Where's Edwin Jackson

[Answerman]

Did he already sign? This guy intrigues me. If he is still available, why do I not read about him? What's he worth? Does 3/27 get his attention?

He seems like a guy that could bring some stability to our rotation, making someone else fight for the fifth spot and helping our annually fragile bullpen. He's only 28 years old, has high pressure experience and is available without breaking the bank.

Am I alone on this thought train?

[mskrulz]

Did he already sign? This guy intrigues me. If he is still available, why do I not read about him? What's he worth? Does 3/27 get his attention?

He seems like a guy that could bring some stability to our rotation, making someone else fight for the fifth spot and helping our annually fragile bullpen. He's only 28 years old, has high pressure experience and is available without breaking the bank.

Am I alone on this thought train?

Not wrong and I would love to have him. Not sure 3/27 gets it done though. He is a workhorse.

[Bluerocksfan]

I'm with you. I was expecting we would sign him and get Floyd.

[sangar]

Unfortunately, if Jackson signs for a reasonable amount it won't be with us. There are too many good teams out there looking for pitching.

[REDMAN]

I would offer 3 years 27,and then trade for Saunders of Diamondbacks and give up Gregg,salary relief,Rapada,gets lefty out but a luxury on a losing team and Berkens,needs a chance of scenery.

[crawjo]

I think the Orioles should go after this guy aggressively. I'd give him a four year deal, and I think he would be a real stabilizing force in the rotation. He's young and has been productive during his career.

I don't think 3/27 gets it done. But I'd go for 4/40 or maybe higher for him.

[El Gordo]

Not wrong and I would love to have him. Not sure 3/27 gets it done though. He is a workhorse.With Wilson getting 15M per, how much less should Jackson be expecting?10M?,12M?

[REDMAN]

Orioles will only go three years,policy of DD.

[crowmst3k!]

4/40 for Edwin Jackson would be a nice signing.

[hoosiers]

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2011/writers/joe_sheehan/12/09/edwin.jackson/index.html

This writer agrees with the sentiment.

I expect several teams are quiet waiting to jump for this guy and that the numbers being thrown around above are on the cheap side.

We should be involved to a point, but not sure where the bidding ends up.

[andrewochs615]

Orioles will only go three years,policy of DD.

I really don't like that policy, not that I don't think Edwin deserves higher then 4 years. I have a feeling DD won't even look at Jackson.

[wildcard]

He is a Boras client. He will not be cheap.

[33rdst]

Do you think DD should overpay for him?

[Floater]

So we are basically not signing any youngish pitchers ever with DD. Through FA, only over the hill SP will be interested in signing a 3 year deal.

[Slappy]

I think this might be one of the guys that DD said he made an offer to, but has not heard back from. I'd be happy to get him.

[Sports Guy]

Unless he has no market, 3/27 isn't getting him here and that is probably the most DD will offer...and he would be right in not offering more.

[oriole]

I wouldn't be too interested in him this offseason. He is likely to get a larger contract than he is worth due to the shallow pool of FA SP. He can give close to 200 innings which is nice but I think his ERA would be too close to 5 for my comfort.

[GoldGlove21]

Did he already sign? This guy intrigues me. If he is still available, why do I not read about him? What's he worth? Does 3/27 get his attention?

He seems like a guy that could bring some stability to our rotation, making someone else fight for the fifth spot and helping our annually fragile bullpen. He's only 28 years old, has high pressure experience and is available without breaking the bank.

Am I alone on this thought train?

Jackson wants a 4-year deal at $11M-$12M per year. I am not sure that he gets it, but I might risk a 4/$46M deal on jackson before I gave Beuhrle a 4/$58M deal.

[GoldGlove21]

I wouldn't be too interested in him this offseason. He is likely to get a larger contract than he is worth due to the shallow pool of FA SP. He can give close to 200 innings which is nice but I think his ERA would be too close to 5 for my comfort.

Maybe, but he is Jeremy Guthrie good and people were saying that Guthrie could get a deal at $9M per year even though he is older than Jackson. Jackson makes this team better and a lot of guys are getting more than they are worth this offseason.

[mskrulz]

Unless he has no market, 3/27 isn't getting him here and that is probably the most DD will offer...and he would be right in not offering more.

I'm not arguing this point but at what point and what player should we offer more? Why not 3/33? What are we gonna do with the extra 2 million per year? Give it to another scrub player? A 3/27 player to us may not be a 3/27 to a better team. Players are not going to take less to come here. Edwin Jackson is a workhorse who has a pretty decent track record lately and upside. When do we ante up and pay more to get a helpful player and stop plugging depth with Dane Eveland types.

What player is the right player???

[Sports Guy]

I'm not arguing this point but at what point and what player should we offer more? Why not 3/33? What are we gonna do with the extra 2 million per year? Give it to another scrub player? A 3/27 player to us may not be a 3/27 to a better team. Players are not going to take less to come here. Edwin Jackson is a workhorse who has a pretty decent track record lately and upside. When do we ante up and pay more to get a helpful player and stop plugging depth with Dane Eveland types.

What player is the right player???

Because he isn't that good.

[REDMAN]

Because he isn't that good.

Yes,but sadly he better tham we have!

[mskrulz]

Because he isn't that good.

I agree he's not great but he is solid and throws alot of innings. He also has upside. I prefaced my post by saying that I wasn't necessarily arguing with you but who is that player? Is Gavin Floyd a better pitcher? What would we give him if he was on the open market? (I know that he isn't but they are very similar to me) So I ask again...What player is worth spending the extra money on???

[scOtt]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v340/if6was9/WheresEdwinJackson.jpg?t=1323557090

[fish113d]

I think the Orioles should go after this guy aggressively. I'd give him a four year deal, and I think he would be a real stabilizing force in the rotation. He's young and has been productive during his career.

I don't think 3/27 gets it done. But I'd go for 4/40 or maybe higher for him.

I'd think 4/36 would get it done...10 a year is pretty steep for a #3 or 4 starter. However, I would think we'd try to be all over this guy for sure! If we could give up something to get him and Gavin Floyd and then I'd go after Prince and offer him part-ownership or something to get that LH bat in our lineup. Good fielder or not, he can play 1B or he can DH for years. He'd be like having David Ortiz in our lineup and we could build around him in the 4-hole for years!

[Brion McClanahan]

Where's Edwin Jackson? Saw him yesterday as the parade marshal for the Bi-City Christmas Parade in Phenix City, AL. He was riding in the first convertible car in the parade waving at the crowd. I didn't see any money bags in the seat next to him, and he wasn't wearing a ball cap, so the speculation continues, but I found him.

[Jimbo81]

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2011/writers/joe_sheehan/12/09/edwin.jackson/index.html

This writer agrees with the sentiment.

This might be the best SIheartsBoras piece I have ever seen.

To make the argument that Edwin Jackson should get a similar contract to CJ Wilson because he has done it longer is hilarious!

Edwin Jackson is Guthrie like.

[REDMAN]

Would still be a major upgrade for the orioles.

[CA-ORIOLE]

He's really done a nice job getting that walk rate down from the minors and his first couple years in the majors. Shows it's possible I guess.

[El Gordo]

This might be the best SIheartsBoras piece I have ever seen.

To make the argument that Edwin Jackson should get a similar contract to CJ Wilson because he has done it longer is hilarious!

Edwin Jackson is Guthrie like.It wouldn't hurt to have two Guthries. Of course the best way to acquire SP and upgrade our rotation is to trade Jones, but for what ever the reasons that can't happen. So do we just sign back of the rotation types like Eveland and pray the cavalry finally comes, or do we do the best we can and sign a giy like Jackson?

[Capn Vivi]

He's definitely a possibility for the Orioles, more of a two steps forward one step back variety, though. I expect it would require a vesting option on a 4th year to get him to come here. Duquette has already said he will not offer pitchers contracts greater than 3 years in length.

He's probably the easiest and most straightforward way to upgrade our pitching staff. His numbers against the AL East aren't setting off any alarms, either. He's also been worth more than $15m/season each of the last 3 years (according to Fangraphs). Picking him up at $9-11m/year seems to be a relative bargain considering our need.

[Oriolidae85]

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So we are basically not signing any youngish pitchers ever with DD. Through FA, only over the hill SP will be interested in signing a 3 year deal.

I'd go over the hill and 3 years for Roy Oswalt, especially for less than 3/27 guaranteed.


This might be the best SIheartsBoras piece I have ever seen.

To make the argument that Edwin Jackson should get a similar contract to CJ Wilson because he has done it longer is hilarious!

Edwin Jackson is Guthrie like.

Guthrie (http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/split.cgi?id=guthrje01&year=Career&t=p) is better than Jackson (http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/split.cgi?id=jacksed01&year=Career&t=p)
In a larger sample size, Guthrie is better verse the Sox/Yankees...albeit EJ was younger/less experienced in his AL East sentence. The difference between success for comparison's sake is Guthrie's control. Jackson has more swing/miss, but that won't matter if EJ doesn't improve to his ceiling and avoids walks against the most patient/whinny lineups in the league.

[SrMeowMeow]

Jackson has averaged 3.7 WAR for the last 3 years and he's 28. I'd prefer three years, of course, but I'd do 4/45 or so.