2004 College Lacrosse Thread

[Munson]

Well the college season got kicked off last night with a Delaware 8-7 win over St. Joseph's. There aren't anymore games until next Saturday. Most of the local teams don't start up until the 28th. Navy starts up next Saturday though.

[Munson]

Channel 2 Sports 2004 TOYOTA College Lacrosse Game of the Week Schedule

Saturday, March 6 Princeton @ Hopkins 1:00 PM

Saturday, March 13 Towson @ Maryland 1:00PM

Saturday, March 20 Syracuse @ Hopkins 1:00PM

Saturday, March 27 Delaware @ UMBC 1:00PM

Saturday, April 3 Albany @ UMBC 1:00PM

Saturday, April 10 Navy @ Maryland 1:00PM

Saturday, April 17 Maryland @ Hopkins 8:00PM

Saturday, April 24 Penn @ Loyola 1:00PM

Saturday, May 1 Towson @ Hopkins 3:00PM

Saturday, May 8 Hopkins @ Loyola 1:00PM

Friday, May 28 NCAA Tournament Preview 7:30pm

[Munson]

For those of you that have the College Sports Network.

The 2004 CSTV Lax Schedule (all times ET):

Sat., March 6 Princeton at John's Hopkins (men's) 1 p.m.

Sun., March 14 Virginia at Princeton (women's) 2 p.m.

Sat., March 20 Syracuse at John's Hopkins (men's) 1 p.m.

Sat., March 27 Navy at Army (men's) 12 p.m.

Sat., March 27 Syracuse at Princeton (men's) 3 p.m.

Sat., April 3 Virginia at Maryland (men's) 1 p.m.

Sun., April 4 Vanderbilt at John's Hopkins (women's) 1 p.m.

Wed., April 7 Georgetown at Maryland (women's) 7 p.m.

Sat., April 10 Rutgers at Princeton (men's) 12 p.m.

Sat., April 10 Yale at Princeton (women's) 3 p.m.

Sat., April 17 Dartmouth at Cornell (men's) 1 p.m.

Sat., April 17 Maryland at John's Hopkins (men's) 8 p.m.

Fri., April 23 Penn State at Ohio State (women's) 7 p.m.

Sat., April 24 Johns Hopkins at Navy (men's) 5 p.m.

Sat., May 8 Rutgers at Massachusetts (men's) 1 p.m.

Sat., May 15 NCAA Division II Women's Championship 12 p.m.

Sun., May 16 NCAA Division III Women's Championship 1 p.m.

Sun., May 23 NCAA Division I Women's Championship TBD

Sun., May 30 NCAA Division III Men's Championship 12 p.m. Sun., May 30 NCAA Division II Men's Championship 3 p.m.

[The Wedge]

I work for Towson Events, and do sound and other such stuff for most athletic events, so I was there yesterday for a scrimmage between TU and Bucknell. Their squad looks pretty good this year. I mean, they were playing Bucknell, but they still looked cohesive and tight. Could be a pretty good year for them.

[Munson]

I really look forward to getting up to Towson to see the Tigers play this year. I'm also looking forward to coming up to Towson to watch the Bayhawks this year.

[The Wedge]

Originally posted by Munson
I really look forward to getting up to Towson to see the Tigers play this year. I'm also looking forward to coming up to Towson to watch the Bayhawks this year.

Yeah, I just heard that yesterday, which means I'll more than likely be running sound for the Bayhawks, which is awesome for me.

[tstidm1]

Hi there,

As a Towson Alum, I definitely need to make the trip to see some Bayhawks and Tiger games. The facility is very nice up there. Why hasn't this made any local papers that Towson is the new home for the Bayhawks? This would draw fans from Harford, Baltimore and Carroll counties at least.

[The Wedge]

Originally posted by tstidm1
Hi there,

As a Towson Alum, I definitely need to make the trip to see some Bayhawks and Tiger games. The facility is very nice up there. Why hasn't this made any local papers that Towson is the new home for the Bayhawks? This would draw fans from Harford, Baltimore and Carroll counties at least.

As I understand it, its only now being finalized.

[Munson]

Originally posted by Wedge
As I understand it, its only now being finalized.
The Bayhawks have been selling tickets for Towson for about a month now.

[The Wedge]

Originally posted by Munson
The Bayhawks have been selling tickets for Towson for about a month now.

Oh, really?

Jeez, testament to the inter-departmental fragmentation here at TU. My department only got wind of it this week.

In that case, I have no clue why they aren't promoting it more.

[Munson]

I don't know either. It's not just Towson, the Bayhawks didn't post anything on their website either. The only reason I knew was by clicking on their buy tickets link.

[The Wedge]

Well, that's simply silly. They should be cross promoting the hell out of that. Especially since one of the main reasons for going to Unitas Stadium is that the parking last year at Hopkins was non-existent.

[The Wedge]

Originally posted by Munson
Wedge, how many parking spots does the stadium lot hold up at Towson. Do they allow tailgating? The parking was one of the main reasons I was happy about the Bayhawks moving up to Towson.

Tons. Especially during the summer when no classes will be over at the Towson Center (which is adjacent to Unitas Stadium). And if there is overflow, the closest campus lot/garage is only a 5 minute (or so) walk away.

They allow tailgating for TU games, so I don't see why they'd change that for Bayhawks games. I'm getting kinda psyched for this, I hope I get to work most of these games.

[Munson]

Wedge, how many parking spots does the stadium lot hold up at Towson. Do they allow tailgating? The parking was one of the main reasons I was happy about the Bayhawks moving up to Towson.

[The Wedge]

Wow, that's super odd, how my quoted reply to you got put above your post.

[Munson]

Feb. 21st games:

Colgate at Villanova (1:00)
Delaware at Lehigh (1:00)
Navy at Lafayette (1:00)
Penn State at Ohio State (1:00)
Providence at Fairfield (1:00)
Virginia vs. Drexel (Haverford, PA) (11:00)

[imagine29028]

2/28

Loyola @ Towson!!!!!!!

gonna tailgate, cause its supposed to be nice weather wise (60 & sunny) and this will be my first game as a TU alumni :eek: :cool:

I am lookin forward to the upcoming season....Towson is really young, and will probably have problems scoring goals :( But a crappy lacrosse game is better than none at all...

thats awesome the bayhawks are playin towson...

[Munson]

I really want to go to the Loyola/Towson game on Saturday. Unfourtantely, I have an appointment to get my taxes done on Saturday.

[imagine29028]

Originally posted by Munson
I really want to go to the Loyola/Towson game on Saturday. Unfourtantely, I have an appointment to get my taxes done on Saturday.


faceoff is at 2...not 1....

[The Wedge]

Originally posted by imagine29028
faceoff is at 2...not 1....

I'm in the Unitas Stadium announcers booth as we speak, and its scheduled for 2. Though, that all depends on when this womens game finishs up.

Just remember, anyone who goes to this game...you sorta know the guy controlling the sound (PA/Music) at the Stadium.

Wish I could tailgate.

[Munson]

Wedge, any scoring updates.

Major upset today.
Air Force 7
Virginia 6

The Terps whipped the Hoyas 14-5.
Hopkins squeaks by Penn 10-9.

[The Wedge]

Originally posted by Munson
Wedge, any scoring updates.

Major upset today.
Air Force 7
Virginia 6

The Terps whipped the Hoyas 14-5.
Hopkins squeaks by Penn 10-9.

Sorry, my computer went down in the announcers booth. You probably already know by now that Loyola stuck it to Towson 14-9. Everyone at Unitas was shocked to hear about AF taking out UVa.

[imagine29028]

Originally posted by Wedge
Sorry, my computer went down in the announcers booth. You probably already know by now that Loyola stuck it to Towson 14-9. Everyone at Unitas was shocked to hear about AF taking out UVa.


yeah there was a nice cheer that went up....

Tailgaiting was kind of bunk...we rolled in around 1:10 (a bit later than I wanted) slammed a few beers and what not....but the lot was pretty empty...just some frats and loyola people. Hopefully we can get some more people out for the UVA game....on the 21st.


Towson played terrible...thier youth and inexperience shown through. Lots of turnovers, and missed chances....and by the last 5 minutes the game just got sloppy and the Tigers thought they could make it a physical game.

[The Wedge]

Originally posted by imagine29028
yeah there was a nice cheer that went up....

Tailgaiting was kind of bunk...we rolled in around 1:10 (a bit later than I wanted) slammed a few beers and what not....but the lot was pretty empty...just some frats and loyola people. Hopefully we can get some more people out for the UVA game....on the 21st.


Towson played terrible...thier youth and inexperience shown through. Lots of turnovers, and missed chances....and by the last 5 minutes the game just got sloppy and the Tigers thought they could make it a physical game.

They also couldn't grab a loose or ground ball to save their lives.

[Munson]

I'm going to try to make it up for the Providence game next Sunday.

[Munson]

Wow, Virginia goes down again, this time to Denver 9-7. Colorado lacrosse represented themselves well.

[The Wedge]

Originally posted by Munson
I'm going to try to make it up for the Providence game next Sunday.

I know I'll be there. In the announcer's booth. Cracking wise with the PA announcer and the official timekeeper. Like every other game. Playing music just a little too loudly. :cool:

[Munson]

Nice win for Navy over North Carolina last night.

[Munson]

Nice lineup of games today. I'll be watching the Princeton/Hopkins game while trying to listen to the MD/Duke and Orioles at the same time.

[Munson]

MD 17 Duke 12
Hopkins 14 Princeton 5
Syracuse 18 UVA 12
Georgetown 14 Cornell 4

[The Wedge]

For any who attended the Towson game today:

I'm sorry, I HAVE to play that stupid "Johnny U" song at the half. The AD makes me. Tom Judd, the PA announcer is SUPPOSED to shill it after it plays, but he left the booth so all we got was a really slow, lame song to start the half.

It'd make more sense if we had a jumbotron and could show it with a Johnny U retrospect, but as it is, its just a slow ass depressing song.

Though, the game is slow and depressing today anyway, with Providence not even trying to win, just trying to keep the score respectable. 7 to 1 at the half, and if Providence wasn't clock killing on every possession it'd probably be 15-1.

[Munson]

1 Johns Hopkins 2-0 (6) 195 1
2 Maryland 2-0 (4) 192 2
3 Syracuse 2-0 183 3
4 Rutgers 2-0 145 T8
5 Notre Dame 1-0 135 T8
6 Georgetown 1-1 132 T11
7 Princeton 1-1 129 5
8 Duke 2-1 127 6
9 North Carolina 1-1 123 4
10 Denver 3-0 123 T11
11 Hofstra 1-1 95 19
12 Loyola 1-1 89 7
13 Cornell 1-1 84 10
14 Massachusetts 2-1 76 13
15 Navy 2-1 75 n/r
16 UMBC 1-1 50 18
17 Virginia 1-3 39 16
18 Towson 1-1 33 17
19 Army 1-1 31 n/r
20 Air Force 2-1 18 14

Others receiving votes (in order): Bucknell, Ohio State, Fairfield, Pennsylvania, Delaware, Dartmouth

[UMBCOriole]

UMBC's game on the 27th is televised???

I hope they don't expect many students there...it'll still be spring break altho I'll be there (I'm in an apt. on-campus)

[The Wedge]

Towson at Maryland, 1 pm, on WMAR...

I don't expect Towson to win, but it'll be interesting to see how close they keep it.

[imagine29028]

Originally posted by Wedge
Towson at Maryland, 1 pm, on WMAR...

I don't expect Towson to win, but it'll be interesting to see how close they keep it.


We did good (considering) it was a game that we didn't have to win since it was non-conference....but it was a great game to see what we really had. The young attackmen had problems up until the 4th quarter, when we scored 5 goals.

So all in all...Sunday when UVA comes to Towson is gonna be great. :cool:

[mdpatsfan]

Hopkins/Syracuse this weekend. Time to find out if Hopkins is for real, 'cuse HAS to be pissed about the semis last year.

[mdpatsfan]

Anybody interested in taking a bus trip down to UVA on 3/27 fpor the Hopkins/VA LAX game? They need one more rider to break even. Did this two years ago to UVA, fun trip, great LAX.

[The Wedge]

Originally posted by mdpatsfan
Hopkins/Syracuse this weekend. Time to find out if Hopkins is for real, 'cuse HAS to be pissed about the semis last year.

Hopkins is for real.

[theklaffer]

Originally posted by Wedge
Hopkins is for real.

You better believe it!!!

Uh, that would be Princeton and Syracuse in consecutive weeks by an average margin of over 10 goals.

Finally, this is the year. I've been saying that since my freshman year, and every year, I believe it's true, but this is the best I've seen them.

Only real concern right now is Maryland.

27 days until the big showdown. 100th meeting of the best rivalry in lacrosse.

[The Wedge]

Ugh. Awesome game, but UVA took out Towson in overtime. 9-8.

[mdpatsfan]

Hopkins made Syracuse look like a bunch of high schoolers. This team is playing as well as any Hopkins team I've seen over the years.

[imagine29028]

Originally posted by Wedge
Ugh. Awesome game, but UVA took out Towson in overtime. 9-8.


great game...I can't believe we let UVA back in the game :mad: :(


that being said...UVA and John Christmas didn't impress me, one bit...both looked sloppy and were lacking some major fundamental aspects of the game.

Reed Southern on the other hand...WOW!

[The Wedge]

Originally posted by imagine29028
great game...I can't believe we let UVA back in the game :mad: :(


that being said...UVA and John Christmas didn't impress me, one bit...both looked sloppy and were lacking some major fundamental aspects of the game.

Reed Southern on the other hand...WOW!

The...REED! Yeah, Sothoron was otherworldly yesterday. Probably realized that he needed to be to contend with Tillman Johnson. That was actually the best TU had played for awhile, except for the sluggishness coming out of halftime.

What was with UVA getting all those unneccessary roughness and unsportsmanlikes?

[mdpatsfan]

Christmas played? I had heard he was still hurt. He has missed at least two games this year so I'm sure that has to do with his not being up to speed. It's also a hamstring, he may be dealing with that the rest of the year.

[imagine29028]

Originally posted by mdpatsfan
Christmas played? I had heard he was still hurt. He has missed at least two games this year so I'm sure that has to do with his not being up to speed. It's also a hamstring, he may be dealing with that the rest of the year.


yeah he played...had 3 helpers. But it was just the little things he did, like not catching passes or passing to guys who were double teamed.....little things you learn before you even play high school. And this guy is one of the best in the nation?


Peter LeSuer (hopkins top midfielder) was at the game...I guess scouting for next week against UVA. My buddy went to high school with him (Garden City, NY) and was chatting to him for a few minutes.

Next week we're at Rutgers and then we start the CAA part of our schedule and two back to back night games at "the U" (I hate that title, saying) in early April against Nova and Mt. St Marys.

[The Wedge]

Originally posted by imagine29028


Next week we're at Rutgers and then we start the CAA part of our schedule and two back to back night games at "the U" (I hate that title, saying) in early April against Nova and Mt. St Marys.

Want me to tell Tom Judd (Towson PA guy) that? Most of us love "The U," and it's his little creation to call it that. But he does accept negative feedback on his little colluquisms. Though, don't speak negative of "Tigers will have maaaaaaaaaan advantage!" He won't change that. ;)

[imagine29028]

Originally posted by Wedge
Though, don't speak negative of "Tigers will have maaaaaaaaaan advantage!" He won't change that. ;)

Actually I don't mind that....but there was alot of comments in the stands about it on Sunday.

and why is the fight song played during lax games? :confused: IMO it should be Football only.

[The Wedge]

Originally posted by imagine29028
Actually I don't mind that....but there was alot of comments in the stands about it on Sunday.

and why is the fight song played during lax games? :confused: IMO it should be Football only.

Public relations asked me to play it after goals. The President has been hosting several fundraising parties in his suite the past few home games, so I think they are trying to rah-rah the crowd a bit. I find it a tad odd, but not too out of place. Anything to spark the usually tame crowd, maybe create some excitment, get more people out.

[Munson]

There's a TV double header today. Delaware/UMBC 1:00 Ch. 2
Towson/Rutgers 3:00 CN8

[imagine29028]

Originally posted by Munson
There's a TV double header today. Delaware/UMBC 1:00 Ch. 2
Towson/Rutgers 3:00 CN8


Towson beat the Scarlet Knights 7-4....

and UDel beat UMBC 9-8...

[theklaffer]

Originally posted by Wedge
Ugh. Awesome game, but UVA took out Towson in overtime. 9-8.

Now they've done it to Hopkins too. Same score, also overtime. Ugh is right.

How does UVA lost to Air Force and Denver, while Hopkins spanks Syracuse and Princeton, then UVA beats Hopkins?

It's gotta be a mental block left over from last year's final.

[Munson]

The Terps will be the new number 1 this week. UVA travels up to Byrd Stadium next Saturday.

[theklaffer]

Originally posted by Munson
The Terps will be the new number 1 this week. UVA travels up to Byrd Stadium next Saturday.

I can't see Hopkins dropping lower than #2, though. Considering Syracuse is #3 and they weren't in the same universe as the Jays. And #4 (Carolina) lost (barely) to Maryland. I actually would keep the top 4 the same, except switch Maryland to #1 and Hopkins to #2.

[Munson]

I would switch MD and Hopkins, keep Syracuse at #3, but move Georgetown up to #4.

[imagine29028]

Nova 11
Towson 20

Engleke (sp?) scores 8 goals.

I'm sure Wedge will be home soon, and fill us in some more (since I wasn't at the game tonight).

[The Wedge]

Originally posted by imagine29028
Nova 11
Towson 20

Engleke (sp?) scores 8 goals.

I'm sure Wedge will be home soon, and fill us in some more (since I wasn't at the game tonight).

Yeah, just got home. Engelke was on freakin' FIRE. He could have EASILY broken the TU single game scoring record of 10 if Seaman hadn't done the smart thing and benched his starters. He also had 5 looks that either went wide or were saved by the 'Nova goalie. I was actually scouring my music selection to see if I had anything appropiate to play if he scored 11.

Otherwise it was a pretty unremarkable game. Reed Sothoron looked pretty bad, it was a good thing the offense was in high gear. I could have blocked half the goals he let in.

TU was also 70% off of face offs, and Ben DiFelice started the game off 12 for 12.

[The Wedge]

DeFelice set the school single game ground ball record and almost broke the single game draw record, as well.

[imagine29028]

Very cool Wedge....


Navy also beat Georgetown...and will probably be top 5 next week!!!!!

Hopkins beat UNC, and Maryland destroyed UVA.....

[Munson]

The Terps are really on a roll. They have a tough game against Navy next week than it's the big number 100 against Hopkins on the 17th.

[mdpatsfan]

The Hopkins/MD game should be great. Hopkins looked horrible against VA, came out lethargic against Carolina too. They were lucky to win that one. They don't look anything like the team that rolled Princeton and Syracuse.

[mdpatsfan]

Wow! Navy looked great today, completely took MD out of their game. Looks like next week it will be #1 Hopkins against #2 MD. That is going to be a great game.

[imagine29028]

Originally posted by mdpatsfan
Wow! Navy looked great today, completely took MD out of their game. Looks like next week it will be #1 Hopkins against #2 MD. That is going to be a great game.


I think Navy deserves a top 2 spot...they've beaten 4 top 10 teams this season...2 on the road.

[mdpatsfan]

Navy won't jump in front of Syracuse, depending on how far they drop MD they may get to three but I think MD will just drop to #2.

I would expect Hopkins to move back to 1, MD to 2 and 'Cuse stay at 3. Md and Syracuse may flip flop.

If Navy can beat Hopkins I can easily see them moving into #2. They were VERY impressive, first time I've seen them this year. I'll definitely be at the game with Hopkins.

[imagine29028]

1). Hop
2). Navy
3). MD
4). Cuse
12). Towson

:cool:

[JohnD]

Well when Maryland beats the crap out of those pansies from Hopkins, they'll go back to number 1.

[imagine29028]

Towson beats Delaware 11-9...engleke has 4 goals...and travel to face Hofstra (our only in conference challenge) on saturday night.

[The Wedge]

Originally posted by imagine29028
Towson beats Delaware 11-9...engleke has 4 goals...and travel to face Hofstra (our only in conference challenge) on saturday night.

It got filmed by CN8 for a tape delay broadcast, and let me tell you, it physically pained me that I was off that day. Because I know the other techs that fill in for me at games don't put forth the effort I do. :(

[imagine29028]

another great win by Towson last night as we beat Hofstra....we should crack the top 10 on monday :D


I fell asleep during the Hop-Terps game :o

[theklaffer]

Originally posted by John-OH
Well when Maryland beats the crap out of those pansies from Hopkins, they'll go back to number 1.

Who's the pansy now, big shot?

[mdpatsfan]

Good call John. Hopkins destroyed Maryland. 5 goals on the first five shots. Typical Cottle team big game performance.

[JohnD]

You mean like that 19-1 drubbing in the final four a few years back? :mad:

Wait until the tournament. You won't be so lucky, punks! :mad:

[mdpatsfan]

Christ John, you should be a Red Sox fan.

63-36-1. Seems like one of the two teams has been pretty dominant.

[JohnD]

Browns... Cappies... Terps... I always seem to root on losers.

[mdpatsfan]

Exactly when did you become an Oriole fan? We may have found the root of all evil...:D

[theklaffer]

Originally posted by John-OH
Browns... Cappies... Terps... I always seem to root on losers.

Please tell me you're talking about the St. Louis Browns, not the ones in Cleveland.

[theklaffer]

Originally posted by mdpatsfan
Christ John, you should be a Red Sox fan.

63-36-1. Seems like one of the two teams has been pretty dominant.

LOL.

If I were you, John, I'd be worrying more about getting past Carolina or a resurgent UVA in the ACC finals before thinking about a rematch with Hopkins.

[mdpatsfan]

John,

When was the 19-1 drubbing you mentioned? I don't remember Hopkins losing that badly at any time.

[theklaffer]

Originally posted by mdpatsfan
John,

When was the 19-1 drubbing you mentioned? I don't remember Hopkins losing that badly at any time.

He must have gotten confused and meant Hopkins' 19-8 semifinal <i>win</i> over Syracuse last year. ;-) Talk about a drubbing!

[theklaffer]

Originally posted by mdpatsfan
John,

When was the 19-1 drubbing you mentioned? I don't remember Hopkins losing that badly at any time.

BTW, I believe what he was referring to was Maryland's 19-8 drubbing of Cottle's #1 Loyola team in the 1998 semifinals. He was responding to your comment about it being a typical big-game performance from a Cottle team.

Maryland then went on to get absolutely creamed in the finals by Princeton, 15-5.

Incidentally, Maryland got to the semis that year by beating Hopkins 11-10 in OT in a game which I will never forget because Hopkins was the higher seed, yet had to play the game at Byrd. No way Hopkins comes close to losing if it's held at Homewood. Man that pissed me off! It's the one thing that drives me crazy about lacrosse. Just make the damn games at higher seeds until the semis for G-d sake! Enough with this BD "neutral site" crap, when we all know the sites are anything but neutral.

[JohnD]

Loyola scored eight goals in that game? I guess it just seemed like one. That's right though, that's the one I was referring to.

BTW, I was at that Hopkins game at Byrd. Just an awesome contest. Maryland got the right side of the field on the coin flip and the goalie for Hopkins (the scum bag he was, and wasn't he eventually charged with the date rape drug?, not that I didn't care for him anyway, hehe) had the sun in his eyes for the final OT period. Literally, he never saw it coming.

[imagine29028]

Towson at 9 in some polls, 10 in others :D :cool:


Cuse drops to 6, while Carolina hops to 4.

big game this week in annapolis, #1 Hopkins @ #2 Navy :cool:

[mdpatsfan]

Brian Carcaterra. A damn good goalie, and a pretty good kid. I have met him on several occasions. As for your memory, were you the editor for CLUSA? They were the ones that ran the story, kept it posted, and never posted the follow up where the charges were found false. I blasted them and the article was finally removed, and they NEVER did post the truth.

klaff,

I was at the finals at Rutgers the year MD melted down against Princeton. MD is my second favorite LAX team, or WAS, until Cottle became the coach. Navy has moved to the second spot now, but it was always close between them. Hop has their work cut out for them this weekend.

[theklaffer]

Originally posted by imagine29028
Towson at 9 in some polls, 10 in others :D :cool:


Cuse drops to 6, while Carolina hops to 4.

big game this week in annapolis, #1 Hopkins @ #2 Navy :cool:

Lots of big games this week. ACC Tournament, which has UVA @ UNC and then the big finale with the winner of that one against Maryland (unless Dook can pull an upset).

BTW, has anyone noticed that #4 UNC has lost 3 games this year, and the 3 losses were to the teams ranked #1, #2, and #3, with each loss by only one goal?

To me, the top 4 have really distinguished themselves this year as being far and away better han the pack. You can never count out 'Cuse and Princeton, and Georgetown, Rutgers, and maybe even Towson could make some waves, but I would be surprised if the top 4 don't hold true in reaching the Final Four this year.

[theklaffer]

Originally posted by mdpatsfan
klaff,

I was at the finals at Rutgers the year MD melted down against Princeton. MD is my second favorite LAX team, or WAS, until Cottle became the coach. Navy has moved to the second spot now, but it was always close between them. Hop has their work cut out for them this weekend.

I went to Hopkins (Class of '95) and I am genetically predisposed to being a Tar Heel (my dad, uncle, cousins, etc. all went to Chapel Hill). So lax was the only sport in which I had a conflict of interest (well, that's not entirely true - there was the issue of the fencing team, but it didn't really register until my social life hit absolute rock bottom. :o).

Anyway, in lax I root for Hopkins first, UNC second. In all other sports, I can root for both equally within their respective NCAA Divisions.

[Munson]

CN8 will be picking up the CSTV feed of the Hopkins/Navy game.

[theklaffer]

Originally posted by Munson
CN8 will be picking up the CSTV feed of the Hopkins/Navy game.

And what a game it was!

Right now, there are legitimately 6 teams who could win the tournament. Hopkins, Navy, Maryland, Carolina, Virginia (if they get in), and of course Syracuse. The way Virginia is playing now is scary good. If they beat MD tomorrow, I don't see how they can be denied a spot int he tournament, and if that happens, watch out.

[Munson]

Virginia is playing better, but I wouldn't call it "scary" good. They beat a pretty weak Duke team and a good, but not great UNC team. Even if they win the ACC tournament and beat Penn State to end the year, that still only leaves them at 7-6. I don't know if they should get in at 7-6, even with wins over Hopkins and Maryland. The losses to Denver and Air Force kind of offset their big wins.

[theklaffer]

Originally posted by Munson
Virginia is playing better, but I wouldn't call it "scary" good. They beat a pretty weak Duke team and a good, but not great UNC team. Even if they win the ACC tournament and beat Penn State to end the year, that still only leaves them at 7-6. I don't know if they should get in at 7-6, even with wins over Hopkins and Maryland. The losses to Denver and Air Force kind of offset their big wins.

But look how they'll have finished. (6-2 and 4-0) How many in a row? (4) How did they start? (1-4 and 3-6). And they'll have avenged two of their losses (MD and UNC).

You're right, Denver and Air Force look bad. But let's overlook those for a minute along with the Drexel win (in other words, the first 3 games of their season). Now you're looking at a team that's 6-4 with the losses coming to Syracuse, Princeton, MD, and UNC.

I just don't know how much you can fault a team for a rough start. Look at U-Dub in basketball this year.

Besides, when was the last time the ACC tournament champion failed to make the tournament?! I know they don't get an automatic bid because there are only 4 teams, but it certainly should count for something.

Of course, if they lose either of the last two games, this is all irrelevant.

[imagine29028]

Lets not count out Towson here....it depends who they'd face in the NCAA quarters...(cause its almost certain they'll get out of the CAA tourney).

the only thing that stopped them from reaching the final 4 last year was Hopkins :mad: :(

[The Wedge]

Originally posted by imagine29028
Lets not count out Towson here....it depends who they'd face in the NCAA quarters...(cause its almost certain they'll get out of the CAA tourney).

the only thing that stopped them from reaching the final 4 last year was Hopkins :mad: :(

It's why they play the games...

But I don't see Towson hanging in the tourney against any of the top 5, to be completely honest. They tend towards streakiness. The real test on how well they'll fare in the tourney is how well they can hang with Hopkins this coming Saturday.

[theklaffer]

Originally posted by imagine29028
Lets not count out Towson here....it depends who they'd face in the NCAA quarters...(cause its almost certain they'll get out of the CAA tourney).

the only thing that stopped them from reaching the final 4 last year was Hopkins :mad: :(

Oh come on! Who have they beaten? Rutgers. That's it. Their schedule is pathetically weak, and the few good teams they've played have beaten them. Virginia (at home), at MD, even Loyola (at home!!!!)! In fact, they're lucky they got Villanova at home, because I'm pretty sure they'd have lost to them in Philly.

Winning the CAA means absolutely nothing. Towson should get out of that conference for lacrosse if they want to be a player on the national scene. They stay in because they have loyalties to the conference in other sports and because it guarantees them an automatic berth in the NCAA's every year, which they are satisfied with. But don't expect to get very far against the big boys.

[Munson]

Originally posted by theklaffer
But look how they'll have finished. (6-2 and 4-0) How many in a row? (4) How did they start? (1-4 and 3-6). And they'll have avenged two of their losses (MD and UNC).

You're right, they will finish strong if they win their last two. But, IMO you have to look over the whole season.



You're right, Denver and Air Force look bad. But let's overlook those for a minute along with the Drexel win (in other words, the first 3 games of their season). Now you're looking at a team that's 6-4 with the losses coming to Syracuse, Princeton, MD, and UNC.

They will have some quality wins, but I don't think it's possible to overlook those losses to Denver and Air Force.



I just don't know how much you can fault a team for a rough start. Look at U-Dub in basketball this year.

I'm just repeating myself, but IMO the beginning of the season should count just as much as the end of the season.


Besides, when was the last time the ACC tournament champion failed to make the tournament?! I know they don't get an automatic bid because there are only 4 teams, but it certainly should count for something.

Yeah, but when was the last time the ACC tournament champion finished with a 7-6 overall record? There hasn't been one with a record that bad.

If UVA does win their last two games, they would have a case for making the tournament. More than likely they will be the only team to knock off Hopkins, plus they will have victories over MD and UNC. It would be interesting how much the selection committee holds the Denver and Air Force losses against them.

[Munson]

Great game today between MD and UVA. I think the Terps lost their aggressive on offense and let UVA back in the game. BTW, the ACC Tournament will be at the Ravens Stadium the next two years.

[theklaffer]

I suppose now we won't find out if UVA would have made the tournament. I can't see them getting in at 6-7.

I'm curious to know who the last defending champion to miss the tournament the following season was.

[imagine29028]

Originally posted by theklaffer
I suppose now we won't find out if UVA would have made the tournament. I can't see them getting in at 6-7.

I'm curious to know who the last defending champion to miss the tournament the following season was.


you have to be above .500 to qualify...



but to the guy that badmouthed Towson...the team is different than it was in the beginning of the season ( I know it gets said alot in sports...but just like the Terps basketball team....Towson grew up all season long.) The young attackment are learning how to play D-1 lacrosse now...and these next two games (@UMBC, @ Hopkins) will be a big determing factor of where this team is. But to lose in OT to UVA, come back on MD, beat Hofstra (who was supposed to be the CAA champs) is all impressive.

As far as being in the CAA...where else would they go? They are already in a different conference for football (since they're 1-AA) and then you'd move the lax team to a different conference? The commission probably would kick them out of the conference in the other sports then (because its not like Basketball or anything are prominant). Plus the CAA is one of the largest conferences in D-1 lax...behind the Patriot and Ivy leagues.

[Munson]

Originally posted by theklaffer


I'm curious to know who the last defending champion to miss the tournament the following season was.
I don't think it's ever happened since lacrosse became an NCAA sport.

[The Wedge]

Originally posted by imagine29028
you have to be above .500 to qualify...



but to the guy that badmouthed Towson...the team is different than it was in the beginning of the season ( I know it gets said alot in sports...but just like the Terps basketball team....Towson grew up all season long.) The young attackment are learning how to play D-1 lacrosse now...and these next two games (@UMBC, @ Hopkins) will be a big determing factor of where this team is. But to lose in OT to UVA, come back on MD, beat Hofstra (who was supposed to be the CAA champs) is all impressive.

As far as being in the CAA...where else would they go? They are already in a different conference for football (since they're 1-AA) and then you'd move the lax team to a different conference? The commission probably would kick them out of the conference in the other sports then (because its not like Basketball or anything are prominant). Plus the CAA is one of the largest conferences in D-1 lax...behind the Patriot and Ivy leagues.

I think you mean me...and I didn't badmouth them! I just don't think they can hang. I've seen just about all of their games live (got paid for it too, :) ) and I've seen the top teams play too, and I just don't think, unless TU gets hot, that they can make a legit run at the tourney. It'd be awesome, but unlikely.

And yeah, they aren't moving out of the CAA. The CAA probably keeps them around in OTHER sports because of the lax rub.

Edit: Oh, sorry, you meant theklaffer. Not me. And yeah, he needs to realize that Towson, if hot, is the team that could play spoiler all tourney long.

[theklaffer]

Originally posted by Wedge
I think you mean me...and I didn't badmouth them! I just don't think they can hang. I've seen just about all of their games live (got paid for it too, :) ) and I've seen the top teams play too, and I just don't think, unless TU gets hot, that they can make a legit run at the tourney. It'd be awesome, but unlikely.

And yeah, they aren't moving out of the CAA. The CAA probably keeps them around in OTHER sports because of the lax rub.

Edit: Oh, sorry, you meant theklaffer. Not me. And yeah, he needs to realize that Towson, if hot, is the team that could play spoiler all tourney long.

Yes, he meant me. And I stick by what I said regardin Towson. If they get hot, they can win their first round game. They aren't on the level of the teams they'd face in the quarters. Even a hot Towson team will come up short against a Hopkins or a Maryland on one of their bad days.

Let's see how Towson does against Hopkins in the regular season. I'm willing to change my mind if Towson gives Hopkins a real game. But my prediction is that the final score is Hopkins by at least 4 goals.

Towson belongs in the second tier of teams, with Georgetown and Rutgers. They are more than capable of winning a first round game, and I suppose they could get lucky and win a quarterfinal game. But they have no chance at all at reaching the finals.

As for the CAA, you are correct that they won't leave. But my point was that the schedule they have to face by being in the CAA is bringing them down. If they want to be a national power in lacrosse, they should be an independent. so that they have the freedom to schedule the powerhouse teams more regularly. However, it ismuch more important for Towson to remain in the CAA for other sports, so they sacrifice the lacrosse teams' chances at national glory for more important considerations. I don't disagree with them, BTW. But don't expect the lax team to be winning national titles either.

[imagine29028]

Originally posted by theklaffer


As for the CAA, you are correct that they won't leave. But my point was that the schedule they have to face by being in the CAA is bringing them down. If they want to be a national power in lacrosse, they should be an independent. so that they have the freedom to schedule the powerhouse teams more regularly.

what more do you want?

Every year we play:
Loyola
Hopkins
Maryland
and the last two years we've played UVA...

and then we play Hofstra, Delaware every year (not powerhouses, but not slouches) and this year we've picked up
UMBC.

Edit: Also, it is HIGHLY recommended that a team stay in a conference if they have other teams in a said conference, rather than going Independent. The reason Hopkins is independent, is cause Lax is the only D-1 sport at thier school...and Loyola is because, all their other sports are so horrible.

[ledzepp8]

just a test

[theklaffer]

Originally posted by imagine29028
what more do you want?

Every year we play:
Loyola
Hopkins
Maryland
and the last two years we've played UVA...

and then we play Hofstra, Delaware every year (not powerhouses, but not slouches) and this year we've picked up
UMBC.

Edit: Also, it is HIGHLY recommended that a team stay in a conference if they have other teams in a said conference, rather than going Independent. The reason Hopkins is independent, is cause Lax is the only D-1 sport at thier school...and Loyola is because, all their other sports are so horrible.

Again, I'm not advocating that they leave, just saying that playing 5 games (plus conference tournament) against the CAA is killing their ability to schedule nationally, and thereby hurting their recruiting, their tournament preparation, and overall their program.

What more? How about Princeton? Syracuse? UNC? Dook? Georgetown? How about playing 2 of those 5 instead of UMBC and Providence?

All I'm saying is that having to play Villanova, Sacred Heart, and Drexel every year (and give me a break about Delaware and Hofstra, BTW - they are second rate programs, and you know it. And I think we can all admit that Loyola is quickly approaching their level too.) limits their ability to play top notch programs such as the ones above.

Even if Towson played the Ivies (Yale, Cornell), it would be a step up over what they are playing now.

You check out the schedules of Maryland, Hopkins, Syracuse and Princeton. Then you let me know how many cupcakes are on those schedules compared to Towson's.

[Munson]

Originally posted by theklaffer
And I think we can all admit that Loyola is quickly approaching their level too.
No way. Loyola has a lot of very good young talent. That team has the chance to be a serious contender in a year or two.

Towson is doing the smart thing by playing in the CAA. They will get the automatic bid in that conference a lot more than they won't. I think that will help out their recruiting more than playing a tougher schedule will.

[Munson]

Originally posted by theklaffer

You check out the schedules of Maryland, Hopkins, Syracuse and Princeton. Then you let me know how many cupcakes are on those schedules compared to Towson's.
I wouldn't exactly be pounding my chest over the Princeton and Syracuse schedules.

[imagine29028]

The reason Maryland has such a tough schedule, is cause 3 of the best schools in the country, are in thier own conference, and then they get the normal every year games in (Towson, Hopkins, Navy) and then what's left over....


The reason Cuse, Hopkins have such hard schedules is cause they don't have conferences to stick to...so they can have more available time to bring in "big" schools, but even then, they have some cupcake teams on thier schedules.

I'm in no way saying Towson's schedule isn't easy...matter of fact when I was looking at it in Feb. I thought to myself, that it's quite easy this year. But let's not make it seem like they don't go out there and play a hard non-conference schedule....cause I'd say they do.

[mdpatsfan]

Towson gave Hopkins a hard time through three quarters today but Hopkins turned it on at the end.

Towson was pretty undisciplined, a lot of penalties called, a lot that should have been. They played a pretty dirty game, Hopkins took a few dives though and I think the officials just decided to let them play.

[imagine29028]

Originally posted by mdpatsfan
Towson gave Hopkins a hard time through three quarters today but Hopkins turned it on at the end.




exactly...and I'm hoping that the performance against Hopkins can convince the committee, that Towson should make the tourney, even if they don't win the CAA.

2 goal loss to MD (where they came back to make it a game in the 4th period), 1 goal loss to UVA, and a good showing against Hopkins. While beating UMBC, Hofstra, and Delaware, and Rutgers, who aren't slouch teams.

Like the guys kept saying on Channel 2 on Saturday...alot of top teams are gonna be in for a suprise this year, and are gonna have tough first round games....Hopkins or MD won't wanna see a Notre Dame, Penn or Ohio St as thier first game.

[imagine29028]

Towson wins the automatic bid for the tourney...with a win of the CAA Championship!!!

:D

[theklaffer]

OK, so now predict the tournament seedings. Here's mine:

1. Hopkins
2. Navy
3. Maryland
4. Syracuse
5. Georgetown
6. Princeton
7. North Carolina
8. Ohio State
9. Cornell
10. Towson
11. Rutgers
12. Notre Dame
13. Villanova
14. Army
15. Albany
16. Providence

Of course, the Notre Dame, 'Nova, and Army picks are just guesses. Could just as easily be Brown, Penn, and/or Hobart. And Providence is also a guess. They could lose today to Manhattan.

[The Wedge]

Oh god, if Providence gets in, their game will be the most boring tourney game of all time, if they play to lose like they did in their game with Towson. I'm still having nightmares about that game. Who comes all that way to just clock kill while down by 3 or more goals?

[Munson]

Congratulations to CCBC-Essex, they won the JUCO National Championship today. They beat Herkimer 16-15 in OT. I'm really kicking myself now for not going. It looks like it was a great game.

[Munson]

Here's the tournament schedule:

First round
Saturday
Providence (9-7) at Johns Hopkins (11-1)
Ohio State (12-3) at North Carolina (9-4)
Rutgers (8-5) at Princeton (9-3)
Army (10-4) at Maryland (12-2), 7:30 p.m.

Sunday
Towson (11-4) at Georgetown (10-3)
Albany (10-5) at Syracuse (11-2)
Hobart (9-6) at Cornell (8-4)
Pennsylvania (7-6) at Navy (12-2)

Quarterfinals
Saturday, at Charlottesville, Va.
Johns Hopkins/Providence winner vs. Ohio State/North Carolina winner, 12 or 3 p.m.
Maryland/Army winner vs. Rutgers/Princeton winner, 12 or 3 p.m.

Sunday at Ithaca, N.Y.
Georgetown/Towson winner vs. Albany/Syracuse winner, 12 or 3 p.m.
Cornell/Hobart winner vs. Pennsylvania/Navy winner, 12 or 3 p.m.

Semifinals
May 29, 11:30 a.m. & 2 p.m., at M&T Bank Stadium, ESPN2

Final
May 31, 2:30 p.m., at M&T Bank Stadium, ESPN

[imagine29028]

I'm not happy with Towson's ranking...of course...having to go through Georgetown, and Syracuse (at Cornell...which is practically a home game for Cuse) to get to the Final Four is a little rough...

I think our schedule was harder than Hobart's and Rutgers....

I am considering going to the 2nd round games in Cville...I think that'd be a much needed vacation.

[mdpatsfan]

I've been planning the second trip to Charlottesville since we were there for the Hopkins game earlier this year. Need to tell the wife shortly, I've already burned her out on LAX this year.

Towson will really need to step up to get anywhere in the tourney, shame, I was hoping for an all MD final four.

[theklaffer]

I'm a little miffed that UNC was 8th and Cornell 7th. I was hoping UNC and JHU would be on opposite ends of the bracket. I wasn't looking for a 2nd round matchup between my two faves.

[The Wedge]

Georgetown stuck it to Towson, pretty badly. Look out 'cuse.

[imagine29028]

Originally posted by Wedge
Georgetown stuck it to Towson, pretty badly. Look out 'cuse.


I kinda agree with the commentators...(I didn't see the game...just listened on WTMD) that Georgetown isn't that talented....they do all the little things, and hustle so they get great scoring chances...


the highlights I saw on CSN, had them running...and running...and running.

I'm dissapointed...especially since we had one of the best 1st line midfield corps in all of D-1, all of which will graduate. The encouraging thing, is that our attack has grown up alot, and will be even more dangerous next year.

[theklaffer]

Originally posted by imagine29028
I'm dissapointed...especially since we had one of the best 1st line midfield corps in all of D-1, all of which will graduate. The encouraging thing, is that our attack has grown up alot, and will be even more dangerous next year.

I'm biting my tongue, trying very hard not to comment disparagingly on Towson's NCAA showing. In fact, why don't I just leave it at that. 'Nuff said.

Go Jays!

[The Wedge]

No, don't bite your tongue. It's going to roll off anyway because Towson didn't show up yesterday. They played like crap and let Georgetown set the pace. And it's not like Georgetown were the underdogs, either. Meh.

[theklaffer]

Originally posted by Wedge
No, don't bite your tongue. It's going to roll off anyway because Towson didn't show up yesterday. They played like crap and let Georgetown set the pace. And it's not like Georgetown were the underdogs, either. Meh.

WHAT?! You mean a Tony Seaman-coached team failed to show up for a big game?! You're kidding!! :rolleyes:

I really didn't think Towson belonged in the quarters anyway, and I htink they ended up right where they belonged. They are a tournament-quality program, but they are not a top 8 team. I suppose they may break through once in a blue moon, but they just aren't on that level. Sorry to break it to you.

And FYI, I'm even less sprised at how UMBC has failed to become even a tournament-caliber program under Zimmerman.

I am a little surprised at how well Carolina has turned things back around under Haus. He didn't show much at Hopkins, IMO. But I guess he's at home in Chapel Hill, and he's doing a great recruiting job there.

Truthfully, though, Hopkins should have gotten Petramalla as coach instead of Haus. Even then, it was obvious that he had the talent. Most of us were incredibly pissed off that they let him go over to Loyola and spank us as an assistant a couple times instead of promoting him right off the bat.

But thankfully, everything is in its rightful place now.

[mdpatsfan]

I saw Pietramala at the ACC tournament in 2000 and talked to him briefly. He had just beaten Princeton or Syracuse, forget which, with his team at Cornell. I told him he should be coaching Hopkins, he said we had the right guy in Haus. I looked into it a bit further and found out Haus was Pietramalas position coach while at Hopkins.

It all worked out in the end.

BTW, the first year Haus took over a team that I think Seaman would have won it with. Haus did okay at Hopkins, just knew it was a temporary stop.

[imagine29028]

Originally posted by theklaffer


I really didn't think Towson belonged in the quarters anyway, and I htink they ended up right where they belonged. They are a tournament-quality program, but they are not a top 8 team. I suppose they may break through once in a blue moon, but they just aren't on that level. Sorry to break it to you.




:rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

the 2nd ranked faceoff man in the nation, one of the top 1st line midfields, and an underated attack, where the top scorer is a freshman, and a goalie that keeps the team in the game...


yeah...not top 8 quality :rolleyes:

[theklaffer]

Originally posted by imagine29028
:rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

the 2nd ranked faceoff man in the nation, one of the top 1st line midfields, and an underated attack, where the top scorer is a freshman, and a goalie that keeps the team in the game...


yeah...not top 8 quality :rolleyes:

You can produce your arbitrary BS rankings of their players all you want, it doesn't cahnge the fact that they aren't as good as you'd like to think. Did they break the top 8 even once this season? Did you not admit yourself that their 'one of the top 1st line midfields' is all graduating? Give me a break.

Towson isn't on the same plain as Hopkins, Syracuse, Princeton, Maryland, and UVA, all of which are elite programs with consistent Final 4 appearances and (except for Maryland) titles. They aren't as good a program as Georgetown or UNC either (now that UNC is back on track). That's 7 right there. So there needs to be 1 other program that is consistently better than Towson.

Honestly, that program is Loyola, who's having a down cycle. But Towson couldn't even fill that void this year, getting replaced by schools like Navy, Rutgers, and Cornell.

UMass is another one that could have jumped in to replace Loyola and choked this season.

There are 5 elite programs in college lacrosse, and Carolina is the borderline 6th (3 titles, but no recent success). Georgetown has establihed itself as a legitimate contender every year. Loyola has traditionally been there every year too. After those 8, Navy, Towson, and maybe som of the Ivies are in the next tier.

So, no, they are not a top 8 program, despite your high opinion of their players.

[Munson]

Originally posted by theklaffer

Honestly, that program is Loyola, who's having a down cycle. But Towson couldn't even fill that void this year, getting replaced by schools like Navy, Rutgers, and Cornell.

Even though I agree with you that Towson isn't a top 8 team, these really aren't three good schools to use. Towson beat Rutgers this year. This is the first year Navy has done anything in a good while, and Cornell hasn't done anything either.



Georgetown has establihed itself as a legitimate contender every year.
Georgetown may be better than Towson, but I wouldn't necessarily call them a legitimate contender every year. They haven't even been in the final four yet.

[theklaffer]

Originally posted by Munson
Even though I agree with you that Towson isn't a top 8 team, these really aren't three good schools to use. Towson beat Rutgers this year. This is the first year Navy has done anything in a good while, and Cornell hasn't done anything either.


Georgetown may be better than Towson, but I wouldn't necessarily call them a legitimate contender every year. They haven't even been in the final four yet.

My point about those schools was that they each made at least an appearance in the top 8 this year, something Towson failed to do. Rutgers was ranked as high as #5 or 6 at one point (after beating Syracuse), and the other two are in the quarterfinals. OK, so none of them are premier programs. I never said they were - they just filled the void left by Loyola better than Towson did.

As for Georgetown, you are correct that the words 'legitimate contender' probably should have been reserved until they make a couple Final Four appearances. Still, the fact is that they are of late a perennial top 8 team, and Towson is not, nor have they been in about 12 years. I therefore consider Georgetown's program to be superior to Towson's at this point (especially considering how recently they joined D-I and how quickly they've established themselves since they arrived).

Look, I'm sorry to be the guy who is constantly dissing Towson on this board. I really have nothing against them except that they hired the incompetant Tony Seaman. But I refuse to allow the inflated expectations of their fans go unchallenged.

Towson lacrosse is a second-tier program that plays a second-tier schedule and produces tournament-quality teams that are not good enough to contend for championships.

Oh, and BTW, there is NOTHING, I repeat, NOTHING bad about being second-tier in lacrosse. It means that they are consistently one of the top 10-15 teams in the country, which is highly commendable. They just aren't good enough to be considered among the elite programs.

[imagine29028]

Originally posted by theklaffer
You can produce your arbitrary BS rankings of their players all you want, it doesn't cahnge the fact that they aren't as good as you'd like to think. Did they break the top 8 even once this season? Did you not admit yourself that their 'one of the top 1st line midfields' is all graduating? Give me a break.




See them not breaking more than a #10 ranking means jack crap to me...you can't evaluate a team's quality by that. The only reason they never broke that top 10 is because of the losses to Loyola, UVA, and MD.

I agree Towson is not in the company of UVA, MD, Hopkins, Cuse, or Princeton.....I never made that arguement. But they had, and will have the next few years, the players, and the makeup to contend with any team in the country, and pull a few suprises along the way.

Georgetown simply outplayed them on sunday...I am not denying that...but to say that the Hoyas have a better, more skilled team than Towson is crazy. Besides having #1 faceoff man in the country, and an over-valued player in Hajj they don't have any spectacular players. They win, by out-hustling other teams, and by wanting to win more. And there should have been no reason what so ever, for them to play Georgetown in the first round....while Hobart got a higher ranking, and played Cornell.

Cornell, UNC, Rutgers, and UMass are all hit and miss...some years they look wonderful...some years they look like crap. I'll even throw Duke and Notre Dame in that category as well.

[imagine29028]

Hopkins handles UNC...


Princeton squeaks by MD in OT.

[mdpatsfan]

Hopkins/Syracuse and Navy/Princeton.

A Hopkins/Navy rematch in the final would be awesome. Both will have to earn their way in though, Princeton and Syracuse have made it quite a habit winning this time of year.

[theklaffer]

Originally posted by mdpatsfan
Hopkins/Syracuse and Navy/Princeton.

A Hopkins/Navy rematch in the final would be awesome. Both will have to earn their way in though, Princeton and Syracuse have made it quite a habit winning this time of year.

I absolutely despise the fact that Syracuse and Princeton are both back in the Final Four. I sincerely hope they both lose big, because the thought of either of them having another shot at a title makes me sick to my stomach.

Go JAYS! Maybe this is the year of the return to pre-eminence.

[Tank]

When is the championship?

[mdpatsfan]

The Championship is always on Memorial Day. This year it starts at 230, in the past it was always at 11AM. It will be televised on ESPN.

[theklaffer]

Serving notice about Hopkins' viability for next year: Expect no layoff!

Of the players listed on the starting attack, the first two midfields, the starting defense, the top two goalies and the defensive midfield, only three are seniors.

[Munson]

Great game today. It sucks that Navy lost though. Now that the college season is over, it looks like it's all Bayhawks until next year. Is anybody interested in getting a group together for a Bayhawks game? I'm looking forward to doing some tailgating. Here's a link to their schedule.

http://www.majorleaguelacrosse.com/0,5911,1_437_0_10804,00.html

[Tank]

I actually watched the game today and it was great. I thought Navy blew the game at the end, but what a hard contested game. I hate lacrosse, but I have to admit its fun to watch. Maybe I just hate playing it.

[UMBCOriole]

Originally posted by Munson
Great game today. It sucks that Navy lost though. Now that the college season is over, it looks like it's all Bayhawks until next year. Is anybody interested in getting a group together for a Bayhawks game? I'm looking forward to doing some tailgating. Here's a link to their schedule.

http://www.majorleaguelacrosse.com/0,5911,1_437_0_10804,00.html

I'd be interested in getting a group together for a game. The Bayhawks should be fun to watch this year and they should be even better once they get Mike Powell.