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gallden
09-21-2007, 08:03 PM
Anybody going to be watching next Sundsay I think it is.
Mackus
09-24-2007, 05:34 AM
I watched the first season of this online (mostly on back-to-back night shifts at work, which probably made me enjoy it more). Ended up getting Showtime solely to watch the second season, can't wait for it to start. One of my coworkers downloaded a couple of the 2nd season episodes that got leaked onto the internet, said its really good.
Spoonless
09-24-2007, 11:46 PM
I watched the first season of this online (mostly on back-to-back night shifts at work, which probably made me enjoy it more). Ended up getting Showtime solely to watch the second season, can't wait for it to start. One of my coworkers downloaded a couple of the 2nd season episodes that got leaked onto the internet, said its really good.
You should check out Brotherhood which shows either before or after Dexter. Nothing groundbreaking, but a pretty solid show.
gallden
09-30-2007, 10:57 PM
Well what'd everybody think. I thought it was pretty interesting the season preview looked awesome.
The Wedge
09-30-2007, 11:02 PM
I thought it was pretty good. And yes, the preview looked awesome, indeed.
PaulFolk
10-01-2007, 11:07 AM
Excellent first episode. I was wondering whether the show might lose some steam with the Ice Truck Killer no longer around as a nemesis, but this episode was great. Great twist, finding the bodies from Dexter's previous killings-- I can't wait to see where this storyline goes.
DoobyDoo
10-01-2007, 11:33 AM
I liked it. Dexter is a great show, but I think it kind of drags a little when it focuses on the secondary characters. I like his sister and girlfriend, and I feel they're necessary to the show, but I couldn't care less about any of the other characters. I really think they should cut down on Laguerta's screen time. She's the least interesting character on the show.
The Wedge
10-01-2007, 11:41 AM
Well, if they had held with the source material, (SPOILER FOR THE BOOK!) LaGuerta wouldn't be around (and Brian/Rudy/ITK would still be alive). (END BOOK SPOILER) But you can't have Deb's story arc without LaGuerta or a person exactly like her (a piss poor cop but a great ass kisser), unfortunately. And you gotta have Doakes. That's gonna be a great subplot throughout this season.
Harford Bird
10-01-2007, 11:47 AM
Ended up getting Showtime solely to watch the second season, can't wait for it to start.
Same here. Fortunately Comcast gave me an awesome package deal.
DoobyDoo
10-01-2007, 02:15 PM
Well, if they had held with the source material, (SPOILER FOR THE BOOK!) LaGuerta wouldn't be around (and Brian/Rudy/ITK would still be alive). (END BOOK SPOILER) But you can't have Deb's story arc without LaGuerta or a person exactly like her (a piss poor cop but a great ass kisser), unfortunately. And you gotta have Doakes. That's gonna be a great subplot throughout this season.
How faithful has the show been so far to the books? That certainly sounds like a big difference.
The Wedge
10-01-2007, 02:35 PM
How faithful has the show been so far to the books? That certainly sounds like a big difference.
Well, let's see. I'll spoiler these for those that want to read the books, though I've only read Darkly Dreaming Dexter thus far. The one major difference is length, so many of the subplots aren't there.
LaGuerta clearly has a crush on Dexter and tries to get in his pants at one point.
There is WAY less with Rita. No ex-husband subplot. Only two or three scenes with her period. Just enough to show that Dexter is trying to "play normal."
Brian/ITK doesn't become "Rudy" and date Deb in the book.
Dexter refers to his sociopathic side as The Dark Passenger. He has to soothe The Dark Passenger around once a month in order to function properly.
Doakes doesn't have a side story, he's just a thorn in Dexter's side.
Dexter gets "creepy vibes" from Vince, and actually wonders if they aren't alike in that regard.
Angel isn't a detective, he's a medical examiner. No subplot about his family.
LaGuerta is much more of a bungler in the book. She is portrayed as having risen in ranks by ass kissing and not police work. This is there more to give Deb grief since Deb is truly Harry's daughter, and is blunt and a hard worker...but she relies on Dexter way too much to help her undermine LaGuerta.
LaGuerta is killed in the final altercation (I can't remember how exactly, Dexter may have actually killed her to protect Brian, or maybe Brian killed her...) and Dexter lets Brian escape instead of killing him.
tywright
10-04-2007, 04:52 PM
Well, if they had held with the source material, (SPOILER FOR THE BOOK!) LaGuerta wouldn't be around (and Brian/Rudy/ITK would still be alive). (END BOOK SPOILER) But you can't have Deb's story arc without LaGuerta or a person exactly like her (a piss poor cop but a great ass kisser), unfortunately. And you gotta have Doakes. That's gonna be a great subplot throughout this season.
You gotta love Doakes
The Wedge
10-14-2007, 09:55 PM
Oh, man, when Dexter realized that Doakes finding him at the NA meeting was probably the best possible scenerio for him, and he started clapping...that was awesome.
Gurgi
11-01-2007, 05:23 PM
I got a library book on CD of the third story of Dexter. If any story is perfect for listening on CD it is the Dexter books. They read simple but are easy to listen to. The beginning is just weird as it tries to explain the whole history of the dark passenger. I was laughing a little. Still it is quite good and takes my mind off of being bored as I drive. Funny now I find myself parking and not wanting to get out of the car. I sit and listen for ten minutes more.
CrimsonTribe
11-01-2007, 11:15 PM
I just finished watching the first season on DVD via Netflix and was impressed. Unfortunately campus cable doesn't have Showtime, so I have to wait for the second season DVDs to come out, which really really sucks.
The Wedge
11-13-2007, 12:40 PM
Wow. The way Dexter set up Doakes throughout the episode, culminating in getting Doakes to (appear to anyway) attack him in front of everyone without provocation was brilliant.
But I'm seeing a pattern here as far as that story line goes: Doakes always underestimates Dexter...Dexter is now underestimating Lundy (the manifesto blunder).
Mackus
11-13-2007, 12:49 PM
I wish Lila wasn't crazy, but its kind of interesting that neither her nor Dexter's addiction is to a substance.
Gurgi
11-13-2007, 01:40 PM
It is becoming obvious that Dexter is gonna have to kill Lila at some point. She is gonna threaten the kids or Rita in a fit of rage and he will have to put her down like a dog. I think she will turn out to be a pyromanic that has killed many people and that will be Dexters excuse to use the Harry Code.
Mackus
11-13-2007, 02:37 PM
I think its pretty obvious that her addiction is arson, not meth as she said before at the dinner at Rita's.
I've been thinking that Dexter would have to kill Doakes before the season is out, but having to take out Lila is an interesting idea as well. I also think that Deb is going to find out about him by the end of the season and have to choose between telling Lundy or not.
tywright
11-13-2007, 03:00 PM
It is becoming obvious that Dexter is gonna have to kill Lila at some point. She is gonna threaten the kids or Rita in a fit of rage and he will have to put her down like a dog. I think she will turn out to be a pyromanic that has killed many people and that will be Dexters excuse to use the Harry Code.
Yeah but that would make Dexter a potential suspect. Notice he's never killed anybody, except his brother, that had any direct ties to him.
tywright
11-13-2007, 03:06 PM
Wow. The way Dexter set up Doakes throughout the episode, culminating in getting Doakes to (appear to anyway) attack him in front of everyone without provocation was brilliant.
But I'm seeing a pattern here as far as that story line goes: Doakes always underestimates Dexter...Dexter is now underestimating Lundy (the manifesto blunder).
Only problem about getting Doakes in trouble is that now Doakes has all the time in the world to tail Dexter.
Gurgi
11-13-2007, 03:47 PM
Yeah this is getting good.
I have only read the third book of the Dexter series. I also cheated and just read the ending of the first book. The TV series is already not sticking to the books completely.
One of the biggest things is the kids. They are suppossed to be more sullen and in the third book they are serial killer wanna be's. Dexter even starts training the kids in the Harry method. This season the kids seem just too cheerful. I think the writers arent gonna go there.
If they ever come back from strike.
gallden
11-13-2007, 04:46 PM
So i guess the Dexter writers are on strike as well?
Gurgi
11-13-2007, 04:49 PM
Im sure all the Dexter shows are finished for this season so no harm will come.
It may delay a next season if Showtime was planning one. Which I think they would be.
The Wedge
11-13-2007, 05:04 PM
Only problem about getting Doakes in trouble is that now Doakes has all the time in the world to tail Dexter.
Except that if he even SNIFFS Doakes on his backside he can get him arrested.
Also, technically Dexter's first murder was tied to him. Harry's nurse.
DoobyDoo
11-18-2007, 11:42 PM
I loved tonight's episode. I'm eagerly awaiting next Sunday to see what the hell happens after everything that happened in tonight's episode.
gallden
11-19-2007, 12:05 AM
I really don't like how they don't have the friggin next week on Dexter anymore. Its getting pretty crazy, I can't belive they are getting this good so early on in the season.. Is it due to the writers strike? Gurgi assures me it isn't and I hope he's right.
The Wedge
11-19-2007, 09:43 AM
I really don't like how they don't have the friggin next week on Dexter anymore. Its getting pretty crazy, I can't belive they are getting this good so early on in the season.. Is it due to the writers strike? Gurgi assures me it isn't and I hope he's right.
You can catch some previews and preview scenes on showtime.com.
Gurgi
11-19-2007, 10:10 AM
Who thinks Lila is gonna get dead now? Shes gonna mess with the kids and get dead.
I think Dexter will somehow frame Doakes for the Bay Harbor Butcher Murders. Or somebody will think he did it. Something must end the season with the the Feds thinking the case is closed. How can it be closed unless they think they have their man? If they think they have their man they must have a straw man. Who could look guilty? And who now has the blood evidence? Doakes. Doakes is going down for Serial Murder!
I know nothing. I am guessing all of this so we will have to see.
The Wedge
11-19-2007, 10:18 AM
Who thinks Lila is gonna get dead now? Shes gonna mess with the kids and get dead.
I think Dexter will somehow frame Doakes for the Bay Harbor Butcher Murders. Or somebody will think he did it. Something must end the season with the the Feds thinking the case is closed. How can it be closed unless they think they have their man? If they think they have their man they must have a straw man. Who could look guilty? And who now has the blood evidence? Doakes. Doakes is going down for Serial Murder!
I know nothing. I am guessing all of this so we will have to see.
I think Lila does do something massively stupid to put her on Dexter's Dark Passenger radar. And I think he's gonna figure out that she actually killed her old boyfriend, it was a deliberately lit fire meant to kill him...and that will satisfy his code in that respect.
As for Doakes, I've been saying all season that he's gonna be a prime suspect for the BHB...but ultimately, he's going to be cleared because he's way too impulsive and explosive. Doesn't fit the BHB's MO of methodical caution.
tywright
11-19-2007, 02:01 PM
I think Lila does do something massively stupid to put her on Dexter's Dark Passenger radar. And I think he's gonna figure out that she actually killed her old boyfriend, it was a deliberately lit fire meant to kill him...and that will satisfy his code in that respect.
As for Doakes, I've been saying all season that he's gonna be a prime suspect for the BHB...but ultimately, he's going to be cleared because he's way too impulsive and explosive. Doesn't fit the BHB's MO of methodical caution.
Lila is going to torch Dexter's apartment, which will destroy the blood sample collection and kill any hope of Doakes outing Dex.
The Wedge
11-19-2007, 09:38 PM
Lila is going to torch Dexter's apartment, which will destroy the blood sample collection and kill any hope of Doakes outing Dex.
Seems too simple for Dexter (the show) for me. I think Doakes is going to put the knowledge of those slides in his back pocket.
Gurgi
11-22-2007, 02:22 PM
I think Doakes will keep the slides himself. He isnt a cop anymore. I dont think his first instict is to try to turn Dexter in.
Thats why I think something might happen and Deb kills Doakes for some reason and they find the blood samples in Doakes house. Thus Doakes cant talk anymore and they think they have their killer.
Something like this is the only way out I can think of.
Gurgi
11-22-2007, 02:24 PM
Combine that with some stuff they might find out about Doakes and his time in the special forces. And he might come across as a very likely suspect.
The Wedge
11-25-2007, 11:48 PM
Combine that with some stuff they might find out about Doakes and his time in the special forces. And he might come across as a very likely suspect.
Likely, and prime.
Two words: Holy. Crap.
Elon Os Fan
11-25-2007, 11:49 PM
This show looks crazy next week! Dokes is really going to get it!!!
gallden
11-26-2007, 12:36 AM
Man, I like Doakes alot to. I'm a kind of torn but I reckon without Dextah, there would be no show.
The Wedge
11-26-2007, 12:58 AM
Man, I like Doakes alot to. I'm a kind of torn but I reckon without Dextah, there would be no show.
Well, maybe there'll be a second book like ending to this.
Spoilers:
In the second book, the serial killer Dr Danco pretty much makes a meat puppet out of Doakes. He lives, but he's not much of a man anymore, if you know what I mean.
gallden
11-26-2007, 02:44 AM
Well, maybe there'll be a second book like ending to this.
Spoilers:
In the second book, the serial killer Dr Danco pretty much makes a meat puppet out of Doakes. He lives, but he's not much of a man anymore, if you know what I mean.
What?! There are only 3 episodes left. When may this happen?
The Wedge
11-26-2007, 10:38 AM
I'm not saying that's exactly what is going to happen, but the books set the precedent of Doakes fate, so it may try to get close to it. The second book also has Deb hooking up with a federal agent, but he's nothing like Lundy.
Gurgi
11-26-2007, 11:52 AM
This guessing is a great deal of fun. I've gotten close but still havent hit a bullseye yet. They keep changing it up just enough to be very, very interesting.
tywright
11-26-2007, 11:59 AM
Watch out for Haitians
gallden
12-04-2007, 09:54 PM
I never thought I'd say this but I'm currently pulling for Doakes.
The Wedge
12-04-2007, 10:16 PM
Unfortunately for him the show isn't called Doakes.
gallden
12-04-2007, 10:57 PM
Unfortunately for him the show isn't called Doakes.
Wouldn't that be funny.
Gurgi
12-05-2007, 06:55 PM
What do you think happens? Lila kills Doakes? Somehow Doakes has to die this season. You cant have him arrested and talking crap about Dexter being the real killer.
Maybe Lila kills Doakes then Dexter can kill her because she is now a murder? I dont know what is gonna happen. Its all so different than the books.
The Wedge
12-05-2007, 09:18 PM
What do you think happens? Lila kills Doakes? Somehow Doakes has to die this season. You cant have him arrested and talking crap about Dexter being the real killer.
Maybe Lila kills Doakes then Dexter can kill her because she is now a murder? I dont know what is gonna happen. Its all so different than the books.
I think that's exactly what's gonna go down. From the previews, we see that Lila finds her way to the cabin, AND Doakes finds a way out of his cage. If those two coincide, crazy ass Lila would probably kill him "for Dexter."
Harford Bird
12-06-2007, 11:58 AM
The final two episodes of the season leaked online, and I must say that they're quite excellent; the season has a pretty satisfying, albeit somewhat sad, conclusion.
The Wedge
12-09-2007, 10:58 PM
I think that's exactly what's gonna go down. From the previews, we see that Lila finds her way to the cabin, AND Doakes finds a way out of his cage. If those two coincide, crazy ass Lila would probably kill him "for Dexter."
Now that we're one episode left and we've seen those previews, I'd say this is exactly what happens. Doakes has to die for the show to continue. The case against him as the BHB is unraveling, but if he dies, that asshole D.D. will close the case, I'm sure. If Doakes were to live, it'd go to trial, all the while with him shouting that it's Dexter. Lundy would clear him (along with LaGuerta) and as soon as he was acquitted the rap would crash down on Dexter.
Gurgi
12-09-2007, 11:57 PM
Just saw the second to last show. Getting awfully wild.
I think he will find out next season that his dad didnt kill himself. I think his old partner killed his father or something like that. He said "I made sure the autopsy didnt see the light of day" murder is also a reason to bury an autopsy.
Also his father trained him for years and years. Do you really think he would kill himself because he saw Dexter chopping up a person? He found Dexters mom chopped up. He was a long term cop and saw murders everyday. He had found Dexter chopping up animals. He knew what was up.
My wife thinks maybe the old partner was in with the drug dealers in Miami. Maybe he was the reason the charges were dropped on the birthday of deb and the glass throwing event. Maybe the old partner was taking bribes. Maybe Dexters dad was gonna tell or expose him.
gallden
12-10-2007, 12:55 AM
For some reason I am still rooting against the 'serial killer' I'm with you guys that Doakes has gotta get dead for the show to go on. I thought that when they were digging this stuff up on Lila that she wasn't going to be from Seattle or something like that. She's been annoying since the first couple of episodes to me.
Gurgi
12-16-2007, 02:40 PM
The end of Dexter's 2nd season is tonight! What is gonna happen!
gallden
12-16-2007, 10:56 PM
Well all in all I was rather let down by this. I was expecting way more of a cliffhanger. Last week IMO was far better than this week. Maybe the writers went on strike before they wrote the last episode. What happens in the book Wedgie?
The Wedge
12-16-2007, 11:06 PM
Well all in all I was rather let down by this. I was expecting way more of a cliffhanger. Last week IMO was far better than this week. Maybe the writers went on strike before they wrote the last episode. What happens in the book Wedgie?
One, don't call me Wedgie. :D
Two, it doesn't really matter since it doesn't follow the same over all plot. The book deals with another serial killer hitting Miami named Dr. Danco, who basically makes his victims in to meat sacks. Still living, but he cuts off their limbs and cuts out their tongue and stuff like that. Doakes knows of him from his Special Forces time, and the government sends down an agency man named Chutsky who was also Special Forces with Doakes to help track him.
gallden
12-16-2007, 11:12 PM
They didn't even give us a 'you won't belive what happens next season on dexter' come on tease us a little. Just Dexter will be back.
The Wedge
12-16-2007, 11:16 PM
They didn't even give us a 'you won't belive what happens next season on dexter' come on tease us a little. Just Dexter will be back.
Well, that's because they haven't filmed anything yet. They were kind of rolling the dice saying he'd be back in 2008. Because they got this season finished (writing wise) before the strike, but they obviously haven't got anything on next season.
Gurgi
12-16-2007, 11:27 PM
Yeah I was slightly let down on this one also. They had a great season but let a little slip away at the end. I had figured he would kill Lila. I figured she was gonna kill Doakes.
Real glad that Debbie and the FBI guys are probally ending the relationship. Never thought they had chemistry together. They looked real weird in the kissing scenes.
I still also think Dex will find out next season his dad did NOT kill his self.
DoobyDoo
12-17-2007, 12:07 AM
I wasn't disappointed at all by tonight's episode. It was one of the crazier episodes of Dexter yet, but I loved every second of it.
gallden
12-17-2007, 05:23 PM
Yeah I was slightly let down on this one also. They had a great season but let a little slip away at the end. I had figured he would kill Lila. I figured she was gonna kill Doakes.
Real glad that Debbie and the FBI guys are probally ending the relationship. Never thought they had chemistry together. They looked real weird in the kissing scenes.
I still also think Dex will find out next season his dad did NOT kill his self.
I think it was kind of like watching my parents kiss. And then when Lundys butt was on :eek:
tywright
12-17-2007, 05:44 PM
During the scene at the acquarium, was everybody saying to themselves, "What the hell are you thinking Dex?"
DoobyDoo
12-17-2007, 05:46 PM
During the scene at the acquarium, was everybody saying to themselves, "What the hell are you thinking Dex?"
At first, but then I realized what he was doing.
The Wedge
12-17-2007, 06:12 PM
Yeah, I figured there was no way he did a complete one eighty like that, especially after just having spent some "quality time" with Rita.
Gurgi
12-17-2007, 06:23 PM
I heard the author of the Books is real happy with the dramatic changes they have made to the Dexter character. Heard he was against Mr. Hall taking the roll because he had played a gay man in "Six feet under" and it was hard to imagine him as Dexter. Then he saw a test run and thought "Wow its perfect". Heard the author joked in an interview he was thinking about calling Mr. Hall up on the phone and asking him what the character would think and do in his next book.(number 4)
The author says he often has nightmares because getting into the mind of a serial killer is a dark place.
Art Wing
12-20-2007, 02:40 AM
Well all in all I was rather let down by this. I was expecting way more of a cliffhanger. Last week IMO was far better than this week. Maybe the writers went on strike before they wrote the last episode. What happens in the book Wedgie?
I was let down as well. I love the show and I'm hooked, but the last two episodes changed the dynamic for me completely.
The Wedge
12-20-2007, 10:04 AM
I was let down as well. I love the show and I'm hooked, but the last two episodes changed the dynamic for me completely.
That's kinda what they were aiming for, you know. For one, he wasn't "himself" for most of this season, and he finally got that back by the end...with a twist of having his faith in Harry completely shaken, so now he's flying with out Harry's Code. Like he said, he's no longer preoccupied with whether he's good or evil anymore.