Online Poker/eWallets

[Spoonless]

I really hate how I have to use an electronic wallet to put money into online poker. No credit cards will let you use them, and even a PayPal Virtual Debit card will not work. So I have to use this MyWebATM garbage to get my money into Full Tilt. It costs $2.82 to put my money from my bank account into MyWebATM, and they charge $3.95 a month to maintain a balance. To get money out of the service and back into my bank account, they charge $4.

So, having not used it in a month, and having no balance, I assumed the $3.95 would not be charged to me. The minimum deposit into Full Tilt is $50. So, I transfer $50 into MyWebATM, which costs me $52.82. I go to deposit into Full Tilt, and find that I can't, because they deducted the $3.95 for the last month that I didn't have any money in there. Apparently, they just put your balance at -$3.95, and if you decide to use it again, that money comes out of your deposit. So now I have to put $4 into there to cover that $3.95, which ends up costing me $6.82 because of the fee.

I finally get on Full Tilt, and some guy catches runner runner deuces to make quads to beat my pocket kings. Oh well, at least I'm up $120 on the day.

[Baroquen131]

I haven't deposited since before the latest legislation that banned it. Can't even remember what system I used... it wasn't Neteller (or whatever it was called) because that was banned in MD even earlier. FirePay, maybe?

Anyway, I'm still slowly building a bankroll. Hoping the feds get their act together and change the rules to allow easier transactions. (Or hoping the US loses that Antigua-WTO case and that forces change. Ha! Like that will happen.)

Still a fun way to pass the time.

[Spoonless]

I haven't deposited since before the latest legislation that banned it. Can't even remember what system I used... it wasn't Neteller (or whatever it was called) because that was banned in MD even earlier. FirePay, maybe?

Anyway, I'm still slowly building a bankroll. Hoping the feds get their act together and change the rules to allow easier transactions. (Or hoping the US loses that Antigua-WTO case and that forces change. Ha! Like that will happen.)

Still a fun way to pass the time.

I used to be on Bodog, and they did direct depositing from my checking account that I set up specifically for online poker (with a different bank than my main checking and savings accounts are). That was nice, and cashing out was nice too, because it would go right in my bank account, no fees.

I had used Neteller on FTP until they stopped accepting US accounts. MyWebATM has a shorter waiting period between telling it to get money from my account and it actually showing up on my MyWebATM account (usually within 18-24 hours) than ePassporte, but I haven't really looked at ePassporte very hard. If their fees are that much less, I may try them out.

I used to like Bodog, but I think Full Tilt is better for me, since I can't blow all my poker winnings on sports. Bodog, I used to bet on baseball parlays. Usually small bets, like $5 or $10. It was fun to have a vested interest in a lot more games than the O's, but I make more money through Full Tilt and my lack of sports betting. Plus, the Omaha Hi games on Bodog were crap. They're much more populated on FTP.

[Baroquen131]

Internet poker is such a joke IMO. When you have the money in with the best hand you just don't win. People play so loose. People call you down until the river with a hand they should have mucked at every stage, including pre flop, and then end up sucking out.

Just really bad.

I don't know what to tell you. Maybe bump up a level or two and play against better players and not the riff-raff? Or play tighter when the maniacs show their playing tendencies? Some of the suck-outs are amazing though.

[Spoonless]

Yeah...I don't know, the playing might improve as the stakes get higher, but it's still generally pretty bad IMO.

I remember I had a sheet full of hands that I lost on, with the percentages, when we both had our money in and I had the best hand. From just about 4 hours of playing...It was pretty sick.

I just think you see things online, whether it's how actual play, or how the cards fall, that you will never see in a live game. Whether thats the play, the site, or both, who knows.

It's also the sheer number of hands you see in a short amount of time. Hands are instant. There's no shuffling of cards.

I play 3 or 4 tables at once. Usually one $1/2 table, and 2 or 3 $.50/1 tables. That's an insane number of hands per minute.

As far as bad beats go, I went broke (lost $500+) when I flopped quad 6's (had pocket 66, flop came 66T) and the other guy pushed me all in with KTo, and caught runner runner tens to out-quad me. I quit online poker for 8 months after that one.

[Flosman]

Suck outs happen in live poker also. If it happens to often to you it is likely that you need to learn more about pot odds and implied odds. I lot of players don't bet their hands properly and give the player with a weak hand great odds all the way down, then complain when the suck out happens. Just remember that there are professional poker players that have a reputation of hitting alot of rivers because they see alot of rivers.