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Maverick2143
08-21-2007, 04:10 PM
Predict the BCS Title game and the winner.

Mine is WVU vs. USC

31-21 WVU

Slaton runs for 150 and 2 TD, White passes for 240 and runs for a TD and Noel Devine returns a late punt to seal the win.










And then I wake up from a very wet dream.

Sports Guy
08-21-2007, 07:31 PM
USC...Too talented, too deep and too experienced....Best coach as well.

USC does have a tough test week 2 though...In Nebraska.

ixcuincle
08-21-2007, 08:43 PM
USC over #2 team to be determined (LSU / VT / etc)

Carroll has a phenomenal record against out-of-conference teams...with an experience QB and a load of talent I don't see anyone toppling USC this year.

Danielos38
08-21-2007, 09:26 PM
USC over West Virgina with Florida in a close 3rd. (I couldn't help myself about the Florida part :D)

geschinger
08-21-2007, 11:10 PM
West Virgina 41 LSU 38

College Football's most innovative coach leads the nations most exciting offense to a National Championship.

beaner
08-21-2007, 11:46 PM
USC over Michigan

mweb
08-22-2007, 12:56 AM
West Virgina 41 LSU 38

College Football's most innovative coach leads the nations most exciting offense to a National Championship.

Shocking that you picked West Virginia.;)

USC to win, not sure yet on the runner up.

Pedro Cerrano
08-22-2007, 01:43 AM
I would be absolutely shocked if USC didn't win the title this year. I haven't been more certain about an eventual NC in a long long time.

geschinger
08-22-2007, 09:48 AM
Shocking that you picked West Virginia.;)

USC to win, not sure yet on the runner up.

WVU has a favorable schedule... I don't see who beats them this year. I'm not a real believer in Booty so I figure USC will figure out a way to lose one this year.

Danielos38
08-22-2007, 11:54 AM
WVU has a favorable schedule... I don't see who beats them this year. I'm not a real believer in Booty so I figure USC will figure out a way to lose one this year.

Maybe Maryland could come out of nowhere to beat them :D. I know I've already got my tickets to that game.

geschinger
08-22-2007, 12:18 PM
Maybe Maryland could come out of nowhere to beat them :D. I know I've already got my tickets to that game.

Years from now you'll be able to say that you had the opportunity to witness one of the greatest offenses of this era. No ACC team will be able to contain 'em let alone stop 'em. ;)

Pedro Cerrano
08-22-2007, 12:29 PM
Years from now you'll be able to say that you had the opportunity to witness one of the greatest offenses of this era. No ACC team will be able to contain 'em let alone stop 'em. ;)

All while not passing the ball once the entire season!

Sports Guy
08-22-2007, 02:09 PM
If LSU has one loss and WVU goes undefeated, i think LSU should still go over them.

However, i doubt that happens.

LSU or WVU go against USC...USC wins easily in NC game.

Sports Guy
08-22-2007, 02:14 PM
At MD, at Rutgers and Louisville at home won't be easy for WVU Gesch.

geschinger
08-22-2007, 02:19 PM
At MD, at Rutgers and Louisville at home won't be easy for WVU Gesch.

@USF is a very tough game as well. That is a program that is on it's way up. If they can keep White and Slaton healthy (which they weren't for key games last year) they should win each of those games.

Maverick2143
08-22-2007, 03:21 PM
WVU has a favorable schedule... I don't see who beats them this year. I'm not a real believer in Booty so I figure USC will figure out a way to lose one this year.

I agree, I can see USC losing to Nebraska or at Cal.

Moreso at Nebraska.

Sports Guy
08-22-2007, 04:41 PM
I agree, I can see USC losing to Nebraska or at Cal.

Moreso at Nebraska.The thing is, if they do lose to Nebraska, it hurts them greatly but it is also an early season loss....They could win out and still end up in the national title game.

I think USC is just going to be flat out to fast for Nebraska on both sides of the ball but you never know...Great tradition...Road game, early in the season...Maybe USC isn't clicking on all cylinders yet.

geschinger
08-22-2007, 04:51 PM
The thing is, if they do lose to Nebraska, it hurts them greatly but it is also an early season loss....They could win out and still end up in the national title game.

I think USC is just going to be flat out to fast for Nebraska on both sides of the ball but you never know...Great tradition...Road game, early in the season...Maybe USC isn't clicking on all cylinders yet.

I think they are much more likely to lose a conference game later in the year. They've had some close calls in previous years. I see them blowing at least one game with a late INT or some other screw up by Booty.

Birds of B'more
08-23-2007, 02:55 AM
USC definitely has the most talent. Their schedule isn't a cakewalk with games at Nebraska and Cal, but they should manage. Their opponent is a tougher choice.

I like LSU, especially on defense, but their schedule is brutal........Vatech, Florida, Auburn, Arkansas. The good news is that all of the aformentioned games are at home. With a strong schedule like that even a loss might not end their hopes. Then there is the SEC Championship Game.........although with the disgrace that is the BCS I suppose it's possible LSU could play for the NC without even having to play for the SEC title.:rolleyes: Regardless, I think LSU loses two...........an upset on the road (Kentucky?) and in the SEC title game to Florida.

Whoever wins the Lousville/WV game could be undefeated at the end, but I'm not sure that would be enough to get them in the big game. Aside from Rutgers and maybe S Fla, I don't think those who vote will put much stock in the Big east competition..........and neither team makes up for it with their non-conference schedule.

Outside of maybe VT, no one in the ACC looks to be an NC contender, and I think the Hokies will get knocked out when they go to Baton Rouge. Texas could make some noise out of the Big 12, but I think they get beat by A&M and that will end any NC game hopes for them.

I'm going to go with a dark-horse as my 2nd team for the title game...........Wisconsin. And I say they're a dark-horse because even though they're #7 in both polls no one seems to mention them as a title contender. They will have to survive trips to Penn St and Ohio St and beat Michigan at home, but something just tells me it's their year.

USC vs. Wisconsin. USC wins.

geschinger
08-23-2007, 08:22 AM
Whoever wins the Lousville/WV game could be undefeated at the end, but I'm not sure that would be enough to get them in the big game. Aside from Rutgers and maybe S Fla, I don't think those who vote will put much stock in the Big east competition..........and neither team makes up for it with their non-conference schedule.


Good post, although I do have one quibble. The voters are showing the Big East teams some love in the preseason polls with three teams in the preseason top 16. If the 3 teams all take care of business until the end of october they'll all be top ten teams when they start playing each other.

Bold prediction to mark down... The BEast will have [2] BCS teams this season.

Birds of B'more
08-23-2007, 05:39 PM
Bold prediction to mark down... The BEast will have [2] BCS teams this season.

That will almost certainly depend on what the non-automatic conference teams do. If one of them earns a BCS bid (Hawaii and TCU seem to have a shot), then I don't see a 1-loss Big East team getting an at-large bid when you have the runners-up from the SEC and Big-10 to contend with. But if a non-affiliated conference team doesn't make it, then I could see it happening. One thing that will help all of the conferences is that Notre Dame likely won't be eligible to get slaughtered again in a BCS bowl, thankfully.

ledzepp8
08-24-2007, 12:17 PM
That will almost certainly depend on what the non-automatic conference teams do. If one of them earns a BCS bid (Hawaii and TCU seem to have a shot), then I don't see a 1-loss Big East team getting an at-large bid when you have the runners-up from the SEC and Big-10 to contend with. But if a non-affiliated conference team doesn't make it, then I could see it happening. One thing that will help all of the conferences is that Notre Dame likely won't be eligible to get slaughtered again in a BCS bowl, thankfully.

Well it would have happened last year if WVU hadn't lost to South Florida.

Birds of B'more
08-24-2007, 03:27 PM
Well it would have happened last year if WVU hadn't lost to South Florida.

I doubt it. At-large bids went to Boise St, LSU, ND and Michigan last year. Boise St would have still gone because the new rules dictated that based on where they finished in the BCS standings they were guaranteed a spot. Michigan would still have gone because the Rose Bowl wanted to keep its traditional Big-10/Pac-10 matchup.........and since many believed, at least up until the BCS bowl games were played, that Michigan was the second best team in the country there was no way they would have been left out. Under your scenario, that would leave LSU, ND and WVU as selections for the Sugar Bowl. With LSU practically being the home team and making the game a guaranteed sellout, plus ND's drawing power on TV ratings, I'd be 99.9% certain WVU would have been on the outside of the BCS looking in even if they hadn't lost to SFU last season.

ledzepp8
08-24-2007, 04:25 PM
I doubt it. At-large bids went to Boise St, LSU, ND and Michigan last year. Boise St would have still gone because the new rules dictated that based on where they finished in the BCS standings they were guaranteed a spot. Michigan would still have gone because the Rose Bowl wanted to keep its traditional Big-10/Pac-10 matchup.........and since many believed, at least up until the BCS bowl games were played, that Michigan was the second best team in the country there was no way they would have been left out. Under your scenario, that would leave LSU, ND and WVU as selections for the Sugar Bowl. With LSU practically being the home team and making the game a guaranteed sellout, plus ND's drawing power on TV ratings, I'd be 99.9% certain WVU would have been on the outside of the BCS looking in even if they hadn't lost to SFU last season.

Dude, WVU would have won the Big East if they hadn't lost to South Florida. That means automatic bid for them. The BCS Standings as of 11/19/06 had WVU #7 and Louisville #9. Louisville never lost again from that point on. If WVU had beaten USF, they would have won out too and would have been the Big East champion because they beat Rutgers, getting the automatic bid and Louisville would have been ranked high enough in the BCS to get an at-large bid.

Birds of B'more
08-24-2007, 05:49 PM
Dude, WVU would have won the Big East if they hadn't lost to South Florida. That means automatic bid for them. The BCS Standings as of 11/19/06 had WVU #7 and Louisville #9. Louisville never lost again from that point on. If WVU had beaten USF, they would have won out too and would have been the Big East champion because they beat Louisville, getting the automatic bid and Louisville would have been ranked high enough in the BCS to get an at-large bid.


Wrong and wrong again. WVU lost to Louisville last season (http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/recap?confId=&gameId=263060097). And even if WVU beat SF, both teams would have been 6-1 in conference and Louisville would have won the tiebreaker (http://grfx.cstv.com/photos/schools/bige/sports/m-footbl/auto_pdf/tiebreak.pdf).

Birds of B'more
08-24-2007, 05:55 PM
Oklahoma is back with a strong team, and will have a chance…. Have to beat Miami at home… win at Texas, and win the Big12 title game… but I don't like them winning at Texas...

Actually, even though the game takes place in the state of Texas, UT/OU is traditionally a neutral game played at the Cotton Bowl and tickets are divided evenly between the schools. That said, I also think Texas will beat OU, but will lose at A&M, and that late-season loss will knock them down just a bit too far in the polls to recover.

ledzepp8
08-24-2007, 07:07 PM
Wrong and wrong again. WVU lost to Louisville last season (http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/recap?confId=&gameId=263060097). And even if WVU beat SF, both teams would have been 6-1 in conference and Louisville would have won the tiebreaker (http://grfx.cstv.com/photos/schools/bige/sports/m-footbl/auto_pdf/tiebreak.pdf).

Sorry, what I meant(and have since changed to)was that WVU beat Rutgers. And since Rutgers beat Louisville...WVU would have won the BIG EAST Title and gotten the auto bid.

geschinger
08-24-2007, 07:22 PM
Sorry, what I meant(and have since changed to)was that WVU beat Rutgers. And since Rutgers beat Louisville...WVU would have won the BIG EAST Title and gotten the auto bid.

This is correct... WVU would have won the conference if not for the loss to USF.

ledzepp8
08-24-2007, 07:31 PM
This is correct... WVU would have won the conference if not for the loss to USF.

Exactly and Louisville would have still been ranked high enough in the BCS standings to get an at-large bid.

Birds of B'more
08-24-2007, 07:39 PM
Sorry, what I meant(and have since changed to)was that WVU beat Rutgers. And since Rutgers beat Louisville...WVU would have won the BIG EAST Title and gotten the auto bid.

I still think you're wrong.

2006 Big East Final Standings

Louisville 6-1 (12-1)
West Virginia 5-2 (11-2)
Rutgers 5-2 (11-2)
South Florida 4-3 (9-4)
Cincinnati 4-3 (8-5)
Pittsburgh 2-5 (6-6)
Connecticut 1-6 (4-8)
Syracuse 1-6 (4-8)

2006 Big East Final Standings if WVU beats USF

Louisville 6-1 (12-1)
West Virginia 6-1 (12-1)
Rutgers 5-2 (11-2)
Cincinnati 4-3 (8-5)
South Florida 3-4 (8-5)
Pittsburgh 2-5 (6-6)
Connecticut 1-6 (4-8)
Syracuse 1-6 (4-8)

According to this (http://grfx.cstv.com/photos/schools/bige/sports/m-footbl/auto_pdf/tiebreak.pdf), Louisville still wins the title under that scenario because they won the head-to-head with WV. But this is splitting hairs. I see what your main point is and I still have to disagree........even if the Big East had two 1-loss teams last year, I still think that they would not have received an at-large BCS bid over the other teams that got in, namely LSU and ND even though they each had 2 losses.

ledzepp8
08-24-2007, 07:51 PM
I still think you're wrong.

2006 Big East Final Standings

Louisville 6-1 (12-1)
West Virginia 5-2 (11-2)
Rutgers 5-2 (11-2)
South Florida 4-3 (9-4)
Cincinnati 4-3 (8-5)
Pittsburgh 2-5 (6-6)
Connecticut 1-6 (4-8)
Syracuse 1-6 (4-8)

2006 Big East Final Standings if WVU beats USF

Louisville 6-1 (12-1)
West Virginia 6-1 (12-1)
Rutgers 5-2 (11-2)
Cincinnati 4-3 (8-5)
South Florida 3-4 (8-5)
Pittsburgh 2-5 (6-6)
Connecticut 1-6 (4-8)
Syracuse 1-6 (4-8)

According to this (http://grfx.cstv.com/photos/schools/bige/sports/m-footbl/auto_pdf/tiebreak.pdf), Louisville still wins the title under that scenario because they won the head-to-head with WV. But this is splitting hairs. I see what your main point is and I still have to disagree........even if the Big East had two 1-loss teams last year, I still think that they would not have received an at-large BCS bid over the other teams that got in, namely LSU and ND even though they each had 2 losses.

Well you may be right about who would get the auto bid, but the point remains that according to the rules of the BCS...WVU or Louisville still would have been ranked in the top 12. That would be high enough to get an at large bid.

Birds of B'more
08-24-2007, 08:11 PM
Well you may be right about who would get the auto bid, but the point remains that according to the rules of the BCS...WVU or Louisville still would have been ranked in the top 12. That would be high enough to get an at large bid.

That would have been high enough for them to be eligible, but that doesn't mean they would have been automatically in. Notre Dame would have been bumped down to #12 (http://msn.foxsports.com/id/6234594_37_1.pdf), but still eligible (http://www.bcsfootball.org/bcsfb/eligibility)and they would have gotten the nod over the Big East's #2 becuase they pretty much guarantee high TV ratings. Not that I approve, mind you. I think LSU vs WV would have been an interesting game. I hate Notre Dame and what they stand for, and I'm sick of seeing them selected to play in bowl games that they don't deserve to be in just becuase of $$$. They end up being overmatched against an opponent that actually deserves to be there, and end up getting shellacked year in and year out while a more deserving team plays in a lesser bowl. Unfortunately, college football stopped being about the caliber of play on the field and became all about money years ago.

Big Mac
08-26-2007, 09:50 AM
I think it's pretty obvious Rutgers is gonna bring home the title this year.

gallden
08-28-2007, 07:22 PM
LSU vs USC.

LSU!! Geaux Tigers!!

OregonBird
08-28-2007, 07:42 PM
USC, book it. Of course I'm not exactly going out on a limb here.

beaner
08-28-2007, 08:11 PM
Don't sleep on Michigan...Remember where you heard it.

Birds of B'more
09-01-2007, 01:38 PM
Don't sleep on Michigan...Remember where you heard it.

So far Michigan are the ones who are asleep.

beaner
09-01-2007, 01:41 PM
So far Michigan are the ones who are asleep.

Did I say Michigan? My fault, I meant Appalachian State...i always mix those two up..How stupid do i look right about now.

mweb
09-01-2007, 03:59 PM
USC over Michigan

Try again.:p :D

beaner
09-01-2007, 05:16 PM
Try again.:p :D

Oops. Truly remarkable.

mweb
09-08-2007, 05:15 PM
Oops. Truly remarkable.

They're looking even better today!:D Could this be the end of Lloyd Carr?

Sports Guy
09-29-2007, 10:14 AM
West Virgina 41 LSU 38

College Football's most innovative coach leads the nations most exciting offense to a National Championship.

Nope....................

geschinger
09-29-2007, 10:27 AM
Nope....................

What I really meant was USF 41 LSU 38 ;)

mweb
09-29-2007, 02:54 PM
Going to have to wait a little longer to join the elite.;)

geschinger
09-29-2007, 03:22 PM
Going to have to wait a little longer to join the elite.;)

Doesn't a team have to be elite to turn the ball over 6 times, lose a Heisman candidate have another Heisman candidate forget to show up and still have a chance to tie at the end against one of this countries best 18 programs? ;)

mweb
09-29-2007, 04:00 PM
Doesn't a team have to be elite to turn the ball over 6 times, lose a Heisman candidate have another Heisman candidate forget to show up and still have a chance to tie at the end against one of this countries best 18 programs? ;)

Well they actually played better without White, and use teams instead of programs. But yeah, it's impressive that they were still in the game with all the to's.

Birds of B'more
10-02-2007, 01:38 AM
Doesn't a team have to be elite to turn the ball over 6 times, lose a Heisman candidate have another Heisman candidate forget to show up and still have a chance to tie at the end against one of this countries best 18 programs? ;)

An elite team shouldn't turn the ball over 6 times to begin with, especially in what is arguably the biggest game of the season.

geschinger
10-02-2007, 08:57 AM
An elite team shouldn't turn the ball over 6 times to begin with, especially in what is arguably the biggest game of the season.

I can't argue that point. I am still very disappointed that they didn't come ready to play in a game of that magnitude. It was definately not what I expected.