View Full Version : Orioles likely to name Lacava GM
bOhs01
10-28-2011, 12:06 PM
http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2011/10/orioles-likely-to-hire-tony-lacava-.html?utm_medium=facebook&utm_source=twitterfeed
Great news!!
Birds of B'more
10-28-2011, 12:08 PM
Heyman says the same.
@SI_JonHeyman
Jon Heyman
Hearing tony lacava very likely to get orioles gm job. Dipotos interview in baltimore likely caused quick angels call on dipoto
EDIT: Oops, Heyman was the original source. Should have read link first.
Orioles4Life21
10-28-2011, 12:08 PM
There may be hope after all....
MikeAD
10-28-2011, 12:09 PM
This would be HUGE news.
barellano
10-28-2011, 12:09 PM
Please let this be true. Please please please.
grimed1
10-28-2011, 12:10 PM
Heyman says the same.
@SI_JonHeyman
Jon Heyman
Hearing tony lacava very likely to get orioles gm job. Dipotos interview in baltimore likely caused quick angels call on dipoto
The story is from the Heyman tweet. Not finalized but could be real soon, Tuesday presser?
bOhs01
10-28-2011, 12:10 PM
Yes, especially after the Stockstill news. If they do end up hiring La Cava that is a great move for the future of this team. So long as Pete lets him do his thing.
grimed1
10-28-2011, 12:12 PM
Yes, especially after the Stockstill news. If they do end up hiring La Cava that is a great move for the future of this team. So long as Pete lets him do his thing.
Pete does not and it does not matter if we hire Kermit the frog.
I was hoping for Levine, but I'm definitely ready to get excited about LaCava.
allstar1579
10-28-2011, 12:13 PM
The story is from the Heyman tweet. Not finalized but could be real soon, Tuesday presser?
He'd be saying exactly the opposite if it were LaCava that got hired. If they were going to make that decision it'd be done by now. I think they are holding out for TEX to finish.
allstar1579
10-28-2011, 12:13 PM
Yes, especially after the Stockstill news. If they do end up hiring La Cava that is a great move for the future of this team. So long as Pete lets him do his thing.
And there is the problem. That didn't work with Wren.
bOhs01
10-28-2011, 12:15 PM
And there is the problem. That didn't work with Wren.
Yup, he's definitely the elephant in the room. We can hope though right.
Frobby
10-28-2011, 12:16 PM
I wouldn't necessarily take Heyman's word as gospel here. Hopefully this gets resolved early next week. I'm sick of waiting.
grimed1
10-28-2011, 12:17 PM
I still think the O's want to talk to Levine. We shall see .
Goober Noodles
10-28-2011, 12:17 PM
There ARE baseball gods! :2yay-thumb::2yay-thumb::2yay-thumb:
OrioleMagic
10-28-2011, 12:17 PM
Why leak it now on the morning of the 7th game of the World Series? Isn't Stockstill to be interviewed today? Isn't Heyman one of the least trustworthy national reporters? :confused:
I'd be happy with LaCava, but at this date, we should stay quiet and interview Levine.
mcgraw238
10-28-2011, 12:17 PM
Pete does not and it does not matter if we hire Kermit the frog.
Reading stuff like this makes me have very bad thoughts about the guy. You would think after all this time that Pete would figure things out. He really has earned that worst owner in sports tag he got a couple years back.
GMU Orioles Fan
10-28-2011, 12:17 PM
Hope this is true.
El Gordo
10-28-2011, 12:22 PM
Sounds to me like Heyman is just speculating La Cava because the Angels are going with Dipoto. I wouldn't get my hopes up.
Dipper9
10-28-2011, 12:24 PM
Pete does not and it does not matter if we hire Kermit the frog.
Damnit. I was really hoping Kermit was gonna "leap" to the front of the pack!
NewMarketSean
10-28-2011, 12:25 PM
Good news considering the ultimate situation that still exists in Baltimore with Angelos as owner.
Let's hope something can be done within a relatively short period of time.
grimed1
10-28-2011, 12:26 PM
Damnit. I was really hoping Kermit was gonna "leap" to the front of the pack!
You don't think he is a little green for the GM job?
Dipper9
10-28-2011, 12:28 PM
Why leak it now on the morning of the 7th game of the World Series? Isn't Stockstill to be interviewed today? Isn't Heyman one of the least trustworthy national reporters? :confused:
I'd be happy with LaCava, but at this date, we should stay quiet and interview Levine.
Sounds to me like Heyman is just speculating La Cava because the Angels are going with Dipoto. I wouldn't get my hopes up.
I agree with my friends here. If the Orioles were close to naming LaCava, why are they interviewing Stockstill? Why did Tony hear Hart earlier this week? Why would they be waiting in the WS to end to maybe interview Levine?
I hate to be pessimistic, but after the last 14 years, I ain't getting my hopes up for anything until I see LaCava standing in front of a podium at the Warehouse!
Dipper9
10-28-2011, 12:29 PM
You don't think he is a little green for the GM job?
Maybe, but he'd be "hoppy" to work hard and he is "leaps" and bounds better than Stockstill!
Bradysburns
10-28-2011, 12:30 PM
:scratchchinhmm:
I still think the O's want to talk to Levine. We shall see .
Me, too - it would be bizarre, IMO, for them to have waited this long... and then not to talk to Levine! Otherwise, why did they wait this long? Because Stockstill wasn't available for an interview?
Slappy
10-28-2011, 12:33 PM
Playing devil's advocate here - what makes LaCava so great? The fact that some baseball writers like him?
Sports Guy
10-28-2011, 12:34 PM
So, is Heyman now a good source because he is telling people what they want to hear?
UMDTerrapins
10-28-2011, 12:35 PM
I'll believe it when it's done....no sooner.
Sports Guy
10-28-2011, 12:36 PM
Playing devil's advocate here - what makes LaCava so great? The fact that some baseball writers like him?Have you paid any attention to what Toronto has done the last 3-5 years?
MikeAD
10-28-2011, 12:38 PM
Playing devil's advocate here - what makes LaCava so great? The fact that some baseball writers like him?
The Blue Jays have done everything we should be doing over the past several years. Bringing in talent at all levels of the organization and getting both quantity and quality.
Even if he wasn't a major player in that, hes still seen it done.
I have severe reservations that anyone can accomplish anything under Angelos, but this would be a great step even if there is only a little wiggle room.
carolinaoriole
10-28-2011, 12:41 PM
Yesterday on the Mid Atlantic Sports Report Buck said the Gm search was coming to an end and the Orioles were going to add a new member to the Oriole family. Perhaps he was speaking about Lacava.
Yesterday on the Mid Atlantic Sports Report Buck said the Gm search was coming to an end and the Orioles were going to add a new member to the Oriole family. Perhaps he was speaking about Lacava.
Unfortunately, that doesn't mean the new member is going to be the GM. Rumor has it they are hiring a new AA hitting coach, after all.:D
Dipper9
10-28-2011, 12:50 PM
Yesterday on the Mid Atlantic Sports Report Buck said the Gm search was coming to an end and the Orioles were going to add a new member to the Oriole family. Perhaps he was speaking about Lacava.
Wait, what? And you're just now telling us this why?
By the way, I didn't know anyone even watched that show! :D
AgentOrange
10-28-2011, 12:52 PM
So, is Heyman now a good source because he is telling people what they want to hear?
I'll believe it when it's done....no sooner.
Sounds to me like Heyman is just speculating La Cava because the Angels are going with Dipoto. I wouldn't get my hopes up.
I wouldn't necessarily take Heyman's word as gospel here. Hopefully this gets resolved early next week. I'm sick of waiting.
Doesn't sound like people think that SG.
Singleton
10-28-2011, 01:00 PM
So, is Heyman now a good source because he is telling people what they want to hear?
Soo negative. What we know is that the team has interviewed 4 candidates one of whom seems poised to be named by another team which leaves us with 3 choices. We also have a manager indicating that the search is ending and now we have a journalist saying a decision is imminent.
Sounds possible, yes?
Floater
10-28-2011, 01:00 PM
If true, the O's were smart to say they are going to interview Stockstill, now the La Cava signing would seem amazing compared to the threat of Stockstill. Genius move!
Satyr3206
10-28-2011, 01:11 PM
Unfortunately, that doesn't mean the new member is going to be the GM. Rumor has it they are hiring a new AA hitting coach, after all.:D
And all this time I thought they were naming a new head of janitorial services. Now I'm bummed.
TonySoprano
10-28-2011, 01:12 PM
Have you paid any attention to what Toronto has done the last 3-5 years?Do you mean finishing fourth? :D
Sports Guy
10-28-2011, 01:13 PM
Soo negative. What we know is that the team has interviewed 4 candidates one of whom seems poised to be named by another team which leaves us with 3 choices. We also have a manager indicating that the search is ending and now we have a journalist saying a decision is imminent.
Sounds possible, yes?I'm not negative at all.
People on here bash Heyman all the time...but now, since we are hearing what we want to hear, this is legit?
This is called the OH media double standard.(not all apply to this of course)
allstar1579
10-28-2011, 01:34 PM
Soo negative. What we know is that the team has interviewed 4 candidates one of whom seems poised to be named by another team which leaves us with 3 choices. We also have a manager indicating that the search is ending and now we have a journalist saying a decision is imminent.
Sounds possible, yes?
It does, but we also have this new digital media age where media members are in constant race to "scoop" others. (You see this on Twitter all the time and people having to apologize and credit other people later often)
You start to see people throw out educated guesses before things happen in an attempt to get a claim on the scoop, since that is the stuff that drives their career. It's no knock on them, or anything really negative, it's just the nature of how things have evolved. Then people take things put out there as being gospel and get mad when they don't turn out the way originally intended. It's made reporters jobs 20x harder.
grimed1
10-28-2011, 01:38 PM
It does, but we also have this new digital media age where media members are in constant race to "scoop" others. (You see this on Twitter all the time and people having to apologize and credit other people later often)
You start to see people throw out educated guesses before things happen in an attempt to get a claim on the scoop, since that is the stuff that drives their career. It's no knock on them, or anything really negative, it's just the nature of how things have evolved. Then people take things put out there as being gospel and get mad when they don't turn out the way originally intended. It's made reporters jobs 20x harder.
Happens all the time. Tex was going to the Red Sox. Reimold was getting traded for Bartlett.
SilentJames
10-28-2011, 01:41 PM
If this pans out it is great news.
TonySoprano
10-28-2011, 01:41 PM
It does, but we also have this new digital media age where media members are in constant race to "scoop" others. (You see this on Twitter all the time and people having to apologize and credit other people later often)
You start to see people throw out educated guesses before things happen in an attempt to get a claim on the scoop, since that is the stuff that drives their career. It's no knock on them, or anything really negative, it's just the nature of how things have evolved. Then people take things put out there as being gospel and get mad when they don't turn out the way originally intended. It's made reporters jobs 20x harder.buzz kill ;)
As others have said, I'll believe it when I see it, particularly since this is from Heyman.
Birds of B'more
10-28-2011, 01:44 PM
@Ken_Rosenthal
Ken Rosenthal
#BlueJays' LaCava still appears to be #Orioles' top choice, but #Dodgers' Watson had excellent interview, sources say. #MLB
allstar1579
10-28-2011, 01:46 PM
buzz kill ;)
As others have said, I'll believe it when I see it, particularly since this is from Heyman.
Yeah, I know, but I just bought stock in snow shovels so I felt like I had to discourage everyone from buying pitchforks instead.
Birds of B'more
10-28-2011, 02:10 PM
@TBrownYahoo
Tim Brown
Dodgers exec De Jon Watson has met three times with O's, including dinner Wednesday night with Buck Showalter, according to sources.
In other words, if Heyman thinks LaCava is happening, sounds like he's the only one right now.
crissfan172
10-28-2011, 02:21 PM
It's probably just conjecture on Heyman's part. It seemed to everyone (who hasn't suffered through the Hart rumor) that DiPoto and LaCava were the top candidates. One is gone, so obviously the other is the favorite.
grimed1
10-28-2011, 02:31 PM
[QUOTE=Birds of B'more;2594356]@TBrownYahoo
Tim Brown
Dodgers exec De Jon Watson has met three times with O's, including dinner Wednesday night with Buck Showalter, according to sources.
Three times? Does he mean that they had three interviews on Wednesday. Buck also took Lacava to dinner. After a long interview you usually go out for a bite.
Birds of B'more
10-28-2011, 02:37 PM
Three times? Does he mean that they had three interviews on Wednesday. Buck also took Lacava to dinner. After a long interview you usually go out for a bite.
Hopefully Buck is far better than MacPhail was in the Wining and Dining arena.
adamwolff11
10-28-2011, 02:43 PM
I hope this is true. I've liked everything I've read about LaCava.
TonySoprano
10-28-2011, 02:48 PM
Hopefully Buck is far better than MacPhail was in the Wining and Dining arena.It's all down to Angelos' wining and dining skills at Sabatino's. :D
grimed1
10-28-2011, 03:03 PM
LaCava may have crept into that top spot this week, so Dipoto's being off the board may not have mattered anyway. And I know the Orioles liked Los Angeles Dodgers assistant GM De Jon Watson as well.
LaCava is now obviously the favorite to be the new Orioles GM. But write that in pencil. I’ve learned over the years that nothing is official with the Orioles until it is official.
http://weblogs.baltimoresun.com/sports/orioles/blog/2011/10/report_sayd_dipoto_off_the_boa.html
crissfan172
10-28-2011, 03:05 PM
We'll know on Sunday. We just need to look to see which candidate is at the Ravens game. ;)
weams
10-28-2011, 03:58 PM
Happens all the time. Tex was going to the Red Sox. Reimold was getting traded for Bartlett.
And Hernandez and Simon. Andy Backed off when he found he could get Reynolds for David and that the DBacks would not take Tillman as a substitute. Then Hardy fell in his lap for essentially cash considerations.
weams
10-28-2011, 04:00 PM
We'll know on Sunday. We just need to look to see which candidate is at the Ravens game. ;)
Michael Phelps just tweeted that he was having dinner at Da Mimmos with the new Orioles GM !!:) !! :)
clapdiddy
10-28-2011, 04:01 PM
And Hernandez and Simon. Andy Backed off when he found he could get Reynolds for David and that the DBacks would not take Tillman as a substitute. Then Hardy fell in his lap for essentially cash considerations.
Are you flippin' serious? I'm glad that trade didn't go down.
clapdiddy
10-28-2011, 04:02 PM
Michael Phelps just tweeted that he was having dinner at Da Mimmos with the new Orioles GM !!:) !! :)
Now, if Prince Fielder starts tweeting this, then we'll get excited!
ebranger
10-28-2011, 04:05 PM
Anyone have a photo of Lacava? Saw Rick Dempsey walking into the warehouse today with a couple of other people I didn't recognize.
weams
10-28-2011, 04:07 PM
http://misterirrelevant.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/02/tony-lacava-style.jpg
Anyone have a photo of Lacava? Saw Rick Dempsey walking into the warehouse today with a couple of other people I didn't recognize.
cindyluvsbrady
10-28-2011, 04:10 PM
Why am I so worried???:eek:
weams
10-28-2011, 04:11 PM
Why am I so worried???:eek:Because it was this guy?
http://i.ytimg.com/vi/0qdhADE5uGQ/0.jpg
ebranger
10-28-2011, 04:12 PM
I can't say with 100% certainty, but that's a very good possibility. There were two people I hadn't ever seen around here before. One stockier guy with curly gray hair and another guy that at first glance, caught me by surprise because I thought, man, that guy kinda resembles Flanny. That picture definitely resembles him.
cindyluvsbrady
10-28-2011, 04:12 PM
Because it was this guy?
http://i.ytimg.com/vi/0qdhADE5uGQ/0.jpg
Who is this man???? He is a stranger= Danger!!!
ebranger
10-28-2011, 04:13 PM
Definitely not the guy in the MASN jacket. :)
EagleOriole
10-28-2011, 04:17 PM
Heyman, wouldn't trust him to get it right. Think word will come down Sunday after the World Series pub goes. Hoping for LaCava, expecting someone else still.
weams
10-28-2011, 04:19 PM
http://www.ladodgertalk.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/12/De-Jon-Watson.jpg
ebranger
10-28-2011, 04:21 PM
http://www.ladodgertalk.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/12/De-Jon-Watson.jpg
Was definitely not Watson
weams
10-28-2011, 04:23 PM
http://qualityatbats.com/images/baseball_hitting_drills_springer_tony_lacava.jpeg
http://ckelly.typepad.com/.a/6a00d8341c562353ef0112790fd6c828a4-800wi
Floater
10-28-2011, 04:25 PM
http://www.ladodgertalk.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/12/De-Jon-Watson.jpg
'Elementary, my dear Watson'
ebranger
10-28-2011, 04:27 PM
http://qualityatbats.com/images/baseball_hitting_drills_springer_tony_lacava.jpeg
http://ckelly.typepad.com/.a/6a00d8341c562353ef0112790fd6c828a4-800wi
As mentioned before, the guy on the lower right is a definite possibility and could very well be the one that struck me as looking a bit like Flannigan. Definitely not the rest.
ebranger
10-28-2011, 04:28 PM
As mentioned before, the guy on the lower right is a definite possibility and could very well be the one that struck me as looking a bit like Flannigan. Definitely not the rest.
Or wait, is the guy on the top right the same guy? Harder to see him clearly in that picture.
weams
10-28-2011, 04:56 PM
Yes, they are both Tony. I am un certain who the stocky one that you mentioned would have been.
Or wait, is the guy on the top right the same guy? Harder to see him clearly in that picture.
weaver
10-28-2011, 05:06 PM
TV Rogers Sportsnet's (the media company who own the Jays) sports ticker- Report: "Orioles expected to name Tony Lacava as their new GM"
Here is a photo of Lacava along with a reference story about this possible move.
http://www.torontosun.com/2011/10/14/orioles-to-talk-to-jays-lacava
NewMarketSean
10-28-2011, 05:09 PM
I also like that he already has familiarity with the AL East and comes from teams who have actually produced some really good quality players. Good move if this actually happens.
weams
10-28-2011, 05:26 PM
You see this guy recently?
http://photo.mylife.com/photos/023/964/732M.jpg
http://www.observertoday.com/photos/news/md/530861_1.jpg
waroriole
10-28-2011, 05:35 PM
I wouldn't necessarily take Heyman's word as gospel here. Hopefully this gets resolved early next week. I'm sick of waiting.
Exactly. Most people on here would usually say that Heyman is full of it.
PrivateO
10-28-2011, 05:38 PM
@Ken_Rosenthal
Ken Rosenthal
#BlueJays' LaCava still appears to be #Orioles' top choice, but #Dodgers' Watson had excellent interview, sources say. #MLB
Pretty sure everyone had a great interview by now.
Dipper9
10-28-2011, 07:09 PM
You see this guy recently?
http://photo.mylife.com/photos/023/964/732M.jpg
http://www.observertoday.com/photos/news/md/530861_1.jpg
No, but she's awfully cute!
Oh, you meant the guy!
Malike
10-29-2011, 12:00 AM
http://qualityatbats.com/images/baseball_hitting_drills_springer_tony_lacava.jpeg
http://ckelly.typepad.com/.a/6a00d8341c562353ef0112790fd6c828a4-800wi
Well, one thing is for sure. LaCava is going to fail miserably. He does not have a good baseball face.
scOtt
10-29-2011, 12:24 AM
http://misterirrelevant.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/02/tony-lacava-style.jpg
I just hope if he is hired people don't start calling him TLC. :rolleyestf:
mcgraw238
10-29-2011, 12:32 AM
Have you paid any attention to what Toronto has done the last 3-5 years?
I doubt it will matter. Frank Wren was a nice hire who apparently was ready to quit 2 weeks into the job. I sat next to Wren during an exhibition game in Birmingham and the guy already looked fatigued.
crissfan172
10-29-2011, 12:35 AM
I just hope if he is hired people don't start calling him TLC. :rolleyestf:
Why? At least we'd know that we wouldn't get any more scrubs.
scOtt
10-29-2011, 12:49 AM
TV Rogers Sportsnet's (the media company who own the Jays) sports ticker- Report: "Orioles expected to name Tony Lacava as their new GM"
Here is a photo of Lacava along with a reference story about this possible move.
http://www.torontosun.com/2011/10/14/orioles-to-talk-to-jays-lacava
That makes it a little more believable. You would think they would have some inside info.
scOtt
10-29-2011, 12:50 AM
You see this guy recently?
http://photo.mylife.com/photos/023/964/732M.jpg
http://www.observertoday.com/photos/news/md/530861_1.jpg
Our new Scouting Director? :)
President of the Hair Club for Men, I think...
weams
10-29-2011, 12:55 AM
I just hope if he is hired people don't start calling him TLC. :rolleyestf:
<iframe width="560" height="315" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/8WEtxJ4-sh4" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>
Waterfalls
Remember The Alomar
10-29-2011, 12:58 AM
TV Rogers Sportsnet's (the media company who own the Jays) sports ticker- Report: "Orioles expected to name Tony Lacava as their new GM"
Here is a photo of Lacava along with a reference story about this possible move.
http://www.torontosun.com/2011/10/14/orioles-to-talk-to-jays-lacava
This guy is a broadcaster for the Jays. I'm pretty sure it's just a regurgitation of the Heyman report, but where there's smoke...
Sad that the season is over, saddened further by the report that Tony LaCava will be named #orioles GM, though I'm thrilled for him.
http://twitter.com/#!/Wilnerness590/status/130124844548366337
Edit: Forgive me if this has been posted elsewhere, but I scanned this thread and didn't see it.
Heyman:
some could see orioles hiring both lacava & watson. maybe not as good a pair as crick & watson, but still good. #obscure?
http://twitter.com/#!/SI_JonHeyman/status/130062664104808449
RavNMadMan
10-29-2011, 01:36 AM
Does anyone else think Levine gets a meeting before the selection is made? I think that might happen. JMO. BTW I voted for LaCava earlier on when the GM threads first came out.
scOtt
10-29-2011, 01:39 AM
Does anyone else think Levine gets a meeting before the selection is made? I think that might happen. JMO. BTW I voted for LaCava earlier on when the GM threads first came out.
Absolutely. I think Levine is THE reason it has gone on this long.
JanJaap
10-29-2011, 01:44 AM
http://ckelly.typepad.com/.a/6a00d8341c562353ef0112790fd6c828a4-800wi
Who is the guy on the left side in the picture? A small child could seek shelter from the rain under that nose.
LookitsPuck
10-29-2011, 01:46 AM
Who is the guy on the left side in the picture? A small child could seek shelter from the rain under that nose.
JP Ricciardi
Remember The Alomar
10-29-2011, 01:47 AM
Who is the guy on the left side in the picture? A small child could seek shelter from the rain under that nose.
JP Ricciardi. Ex-GM for the Jays.
GoldGlove21
10-29-2011, 02:18 AM
LaCava was my first and I would be very excited to have him in Baltimore. The Orioles are far from perfect, but it doesn't take ages to turn things around if everyone gets on board in regards to the correct way to do them. I still believe that Angelos is more likely to hinder than help the Orioles, but he is our owner and as of right now he is not going anywhere in the near term.
I have seen enough GM's come and go without righting the ship that it is very hard for me to blame numerous GM's for "Not getting it". I think that having a quality GM candidate in LaCava and a guy with Showalter's reputation will help the Orioles, but to what degree? I suppose time will tell because I feel that LaCava is the right man for the job. I would have been cool with Dipoto leading our franchise as well, but I never really thought that he was coming here.
playbaltimorecom
10-29-2011, 02:48 AM
I am hearing things look favorable for Tony. The Stockstill thing is a weird twist; Hope that is just like a Dempsey interview.
Tony would be HUGE for us as an organization and terrific for player development and drafting.
Moose Milligan
10-29-2011, 02:51 AM
Doesn't matter who the GM is as long as Angelos is around.
scOtt
10-29-2011, 02:56 AM
Doesn't matter who the GM is as long as Angelos is around.
I (sadly) agree with this... but I think we're to the point now that this hire might outlast Angelos as owner. I think it's more important this time, to make a good hire.
LaCava was my first
When you post at 2 in the morning you really have to be careful about over-sharing. :laughlol:
Can_of_corn
10-29-2011, 09:28 AM
Absolutely. I think Levine is THE reason it has gone on this long.
I will be annoyed if the process has dragged on this long and Levine isn't interviewed.
raypetty
10-29-2011, 09:56 AM
I don't post much but scOtt it only makes sense. I think the Stock interview was to buy time until after the WS to ask permission to interview Thad Levine. He grew up an Os fan and is from the area. I think he would be the logical choice.
OsLuvrInKy
10-29-2011, 10:46 AM
Levine - President of Baseball Operations
LaCava - General Manager
I could live with this.
OrioleMagic
10-29-2011, 10:55 AM
Levine - President of Baseball Operations
LaCava - General Manager
I could live with this.
I think it would more likely be the opposite. IF both were hired.
allstar1579
10-29-2011, 10:59 AM
Levine - President of Baseball Operations
LaCava - General Manager
I could live with this.
Levine doesn't have the experience for that position. Won't happen. You'd have a VERY hard time selling LaCava why Levine gets to be Prez and he doesn't.
mcgraw238
10-29-2011, 12:03 PM
Hopefully LaCava is the guy early next week and the move signals a strong push to right the ship on all aspects of scouting and development.
EagleOriole
10-29-2011, 12:05 PM
Levine - President of Baseball Operations
LaCava - General Manager
I could live with this.
You could live with this, LaCava would not. Levine or LaCava, not both.
mcgraw238
10-29-2011, 12:10 PM
One thing that strikes me compared to other organizations is that our front office structure appears to be smaller than other clubs, i.e., a president of baseball operations, GM, assistant GM's. I could be wrong but it doesn't appear our level of staffing is on par with other clubs.
This isn't based on anything but I don't think we could team up LaCava and Levine in any capacity. They are both in good organizations and would need to be "the guy" to be convinced to leave.
Enjoy Terror
10-29-2011, 12:27 PM
I just hope if he is hired people don't start calling him TLC. :rolleyestf:
You shouldn't have said anything because the new AM will be TLC in my vernacular.
At least if it's TLC we can go to FanFest and tell him we don't want no scrubs.
crissfan172
10-29-2011, 12:54 PM
Why? At least we'd know that we wouldn't get any more scrubs.
At least if it's TLC we can go to FanFest and tell him we don't want no scrubs.
:cussing:
:p
Lucky Jim
10-29-2011, 01:12 PM
At least if it's TLC we can go to FanFest and tell him we don't want no scrubs.
Nothing's gonna stop Trea from chasin' waterfalls.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0NnzChrd0S4
weams
10-29-2011, 04:34 PM
I think it would more likely be the opposite. IF both were hired.
Roch has STRESSED that he has been told otherwise. One, not two.
byrdz
10-29-2011, 07:20 PM
If we do take Lacava do we start to see some Jays/Orioles trades?
Flacco Machado
10-29-2011, 08:03 PM
If we do take Lacava do we start to see some Jays/Orioles trades?
Who are some players from Toronto that you would like to see coming over to the Orioles?
*Please no Adam Loewen references...:)*
JTrea81
10-29-2011, 08:22 PM
If we do take Lacava do we start to see some Jays/Orioles trades?
We might see Grady Sizemore...
Flacco Machado
10-29-2011, 08:26 PM
We might see Grady Sizemore...
Yeah, LaCava was with Cleveland and Montreal. According to one story I read, he was very much involved in the Bartolo Colon for Cliff Lee, Sizemore, and Brandon Phillips deal. Good call JTrea.
weams
10-29-2011, 08:32 PM
Yeah, LaCava was with Cleveland and Montreal. According to one story I read, he was very much involved in the Bartolo Colon for Cliff Lee, Sizemore, and Brandon Phillips deal. Good call JTrea.
Probably true. But to me Sizemore is Roberts at best.
Floater
10-29-2011, 08:33 PM
I'm sure he'll be really sneaky with the trades, he'll just Creep...
Flacco Machado
10-29-2011, 08:38 PM
Probably true. But to me Sizemore is Roberts at best.
Yeah. It sure would be nice to catch lightning in a bottle though. Sizemore was one of THE BEST players in the league. Still not that old that he can't turn it around though. That is my hope anyway. I'm all for signing him and taking a chance. I guess it depends on what he's looking for. It could turn out to be a great steal this offseason. JJ Hardy: Part Deux?
bandy75
10-29-2011, 10:43 PM
One thing that strikes me compared to other organizations is that our front office structure appears to be smaller than other clubs, i.e., a president of baseball operations, GM, assistant GM's. I could be wrong but it doesn't appear our level of staffing is on par with other clubs.
I don't think this is necessarily true, we just don't use the GM/asst. GM title. There's president of baseball operations, director of baseball operations, directors of pro and amateur scouting, director of player development, and director of international operations that I can think of.
allstar1579
10-29-2011, 10:45 PM
Probably true. But to me Sizemore is Roberts at best.
Could be a Beltran situation though. Terrible for a couple years because of injury and then finally puts it back together when you least expect it.
ScottP
10-29-2011, 10:57 PM
Probably true. But to me Sizemore is Roberts at best.
Just had knee surgery again, on the same one they performed microfracture last year; I'd pass
eddie83
10-29-2011, 11:18 PM
Could be a Beltran situation though. Terrible for a couple years because of injury and then finally puts it back together when you least expect it.
Considering how difficult it is to attract FA's here and even if we could how much we would have to overpay, it is worth the risk to me. Until we start winning on our own these are the type of risks we might need to take.
thefan11
10-29-2011, 11:33 PM
Seriously, just don't let Grady play CF (which shouldn't be a problem). Most, if not all of his injuries are from wear and tear due his all or nothing outfield play. Let him DH and play LF and see what happens. I mean, production has never been his issue, so it won't be like a Garret Atkins situation. If Sizemore can be had for around 5 Mil or so, i'd pull the trigger and keep him the heck away from CF and play him no more than 5-6 days in a row.
mrbig1
10-29-2011, 11:57 PM
Does it really matter who the GM is?
Sports Guy
10-30-2011, 12:06 AM
Probably true. But to me Sizemore is Roberts at best.Sizemore is a perfect guy for a team like the Orioles to take a chance on.
JanJaap
10-30-2011, 02:10 AM
@ Remember the Alomar
Thanks
weams
10-30-2011, 08:39 AM
Sizemore is a perfect guy for a team like the Orioles to take a chance on.
Well then, I hope both Brian and Grady have huge years for us.
On another note.
I hope We Get LaCava
playbaltimorecom
10-30-2011, 11:24 AM
Levine - President of Baseball Operations
LaCava - General Manager
I could live with this.
I don't believe this is a possibility.
I believe that Tony was given the weekend to think it over and we could see an announcement on Monday. I was shocked at how early that turnaround was. Tuesday or Wed makes more sense, but just passing on what I heard.
OrioleMagic
10-30-2011, 01:26 PM
Roch has STRESSED that he has been told otherwise. One, not two. Agreed. (I capitalized "if" with that in mind.)
weams
10-30-2011, 03:45 PM
I don't believe this is a possibility.
I believe that Tony was given the weekend to think it over and we could see an announcement on Monday. I was shocked at how early that turnaround was. Tuesday or Wed makes more sense, but just passing on what I heard.
Thanks. I was told the same. But Tony was told that it is Hart so anyone's guess at this point.
weams
10-30-2011, 03:54 PM
Just had knee surgery again, on the same one they performed microfracture last year; I'd pass
Bo Jackson was really great until he had that hip replaced...
allstar1579
10-30-2011, 04:27 PM
Bo Jackson was really great until he had that hip replaced...
A couple years ago Microfracture was like the kiss of death because no one understood the recovery time. Now it looks like a year to get back to activity, and another year or two to get back to pre-injury status, but it does come back at least for the most part.
weams
10-30-2011, 04:39 PM
A couple years ago Microfracture was like the kiss of death because no one understood the recovery time. Now it looks like a year to get back to activity, and another year or two to get back to pre-injury status, but it does come back at least for the most part. SO how does subsequent insult to the area by surgical means effect the timeline?
Can_of_corn
10-30-2011, 04:41 PM
Just had knee surgery again, on the same one they performed microfracture last year; I'd pass
SO how does subsequent insult to the area by surgical means effect the timeline?
I could have sworn I saw a quote from him a few months back saying his other knee was bothering him just like the one he had surgery on. Are you sure it was the same knee Scott?
allstar1579
10-30-2011, 04:42 PM
SO how does subsequent insult to the area by surgical means effect the timeline?
It's actually pretty common, I think it's all part of the learning process about them since it's a fairly new procedure. You see it more in the NBA, Amare, Arenas guys like that have had it, gone MIA for a couple years (year out, year inneffective) and a lot of them have had a second procedure in there somewhere.
I think it's going to get to the point where they do the microfracture, and then schedule a second surgery to clean things up after a period of rehab since it's happening so often anyway.
allstar1579
10-30-2011, 04:44 PM
I could have sworn I saw a quote from him a few months back saying his other knee was bothering him just like the one he had surgery on. Are you sure it was the same knee Scott?
I'd imagine the overcompensation from the original knee would lead to more wear and tear on the other knee. Was the second one arthroscopic?
Can_of_corn
10-30-2011, 04:45 PM
I'd imagine the overcompensation from the original knee would lead to more wear and tear on the other knee. Was the second one arthroscopic?
The quote I saw was before he had anything done. He was just explaining that the issues he was having were the same as before. This was back in August maybe?
GoldGlove21
10-30-2011, 04:48 PM
I am not sure how a LaCava thread became a Sizemore debate, but I will provide my two cents. If we are going to essentially blow millions of dollars on a project than I would rather it be on a player like Sizemore who has higher upside than the Derek lee or Vlad Guerrero types in their mid to late 30's. Would I rather see that money pumped into the long-term health of our organization? Sure, but Sizemore could be a buy low and trade high candidate if they have two-thirds of a quality season following a couple oft-injured seasons. Does anyone here a guess to how much Sizemore will cost?
LookinUp
10-30-2011, 04:50 PM
If this happens (LaCava), it'll be really interesting to hear what he has to say and to see the guys he targets and/or is willing to trade.
GoldGlove21
10-30-2011, 04:58 PM
If this happens (LaCava), it'll be really interesting to hear what he has to say and to see the guys he targets and/or is willing to trade.
That COULD signify his mindset regarding build for 2 years from now or try to field a competitive team while also fixing our organizational issues. I say could because the players he identifies as trade bait will likely be the guys that Peter Angelos is willing to let LaCava move in the right deal.
Brendan25
10-30-2011, 05:06 PM
I could be wrong but I think that Buck will have more influence on who is and isn't trade bait then Angelos will.
weams
10-30-2011, 05:09 PM
If this happens (LaCava), it'll be really interesting to hear what he has to say and to see the guys he targets and/or is willing to trade.
Yeah, I think that is how we veered off of LaCava here. It becames a game of WWTD?
allstar1579
10-30-2011, 05:13 PM
Yeah, I think that is how we veered off of LaCava here. It becames a game of WWTD?
14 years later its the only way we keep our sanity...to imagine how much better it will be with the next guy.
ScottP
10-30-2011, 07:36 PM
I could have sworn I saw a quote from him a few months back saying his other knee was bothering him just like the one he had surgery on. Are you sure it was the same knee Scott?
My bad, it was the other knee.
Flacco Machado
10-30-2011, 08:08 PM
Yeah, I think that is how we veered off of LaCava here. It becames a game of WWTD?
If LaCava is hired, there will be some confusing times on this board with all the "Tony" references. :)
JTrea81
10-30-2011, 08:10 PM
If LaCava is hired, there will be some confusing times on this board with all the "Tony" references. :)
I think he'll get the TLC treatment that has already been mentioned.
crissfan172
10-30-2011, 08:14 PM
I think he'll get the TLC treatment that has already been mentioned.
Yes, and hopefully only because it's ridiculous...just like BMat.
The Rick
10-30-2011, 08:19 PM
The O's could use a little TLC...
http://i166.photobucket.com/albums/u90/RickerSays/tlc.png
weams
10-30-2011, 08:19 PM
Yes, and hopefully only because it's ridiculous...just like BMat.
Don't go chasing Waterfalls.
Flacco Machado
10-30-2011, 08:30 PM
Don't go chasing Waterfalls.
Davey "Left Eye" Lopes for 3rd base coach???:)
weams
10-30-2011, 09:15 PM
Davey "Left Eye" Lopes for 3rd base coach???:)
I would love that.
On a LaCava Note I have recieved additional verification that we should watch tomorrow's events closely. He is said to be an overwhelming favorite, unless he turns the job down. Tomorrow.
Remember The Alomar
10-30-2011, 09:17 PM
I would love that.
On a LaCava Note I have recieved additional verification that we should watch tomorrow's events closely. He is said to be an overwhelming favorite, unless he turns the job down. Tomorrow.
That would be a nice way to start the week. Crossing my fingers.
I would love that.
On a LaCava Note I have recieved additional verification that we should watch tomorrow's events closely. He is said to be an overwhelming favorite, unless he turns the job down. Tomorrow.
And that's what scares me. Interview stockstill in case no one outside of organization wants the job. I like Lacava but I wouldn't blame him for turning the job down.
weams
10-30-2011, 09:42 PM
And that's what scares me. Interview stockstill in case no one outside of organization wants the job. I like Lacava but I wouldn't blame him for turning the job down. The offer of a GM job to a fifty year old man who has not held that position is a difficult thing to pass up.
The offer of a GM job to a fifty year old man who has not held that position is a difficult thing to pass up.
That's what I keep telling myself. Only 30 of these suckers. From all I've read Lacava seems like the best fit.
Remember The Alomar
10-30-2011, 09:53 PM
The offer of a GM job to a fifty year old man who has not held that position is a difficult thing to pass up.
His age is one of the reasons I'm hopeful. If he was 30 something I would severely doubt it.
Flacco Machado
10-30-2011, 10:17 PM
I would love that.
On a LaCava Note I have recieved additional verification that we should watch tomorrow's events closely. He is said to be an overwhelming favorite, unless he turns the job down. Tomorrow.
Thanks for the info. Tempered enthusiasm right now.
NattieO'sHon
10-30-2011, 10:46 PM
I would love that.
On a LaCava Note I have recieved additional verification that we should watch tomorrow's events closely. He is said to be an overwhelming favorite, unless he turns the job down. Tomorrow.
Are there concerns he will turn us down?
gallden
10-30-2011, 10:49 PM
Reminds me of the Sean Miller time.
Remember The Alomar
10-30-2011, 10:51 PM
Reminds me of the Sean Miller time.
That was worse. Insiders on UMD and Zona boards were saying it was in the bag. The fact that it was such a whirlwind made it terrible too.
LookinUp
10-30-2011, 11:28 PM
Are there concerns he will turn us down?
Nothing that I've heard. Just the fear of what happens in bad organizations.
Remember The Alomar
10-30-2011, 11:44 PM
Law:
More of the same. Not 100% but likely he's their guy. RT @luke_jackson10: @keithlaw Hearing anything on LaCava?
http://twitter.com/#!/keithlaw/status/130851822482108416
NattieO'sHon
10-30-2011, 11:59 PM
This would be great news.
scOtt
10-31-2011, 02:29 AM
I think he'll get the TLC treatment that has already been mentioned.
*sigh* In trying to pre-empt something, I started a trend. :p
Dipper9
10-31-2011, 07:00 AM
*sigh* In trying to pre-empt something, I started a trend. :p
Has anyone seen The Other Guys where Michael Keaton's character keeps making TLC song references and doesn't know what he's doing? Pretty funny stuff.
csgordos
10-31-2011, 07:40 AM
A couple years ago Microfracture was like the kiss of death because no one understood the recovery time. Now it looks like a year to get back to activity, and another year or two to get back to pre-injury status, but it does come back at least for the most part.
It's actually pretty common, I think it's all part of the learning process about them since it's a fairly new procedure. You see it more in the NBA, Amare, Arenas guys like that have had it, gone MIA for a couple years (year out, year inneffective) and a lot of them have had a second procedure in there somewhere.
I think it's going to get to the point where they do the microfracture, and then schedule a second surgery to clean things up after a period of rehab since it's happening so often anyway.
Sorry I wasn't on yesterday to address the questions about microfracture. I have treated soccer players and some basketball players who have had microfracture surgery. It does take a year to medically return to full normal function. I don't believe a baseball player would need the extra year that was mentioned like a basketball or football player. The "second" year occurs because the athlete is afraid of hurting the knee again and doesn't trust the knee is fully recovered. Medically they are fine but they often need a whole year of not getting injured to go 100% with their cuts and explosion. I don't believe that would be a huge deal with a baseball player. My thoughts is that even at 90-95% he would be fine, vs. a running back in football or power forward in basketball. Even better if he could play CF the Orioles could move Jones to LF or trade him for some pitching or corner infielder.
grimed1
10-31-2011, 07:40 AM
I also keep hearing a Tuesday presser. They are also trying to get Watson to come on board. We shall see. The O's are unique because the guy who is doing the hiring might one day have to be fired by you. The Angels manager did not sit in on the interview process. I hear that no new interviews are scheduled.
grimed1
10-31-2011, 07:47 AM
Sorry to inform you Dipper,but Kermit the Frog will not be the new GM. His interview was not riveting.
weams
10-31-2011, 07:48 AM
I also keep hearing a Tuesday presser. They are also trying to get Watson to come on board. We shall see. The O's are unique because the guy who is doing the hiring might one day have to be fired by you. The Angels manager did not sit in on the interview process. I hear that no new interviews are scheduled.Thanks.
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ChaosLex
10-31-2011, 07:49 AM
I also keep hearing a Tuesday presser. They are also trying to get Watson to come on board. We shall see. The O's are unique because the guy who is doing the hiring might one day have to be fired by you. The Angels manager did not sit in on the interview process. I hear that no new interviews are scheduled.
They want to hire LaCava and Watson!?
weams
10-31-2011, 07:51 AM
Has anyone seen The Other Guys where Michael Keaton's character keeps making TLC song references and doesn't know what he's doing? Pretty funny stuff.
I shall have to view it.
To "T" step on that (shhhh)
We ain't 2 proud, We ain't 2 proud 2 beg
Thinkin' short of what you got
Better get it while it's hot
grimed1
10-31-2011, 07:52 AM
They want to hire LaCava and Watson!?
Lacava as GM. Watson in the position he has with the Dodgers. Asst GM/Scouting. Who knows if he wants to move to the O's. Both or either one might turn the job down.
Dipper9
10-31-2011, 07:53 AM
Sorry to inform you Dipper,but Kermit the Frog will not be the new GM. His interview was not riveting.
Damnit! I heard the opposite. I heard his interview was very ribbiting.
No problems though. Kermit has already moved on and will be hosting Monday Night Raw tonight. In an interview, Kermit said "Working for Vince McMahon is preferable to working with Peter Angelos."
Brendan25
10-31-2011, 08:00 AM
Lacava as GM. Watson in the position he has with the Dodgers. Asst GM/Scouting. Who knows if he wants to move to the O's. Both or either one might turn the job down.
This, in my opinion, could be the best possible scenario. Two guys with great scouting/developmental backgrounds joining the O's.
Dipper9
10-31-2011, 08:05 AM
This, in my opinion, could be the best possible scenario. Two guys with great scouting/developmental backgrounds joining the O's.
I agree. But why would Watson leave the Dodgers for a lateral move here?
weams
10-31-2011, 08:07 AM
I agree. But why would Watson leave the Dodgers for a lateral move here?
Because we are not bankrupt and because Frank McCourt has alienated everyone who ever worked for him. And obviously a raise.
JohnD
10-31-2011, 08:15 AM
Yeah, as screwed up as the Orioles are, the Dodgers are even worse.
weams
10-31-2011, 08:16 AM
Mike Wilner, Host of The JaysTalk along the Blue Jays Radio Network says he is saddened by the report that LaCava is taking the O's position, but very happy for Tony. LaCava.
And, oh my god, what is this madness?
I will not let it kill my gladness
And, oh my god, what is this madness?
My joy inside will send this message
I want to be somebody
I want to make a difference,
crissfan172
10-31-2011, 08:35 AM
Has anyone seen The Other Guys where Michael Keaton's character keeps making TLC song references and doesn't know what he's doing? Pretty funny stuff.
Whenever I think of or hear TLC, I think of kindergarden (when "Waterfalls" came out) and that movie. That whole bit was hilarious in the movie.
Sports Guy
10-31-2011, 08:38 AM
I also keep hearing a Tuesday presser. They are also trying to get Watson to come on board. We shall see. The O's are unique because the guy who is doing the hiring might one day have to be fired by you. The Angels manager did not sit in on the interview process. I hear that no new interviews are scheduled.So, no Levine?
We were told by some of the OH top minds that we were just interviewing Stockstill to waste time until Levine came around...They were wrong?
Sports Guy
10-31-2011, 08:39 AM
This will be an excellent hire if it happens....but will they truly allow him to implement his ideas?
JohnnyK27
10-31-2011, 08:39 AM
Mike Wilner, Host of The JaysTalk along the Blue Jays Radio Network says he is saddened by the report that LaCava is taking the O's position, but very happy for Tony. LaCava.
Great News... Hopefully we can now also add Watson who is mentioned above.
Brendan25
10-31-2011, 08:41 AM
This will be an excellent hire if it happens....but will they truly allow him to implement his ideas?
I would think so. I don't think the Orioles would be interviewing guys with the backgrounds that Lacava and Watson have if they didn't want them to implement what they are best at in our organization.
clapdiddy
10-31-2011, 08:45 AM
Great News... Hopefully we can now also add Watson who is mentioned above.
I'll believe it all when I hear it officially.
JohnnyK27
10-31-2011, 08:49 AM
I'll believe it all when I hear it officially.Yep with the Orioles until they announce it you should be wary.
Sports Guy
10-31-2011, 08:51 AM
I would think so. I don't think the Orioles would be interviewing guys with the backgrounds that Lacava and Watson have if they didn't want them to implement what they are best at in our organization.Common sense says this is true....but you can't rely on common sense when it comes to the Orioles and PA.
weams
10-31-2011, 09:28 AM
So, no Levine?
We were told by some of the OH top minds that we were just interviewing Stockstill to waste time until Levine came around...They were wrong?Yes. Wrong. Stockstill was the mystery candidate. Unless of course we hire Hart without an interview.
El Gordo
10-31-2011, 09:40 AM
Sorry to inform you Dipper,but Kermit the Frog will not be the new GM. His interview was not riveting.You mean not ribbiting? :laughlol:
LookinUp
10-31-2011, 09:44 AM
I've never heard of DeJon Watson until this process, but I cannot help but think this is a really nice development for the O's if we hire both LaCava and Watson. I like the idea of bringing in two smart guys from different leagues and different coasts, as they're likely very familiar with different players. I'm sure they're each familiar with a wide range of players of course, but you can't help but familiarize yourself more with players going against your MiL system, and players you're more likely to scout locally.
My only concern is whether LaCava endorses this idea, which I'm guessing he does.
El Gordo
10-31-2011, 09:51 AM
I've never heard of DeJon Watson until this process, but I cannot help but think this is a really nice development for the O's if we hire both LaCava and Watson. I like the idea of bringing in two smart guys from different leagues and different coasts, as they're likely very familiar with different players. I'm sure they're each familiar with a wide range of players of course, but you can't help but familiarize yourself more with players going against your MiL system, and players you're more likely to scout locally.
My only concern is whether LaCava endorses this idea, which I'm guessing he does.The last times we hired a former GM to work with our current GM it didn't work out so well.
JTrea81
10-31-2011, 09:53 AM
So Watson would be brought on as Director of Scouting with the task of overseeing all scouting and would absorb the duties of the Director of Amateur Scouting as well?
Lee MacPhail and Dave Stockstill would then remain in their current roles...
LookinUp
10-31-2011, 09:57 AM
The last times we hired a former GM to work with our current GM it didn't work out so well.
Call me Polyanna, but I'm hopeful that Buck's influence in this is better than whatever influences PA had several years ago. In functional organizations, smart people compliment each other, rather than competing with each other.
crissfan172
10-31-2011, 10:15 AM
Call me Polyanna, but I'm hopeful that Buck's influence in this is better than whatever influences PA had several years ago. In functional organizations, smart people compliment each other, rather than competing with each other.
I can see it now...
Buck: Hi, Tony. You're looking very handsome today.
TLC: Thank you, Buck. Are those new shoes? They look great on you!
;)
LookinUp
10-31-2011, 10:30 AM
I can see it now...
Buck: Hi, Tony. You're looking very handsome today.
TLC: Thank you, Buck. Are those new shoes? They look great on you!
;)
It's true. I don't know the difference between compliment and complement.
Flosman
10-31-2011, 10:53 AM
I would think so. I don't think the Orioles would be interviewing guys with the backgrounds that Lacava and Watson have if they didn't want them to implement what they are best at in our organization.
Leo says hi.
sangar
10-31-2011, 11:18 AM
So, no Levine?
We were told by some of the OH top minds that we were just interviewing Stockstill to waste time until Levine came around...They were wrong?Maybe Levine was not interested in interviewing?
JohnnyK27
10-31-2011, 11:22 AM
Maybe Levine was not interested in interviewing?
This may be true ...But youd think they would have found out weeks ago when they called to seek permission for the interview.
allstar1579
10-31-2011, 11:26 AM
This may be true ...But youd think they would have found out weeks ago when they called to seek permission for the interview.
They can't call to seek permission until their employer is out of the playoffs.
JohnnyK27
10-31-2011, 11:33 AM
They can't call to seek permission until their employer is out of the playoffs. Sorry if I'm incorrect...But I thought that he couldnt be interviewed. A casual call to a GM to say they want to interview _________ after the teams playoff run...Likely happens all the time.
allstar1579
10-31-2011, 11:38 AM
Sorry if I'm incorrect...But I thought that he couldnt be interviewed. A casual call to a GM to say they want to interview _________ after the teams playoff run...Likely happens all the time.
I'm pretty sure you can't even call to ask like that because it's the internal distraction that MLB wants to avoid. I mean it could mess with a team and their planning if say it's game 7 of the WS and the other team gets 10 teams to call and tell them, I want to interview your GM, I want to interview your coach, I want to interview your scouting director. That would almost be like prank calling a SP 15 times overnight the night before he has to pitch a big game in the morning.
Sports Guy
10-31-2011, 11:41 AM
I'm pretty sure you can't even call to ask like that because it's the internal distraction that MLB wants to avoid. I mean it could mess with a team and their planning if say it's game 7 of the WS and the other team gets 10 teams to call and tell them, I want to interview your GM, I want to interview your coach, I want to interview your scouting director. That would almost be like prank calling a SP 15 times overnight the night before he has to pitch a big game in the morning.I am sure through back channels, you can find out if the guy is interested.
You have also known for a while that AM was likely going to be gone, so you could have found out before the playoffs started.
weams
10-31-2011, 11:45 AM
Been told that LaCava was not in Baltimore on Friday at all. Been told that the interviews are not held at the warehouse. Been told that TLC has NOT been offered the job yet, but that that should occur shortly and then an announcement would be forth coming. That is all. This person is impecable. Checked this info twice for me.
This is officially what I believe to be factual.
sangar
10-31-2011, 11:47 AM
Been told that LaCava was not in Baltimore on Friday at all. Been told that the interviews are not held at the warehouse. Been told that TLC has NOT been offer the job yet, but that that should occur shortly and then an announcement would be forth coming. That is all. This person is impecable. Check this info twice for me.
This is offically what I believe to be factual.You're the man Weams.
JohnnyK27
10-31-2011, 11:50 AM
Been told that LaCava was not in Baltimore on Friday at all. Been told that the interviews are not held at the warehouse. Been told that TLC has NOT been offer the job yet, but that that should occur shortly and then an announcement would be forth coming. That is all. This person is impecable. Check this info twice for me.
This is offically what I believe to be factual.
Thanks.... So there was no wining & dining & special guests at the Ravens game yesterday???:D
Peace21
10-31-2011, 11:52 AM
So Watson may become our Scouting Director?
http://rds.yahoo.com/_ylt=A0PDoTF_xK5OTnwAmzejzbkF;_ylu=X3oDMTBpcGszamw 0BHNlYwNmcC1pbWcEc2xrA2ltZw--/SIG=123uat874/EXP=1320105215/**http%3a//www.imdb.com/media/rm386436608/tt0094898
JTrea81
10-31-2011, 12:00 PM
Been told that the interviews are not held at the warehouse.
So we are finally wining and dining? Or maybe the interviews are at PGA's law office.
grimed1
10-31-2011, 12:05 PM
Watson was interviewed and they took him out for food twice. Once by Buck. I am trying to get some info on why Levine seems to be not in the mix.
grimed1
10-31-2011, 12:06 PM
So we are finally wining and dining? Or maybe the interviews are at PGA's law office.
Hotel near the harbor.
LookinUp
10-31-2011, 12:34 PM
Been told that LaCava was not in Baltimore on Friday at all. Been told that the interviews are not held at the warehouse. Been told that TLC has NOT been offer the job yet, but that that should occur shortly and then an announcement would be forth coming. That is all. This person is impecable. Check this info twice for me.
This is offically what I believe to be factual.
My fingers are crossed. I have no trust in this organization, and if they're getting the cold shoulder from LaCava, this is exactly the type of thing I might want to leak to change the public narrative. Hopefully this purgatory ends today or tomorrow.
Dipper9
10-31-2011, 12:43 PM
Hotel near the harbor.
Hotel? Wait a minute, are these stories linked?
http://forum.orioleshangout.com/forums/showthread.php/115698-Adult-film-star-says-MLB-agent-pimped-her-out-to-recruit-clients-after-D-Backs-games
Hank Scorpio
10-31-2011, 12:47 PM
Hotel? Wait a minute, are these stories linked?
http://forum.orioleshangout.com/forums/showthread.php/115698-Adult-film-star-says-MLB-agent-pimped-her-out-to-recruit-clients-after-D-Backs-games
Booooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo ...
Dipper9
10-31-2011, 01:00 PM
Booooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo ...
Hey, at least I left Moose's mom out of it! ;)
weams
10-31-2011, 01:04 PM
Been told that LaCava was not in Baltimore on Friday at all. Been told that the interviews are not held at the warehouse. Been told that TLC has NOT been offered the job yet, but that that should occur shortly and then an announcement would be forth coming. That is all. This person is impecable. Checked this info twice for me.
This is officially what I believe to be factual.
I am just an Oriole fan like most of you.
I probably should have kept what I was told by someone who I respect to myself. I have no contact inside the decision making staff of the Baltimore Orioles. Anything that I post is only my opinion and a good friend or two nudges me if they think I have gone snooping down the wrong roadway.
I am going to let this subject drop myself and hope that all gets settled as quickly as we all would like for it to.
GoldGlove21
10-31-2011, 01:48 PM
My fingers are crossed. I have no trust in this organization, and if they're getting the cold shoulder from LaCava, this is exactly the type of thing I might want to leak to change the public narrative. Hopefully this purgatory ends today or tomorrow.
Public narrative doesn't really matter in this case. This holds especially true since many fans feel that Angelos and not a past or future GM is the root of our problem.
GoldGlove21
10-31-2011, 01:53 PM
I am just an Oriole fan like most of you.
I probably should have kept what I was told by someone who I respect to myself. I have no contact inside the decision making staff of the Baltimore Orioles. Anything that I post is only my opinion and a good friend or two nudges me if they think I have gone snooping down the wrong roadway.
I am going to let this subject drop myself and hope that all gets settled as quickly as we all would like for it to.
Not sure why people get so upset about early information. If I decided this morning that I wanted a turkey sandwhich for lunch and told my friend that I wanted one before settling on a Reuben was I wrong? If those changes can be made in our own lives than how can one expect a baseball organization to never change direction? I am happy for any information and I believe what your friend said to be true.
weams
10-31-2011, 02:26 PM
Not sure why people get so upset about early information. If I decided this morning that I wanted a turkey sandwhich for lunch and told my friend that I wanted one before settling on a Reuben was I wrong? If those changes can be made in our own lives than how can one expect a baseball organization to never change direction? I am happy for any information and I believe what your friend said to be true.Thanks, kind words.
Jimbo81
10-31-2011, 03:36 PM
Thanks, kind words.
You got no worries in here Michael! We got your back!
grimed1
10-31-2011, 03:37 PM
[QUOTE=weams;2595811]I am just an Oriole fan like most of you.
I probably should have kept what I was told by someone who I respect to myself. I have no contact inside the decision making staff of the Baltimore Orioles. Anything that I post is only my opinion and a good friend or two nudges me if they think I have gone snooping down the wrong roadway.
I am going to let this
Things change all the time and the O's are a strange bunch. No biggie.
JayThomas
10-31-2011, 03:53 PM
I am just an Oriole fan like most of you.
I probably should have kept what I was told by someone who I respect to myself. I have no contact inside the decision making staff of the Baltimore Orioles. Anything that I post is only my opinion and a good friend or two nudges me if they think I have gone snooping down the wrong roadway.
I am going to let this subject drop myself and hope that all gets settled as quickly as we all would like for it to.
Probably a good move on your part. I appreciate your sharing what you were comfortable sharing though.
weams
10-31-2011, 04:46 PM
Why are they all up on you?
And why do you act like it's cool?
I'm not gon' be your one so you can try and play me
It don't work that way baby
So let me know who you choose
If I'm here waiting for you
I don't like to play around
That's not how I get down
No foolishness allowed
Who's it gonna be
I'm not stressin' over you
So what you gonna do
Keep playin' you will lose
Who's it gonna be
weams
10-31-2011, 05:11 PM
Why are they all up on you?
And why do you act like it's cool?
I'm not gon' be your one so you can try and play me
It don't work that way baby
So let me know who you choose
If I'm here waiting for you
I don't like to play around
That's not how I get down
No foolishness allowed
Who's it gonna be
I'm not stressin' over you
So what you gonna do
Keep playin' you will lose
Who's it gonna be
Roch is spinning it that this is just the chance for TLC to meet with the BOSS.
CSB Jack
10-31-2011, 05:14 PM
Roch is spinning it that this is just the chance for TLC to meet with the BOSS.
Are they gonna talk about Glory Days?
FarmSystem
10-31-2011, 05:15 PM
He's just being forced to sit through the 5 hour don't sexually harass, come to work drunk and/or high, or shoot up the workplace videos before he gets the job.
JTrea81
10-31-2011, 05:22 PM
Are they gonna talk about Glory Days?
PGA is just asking for LaCava's opinion of John Hart obviously... :)
weams
10-31-2011, 05:32 PM
He's just being forced to sit through the 5 hour don't sexually harass, come to work drunk and/or high, or shoot up the workplace videos before he gets the job.
You are allowed to be drunk on the job. They don't show that video any longer.
Frobby
10-31-2011, 05:55 PM
From a chat on Fangraphs:
[Comment From Gutboy BarrelhouseGutboy Barrelhouse: ] Assuming it happens, thoughts on Tony LaCava as O's GM?
Monday October 31, 2011 12:57 Gutboy Barrelhouse
12:58 Dan Szymborski: Won't work without him having the power to restructure the entire organization.
Monday October 31, 2011 12:58 Dan Szymborski
12:58 Dan Szymborski: And won't work with Buck Showalter being the new Golden Boy with ownership.
He also predicts the O's will have interest in Paul Maholm.
http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/index.php/dan-szymborski-fangraphs-chat-103111/
Lucky Jim
10-31-2011, 05:57 PM
From a chat on Fangraphs:
He also predicts the O's will have interest in Paul Maholm.
http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/index.php/dan-szymborski-fangraphs-chat-103111/
Those are pretty much my thoughts. Though that doesn't mean I'm anti-LaCava. Here, at least there's a (slim) chance.*
*Maybe he gets the power he needs. Maybe Buck defers.
Frobby
10-31-2011, 06:02 PM
Those are pretty much my thoughts. Though that doesn't mean I'm anti-LaCava. Here, at least there's a (slim) chance.*
*Maybe he gets the power he needs. Maybe Buck defers.
Obviously, any GM the Orioles hire is going to have the same organizational obstacles to deal with. I still want the best guy available. If that's LaCava, then let's have LaCava. He's supposed to have great people skills, so maybe he'll be able to maneuver around the large rocks to either side.
scOtt
11-01-2011, 01:32 AM
You are allowed to be drunk on the job. They don't show that video any longer.
The hell you are! This ain't Boston!
And stay away from that fried chicken too. Come have a nice Italian meal at Sabatini's.