Fall Out Boys

[cindyluvsbrady]

Im just curious.Anyone a fan of them?

[BustaJ2632]

It's Fall Out Boy, not Boys. And there have been worse bands in the past 5 years, but I'd hardly call myself a fan. Their big hits (especially This Ain't a Scene, It's an Arms Race) seem a little less generic and more critical of the formulaic emo scene than most these days.

[rolliefingers]

Hee hee.

No. Not a fan.

[cindyluvsbrady]

They sound ok to me.Im not a huge fan.I love Hootie and The Blowfish:)
Who are the big fans of Fall Out Boy....sorry Busta..?:confused: The Hannah Montana crowd?

[ledzepp8]

No, they suck. They suck really badly.

[PaulFolk]

I don't know anything about their music. But are they named after the Simpsons character? Because, if so, that's awesome.

[The Wedge]

Infectious, but ultimately bland, mainstream bubblegum emo. Nothing I'd buy, but unless I'm in a bad mood, I wouldn't turn off the radio if they came on.

[Pedro Cerrano]

I dislike most modern rock, but I gotta say these guys are tolerable. In fact, I enjoy a few of their songs.

[Tank]

Not a fan, but there are worse acts out there. They're absolutely terrible live though.

[The Wedge]

They're absolutely terrible live though.

This is becoming increasingly and annoying more true in the modern age of recording. It used to be you had to be awesome live, tighter than tight, and able to reproduce that night in and night out (barring the occasionally off days) because recording studios had only a few tracks to work with, and no way of massively punching up any recordings.

Now, you can suck ass live, but if you got the green, or the backing, you can go in to a studio and massive track recording, computers, and digital effects/tricks can make anybody sound decent. Like Ben Folds sang in "Rockin' The Suburbs" as a dig to Fred Durst: "some producer with computers fixes all my sh*tty tracks."

I love it when I hear about a band one, two, or three tracking their recordings. Just getting together in a room, having the engineer place, test, replace, test the mics ad nauseum until he gets the recording sounding natural and even, and then just hitting record and going to town.

[gallden]

This is becoming increasingly and annoying more true in the modern age of recording. It used to be you had to be awesome live, tighter than tight, and able to reproduce that night in and night out (barring the occasionally off days) because recording studios had only a few tracks to work with, and no way of massively punching up any recordings.

Now, you can suck ass live, but if you got the green, or the backing, you can go in to a studio and massive track recording, computers, and digital effects/tricks can make anybody sound decent. Like Ben Folds sang in "Rockin' The Suburbs" as a dig to Fred Durst: "some producer with computers fixes all my sh*tty tracks."

I love it when I hear about a band one, two, or three tracking their recordings. Just getting together in a room, having the engineer place, test, replace, test the mics ad nauseum until he gets the recording sounding natural and even, and then just hitting record and going to town.

I've been to Nashville and recorded a cd I played drums on it so I'm more familiar with that part of it, but some of you probably know this they use a program for a Mac called beat detective. From what i remember 100% is fixing all the beats so in other words if you're a split second off the down beat lets say, the program puts you right exactly on the 1 with your bass drum. I think when we recorded we had it on 25% so it still sounded like a person, for example a band called MercyMe,(a christian band) puts the program on 100% so the drums sound absolutely perfect and almost like a loop. So obviously these bands don't have this stuff live.

[The Wedge]

That's what I'm talking about. Don't worry about actually playing your instrument correctly. We got software.

[rolliefingers]

I've been to Nashville and recorded a cd I played drums on it so I'm more familiar with that part of it, but some of you probably know this they use a program for a Mac called beat detective. From what i remember 100% is fixing all the beats so in other words if you're a split second off the down beat lets say, the program puts you right exactly on the 1 with your bass drum. I think when we recorded we had it on 25% so it still sounded like a person, for example a band called MercyMe,(a christian band) puts the program on 100% so the drums sound absolutely perfect and almost like a loop. So obviously these bands don't have this stuff live.

I too have recorded drums in a studio, and that stuff is readily available. The only times I ever asked an engineer to "correct" my mistakes were when we recorded an otherwise great take and there was one glaring mistake screwing it up. The rule was, if you had to correct more than one thing - any instrument - then you do another take.

All that science makes me ill, to be honest. If you can't play live, you shouldn't be playing music. And no, I don't mean that as a slag against hip-hop. :)

[gallden]

I too have recorded drums in a studio, and that stuff is readily available. The only times I ever asked an engineer to "correct" my mistakes were when we recorded an otherwise great take and there was one glaring mistake screwing it up. The rule was, if you had to correct more than one thing - any instrument - then you do another take.

All that science makes me ill, to be honest. If you can't play live, you shouldn't be playing music. And no, I don't mean that as a slag against hip-hop. :)

Did you play with a click track?

[The Wedge]

Did you play with a click track?

I can't speak for him specifically, but one can assume he did since that's almost standard practice, even for the smallest of studios.

I'm not sure why you asked, but if you were saying something about click tracks being another example of technology bands didn't have years ago in recording, it's not a bad argument. They had metronomes, though. And drummers were just tighter because they realized that the primary point of their instrument in a rock outfit was to keep time. They were more concerned with keeping it tight and on line then with crazy drumming. Then some really good drummers were able to do both and eventually the lines started to blur a bit.

[DuffMan]

I don't know anything about their music. But are they named after the Simpsons character? Because, if so, that's awesome.

I believe so. I seem to remember an interview with them on the Radio recently. Apparently when they first started getting big some people from The Simpsons called them and were worried that the band was going to sue them for copyright enfringment and the band thought The Simpsons was going to do the same to them. Once both realized that they were ok with the band using the name there was no problem at all.

[gallden]

I can't speak for him specifically, but one can assume he did since that's almost standard practice, even for the smallest of studios.

I'm not sure why you asked, but if you were saying something about click tracks being another example of technology bands didn't have years ago in recording, it's not a bad argument. They had metronomes, though. And drummers were just tighter because they realized that the primary point of their instrument in a rock outfit was to keep time. They were more concerned with keeping it tight and on line then with crazy drumming. Then some really good drummers were able to do both and eventually the lines started to blur a bit.

I was just wondering about the click track b/c when I recorded that was the first time I had used one and it took me a couple of hours to get in the groove with the thing.

[The Wedge]

I was just wondering about the click track b/c when I recorded that was the first time I had used one and it took me a couple of hours to get in the groove with the thing.

Ah, well, like I said, it's pretty standard now.

[gallden]

Ah, well, like I said, it's pretty standard now.

I've often thought about starting to use one at my church where I play, for lights, video, and all that stuff.

[The Wedge]

A click track for lights?

[rolliefingers]

I used a click for a few songs, but not most. Some songs just come naturally and others are more precise and difficult, so I tended to use a click on the harder ones. And I never used one live. I never wanted to go to the trouble of programming stuff and triggering it at a show.

[The Wedge]

I love how this thread has become pretty much about recording/production tricks.

[rolliefingers]

I love how this thread has become pretty much about recording/production tricks.

Fall Out Boy suxxorz!

[gallden]

A click track for lights?

Yeah for light programs and such. Mainly it'd be for video stuff but that would limit the flow of the music we play immensely by using a click for lights for sure.

[The Wedge]

I'm still confused. It's lights. You don't need to keep time with lights.

[rolliefingers]

Yeah for light programs and such. Mainly it'd be for video stuff but that would limit the flow of the music we play immensely by using a click for lights for sure.

I literally have no idea what you're talking about.

[gallden]

I'm sure both of you know what I'm talking about I'm just not explaining it well at all. Lets take for example Dave Matthews Band. They run their lights off of a click track,I'm assuming, so that when the chorus comes on the click track all the lights go to white or blue or whatever color you want, so they don't have a guy there doing it. Its done from a click track. Did I do better this time?

[The Wedge]

That's probably more of a computer controlled lighting cue program.