Should we consider McNabb next year?

[helloharv]

I think McNabb will be out of Philly next off-season as they decide to go with Kolb.

I think he would be a great fit for us IF he ever gets 100% healed which I think he will with another off-season or if he gets benched toward the end of the season thus giving him less wear and tear.

I think this should be the last year for McNair. He is really showing signs of wearing down and his lack of downfield throws limit our offense. Boller is a great back-up so why not bring in McNabb for the right price?

What do you think?

[DuffMan]

I think McNabb will be out of Philly next off-season as they decide to go with Kolb.

I think he would be a great fit for us IF he ever gets 100% healed which I think he will with another off-season or if he gets benched toward the end of the season thus giving him less wear and tear.

I think this should be the last year for McNair. He is really showing signs of wearing down and his lack of downfield throws limit our offense. Boller is a great back-up so why not bring in McNabb for the right price?

What do you think?

That's a really big IF! The guy hasn't played a full season in several years. When healthy he's great, but when is that going to happen. McNabb is just a younger version of McNair who is always getting beat up and having to play hurt.

[NewMarketSean]

I think we could be getting into another McNair situation with McNabb. Not saying that McNabb is over the hill as much as McNair may be, but I think we'd be getting him a little too late. And his health isn't exactly stellar either.

[helloharv]

I see what you guys are saying about the injuries but at this stage , I think McNabb can be more explosive for our offense than McNair could next year.

We would have to wait and see but if McNabb can heal up either by sitting behind Kolb or using the off-season to get healthy, the nI think it would be a nice risk/reward situation.

Who else can we bring in next year to be our starter?

[Mackus]

I think Boller will win the job this year, making this a moot point.

[Camden_yardbird]

As much as I love McNabb and think he would be a great fit here I think this team must find a long term solution at QB to be competitive. With every team in our division having a long term solution at QB (Browns are questionable, but may have two) this team needs a long term solution at QB.

[AgentOrange]

I think Boller will win the job this year, making this a moot point.

I don't think Boller winning the job this year makes anything "moot".

If the organization thinks McNabb is the better answer out of all 3 QBs, they would pick him up. Just because Boller is at the helm at the time wouldn't mean they wouldn't try and upgrade the position if needed.

[BaltimoreTerp]

Let's see:

Old...check.

Injury-prone...check.

Can't throw deep...check.

Getting screwed-over by his present team resulting in countless trade rumors...check.

"McNa"...check.

He's perfect to replace McNair!

Now we just need to sign Todd Pinkston and whichever is worse/most-overrated of Lito Sheppard and Sheldon Brown, and we'll be all set!

[BaltimoreTerp]

I don't think Boller winning the job this year makes anything "moot".

If the organization thinks McNabb is the better answer out of all 3 QBs, they would pick him up. Just because Boller is at the helm at the time wouldn't mean they wouldn't try and upgrade the position if needed.

I believe he's saying that Boller will do well enough so that we won't need to pick up McNabb.

[AgentOrange]

I believe he's saying that Boller will do well enough so that we won't need to pick up McNabb.

Well he needs to put more words in his sentance.

I don't think Boller even plays enough to prove that he is going to do well enough. Hell, he might not even play this week if McNair proves he is healthy.

[BaltimoreTerp]

Well he needs to put more words in his sentance.

I don't think Boller even plays enough to prove that he is going to do well enough. Hell, he might not even play this week if McNair proves he is healthy.

...which would be stupid.

[AgentOrange]

...which would be stupid.

... in your opinion.

[Birds of B'more]

The 2008 Draft should be excellent for QBs. Five, maybe as many as six, are considered first round talents. The Ravens should look at getting their QB of the future there.

And I agree with some of the earlier sentiments on this thread. McNabb = McNair.

[helloharv]

The 2008 Draft should be excellent for QBs. Five, maybe as many as six, are considered first round talents. The Ravens should look at getting their QB of the future there.

And I agree with some of the earlier sentiments on this thread. McNabb = McNair.

If we draft a QB in the 1st round. Who starts in 08 or even 09 while that QB takes a year or two to get ready?

[Mackus]

If we draft a QB in the 1st round. Who starts in 08 or even 09 while that QB takes a year or two to get ready?Kyle Boller.

[MikeAD]

If we draft a QB in the 1st round. Who starts in 08 or even 09 while that QB takes a year or two to get ready?

Whats Brian St. Pierre doing these days?

[helloharv]

Kyle Boller.

I am not a Boller basher or a Boller lover. I think he is one of the best backps in the NFL and I am happy we have him. I am just not sold on him to be our everyday QB for an entire season when we are trying to win a Super Bowl.

[biggsy]

If we somehow acquired McNabb I can't say I'd be upset, but I wouldn't be happy either. As stated, he's old, and he hasn't finished the season the past three years due to injury. He'd be a step up from McNair at this point just because he has the arm strength and ability to throw a nice deep ball.

This year isn't all McNabbs fault either. I see certain people are bashing him over this year, but those same people are the ones wanting to give Boller a pass for not having any solid pass catching options or a great supporting cast. His WR's rarely beat a jam at the line and very rarely get seperation downfield. Last year before his knee injury McNabb's play was arguably the best in the NFL for a QB. This year he is less then a year removed from a major knee injury that usually takes 2 years to fully heal.

A McNabb signing would be a high risk high reward kind of signing but in the end it might be worth it. IMO he would be better then any option we got on the team right now.

As well known, I'm not sold on Boller as the everyday QB. I think he is a great back-up/spot starter. But as an everyday starter he just isn't good enough. People are all over his arm strength but you still gotta be accurate on your deep ball to be effective and he's only accurate on 1 out of every 10 he throws. Not to mention I still don't feel he can consistantly lead a game winning drive.
Newmarketsean tried to prove me wrong in a previous thread on this and it got locked before I could respond but I'd like to point out, in the NYJ game in 2004, It was actually Quincy Carter who led the Jets down the field in the final 2 minutes to tie the game and send it to overtime. In OT Boller was given Great field position getting the ball on the Jets 32 yard line in which case the ball was ran 7 times and the game winning FG was kicked.
In the Pitt. game in 2005 you mentioned, the last score in regulation was by Willie Parker with 10:00 mins left. In OT Mr. Boller was again given the ball in great field position at the 44 and the "drive" contained 5 runs and 4 passes, 2 in which were incomplete followed by a Stover 44 yard field goal.
In fact the HOU game is the only one you mentioned that holds any water at all.

So I stand corrected, unless Boller is given the ball already in field goal range he very rarely will lead a game winning drive within the LAST 2 minutes of a game.

[Old#5fan]

Well he needs to put more words in his sentance.

I don't think Boller even plays enough to prove that he is going to do well enough. Hell, he might not even play this week if McNair proves he is healthy.

In 37 starts Boller has won a whopping two road games against teams over 500 and people want him to be handed the starting job again based on what?:rolleyes: :confused: As far as McNabb, his accuracy concerns me. We need a QB who not only has a strong arm but is accurate. We don't need another strong but scatterarmed QB as a starter or a backup. I will take an accurate guy throwing deep like McNair anyday over a stronger armed Boller who can't consistently put the ball on the money or even where it should be caught.

[NewMarketSean]

In 37 starts Boller has won a whopping two road games against teams over 500 and people want him to be handed the starting job again based on what?:rolleyes: :confused: As far as McNabb, his accuracy concerns me. We need a QB who not only has a strong arm but is accurate. We don't need another strong but scatterarmed QB as a starter or a backup. I will take an accurate guy throwing deep like McNair anyday over a stronger armed Boller who can't consistently put the ball on the money or even where it should be caught.

Erik Bedard went 6-10 his first full season in the majors. Should we have not given him another chance?

Boller bashers have an unfortunate habit of living in the past.

[Old#5fan]

Erik Bedard went 6-10 his first full season in the majors. Should we have not given him another chance?

Boller bashers have an unfortunate habit of living in the past.

Boller had three seasons as a starter and is now in his fifth overall season. He has had more chances than most young quarterbacks and has failed to live up to his so-called potential, which I happen to believe was totally over-rated to begin with.

[NewMarketSean]

Boller had three seasons as a starter and is now in his fifth overall season. He has had more chances than most young quarterbacks and has failed to live up to his so-called potential, which I happen to believe was totally over-rated to begin with.

Too bad your you, because he's going to get some more chances this year when McNair is hurt or under-performing and next year too, when McNair is gone.

[biggsy]

Too bad your you, because he's going to get some more chances this year when McNair is hurt or under-performing and next year too, when McNair is gone.

He'll get his chances this year. I think more due to injury to McNair then under-performance. As far as next year I'm not sure. We'll have to see how the offseason plays out. As of right now I'm worried Suggs asking price is too much and someone (probably the Browns) will come in and overpay and steal him away. Then at that point, if there happens to be better QB options out there, say a McNabb, I honestly feel like Ozzie might take the risk with him or any other better options instead of putting the hopes of the team completely back on Bollers shoulders again.

[NewMarketSean]

I believe, unless Boller comes in and plays poorly when called upon this season, he will be given the starter's job next year with a legit back-up option brought in as insurance.

[biggsy]

I believe, unless Boller comes in and plays poorly when called upon this season, he will be given the starter's job next year with a legit back-up option brought in as insurance.

As I said, it depends on the options out there. As of right now it looks like McNabb may be the only real legit target that is a better option the Boller at this point.

[helloharv]

Some people were saying McNabb was washed up :rolleyes: Tell me when the last time McNair had a day like McNabb did yesterday.

[NewMarketSean]

I think there is an overwhelming amount of people saying McNair is washed up.

Some people here were just starting to ask the question, is McNabb washed up?

BIG difference.

[The Wedge]

I think there is an overwhelming amount of people saying McNair is washed up.

Some people here were just starting to ask the question, is McNabb washed up?

BIG difference.

I don't even think he's (McNair) is washed up just yet. I think he's obviously on the downward curve of his career now. He had a solid game yesterday, but that wasn't Air McNair, either. That was dink and dunk ball control McNair.

[helloharv]

I think there is an overwhelming amount of people saying McNair is washed up.

Some people here were just starting to ask the question, is McNabb washed up?

BIG difference.

I guess what I was saying is.... McNair doesn't seem to have it in him anymore to use our weapons on offense.... McNabb could use our WR MUCH BETTER

[MikeAD]

I guess what I was saying is.... McNair doesn't seem to have it in him anymore to use our weapons on offense.... McNabb could use our WR MUCH BETTER

At the risk of sounding like a fool, all McNabb does is run short passes (which are terribly not accurate) and throw the ball downfield to a huddle of 2-3 WRs and deffensive backs. It's like watchign a High School game half of the time. I know he has had some great games, and Im exaggerating a bit, but the AFC North is full of defensive backs that would love to pick off 2-3 long passes a game from Mr. McNabb. Yes we have speed in Williams and maybe in the future Figurs, but our game is not about that type of passing. Yes, we SHOULD be using the long ball more, but I don't want to see it. We have to many weapons in Heap and Mason etc. that we need accurate an short game, not just a hurler.

Further, McGahee is a great back, but hes not Westbrook. If you take out Philly's RBs, McNabbs game goes away significantly. McNaab has the luxury of beign able to lob a screen off at the last second and get a big gain from Westrbook, on the chance that he can't just hurl it down the field and hope his WR's gets a jumpball.

I know thats a terrible analysis, especially after McNabb's game yesterday, but what the hell, I never make good claims anyway around here.