View Full Version : Whiteside, Knott, Jiminez, and Dubois are gone!
Crazysilver03
11-21-2007, 11:50 PM
http://www.baseballamerica.com/blog/prospects/?p=669
Knott and Whiteside signed with the Twins. Jiminez and Dubois went to the Nationals.
Dubois and Whiteside, don't care too much. Jimenez and Knott deserved chances.
Elbren
11-22-2007, 12:44 AM
Dubois and Whiteside, don't care too much. Jimenez and Knott deserved chances.
Agree. Knott deserved a shot at the end of the season and I think Jimenez at least deserved a spot on the 40-man.
mikezpen
11-22-2007, 05:19 AM
Jimemez is the one I really miss, now. I wish they'd given him a shot. They ignored thse guys so they cold play Bako, Payton, Patterson, and Millar, none of who had an iota of significance for this team.Where did House sign? Anybody know?
God we have the most pitiful excuse for management in the Game. We have to!
Fan4Life
11-22-2007, 08:34 AM
Jimemez is the one I really miss, now. I wish they'd given him a shot. They ignored thse guys so they cold play Bako, Payton, Patterson, and Millar, none of who had an iota of significance for this team.Where did House sign? Anybody know?
God we have the most pitiful excuse for management in the Game. We have to!
Yeah, this one bothers me.... I think this kid has potental.... what a shame...
Crazysilver03
11-22-2007, 10:18 AM
Jimemez is the one I really miss, now. I wish they'd given him a shot. They ignored thse guys so they cold play Bako, Payton, Patterson, and Millar, none of who had an iota of significance for this team.Where did House sign? Anybody know?
God we have the most pitiful excuse for management in the Game. We have to!
J.R. House hasnt signed with a team yet.
melankfo
11-22-2007, 12:14 PM
http://www.baseballamerica.com/blog/prospects/?p=669
Knott and Whiteside signed with the Twins. Jiminez and Dubois went to the Nationals.
I can see giving up the first two above, but Jiminez? Did anyone in the Orioles org look at his numbers at Bowie last year? 22 homers in only 320 at bats,
.328 BA, .399 OBP and a fairly low strike out ratio for a young power hitter -- 1 per 4.5 ABs. That compares favorably to any power hitter in our system, and none of them hit anything like 22 homers in 320 at bats. Sure -- he's a jumbo body, but he can go to the opposite field and is an average first baseman defensively. David Ortiz, Cecil Fielder and -- in the recent past -- Mo Vaughan seem to do pretty well with that body. He's hit whenever he's been healthy in his minor league career. And he's still only 25. What were the O's thinking? Washington snatched him up -- a much smarter organization than the Orioles in my opinion.
BowieMike
11-22-2007, 12:27 PM
Even though Jimenez looks to be below average in the field, he is versatile. Teams can never have enough solid left handed pitching...:D
http://www.orioleshangout.com/forums/showthread.php?t=52605&highlight=jimenez+pitch
JohnD
11-22-2007, 12:34 PM
On the other hand, Jiminez didn't hit for crap at AAA last year and was getting up there in age.
I think some people are getting a little carried away with his abilities and potential.
blazer
11-22-2007, 02:40 PM
On the other hand, Jiminez didn't hit for crap at AAA last year and was getting up there in age.
I think some people are getting a little carried away with his abilities and potential.
Agree completely...highly unlikely that any of these guys will have impact ML careers.
vatech1994
11-22-2007, 11:59 PM
On the other hand, Jiminez didn't hit for crap at AAA last year and was getting up there in age.
I think some people are getting a little carried away with his abilities and potential.
Jiminez is a guy that I wonder about. He must absolutely crush a high percentage of some type of pitch, but be completely incapable of hitting some other type of pitch and the scouts feel the pitch he can't hit can be thrown repeatedly at the higher levels. I'm picturing Cerrano from Major League. It is pretty clear that no organization is high on this guy but he just crushes A and AA pitching. I've never seen him hit so I have no idea, but there must be something in the scouting reports that override the AA stats.
olehippi
11-23-2007, 01:01 AM
I wonder what it is that we OH'ers see, or don't see, in players that O's management sees, or doesn't see. There always seems to be players we feel deserve a chance that are totally ignored by the O's. Is it that we don't really know how to judge talent, or that these players, for whatever reasons, just don't fit the O's mold?
Josh Phelps is an example. Almost everyone on OH was upset when the O's let him get away, yet he bombed with the Yankees, and again with the Pirates. What makes anyone think it would have been different if the O's kept him?
NCSUFreak2006
11-23-2007, 02:57 AM
I wonder what it is that we OH'ers see, or don't see, in players that O's management sees, or doesn't see. There always seems to be players we feel deserve a chance that are totally ignored by the O's. Is it that we don't really know how to judge talent, or that these players, for whatever reasons, just don't fit the O's mold?
Josh Phelps is an example. Almost everyone on OH was upset when the O's let him get away, yet he bombed with the Yankees, and again with the Pirates. What makes anyone think it would have been different if the O's kept him?
Is .306/.399/.503 bombing? I don't think we had many .900 OPS'ers this year. Not trying to be negative, just saying.
mikezpen
11-23-2007, 11:28 AM
The guy has always had solid numbers as a role player. Of course the Orioles management doesn't have much of a clue about things like that.
Rockbird
11-26-2007, 05:14 PM
Man, I remember how excited everyone was about DuBois in Spring Training and how he was going to make the team until he got injured on the last day and that was the last we heard from him. Oh well.
The Twins will play Knott, and he'll have a good year, you just wait.
markdublya
11-26-2007, 05:46 PM
Josh Phelps is an example. Almost everyone on OH was upset when the O's let him get away, yet he bombed with the Yankees, and again with the Pirates. What makes anyone think it would have been different if the O's kept him?
:confused:
Or you can say he had a bad 80 ab's in NY and a phenomenal 77 in Pitt ...oh, and a CAREER .820 - take a moment to compare that to our current motley crue...
He isn't an NL player, he should DH. That is the only reason he is no longer a Pirate.