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1. Pats(1) 4-0
2. Colts(2) 4-0
3. Cowboys(3) 4-0
4. Packers(5) 4-0
5. Seahawks(10)3-1
6. Titans(7) 2-1
7. Steelers(4) 3-1
8. Jags(8) 2-1
9. Bucs(16) 3-1
10. Lions(19) 3-1
11. Browns(25) 2-2
12. Ravens(6) 2-2
13. Redskins(12) 2-1
14. Cards(20) 2-2
15. Broncos(15) 2-2
16. Giants(22) 2-2
17. Raiders(24) 2-2
18. Texans(11) 2-2
19. Chiefs(26) 2-2
20. Panthers(14) 2-2
21. Chargers(1-3)
22. Eagles(13) 1-3
23. 49ers(18) 2-2
24. Bears(17) 1-3
25. Bengals(21) 1-3
26. Falcons(32) 1-3
27. Vikings(27) 1-3
28. Saints(28) 0-3
29. Bills(31) 1-3
30. Jets(23) 1-3
31. Dolphins(29) 0-4
32. Rams(30) 0-4
Notes:
- Top 3 teams still extremely impressive, but Pats are in league of their own.
- Packers and Titans are still teams that are somewhat questionable going forward, but I don't see how they could be much lower than that.
- Still would like to see the Steelers beat a decent team before thinking of them as elite.
- Same with the Bucs, the Panthers win is ok, but no Delhomme takes away from it.
- Lions and Browns probably aren't that good, especially the Browns, but they have looked quite good since starting Anderson, a blocked FG away from winning their last 3.
- Giants D looks much better, props to Gesh on them.
- Raiders actually do look pretty good, and Culpepper had a very strong debut. The key for them is the running game has been much improved.
- If you're wondering why the Panthers and 49ers are low for being 2-2, just look at who've they played and the results of those games, very underwhelming.
- Chargers, Eagles, Bears, and Bengals better step it asap, the coaching with the Chargers seems to be the problem, the injuries are really hurting the Eagles, but McNabb hasn't looked good other than the Lions game, the Bears have some injury issues on defense, and they should have kept Jones, the Bengals D just isn't good enough. I'm ready to count out the Bengals, don't think the Bears will make the playoffs, the Eagles probably won't, but might step it up once they get some key guys back, the Chargers are most likely to bounce back.
longflyball
10-02-2007, 01:42 AM
Is that 3 NFC teams I see in the top 5? :eek:
The world has turned upside down.
I'm not going to argue with your list. This league is so screwy you can just as well pick names out of a hat to come up with an accurate Power Ranking.
AgentOrange
10-02-2007, 07:32 AM
I think the Browns are a little too high. They do have 2 pretty nice wins, but I think the reason they have the wins is from divisional games. They know both teams really well that they beat and I think that is what gave them a chance to win those. I am still not sold on the running game and the defense. A lot better than I thought they would do though, I will give them that.
I think the Chargers problems are going a little further than the coaching staff. I think the Defense has really let them down this year, same with the Ravens. Both D's are no where close to the form they showed last year. There is time to turn it around, but it needs to happen soon for both teams or the season will slip away.
The Cards are a hard team to rank. I think they are top 10 if Warner is QB and I think they are 18-22 if Leinart is the QB. Very impressive game played by both teams (Steelers as well). Very fun to watch, I think the Cards have a good chance at the playoffs.
I would even put the 49ers down in the bottom 5 if Dilfer is the QB for the near future. He looked old and lost out there, it was really a shame.
I think the Seahawks benefited from playing the 49ers last week, Dilfer looked so lost that it make Seattle look like the Pats.
Very impressed with the Pats and the Colts. I don't see them getting worse at all this season. I wonder how serious the injury is to Harrison, but I think they could even overcome that. The Pats are even playing without Seymour and Harrison. That is pretty scary.
I would like to see more from the Titans, they looked pretty solid last monday but they played the Aint's, which is upsetting they are playing so poorly. But I think the AFC North and South are the hardest confrences in the game this year.
Very good season so far, a lot of parity.
geschinger
10-02-2007, 09:21 AM
The Patriots and Cowboys have been incredible so far but just how far they've separated themselves from their respective conferences remains to be seen. Both have had cupcake schedules to this point. The teams that both NE and Dallas have beaten are a combined 3-13 on the season. I'm really looking forward to their matchup in a couple of weeks.
The Colts are about where I'd expect them to be. I wouldn't anticipate the injuries to Sanders, Harrison or Addai to make them miss any time. If they do they'll have to find a way to beat a pretty good Bucs team w/o 'em and then they'll have a bye week to recover.
I too think you may have the Browns too high. We'll get to see how far they've come or more likely how far they have to go this weekend.
glenn__davis
10-02-2007, 12:17 PM
Every week I expect to see the Vikings at the bottom spot, considering how lousy I think they are. Then I look and see the teams below them and realize that there are some really lousy teams in the league this year.
I think the Browns are a little too high. They do have 2 pretty nice wins, but I think the reason they have the wins is from divisional games. They know both teams really well that they beat and I think that is what gave them a chance to win those. I am still not sold on the running game and the defense. A lot better than I thought they would do though, I will give them that.
I think the Chargers problems are going a little further than the coaching staff. I think the Defense has really let them down this year, same with the Ravens. Both D's are no where close to the form they showed last year. There is time to turn it around, but it needs to happen soon for both teams or the season will slip away.
The Cards are a hard team to rank. I think they are top 10 if Warner is QB and I think they are 18-22 if Leinart is the QB. Very impressive game played by both teams (Steelers as well). Very fun to watch, I think the Cards have a good chance at the playoffs.
I would even put the 49ers down in the bottom 5 if Dilfer is the QB for the near future. He looked old and lost out there, it was really a shame.
I think the Seahawks benefited from playing the 49ers last week, Dilfer looked so lost that it make Seattle look like the Pats.
Very impressed with the Pats and the Colts. I don't see them getting worse at all this season. I wonder how serious the injury is to Harrison, but I think they could even overcome that. The Pats are even playing without Seymour and Harrison. That is pretty scary.
I would like to see more from the Titans, they looked pretty solid last monday but they played the Aint's, which is upsetting they are playing so poorly. But I think the AFC North and South are the hardest confrences in the game this year.
Very good season so far, a lot of parity.
Well like I said, the Browns probably aren't that good, but are playing pretty well since Anderson started, and I couldn't put them behind the Ravens due to their easy win over them. Plus, the Browns were a blocked FG away from winning in Oakland, who I actually think is pretty solid.
ccbird
10-02-2007, 11:06 PM
Well like I said, the Browns probably aren't that good, but are playing pretty well since Anderson started, and I couldn't put them behind the Ravens due to their easy win over them. Plus, the Browns were a blocked FG away from winning in Oakland, who I actually think is pretty solid.
Probably aren't that good. Geez, you think. They are still probably the worst 2-2 team besides KC, SF and maybe Hou. I mean I can see you putting them ahead of Baltimore though we both know which team is better but not Ari, Washington or even Denver.
If Jacksonville can be as unimpressive a 2-1 team as they have been and be number 8 than Washington at 2-1 should be ahead of all the 2-2 teams. Especially now that the Giants loss doesn't look quite as bad. Really besides Washington 2-3 spots too low and Cleveland 3-4 spots too high I think you pretty much nailed it this week.
Here's ESPN's ratings (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/powerranking?season=2007&week=5).
I have the same top 9 of them except for the Titans and Steelers flip flopped. After that it's pretty different. I think their really overrating the Broncos and Panthers, and really underrating the Browns and Raiders. I just don't get how the Browns can be 25th. I might have the Browns too high, but there's no way they should be that low. They've played quite well since changing QB's, and are a blocked FG away from winning 3 straight.
backwardsk
10-02-2007, 11:25 PM
As low as the Chargers are now (I don't have any problem with where you have them, your list is really good) I still think they'll make the playoffs. The AFC West is that bad.
Probably aren't that good. Geez, you think. They are still probably the worst 2-2 team besides KC, SF and maybe Hou. I mean I can see you putting them ahead of Baltimore though we both know which team is better but not Ari, Washington or even Denver.
If Jacksonville can be as unimpressive a 2-1 team as they have been and be number 8 than Washington at 2-1 should be ahead of all the 2-2 teams. Especially now that the Giants loss doesn't look quite as bad. Really besides Washington 2-3 spots too low and Cleveland 3-4 spots too high I think you pretty much nailed it this week.
You could certainly be more friendly with your first two sentences.
Look, the Browns are playing pretty good ball right now, they just easily beat the Ravens, were a blocked FG away from winning at Oakland, and beat the Bengals in a shootout. As of right now, they're playing better than the Ravens, I think that's rather clear. Do I think they'll be playing better in 4 weeks, or at the end of the year? Probably not, but that's not what this list is about. That aspect is more or less a tiebreaker.
Wow, this is different, a Ravens fan telling me that I'm underrating the Skins, and that they should be above the Ravens.:D I'm happy that the Skins are 2-1 and the D is improved, but it's not like they've been that impressive, nor have they played much of a schedule so far. The Lions game will be a good indicator.
Thanks for the last comment.
As low as the Chargers are now (I don't have any problem with where you have them, your list is really good) I still think they'll make the playoffs. The AFC West is that bad.
Well they better win at Denver sunday, I don't think the Broncos are that good, but going into Denver isn't easy, especially the way the Chargers are playing.
ccbird
10-03-2007, 04:38 AM
You could certainly be more friendly with your first two sentences.
Look, the Browns are playing pretty good ball right now, they just easily beat the Ravens, were a blocked FG away from winning at Oakland, and beat the Bengals in a shootout. As of right now, they're playing better than the Ravens, I think that's rather clear. Do I think they'll be playing better in 4 weeks, or at the end of the year? Probably not, but that's not what this list is about. That aspect is more or less a tiebreaker.
Wow, this is different, a Ravens fan telling me that I'm underrating the Skins, and that they should be above the Ravens.:D I'm happy that the Skins are 2-1 and the D is improved, but it's not like they've been that impressive, nor have they played much of a schedule so far. The Lions game will be a good indicator.
Thanks for the last comment.
I'm just ribbing you and I know you can dish it too. Nothing funnier than you busting on some fantasy baseball teams earlier this year.
The Browns are still too high. We both know they probably end up at the bottom of the division with no more than 6-7 wins. I mean you do a good job of not just rating teams on record but factoring in overall talent, strenth of wins, strenth of losses, etc. I mean I understand them in the middle of the pack and they are definitely higher than the 25 ESPN has them but 12 is just 3 or 4 spots too high.
I'll be blunt,I don't like the Skins. I never really did as a kid with no team but when JKC tried to push them on Baltimore and helped block the expansion bid it made it pretty much hate. That said I try to be as objective as possible in pretty much anything I do. I simply believe that they are 2-1 with their loss not being that bad and talented enough and good enough to be for real and a playoff caliber team. IMO, thats enough to be ahead of the 2-2 teams at this point.
backwardsk
10-03-2007, 11:30 AM
Well they better win at Denver sunday, I don't think the Broncos are that good, but going into Denver isn't easy, especially the way the Chargers are playing.
Agreed with the Denver assessment. While digging themselves a hole at 1-4 would be tough, I don't see any team running away with the division. The winner of the division could end up with only 9 or 10 wins.
longflyball
10-03-2007, 01:36 PM
Well they better win at Denver sunday, I don't think the Broncos are that good, but going into Denver isn't easy, especially the way the Chargers are playing.
Denver is a one point favorite at home. That tells you how far the Chargers have fallen.
tywright
10-03-2007, 02:41 PM
Denver is a one point favorite at home. That tells you how far the Chargers have fallen.
That should also tell you how Denver is not regarded favorably. They're at home and are only a 1-point favorite??
longflyball
10-03-2007, 03:17 PM
That should also tell you how Denver is not regarded favorably. They're at home and are only a 1-point favorite??
If you told Mike Shanahan or anyone else at the beginning of the season Denver would be favored in this game they shouldn't have believed you. San Diego is a divisional opponent and went 14-2 last year. That takes some of the edge off of their dismal performance this year, at least according to Vegas.
Total domination by the Skins!!!!! Ok, CCBird, they'll be moved up now.;) Impressive win by Pitt as well, I wanted to see beat a solid team, and now I have, so they've established themselves as a legit top 5 team.
backwardsk
10-07-2007, 05:03 PM
Total domination by the Skins!!!!! Ok, CCBird, they'll be moved up now.;) Impressive win by Pitt as well, I wanted to see beat a solid team, and now I have, so they've established themselves as a legit top 5 team.
Great job by Gregg Williams shutting down the Lions offense. Who was that corner back wearing 22? It couldn't have been Rogers.
Andre Carter is playing some great football, you can't say the Skins have no good pass rushers anymore.
bryanman8
10-07-2007, 09:03 PM
Andre Carter is playing some great football, you can't say the Skins have no good pass rushers anymore.
Kudos to Gregg for ignoring all the doubters and not going crazy to try and get a lineman this offseason. It's still something they have to address and I expect they'll use their first round pick next year to get a replacement for Phillip Daniels, but they have plenty of speed and depth on that line.
So much so that Kedric Golston was a healthy scratch today simply because he's in there for run-stopping and they weren't worried about the Lions run game at all. Anthony Montgomery is a physical monster, Griffin is a beast when healthy, and as you mentioned, Carter is really becoming a great pass rusher here. Demetric Evans plays some great football too and Daniels is a fine player when healthy.
Not enough praise can go out to their safety tandem though and how they made sure this offseason to get incredibly fast on D and get rid of most of the old legs. Rocky McIntosh is fast as lightning, and London Fletcher was a great addition. If Sean Taylor keeps playing center field and nabs a few more picks he can easily be a DPOY candidate and Landry DROY.
Sports Guy
10-07-2007, 09:27 PM
The Skins schedule hasn't been that hard as of yet but they have been very impressive nonethless.
The schedule ther rest of the year for them is pretty tough...Buffalo should be an easy win but other than that, they have a tough schedule.
If they get to the playoffs, they will have earned it this year.
Randel El hurt his hammy today, but he's really stepped up as well and proven he's better than just an average #3 WR who is good for trick plays. The Moss/Randel El combo is quite good, now hopefully someone out of Caldwell, Lloyd, McCardell, Thrash can be a good #3.
Well they better win at Denver sunday, I don't think the Broncos are that good, but going into Denver isn't easy, especially the way the Chargers are playing.
Well, like I said, I don't think the Broncos are that good.:D Felt I had them overrated at 15, but was hard to move them down considering who was below them and team records.
Sports Guy
10-07-2007, 11:47 PM
Well, the Bears, Ravens, Steelers and Chargers were able to bounce back from bad losses last week.
GB losses tonight and while they deserve to be high up in the rankings right now, if they don't start running the ball, they won't be high for too much longer.
Well, the Bears, Ravens, Ravens and Chargers were able to bounce back from bad losses last week.
GB losses tonight and while they deserve to be high up in the rankings right now, if they don't start running the ball, they won't be high for too much longer.
Yep, big wins from those teams, although how impressive each team was varies a lot.
GB gave that game away with to's and getting away from their offense in the second half. I think they got screwed on that spot that was challenged as well. Their still a good team, next week will be interesting when the Skins go to Green Bay.
Packers actually did run the ball well tonight, 121 yards on 22 carries. They had 439 yards compared to 285 for the Bears. Like I said, gave that game away.
geschinger
10-08-2007, 12:14 AM
Well, the Bears, Ravens, Steelers and Chargers were able to bounce back from bad losses last week.
GB losses tonight and while they deserve to be high up in the rankings right now, if they don't start running the ball, they won't be high for too much longer.
Getting a 'W' is always important after a tough week but if I'm a Ravens fan or Bears fan I'm still concerned about my team going forward.
Even though they lost big I was impressed by Cleveland today. They moved the ball well against NE but got hurt by several tipped ball interceptions.
The AFC South is mighty impressive - 4-0 today and I believe they are now an amazing 11-1 when playing teams outside the division.
If Dallas takes care of business tommorrow night I'll be looking forward to next week's Cowboys/Patriots match up to see just how good each team is.
Getting a 'W' is always important after a tough week but if I'm a Ravens fan or Bears fan I'm still concerned about my team going forward.
Even though they lost big I was impressed by Cleveland today. They moved the ball well against NE but got hurt by several tipped ball interceptions.
The AFC South is mighty impressive - 4-0 today and I believe they are now an amazing 11-1 when playing teams outside the division.
If Dallas takes care of business tommorrow night I'll be looking forward to next week's Cowboys/Patriots match up to see just how good each team is.
I agree, I still think the Bears are mediocre, and the Ravens look pretty bad, but I like them going forward more.
Sports Guy
10-08-2007, 09:33 AM
Getting a 'W' is always important after a tough week but if I'm a Ravens fan or Bears fan I'm still concerned about my team going forward.
Even though they lost big I was impressed by Cleveland today. They moved the ball well against NE but got hurt by several tipped ball interceptions.
The AFC South is mighty impressive - 4-0 today and I believe they are now an amazing 11-1 when playing teams outside the division.
If Dallas takes care of business tommorrow night I'll be looking forward to next week's Cowboys/Patriots match up to see just how good each team is.
Is it just me or does it seem like you can run the ball on the Pats this year?
geschinger
10-08-2007, 09:48 AM
Is it just me or does it seem like you can run the ball on the Pats this year?
It's hard to tell. A couple of thier wins have been against teams playing with backrup running backs and their offense has been getting them big leads forcing teams to throw more. Next week we should get a better read on just how good New England is.
Update: I read the statement wrong. Right now they look good fine against the run but we'll need to see them against above avg competetion to see how their run defense holds up.
Is it just me or does it seem like you can run the ball on the Pats this year?
Well Seymour has been out, so once he comes back that will make a difference. And their 5th in rushing defense, and tied for 4th in avg per carry, so yeah, likely just you.
Sports Guy
10-08-2007, 12:05 PM
Well Seymour has been out, so once he comes back that will make a difference. And their 5th in rushing defense, and tied for 4th in avg per carry, so yeah, likely just you.
Ok...Hadn't looked at the stats...The last 3 weeks, each team's starting RB has been effective but hasn't had a lot of carries.
And obviously you are right about Seymour.
Ok...Hadn't looked at the stats...The last 3 weeks, each team's starting RB has been effective but hasn't had a lot of carries.
And obviously you are right about Seymour.
Effective, yeah, but the 3 main backs have had YPC's of 3.7, 3.9, and 4.2, nothing special. Plus, with the scores the way they're, it's not like the Pats are focusing on stopping the run that often.
But the Cowboys game will be a good test, the Boys have the 5th best rushing offense right now.
AgentOrange
10-08-2007, 12:15 PM
Effective, yeah, but the 3 main backs have had YPC's of 3.7, 3.9, and 4.2, nothing special. Plus, with the scores the way they're, it's not like the Pats are focusing on stopping the run that often.
But the Cowboys game will be a good test, the Boys have the 5th best rushing offense right now.
While 3.7 might not be earth shattering it would get a first down every time on 3 carries.
While 3.7 might not be earth shattering it would get a first down every time on 3 carries.
Yeah, if they got that average on every carry. Obviously, there would be carries of less than that, and obviously if they ran every play the defense would gear up for that. It's not a good average, especially when there aren't that many carries.
Buffalo is pumped up, the Cowboys may have a little tougher game on their hands than we all thought... I still think Dallas wins, but it looks like its going to be a good game for a while.
Sports Guy
10-08-2007, 11:58 PM
What a win by Dallas....Romo throws 5 picks and coughs up a fumble and their kicker has to kick a 53 yard FG TWICE to win the game...Wow.
What a win by Dallas....Romo throws 5 picks and coughs up a fumble and their kicker has to kick a 53 yard FG TWICE to win the game...Wow.
Yeah, amazing that they overcame 5 picks, 2 of those run back for a TD, and a kickoff return td. Obviously not an impressive win, but at least they came out with a win in a pumped up environment.
geschinger
10-09-2007, 12:08 AM
What a win by Dallas....Romo throws 5 picks and coughs up a fumble and their kicker has to kick a 53 yard FG TWICE to win the game...Wow.
Hopefully they got all the negative plays out of their system and can give NE a game next week. If they play anything like they did tonight and it'll be a blowout.
Hopefully they got all the negative plays out of their system and can give NE a game next week. If they play anything like they did tonight and it'll be a blowout.
Well it's not like the whole team played bad, it was basically just Romo and the ST's on the kick return. But yes, if Romo throws 5 picks next week, they will get blown out.:D
RipkenWay
10-09-2007, 12:27 AM
Poor play calling by the Bills gave the Cowboys this game. I know it's easy to second guess but the Bill's were at the Cowboys 10 or so when Edwards threw the pick. They should have run the ball, took time off the clock and kicked the field goal. That would have been the difference in the game.
I think the Cowboys may have been looking ahead to next week. But they better be looking in their rear view mirrors as the Skins are playing well. The Redskins have one of the best secondaries in the league. The Cowboys lack a running game and I think when the Skins and Boys meet it will be tough for the boys to pass against them. Romo will not have all that time in the pocket that he had tonight. Where in the h*** was Buffalo's pass rush??
Poor play calling by the Bills gave the Cowboys this game. I know it's easy to second guess but the Bill's were at the Cowboys 10 or so when Edwards threw the pick. They should have run the ball, took time off the clock and kicked the field goal. That would have been the difference in the game.
I think the Cowboys may have been looking ahead to next week. But they better be looking in their rear view mirrors as the Skins are playing well. The Redskins have one of the best secondaries in the league. The Cowboys lack a running game and I think when the Skins and Boys meet it will be tough for the boys to pass against them. Romo will not have all that time in the pocket that he had tonight. Where in the h*** was Buffalo's pass rush??
The Cowboys have a good running game, so I have to disagree with you there. Barber is a beast and Jones is solid.
RipkenWay
10-09-2007, 12:49 AM
The Cowboys have a good running game, so I have to disagree with you there. Barber is a beast and Jones is solid.
The Cowboys have had a good running game against who they have played thus far. You have to remember that the Bills were ranked 32 in the league n total D and they held their own. Their problem tonight was no pass rush.
Barber is a beast?? I respectfully disagree with you. Mike Sellers from the Redskins is a beast. With the running back tandem of Portis and Betts, I would say the Redskins have the edge in this department. Futhermore, their O line is superior to that of the Cowboys.
Finally the Redskins defense is superior to the Cowboys defense. Expect to see the Cowboys receivers short arming a few passes across the middle with Sean Taylor and Laron Landry lurking.
The Cowboys have had a good running game against who they have played thus far. You have to remember that the Bills were ranked 32 in the league n total D and they held their own. Their problem tonight was no pass rush.
Barber is a beast?? I respectfully disagree with you. Mike Sellers from the Redskins is a beast. With the running back tandem of Portis and Betts, I would say the Redskins have the edge in this department. Futhermore, their O line is superior to that of the Cowboys.
Finally the Redskins defense is superior to the Cowboys defense. Expect to see the Cowboys receivers short arming a few passes across the middle with Sean Taylor and Laron Landry lurking.
I'm not saying the Cowboys tandem is better than the Skins, just saying they have a good run offense. They were 13th in yards last year, and 5th heading into tonight this year with the 2nd best average. Yes, they were held in check today, but Buffalo was very pumped up, so I think they outplayed their ranking.
Barber averaged 4.8 YPC last year, and going into tonight was averaging 6.4 this year. The problem with the Cowboys running game is they give it to Jones too much, he averaged 4.1 last year, and 3.5 this year.
The Skins line is not as good as normal now due to Jansen and Thomas being out, so I'm not sure about them being better.
If you read this forum much, or have just read this thread, you know I'm a Skins fan, I wasn't trying to say that the Cowboys will beat the Skins, although I suspect they will win one of the two games, just saying that I think you were off when saying the Cowboys lack a running game.
longflyball
10-09-2007, 01:09 AM
Poor play calling by the Bills gave the Cowboys this game. I know it's easy to second guess but the Bill's were at the Cowboys 10 or so when Edwards threw the pick. They should have run the ball, took time off the clock and kicked the field goal. That would have been the difference in the game.
And predictably the MNF crew blamed the pick on Edwards and spared the coach.
Where in the h*** was Buffalo's pass rush??
Non-existent. Romo had loads of time and a giant pocket all night and he still threw 5 interceptions. He rainbowed many of this throws. They had no power behind them.
The time keeping during the MNF game was horrendous...
If that onside kick,deflection and recover, took only two seconds,I can run the 40 in just under a half a second.
The time keeping during the MNF game was horrendous...
If that onside kick,deflection and recover, took only two seconds,I can run the 40 in just under a half a second.
The time doesn't start until after the ball is touched.
RipkenWay
10-09-2007, 01:31 AM
:D
I'm not saying the Cowboys tandem is better than the Skins, just saying they have a good run offense. They were 13th in yards last year, and 5th heading into tonight this year with the 2nd best average. Yes, they were held in check today, but Buffalo was very pumped up, so I think they outplayed their ranking.
Barber averaged 4.8 YPC last year, and going into tonight was averaging 6.4 this year. The problem with the Cowboys running game is they give it to Jones too much, he averaged 4.1 last year, and 3.5 this year.
The Skins line is not as good as normal now due to Jansen and Thomas being out, so I'm not sure about them being better.
If you read this forum much, or have just read this thread, you know I'm a Skins fan, I wasn't trying to say that the Cowboys will beat the Skins, although I suspect they will win one of the two games, just saying that I think you were off when saying the Cowboys lack a running game.
Lets just say the Cowboys have an adequate rushing offense. ;) Buffalo was very pumped up for sure but their D-Line is weak and created zero pass rush. With that being said the Cowboys running game was still weak. Jones had 12 rushes for 71 yards and Barber 8 for 28.
I totally agree with you about the Skins O line. However, I think the O line will be okay. The young kid Heyer from Maryland seems to be able to hold his own. There is no disputing the fact that Jansen and Thomas will be sorely missed.
I respect your opinion regarding the Cowboys running game. I still think it's a bit suspect. Compared to the Skins I actually think it's kind of weak. I do agree with you about the Cowboys and Skins. I think we are likely to get a split with them this year.
Hail Skins:D
RipkenWay
10-09-2007, 01:34 AM
The time doesn't start until after the ball is touched.
He's right. The clock does not start until the ball is touched.
Buffalo gave this game away. Dallas did not win it. The Cowboys were looking ahead to next week and it almost cost them.
The time doesn't start until after the ball is touched.
I'm aware of that and It still took longer than two seconds.Hurd deflects it at chest level,the ball hits the ground and travels another three or four yards and bounces from what I can tell 3 times, and then is pounced on.
There's no way that happens in two seconds.
I'm aware of that and It still took longer than two seconds.Hurd deflects it at chest level,the ball hits the ground and travels another three or four yards and bounces from what I can tell 3 times, and then is pounced on.
There's no way that happens in two seconds.
It was probably 3 seconds.