would value him.
Perhaps something like Eakin/1st round pick (ours)/3rd round pick and Schultz for Staal would work assuming green went to LTIR.
I do agree something needs to change or this team will have issues in the playoffs again.
Nash on the right side of Ovi and Nick would make that top line pretty untouchable. The problem is that like you said trading Semin is the more workable way to make that happen, and without him in the deal it's just more we'd have to give up for him or Staal. With the realignment scrapped I think that kills the Staal deal though, no way they want to play him in division all year next year. Nash will cost a ton, but say if we could swap Semin for a C somewhere (a contender with an underperforming C would make sense), or maybe we could find a way to steal Getzlaf from ANA. I feel like some guys would have extra value to them with BB being there (Schultz especially).
WietersOvechkin
01-10-2012, 11:58 PM
Nash on the right side of Ovi and Nick would make that top line pretty untouchable. The problem is that like you said trading Semin is the more workable way to make that happen, and without him in the deal it's just more we'd have to give up for him or Staal. With the realignment scrapped I think that kills the Staal deal though, no way they want to play him in division all year next year. Nash will cost a ton, but say if we could swap Semin for a C somewhere (a contender with an underperforming C would make sense), or maybe we could find a way to steal Getzlaf from ANA. I feel like some guys would have extra value to them with BB being there (Schultz especially).
I would love to get Getzlaf but he'll end up costing as an arm and a leg to acquire but it would be kinda cool to bring him in since he was taken the pick after Eric Fehr.
It's a shame Jeff Carter got hurt again because he pretty much fits all the criteria we want. He's on a bad team that might be going in a different direction, he plays center, his contract isn't as difficult to fit under the cap (5.2M). I think I also read somewhere that GMGM was at the Ducks Blue Jackets game the other night (same night Carter got hurt).
In other news the caps recalled Tomas Kundratek (dman) when we currently have 7 healthy bodies (Wideman, Hamrlik, Carlson, Alzner, Erskine, Orlov and Schultz) not to mention Mike Green who clearly isn't healthy. Maybe Schultz is getting moved soon?
allstar1579
01-11-2012, 10:51 AM
I would love to get Getzlaf but he'll end up costing as an arm and a leg to acquire but it would be kinda cool to bring him in since he was taken the pick after Eric Fehr.
It's a shame Jeff Carter got hurt again because he pretty much fits all the criteria we want. He's on a bad team that might be going in a different direction, he plays center, his contract isn't as difficult to fit under the cap (5.2M). I think I also read somewhere that GMGM was at the Ducks Blue Jackets game the other night (same night Carter got hurt).
In other news the caps recalled Tomas Kundratek (dman) when we currently have 7 healthy bodies (Wideman, Hamrlik, Carlson, Alzner, Erskine, Orlov and Schultz) not to mention Mike Green who clearly isn't healthy. Maybe Schultz is getting moved soon?
I was on the Carter thing for a while, but I'm nervous about being locked into that $6m per year for 10 more years. I probably would have taken a chance but I worry he's playing like garbage because he's not happy there, and at a certain point with that contract you have to be a professional even if you hate it.
Schultz is definitely on his way out it's just a matter of when. It's a shame they didn't deal Semin last year when he had another year left on his deal. Being a FA at the end of the season takes teams like ANA and CBS out of the equation because they can't compete this year.
DuffMan
01-19-2012, 10:35 AM
Much better effort last night. I was pretty disgusted with how flat and lifeless they looked at home on Tuesday night against a lousy Islanders team playing its 2nd game in a row. Much better effort last night and got scoring from all the lines. I'll be curious to see who gets the nod in goal in the next game. Hunter's been riding the Vokoun train lately (10 straight starts) and Vokoun has been playing better. But then Neuvirth comes in and gets the shutout last night. So will Dale reward him with another start or go back to Vokoun?
Nice little subplot last night as Bourque was recently traded to the Habs giving the Caps a chance to get some revenge for that hit he put on Backstrom. Would've preferred to see Erskine take him on, but Hendricks did an admirable job fighting a much bigger opponent. Speaking of Backstrom it was finally confirmed that he had a concussion, my guess is we won't see him until after the all star break at the earliest.
In other news Green goes to the LTIR and is out until at least the end of Feb, no surprise there.
One other gripe/observation about the team and I'm sure part of it is due to the system Hunter is putting in. The shot total. Obviously we aren't the run and gun style team we used to be, but in the past 2 nights we've put up 33 shots combined. The Caps haven't even put up 30 shots since the San Jose game. I know it's more about quality chances, but you can't score if you don't shoot the puck. Hopefully these numbers come up a bit in the 2nd half.
allstar1579
01-19-2012, 10:58 AM
Much better effort last night. I was pretty disgusted with how flat and lifeless they looked at home on Tuesday night against a lousy Islanders team playing its 2nd game in a row. Much better effort last night and got scoring from all the lines. I'll be curious to see who gets the nod in goal in the next game. Hunter's been riding the Vokoun train lately (10 straight starts) and Vokoun has been playing better. But then Neuvirth comes in and gets the shutout last night. So will Dale reward him with another start or go back to Vokoun?
Nice little subplot last night as Bourque was recently traded to the Habs giving the Caps a chance to get some revenge for that hit he put on Backstrom. Would've preferred to see Erskine take him on, but Hendricks did an admirable job fighting a much bigger opponent. Speaking of Backstrom it was finally confirmed that he had a concussion, my guess is we won't see him until after the all star break at the earliest.
In other news Green goes to the LTIR and is out until at least the end of Feb, no surprise there.
One other gripe/observation about the team and I'm sure part of it is due to the system Hunter is putting in. The shot total. Obviously we aren't the run and gun style team we used to be, but in the past 2 nights we've put up 33 shots combined. The Caps haven't even put up 30 shots since the San Jose game. I know it's more about quality chances, but you can't score if you don't shoot the puck. Hopefully these numbers come up a bit in the 2nd half.
Yeah it's getting a little old. What kills me is the home/road splits though. Neuvy will get the next start, this is how a lot of old school coaches handle goalies. Ride them til they have a rough game, then play the other guy and do the same. If they come in and get rocked in that first game, you go back to the other guy. It's fairly simple and it will let performance decide the starter, not rep.
Bourque knew it was coming before he got to the arena, 1:15 is all it took. That's just code of the game for you. They've known all along there was a concussion, but it's not as bad as most. I heard he COULD be back before the break, that he's not far off.
Nah, Green I saw coming a mile away, it's just complicated by him being a RFA this offseason.
Yeah the shots are definitely a drawback. I'm afraid that this area (and the 1000's of bandwagon fans) aren't going to be a fan of this system and are going to stop going. That exciting offensive system is what got the fans here. One bad offseason shouldn't have been an excuse to scrap it honestly. They should have just tried to fine-tune to pick up the defense a little bit instead of reinventing the wheel like they did.
Bosibus
01-20-2012, 05:40 PM
Yeah it's getting a little old. What kills me is the home/road splits though. Neuvy will get the next start, this is how a lot of old school coaches handle goalies. Ride them til they have a rough game, then play the other guy and do the same. If they come in and get rocked in that first game, you go back to the other guy. It's fairly simple and it will let performance decide the starter, not rep.
Bourque knew it was coming before he got to the arena, 1:15 is all it took. That's just code of the game for you. They've known all along there was a concussion, but it's not as bad as most. I heard he COULD be back before the break, that he's not far off.
Nah, Green I saw coming a mile away, it's just complicated by him being a RFA this offseason.
Yeah the shots are definitely a drawback. I'm afraid that this area (and the 1000's of bandwagon fans) aren't going to be a fan of this system and are going to stop going. That exciting offensive system is what got the fans here. One bad offseason shouldn't have been an excuse to scrap it honestly. They should have just tried to fine-tune to pick up the defense a little bit instead of reinventing the wheel like they did.
But maybe ticket prices will finally go down.
Dr. FLK
01-24-2012, 02:09 PM
Ovie won't attend AS game (http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/capitals-insider/post/alex-ovechkin-wont-attend-nhl-all-star-game/2012/01/24/gIQATzykNQ_blog.html) because of suspension.
allstar1579
01-24-2012, 03:03 PM
Ovie won't attend AS game (http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/capitals-insider/post/alex-ovechkin-wont-attend-nhl-all-star-game/2012/01/24/gIQATzykNQ_blog.html) because of suspension.
I love this move actually. The NHL has gotten a little suspension happy this year, trying to almost take contact out of hockey. I GET the protecting against head shots, there have been a LOT of concussions this year, but ask why suddenly there are so many now, when for YEARS you hardly saw any? Punish the elbows to the head MORE severely, punish clean checks where a guy leaves his feet LESS severely.
Now the NHL is without both of it's poster children for the all-star game, and can't fix it. I think it's a great learning experience for them.
allstar1579
01-25-2012, 06:33 PM
Matt Hendricks is the toughest guy in hockey. Period.
First, he gets hit in the side of the head by an Ovi slapshot that tears his ear in half. Literally...there are pics in the link.
Then he gets stitched up like Frankenstein, and plays the next night on the checking line all night, where he takes an elbow to the head from Michalek. He returns to the game and plays 17 minutes.
THEN he plays last night in BOS where he gets hit with another puck in the head, which splits his ear BACK open. He gets more stitches and comes BACK into the game and plays a career high almost 18 min.
TOUGH SOB.
http://prohockeytalk.nbcsports.com/2012/01/25/wanna-see-matt-hendricks-ear-split-in-half-warning-its-pretty-gross/
Warning!!! Gross pictures in link.