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RichmondVA Orio
02-17-2007, 08:29 PM
www.sportfanatik.com

For all those that believe the O's will easily win more than 73 games, here is your chance to cash in.

Disclaimer: The O's have failed to reach the over for the last three years.

Moose Milligan
02-17-2007, 08:57 PM
Man thats tough.

I can see how we'll make the over and I can also see how we'll make the under. Everything is going to have to go right for us to make the over, IMO...and we all know how that rarely happens.

Good thing I'm not a betting man.

MoeknowsO's
02-17-2007, 09:36 PM
The Orioles are on their way to a 86 win season. Bedard rocks, Cabrera comes through, & Loewen shows hes for real. The offense is good enough to win when the pitching is not so hot, and the bullpen becomes dominant.

Orioles pull a good trade at the deadline to bolster the offense some more.

I will even throw money on it. Thats how confident I am that this team will excel this year. I just have a good feeling about this team I havent had for a few years now.

MARK IT!!!!!!!!!!!!

bigbird
02-17-2007, 09:47 PM
I'd never wager through one of these services but I'll put $100 that we'll win more than 73 games.

Lucky Jim
02-17-2007, 10:13 PM
I think we're easily an 80 win team. Don't get me wrong - there's are scenarios in which I can see us falling short, but they're the exception...

...if I were a betting man...

Moose Milligan
02-17-2007, 10:24 PM
I think the thing that keeps me from thinking this team can win 80 or so games is that we've made it a habit to limp/crawl/struggle to the finish line in seemingly every season over the past 4-5 years.

Didn't we close the year out like 4-28 or something in 2004?

osfan493
02-17-2007, 10:53 PM
Thanks for the link. Might actually make me some money!

RichmondVA Orio
02-17-2007, 11:14 PM
Thanks for the link. Might actually make me some money!

Yea, every year I think about betting the over but decide not to. This year I agree with you. 74 wins is definitely doable.

Can you believe that just as many people will take the under? Atleast that is what the line is set for.

Whatever0
02-17-2007, 11:26 PM
73 does seem a bit low. I'd bet money on it, even though I'm not that confident in the Os this year. If the line was 77, then I'd be a bit more worried.

EddieO's21
02-17-2007, 11:36 PM
I'd put 100$ that they win over 73 but 200$ that we win less than 82, just not there yet

Baltimoron
02-18-2007, 02:56 AM
The Orioles are on their way to a 86 win season. Bedard rocks, Cabrera comes through, & Loewen shows hes for real. The offense is good enough to win when the pitching is not so hot, and the bullpen becomes dominant.

Orioles pull a good trade at the deadline to bolster the offense some more.

I will even throw money on it.

I'll take your action up to a grand. I'm not sure how we would arrange the escrow, but I'm open to your suggestions.

PM me your contact info.

33rdst
02-18-2007, 10:23 AM
Betting the over is a good bet IMO. In order for the O's to win less than 73 games their winning percentage would have to be around 45%. To have that kind of a winning percentage their ERA would have to come in at about 5.5 runs/game and they would have to score about 4.5runs /game. I just see this team being a lot better than that.

SteveA
02-18-2007, 11:56 AM
Betting the over is a good bet IMO. In order for the O's to win less than 73 games their winning percentage would have to be around 45%. To have that kind of a winning percentage their ERA would have to come in at about 5.5 runs/game and they would have to score about 4.5runs /game. I just see this team being a lot better than that.

Last year I started a similar thread when these #s came out. And I believe the total was 73 (or maybe 73.5?). And the general consensus was that we might not break .500 but we would definitely go over the 73. I think maybe only one or two people didn't think the over was a good bet.

Looks like we have a similar consensus this year. Hope we're not wrong again!

33rdst
02-18-2007, 12:03 PM
Last year I started a similar thread when these #s came out. And I believe the total was 73 (or maybe 73.5?). And the general consensus was that we might not break .500 but we would definitely go over the 73. I think maybe only one or two people didn't think the over was a good bet.

Looks like we have a similar consensus this year. Hope we're not wrong again!

With all of the moves we've made this off season, we have to be better. Don't you think?

SteveA
02-18-2007, 12:24 PM
With all of the moves we've made this off season, we have to be better. Don't you think?

Yes, actually I do. But I'm just saying that most of us thought we would be better last year and we weren't.

El Gordo
02-18-2007, 01:17 PM
Yes, actually I do. But I'm just saying that most of us thought we would be better last year and we weren't.

If you believe Bedard, Loewen, and DCab won't show any improvement, the bullpen is as bad as it was last year, Huff and Mora will continue to decline, Nick will put up the same numbers as last year and Trax, Wright, Penn /Olsen will combine to win 9 games, then we might not make the over. That's a lot of negative "if's" to bet on.

jjdman
02-20-2007, 07:34 AM
I took the plunge

Single #67623003
Baseball - Futures (Game) Total
2007 MLB Regular Season Wins - Baltimore Orioles
Must play 160 games for action. (ONLY Regular Season). No Parlays. Max $600
(1105) Baltimore Orioles Ov. vs. (1106) Baltimore Orioles Un. Over 73½ (-115) Apr 01/07@12:00p



Risk $575.00 to win $500.00

davearm
02-20-2007, 11:48 AM
For anyone curious about the rest of MLB, here's the list:


New York Yankees 97
Boston Red Sox 90.5
Los Angeles Angels 89.5
Los Angeles Dodgers 88.5
Philadelphia Phillies 88.5
New York Mets 88
Detroit Tigers 87.5
Chicago White Sox 86.5
Toronto Blue Jays 86.5
Chicago Cubs 85.5
Cleveland Indians 84.5
Oakland Athletics 84.5
St Louis Cardinals 84.5
San Diego Padres 84
Minnesota Twins 83.5
Atlanta Braves 81.5
Milwaukee Brewers 81.5
San Francisco Giants 81.5
Texas Rangers 81.5
Florida Marlins 78.5
Houston Astros 78.5
Arizona Diamondbacks 77.5
Cincinnati Reds 76.5
Seattle Mariners 75.5
Colorado Rockies 74.5
Baltimore Orioles 73.5
Pittsburgh Pirates 71.5
Kansas City Royals 67.5
Tampa Bay Devil Rays 67
Washington Nationals 66.5


I like the under on NYY, LAD, and PHI, and the over on CLE, STL, MIN, MIL, BAL, PIT, and TB.

Sports Guy
02-20-2007, 11:50 AM
For anyone curious about the rest of MLB, here's the list:


New York Yankees 97
Boston Red Sox 90.5
Los Angeles Angels 89.5
Los Angeles Dodgers 88.5
Philadelphia Phillies 88.5
New York Mets 88
Detroit Tigers 87.5
Chicago White Sox 86.5
Toronto Blue Jays 86.5
Chicago Cubs 85.5
Cleveland Indians 84.5
Oakland Athletics 84.5
St Louis Cardinals 84.5
San Diego Padres 84
Minnesota Twins 83.5
Atlanta Braves 81.5
Milwaukee Brewers 81.5
San Francisco Giants 81.5
Texas Rangers 81.5
Florida Marlins 78.5
Houston Astros 78.5
Arizona Diamondbacks 77.5
Cincinnati Reds 76.5
Seattle Mariners 75.5
Colorado Rockies 74.5
Baltimore Orioles 73.5
Pittsburgh Pirates 71.5
Kansas City Royals 67.5
Tampa Bay Devil Rays 67
Washington Nationals 66.5


I like the under on NYY, LAD, and PHI, and the over on CLE, STL, MIN, MIL, BAL, PIT, and TB.
I like the over with KC...I think they could win 75-80 games this year.

davearm
02-20-2007, 11:52 AM
I like the over with KC...I think they could win 75-80 games this year.
Based on what?

RZNJ
02-20-2007, 11:54 AM
I like the over with KC...I think they could win 75-80 games this year.

Even though the Nationals are last on the list, I'll take the under on them. They should be terrible and I think they expect to be. Their best pitcher has never made it through a full season healthy and they nothing after him. Oh yeah, and there offense sucks. And that was before they put Christian Guzman back at SS.

Sports Guy
02-20-2007, 11:54 AM
Based on what?

They have alot of young talent....I know their pitching isn't great but i think they could surprise some people.

A big key for them will be Dotel being able to stay healthy.

Sports Guy
02-20-2007, 11:56 AM
Even though the Nationals are last on the list, I'll take the under on them. They should be terrible and I think they expect to be. Their best pitcher has never made it through a full season healthy and they nothing after him. Oh yeah, and there offense sucks. And that was before they put Christian Guzman back at SS.

Yea, they are pretty bad.....They should be trading Nick Johnson, Patterson and anyone else with alot of value and totally rebuild around Zimmerman and what they get back in the trades.

davearm
02-20-2007, 11:58 AM
They have alot of young talent....I know their pitching isn't great but i think they could surprise some people.

A big key for them will be Dotel being able to stay healthy.
Lots of young positional talent, no starting pitching, and a bullpen full of ??? and retreads.

Sounds like the last several DRays teams to me.

I'll take the under on 75.

RZNJ
02-20-2007, 11:58 AM
Yea, they are pretty bad.....They should be trading Nick Johnson, Patterson and anyone else with alot of value and totally rebuild around Zimmerman and what they get back in the trades.

Pretty tough to trade Nick Johnson right now. He won't play until June, maybe later. From what I've read, the ownership there is ready to bite the bullet for a few seasons and try to build from the bottom up, so a few trades like you suggested aren't out of the realm of possibility.

davearm
02-20-2007, 12:01 PM
Yea, they are pretty bad.....They should be trading Nick Johnson, Patterson and anyone else with alot of value and totally rebuild around Zimmerman and what they get back in the trades.
Sucks to be them.

Worst team at the MLB level, and pretty much the unanimous choice for the worst farm system in baseball. Ugh.

Ya think maybe they should've traded Soriano last July?

Sports Guy
02-20-2007, 12:01 PM
Pretty tough to trade Nick Johnson right now. He won't play until June, maybe later. From what I've read, the ownership there is ready to bite the bullet for a few seasons and try to build from the bottom up, so a few trades like you suggested aren't out of the realm of possibility.
What is wrong with Johnson now???

Sports Guy
02-20-2007, 12:02 PM
Sucks to be them.

Worst team at the MLB level, and pretty much the unanimous choice for the worst farm system in baseball. Ugh.

Ya think maybe they should've traded Soriano last July?

Would they have gotten more value for him than 2 high draft picks can get them? Maybe, maybe not..i am not sure.

RZNJ
02-20-2007, 12:03 PM
What is wrong with Johnson now???

His broken leg from last year has still not healed.

Sports Guy
02-20-2007, 12:09 PM
Lots of young positional talent, no starting pitching, and a bullpen full of ??? and retreads.

Sounds like the last several DRays teams to me.

I'll take the under on 75.

It will be interesting to see if Greinke is back.

They need Odalis Perez to eat innings and be league average.

They have some good arms like Brazelton as well, so maybe they can get something out of these guys. Plus, how quickly does Hovechar move?

Sports Guy
02-20-2007, 12:10 PM
His broken leg from last year has still not healed.

That poor bastard is always hurt..lol

Frobby
02-20-2007, 01:29 PM
For anyone curious about the rest of MLB, here's the list:


New York Yankees 97
Boston Red Sox 90.5
Los Angeles Angels 89.5
Los Angeles Dodgers 88.5
Philadelphia Phillies 88.5
New York Mets 88
Detroit Tigers 87.5
Chicago White Sox 86.5
Toronto Blue Jays 86.5
Chicago Cubs 85.5
Cleveland Indians 84.5
Oakland Athletics 84.5
St Louis Cardinals 84.5
San Diego Padres 84
Minnesota Twins 83.5
Atlanta Braves 81.5
Milwaukee Brewers 81.5
San Francisco Giants 81.5
Texas Rangers 81.5
Florida Marlins 78.5
Houston Astros 78.5
Arizona Diamondbacks 77.5
Cincinnati Reds 76.5
Seattle Mariners 75.5
Colorado Rockies 74.5
Baltimore Orioles 73.5
Pittsburgh Pirates 71.5
Kansas City Royals 67.5
Tampa Bay Devil Rays 67
Washington Nationals 66.5


I like the under on NYY, LAD, and PHI, and the over on CLE, STL, MIN, MIL, BAL, PIT, and TB.

If you add up all the teams on the list they are 12 games over .500. Bet the under on all of them and you should make out!

jjdman
02-21-2007, 08:58 AM
If you add up all the teams on the list they are 12 games over .500. Bet the under on all of them and you should make out!

Frobby they aren't even money bets. Some you would have to lay $150 etc to win $100. Very hard to get over oddsmakers

Baltimoron
02-26-2007, 09:49 PM
If you add up all the teams on the list they are 12 games over .500.

Its a reflection of the marginal impact of the "bet the home team" dead money type of action.

SteveA
07-15-2007, 02:23 PM
Thought this thread was worth a bump, now and once again in September. That 73 for the O's could still go either way, we have an awful lot of Boston/New York the rest of the way. But if New York continues to be a .500ish team that doesn't play well against us, that might nto be a bad thing.

Migrant Redbird
07-15-2007, 02:43 PM
Is anyone signed up at the site who can post the updated odds? I would assume that they're still taking bets, but not at the over/under lines posted back in February.

With 40 wins and 72 games left to play, I see the O's just need to play .500 ball to beat their over by 3 wins.

SteveA
07-15-2007, 03:42 PM
Is anyone signed up at the site who can post the updated odds? I would assume that they're still taking bets, but not at the over/under lines posted back in February.

With 40 wins and 72 games left to play, I see the O's just need to play .500 ball to beat their over by 3 wins.

No, most of these bets are only taken before the season. None of the sites I know take them at adjusted #s throughout the season. They'll adjust the odds on winning the division or the league or the World Series, but not the win total bets.

The O's just need to play .500 ball for 72 games? That's not somethign we do very often!