Survivor: Fans vs. Allstars.

[DuffMan]

For those that are following survivor here is the list of All Stars that will be the new season.

Johnny Fairplay (Pearl Islands), Ami (Vanuatu), Eliza (Vanuatu), Cirie (Exile Island), Jonathan (Cook Islands), Parvati (Cook Islands), Ozzi (Cook Islands), Yau-Man (Fiji), James (China), Amanda (China)

All of these people are from seasons that have occurred since the last All-Stars, with the exception of Johnny Fairplay, but that's fine with me b/c he wasn't on the first one and he cracks me up! of the other ones back I really like Jonathoan, Ozzi and James. Ozzi and James both dominated alot of their physical challenges so I hope the two of them last a while just to see them compete against each other.

The season starts Airing on February 7th. I'll definitely be tuning in, I'm just hoping that it doesn't air the same time as LOST!

[PaulFolk]

Wow. That's the first time I've seen that list, and I don't know what to make of it.

I assume previous winners weren't invited back (for obvious reasons), but it would've been nice to see Yul or Earl again. Still, I'm thrilled to see Yau-Man and Cirie, who were two of my favorites.

Jonny Fairplay...ugh. I can't believe they brought him back. Jeff Probst literally hates the guy. I've heard that Probst refuses to attend any Survivor events if Fairplay is there. Perhaps he got overruled by Mark Burnett on this one.

Also, on what planet is Parvati an "All-Star"? (Then again, I asked the same question about Amber on the first All-Star season, and look what happened.)

Interesting that they have nobody from the Palau or Guatemala seasons. I thought they might've brought back Ian (the dolphin trainer from Palau) or Gary Hogeboom (former NFL QB from the Guatemala season).

We'll see how this plays out...

[Tank]

I'll be watching. Since I've only seen the last 2 seasons, I can only comment on Yau-man, Amanda, and James, and I like their inclusion. They were my favorites from their respective seasons so thats good.

I can't wait for the Spring TV shows to get started, including the first ever non-summer Big Brother.

Also, Lost airs Thursdays at 9, and I think Survivor usually airs at Thursdays at 8 (right?), so that should be ok.

[DuffMan]

Wow did you guys watch the first episode last night? I was very impressed. I wish this was on a different night than Lost, I was still trying to digest this episode when Lost came on. Fairplay totally caught me off guard, I really thought he was just faking people out with his I want to go home schtick. I wanted the All Stars to win the challenge, but I should have known they would come into it over confident. I think after this loss they're going to be a bit steamed and come back and win the next couple. It's amazing how quick the all stars started scheming and forming alliances. It looks like Cirie could be the tie breaker between the two 4 person alliances of James, Ozzy, Parvati, Amanda and Jonathon, Yauman, Amy, Eliza. I really don't like the fact that James is paling around with Parvati. So I'm hoping they boot her at some point. I think Jonathon is smart enough and he's already recognized this.

As for the fans well I don't know they seem to have some oddballs in their group, but it does appear they have some good players as well so things should be interesting!

[Dipper9]

Wow did you guys watch the first episode last night? I was very impressed. I wish this was on a different night than Lost, I was still trying to digest this episode when Lost came on. Fairplay totally caught me off guard, I really thought he was just faking people out with his I want to go home schtick. I wanted the All Stars to win the challenge, but I should have known they would come into it over confident. I think after this loss they're going to be a bit steamed and come back and win the next couple. It's amazing how quick the all stars started scheming and forming alliances. It looks like Cirie could be the tie breaker between the two 4 person alliances of James, Ozzy, Parvati, Amanda and Jonathon, Yauman, Amy, Eliza. I really don't like the fact that James is paling around with Parvati. So I'm hoping they boot her at some point. I think Jonathon is smart enough and he's already recognized this.

As for the fans well I don't know they seem to have some oddballs in their group, but it does appear they have some good players as well so things should be interesting!

I thoroughly enjoyed last nights show. I like the players a LOT this year, on both teams. Plus there are a ton of hotties this season. The game play looks like they have once again thrown some new twists into things. It looks like this is gonna be one of the best seasons I've seen in a while. Hard to believe that already we have two couples. Wasn't expecting that so soon. I think although the favs have the experience, the fans have the heart to win it. I think the fans will dominate the challenges, even though they cant quite figure out how to "live" on the island yet. This will get really interesting in a few weeks after the merge happens. Looks like a solid season. Giddy up!

[Baroquen131]

I was pleased to see Fairplay get the boot. His lack of sincerity while talking about becoming a father was glaringly obvious, I thought. Was glad to see him booted early, as he really annoys me.

Thus far, the others? /shrug Ok, I guess. I'll watch because I usually enjoy the show and there's nothing else on at that point. But to me - par for the Survivor course.

[Tank]

I thought this season started off great. A lot of interesting things to watch for down the line. Joel vs. James? James has to ditch (or the other favorites need to ditch) Parvati I think if he wants to keep his head in the game.

I'm hoping Kathy is the first (or second since she has an immunity idol) to go on the fans side. Plenty of eye candy this time around.

Off to a good start IMO. My TV viewing will be in full force once Big Brother 9 gets under way on Tuesday.

[PaulFolk]

Good start to the new season. No surprise that Fairplay was the first one gone--that seemed like a foregone conclusion when I first heard the announcement of the cast. For a while it looked like he might actual weasel his way into a key swing-vote position, but common sense prevailed and he was given the boot.

The Favorites team seems to have its battle lines drawn, as ATBC noted. I hope the Jonathan/Yau-Man/Ami/Eliza alliance pulls in Cirie and takes down the others. Jonathan, Yau, and Cirie are my three favorites of the tribe, and the other four (Parvati/James/Ozzy/Amanda) are boring at best and irritating at worst. So hopefully things will work out.

So far, absolutely none of the Fans stands out in any positive way. Most of them are nonentities, and one in particular (Kathy) is completely obnoxious. If these really are "super-fans," would it be too much to ask that one of them looks like me? You know...a scrawny, bespectacled, nerdy type??

Does anyone know who Fairplay voted for? His vote was never read at council. In the closing credits, it looked like his vote said "I <3 someone or other." I wonder if he just wrote a message to his fiancee and cast an invalid vote. That'd be a first.

EDIT: N/M, I just watched the voting video on the CBS site. Fairplay wrote, "I <3 Ozzy."

[Pushmonkey]

it was for Ozzy

[PaulFolk]

The Favorites team seems to have its battle lines drawn, as ATBC noted. I hope the Jonathan/Yau-Man/Ami/Eliza alliance pulls in Cirie and takes down the others. Jonathan, Yau, and Cirie are my three favorites of the tribe, and the other four (Parvati/James/Ozzy/Amanda) are boring at best and irritating at worst. So hopefully things will work out.
Well, as you can imagine, I found last night's episode to be discouraging. Two of my favorites are at each other's throats, and the other one got caught in the crossfire. We barely saw any of Yau this time around, except when he knocked Fairplay's head into the boat (which was enjoyable). Now Jonathan looks like he'll be the next to go.

But man, Cirie is a skillful Survivor player. She was great on her original season when she twice engineered a split vote (which is very hard to do) to get rid of her target. And this time around, she used her power as the swing vote to get rid of exactly who she wanted. She knew that the Lovebirds Alliance would have no choice but to vote for whoever she voted for, so she refused to change her vote no matter what. And it worked perfectly. I just wish her target hadn't been Yau.

[Tank]

Yeah, Cirie got who she wanted out, but at what price? I think the way she went about it could possibly make the couples alliance get rid of her next, since they would still have the numbers on the other 3. Or maybe it has no effect at all, but I think she made a risky move.

[Dipper9]

Well, as you can imagine, I found last night's episode to be discouraging. Two of my favorites are at each other's throats, and the other one got caught in the crossfire. We barely saw any of Yau this time around, except when he knocked Fairplay's head into the boat (which was enjoyable). Now Jonathan looks like he'll be the next to go.

But man, Cirie is a skillful Survivor player. She was great on her original season when she twice engineered a split vote (which is very hard to do) to get rid of her target. And this time around, she used her power as the swing vote to get rid of exactly who she wanted. She knew that the Lovebirds Alliance would have no choice but to vote for whoever she voted for, so she refused to change her vote no matter what. And it worked perfectly. I just wish her target hadn't been Yau.

I am liking this season a lot. If things keep going the way they are, it may be one of my favorite seasons yet. I want Jonathan to win, but I agree, he may be the next to go on the Favs side.

I also agree with Tank...Cirie could be settting herself up to be knocked out!

[PaulFolk]

Yeah, Cirie got who she wanted out, but at what price? I think the way she went about it could possibly make the couples alliance get rid of her next, since they would still have the numbers on the other 3. Or maybe it has no effect at all, but I think she made a risky move.
Yeah, but I don't think she's in any worse of a position than she would've been anyway. No matter which side she chose, she would've been the fifth person in the alliance. At least this way, she got rid of the person she considers her biggest threat, and if she can hang on until the merge (I still think Eliza and Jonathan will be booted before her), perhaps she can hook up with some of the Fans and put herself in a better position. Basically, she had nothing to lose.

[DuffMan]

Interesting episode, damn Cirie had to go and rock the boat! It's interesting watching the faves, because you realize who are the truly crafty ones. I'm really annoyed with James right now, he is basically hired muscle. Parvarti is still annoying. I'm not to fond of Amanda on this season either. I still like Ozzi. Jonathon is still my favorite but he could be in trouble due to his big blow up with Cirie. The favorite side is still way more interesting then the fans, although you gotta give the fans credit after losing the reward challenge, have a miserable night in the weather, but then rally to win immunity. I'm curious to see where things go from here. I wonder if at some point there is going to be a random drawing to switch up the tribes at some point.

[Tank]

Yeah, but I don't think she's in any worse of a position than she would've been anyway. No matter which side she chose, she would've been the fifth person in the alliance. At least this way, she got rid of the person she considers her biggest threat, and if she can hang on until the merge (I still think Eliza and Jonathan will be booted before her), perhaps she can hook up with some of the Fans and put herself in a better position. Basically, she had nothing to lose.

But even being the 5th in either group still should have gotten her to the merge right? Most likely? I just think she would have been better off just quietly choosing a side. It just seems like she could've made enemies on both sides this way.

We'll see how it plays out. BTW, I'm a fan of Jonathon as well. I didn't watch his season, but hes definitely a player.

[PaulFolk]

But even being the 5th in either group still should have gotten her to the merge right? Most likely? I just think she would have been better off just quietly choosing a side. It just seems like she could've made enemies on both sides this way.
You may be right. But I'm holding out hope that things work out for Cirie (and Jonathan). I'd hate to think that nonentities like Parvati and Amanda would make it further in the game than the really interesting and smart players. (Full disclosure: I liked Amanda in her original season until the finale episode, in which she became completely lame.)

[DuffMan]

Wow how stupid are the fans?? The big dude just up and switches because Tracy tells him to??? What an idiot. He's so paranoid about people taking him out that he's more concerned about himself, he can't see that by the time they merge his team isn't going to have anyone left.

[DuffMan]

I'm curious to see where things go from here. I wonder if at some point there is going to be a random drawing to switch up the tribes at some point.

Well judging by the previews for next week it looks like I'm right!

[PaulFolk]

Wow how stupid are the fans?? The big dude just up and switches because Tracy tells him to??? What an idiot. He's so paranoid about people taking him out that he's more concerned about himself, he can't see that by the time they merge his team isn't going to have anyone left.
Tracy played that absolutely perfectly. She took advantage of Joel's paranoia ("Why are you letting Mikey call the shots? Get rid of him!"), and he fell for it, hook, line, and sinker. Tracy managed to save herself and both of her allies despite the fact that the three of them are clearly on the outskirts of the main alliance and are weak in challenges.

Tracy really knows how to play this game. That was superb. Of course, she was helped by the fact that Joel is alarmingly gullible and backwards-thinking. So far, he's voted out two members of his own alliance and none of the opposition. I don't know what his plan is, exactly.

Good to see that they'll be switching up the tribes next week. I only wish they could've done it early enough to save Yau-Man (yeah, I'm still bitter over that). But hopefully this will give new life to Jonathan and break up the boring alliances (like Parvati-James).

[DuffMan]

Tracy played that absolutely perfectly. She took advantage of Joel's paranoia ("Why are you letting Mikey call the shots? Get rid of him!"), and he fell for it, hook, line, and sinker. Tracy managed to save herself and both of her allies despite the fact that the three of them are clearly on the outskirts of the main alliance and are weak in challenges.

She did play that perfectly, although her two allies are pretty worthless when it comes to competing and even doing anything around camp.


Tracy really knows how to play this game. That was superb. Of course, she was helped by the fact that Joel is alarmingly gullible and backwards-thinking. So far, he's voted out two members of his own alliance and none of the opposition. I don't know what his plan is, exactly.

She did play that well, for someone as smart as her she should've aligned her self with some stronger players to improve her chances for advancing in the game. Joel is just a cave man plain and simple. That guy thinks he is way smarter than what he really is.


Good to see that they'll be switching up the tribes next week. I only wish they could've done it early enough to save Yau-Man (yeah, I'm still bitter over that). But hopefully this will give new life to Jonathan and break up the boring alliances (like Parvati-James).

I know your still bitter about Yau-Man, but this is still pretty early to draw for new tribes. They started at 20 and have only eliminated 4. I'm a big Jonathan fan as well so I'm hoping this helps him out.




I'm pretty happy that Ozzy found the hidden immunity Idol. I like him to and now that he's won that should mean he will be around for a while as well. I"m hoping someone finds the fake idol he planted there, that will be great!!

Final thought, how lame has Amanda become. She was a leader in her show, but among the favorites she's just a lemming.

[PaulFolk]

She did play that perfectly, although her two allies are pretty worthless when it comes to competing and even doing anything around camp.
Yeah, I can't believe Chet has lasted this long. He totally botched the swimming challenge a couple episodes ago, he doesn't do anything around camp, and he even said in this episode that his body had quit on him. He's lucky that he's on an ultra-paranoid tribe that's more concerned with voting out the strategists than the weak links.


I know your still bitter about Yau-Man, but this is still pretty early to draw for new tribes. They started at 20 and have only eliminated 4. I'm a big Jonathan fan as well so I'm hoping this helps him out.
Believe it or not, they've actually switched up the tribes earlier than this in a few seasons. In the Exile Island season (Cirie's original season), they switched the tribes in the second episode. In the Cook Islands season (Jonathan, Ozzy, and Parvati's season), they switched tribes in the third episode. I think in the Guatemala season, they switched in the fourth episode. Boy, am I a nerd for knowing all that, or what?


I'm pretty happy that Ozzy found the hidden immunity Idol. I like him to and now that he's won that should mean he will be around for a while as well. I"m hoping someone finds the fake idol he planted there, that will be great!!

Final thought, how lame has Amanda become. She was a leader in her show, but among the favorites she's just a lemming.
Ozzy is the only one of the Ozzy/Amanda/James/Parvati quartet that I actually like. I'm glad he found the idol instead of Kathy. I can't believe Kathy has been to Exile Island three times and never found the idol. She even figured out all the clues the first time, but she never found it. She's not good at the game.

[DuffMan]

Yeah, I can't believe Chet has lasted this long. He totally botched the swimming challenge a couple episodes ago, he doesn't do anything around camp, and he even said in this episode that his body had quit on him. He's lucky that he's on an ultra-paranoid tribe that's more concerned with voting out the strategists than the weak links.

I missed that challenge, but I heard he was utterly useless on it. Sounds like the water challenge from way back in the day (I believe it was Australia) where the one guy couldn't even swim so they had to help drag him along.



Believe it or not, they've actually switched up the tribes earlier than this in a few seasons. In the Exile Island season (Cirie's original season), they switched the tribes in the second episode. In the Cook Islands season (Jonathan, Ozzy, and Parvati's season), they switched tribes in the third episode. I think in the Guatemala season, they switched in the fourth episode. Boy, am I a nerd for knowing all that, or what?

I remember the cook islands switch. Jonathan wound up switching a couple of times and that ruffled some feathers.


Ozzy is the only one of the Ozzy/Amanda/James/Parvati quartet that I actually like. I'm glad he found the idol instead of Kathy. I can't believe Kathy has been to Exile Island three times and never found the idol. She even figured out all the clues the first time, but she never found it. She's not good at the game.


I agree with that. James has turned into a bit of a pain in the but himself, I thought he was being a jerk towards Eliza. He said something about mind your manners or something.

[DuffMan]

I'll chime in with more analysis in the morning, but how can that piece of crap Chet still be around. Serves Joel right for not getting rid of him last week.

[PaulFolk]

Once again, Cirie plays puppetmaster and changes the vote the way she sees fit. She seems to be able to turn any situation to her advantage. I really didn't believe they'd actually vote Joel out-- I thought it'd be Chet tonight, then Joel next time-- but man. It's crazy how all the supposedly strategic "alpha males" are getting picked off.

Wow, is Chet the luckiest SOB ever on Survivor, or what? I can't remember a more helpless contestant than him. I chuckled when someone called him a "sack of potatoes." I think an actual sack of potatoes would be more valuable around camp. And yet, Chet gets to stick around week after week because there's so much paranoia that everyone wants to get rid of the bigger threats. It'll be interesting to see how far he'll slide through the game despite literally doing nothing.

You're right, ATBC, karma bit Joel in the arse. Not only did he fail to get rid of Chet last week, but he failed to get rid of him at the first tribal council when he got suspicious of Mikey and voted out Mary instead.

If you watched the previews for next week (SPOILER!), it looks like Jason will find the fake immunity idol that Ozzy planted, and he doesn't seem to know it's fake. I can't wait to see what happens with that. I don't particularly like Jason, so I'd love to see him get burned through idiocy.

[DuffMan]

Cirie is definitely getting on my nerves she is causing so much trouble. She was trying to cause problems saying Joel didn't hit any of the targets in the challenge, but yet Chet didn't do squat in helping them get the puzzle done. He just sort've sat there. And then you got Tracy defending him as well saying maybe Joel should've told him which way to go in the reward challenge that could've helped out.

And Ozzy already doesn't like her much, but then he goes and votes with her anyway. I was also disappointed that he told half the camp about the hidden immunity idol. I think it would've served him better to keep quiet about it.

Chet is d-bag plain and simple. The fact that he's made it this far is beyond me. I know he will get his at some point but it can't come soon enough.


My big concern now is Jonathan. He seems to have hurt his leg pretty bad and if doesn't heal well he could be come a target to get voted out, or even have to leave b/c the leg is too much of a problem.

[Baroquen131]

Chet is d-bag plain and simple. The fact that he's made it this far is beyond me. I know he will get his at some point but it can't come soon enough.


Didn't get a chance to see the episode so thanks for the incidental recap. That'll save me some time! :D

My guess is Chet's still around because he's not seen as a threat. People don't mind taking him along - even to the end - because he has no leg to stand on when convincing the jury members to vote for him. The "I'm useless but still got here" logic doesn't seem to play well (while the "I'm a jerk but still got here" logic seems to play better than I expected over the years). So he's not seem as a threat. There have been some other lumps that have been as equally useless and gotten at least this far. If I get time, I'll dig around and find some. Irritating though.

Didn't like Joel, so nice to hear he got the boot. Might dig up the episode just to see his exit. Don't like Cire though. Sounds like she's more adept at the manipulations than I remember from watching her before. Bleh.

The fake idol teaser sounds fun. I'll have to make sure to tune in next week.

[DuffMan]

Damn! That sux about Jonathon. He was definitely one of my favorites. When he first got hurt I was worried something like this will happen and unfortunately it did. I'm curious to see if they will still have an immunity challenge.

[PaulFolk]

Bah. Awful break for Jonathan. Now my two favorite players (the other being Yau) are both gone from the show a lot earlier than I would've hoped.

Jonathan's exit was pretty emotional. It's interesting how much they all cared about the guy after such a small amount of time (especially since in his original season, Jonathan was one of the most disliked players by his tribemates-- but they were idiots). I think he was right when he said he would've had the game in his hands. He could've gone really far.

I was worried for Cirie for a while too, but luckily she seemed to drop off their radar.

Was anyone else, like me, expecting Ozzy to get voted out? Normally I wouldn't even consider it, but there have been so many random blindsides of strong players this season that I really thought it was going to happen. (Especially when Ozzy tempted fate by saying, "I'm totally safe tonight! Nothing could possibly go wrong!") How funny is it that Chet himself was the only person who could finally get people to wise up and vote Chet out? After all those weeks of barely scraping by because people went after bigger targets, it's almost like Chet was saying, "People, are you crazy?? Look at me! I'm useless! Get rid of me already!"

Oh, and...after seeing that laughably cheesy fake immunity idol (a stick with small eyes carved on it? really?), I cannot believe Jason actually fell for it. I can't wait for him to try to play it at tribal council and Jeff to toss it into the fire.

[Dipper9]

Bah. Awful break for Jonathan. Now my two favorite players (the other being Yau) are both gone from the show a lot earlier than I would've hoped.

Jonathan's exit was pretty emotional. It's interesting how much they all cared about the guy after such a small amount of time (especially since in his original season, Jonathan was one of the most disliked players by his tribemates-- but they were idiots). I think he was right when he said he would've had the game in his hands. He could've gone really far.

I was worried for Cirie for a while too, but luckily she seemed to drop off their radar.

Was anyone else, like me, expecting Ozzy to get voted out? Normally I wouldn't even consider it, but there have been so many random blindsides of strong players this season that I really thought it was going to happen. (Especially when Ozzy tempted fate by saying, "I'm totally safe tonight! Nothing could possibly go wrong!") How funny is it that Chet himself was the only person who could finally get people to wise up and vote Chet out? After all those weeks of barely scraping by because people went after bigger targets, it's almost like Chet was saying, "People, are you crazy?? Look at me! I'm useless! Get rid of me already!"

Oh, and...after seeing that laughably cheesy fake immunity idol (a stick with small eyes carved on it? really?), I cannot believe Jason actually fell for it. I can't wait for him to try to play it at tribal council and Jeff to toss it into the fire.

Jonathan was my favorite to win, and I am man enough to say that I shed a few tears last night. Literally. That was some emotional stuff. I truly think the dude would have kept playing if the worst case was losing his leg. Once they threw the "possibly fatal" line in there, that was the kicker. He must be one tough SOB though to play through that pain.

I was also expecting Ozzie to be blindsided. Glad he wasn't, although he better wisen up!

I cannot WAIT for Jason to play the fake idol. That will be quite entertaining.

[DuffMan]

Yeah I am still bummed about Jonathan he was doing well and with the switch he was in a very good situation. I was impressed with how he did in the reward challenge with one good leg. On the flip side how much of a baby is Chet. Gimee an Fn break. Guys I need to go home my foot hurts. Please Jonathan's leg was about to fall off and he didn't want to leave this nerd gets an eyelash stuck in his eye and he can't take it. I'm glad they finally wised up and realized how utterly worthless he is.

If Jon didn't have to leave the other tribe would've been down 2 players. They need to stop dragging and pick up the pace if they are going to stop losing all the challenges.

[NewMarketSean]

Chet is the most worthless human being I've ever seen. I wonder if the Survivor producers didn't cast him to see how long a jellyfish of a human being could last on the show. It was a good social experiment.

They guy and girl who were off the show in the first fifteen minutes of the first show a few years back did more that Chet.

[Doyle Hargraves]

Oh, and...after seeing that laughably cheesy fake immunity idol (a stick with small eyes carved on it? really?), I cannot believe Jason actually fell for it. I can't wait for him to try to play it at tribal council and Jeff to toss it into the fire.

Please, please Jason, play the idol.
I am going to be ROTFLMAO when the Immunity Johnson gets played.:)

[DuffMan]

For those who have been watching Survivor is on tonight this week not Thursday due to March Madness.

[Dipper9]

For those who have been watching Survivor is on tonight this week not Thursday due to March Madness.

Thanks man...I forgot about that! Is it a new episode or one of those recap shows? I HATE the recap shows.

[DuffMan]

Thanks man...I forgot about that! Is it a new episode or one of those recap shows? I HATE the recap shows.

According to IGN it's a new episode. And I agree those recap shows are lame.

[PaulFolk]

For those who have been watching Survivor is on tonight this week not Thursday due to March Madness.
Thanks for the heads-up! I would've completely missed it.

[PaulFolk]

And two more fans bite the dust. There's now just 4 of them left, as opposed to 7 favorites. I think we're looking at a boring "picking 'em off one by one" scenario for the next few weeks.

Too bad about Tracy. After the way she skillfully manipulated Joel a few episodes ago, and then conspired with Cirie to boot Joel, I thought she was going to go far in the game. But she got put into a bad situation with the switch (and the fact that her main allies were exceedingly useless) and that's that.

Ugh, Kathy's freakout/panic attack was maybe the most unsettling thing I've ever seen on Survivor. The woman was seriously melting down in front of our eyes, and it was painful to watch. I read an interview with Jeff Probst before the season in which he openly questioned why Kathy was cast for the show, and he makes a good point. How does someone who would freak out so dramatically ever make it onto the show in the first place? Don't contestants go through psychological evaluations and extensive interviews and so forth?

I have to say, the producers did a poor job of casting this season. Not only did I disagree with about half of their "Favorites" picks, but the "Fans" have been non-entities as well. Chet and Kathy had no business being there, and nobody else has really stepped up as an interesting character (well, Joel did, but only because he was a jerk). There's still someone named Natalie who has gotten about two seconds of screen time in seven episodes.

[Dipper9]

And two more fans bite the dust. There's now just 4 of them left, as opposed to 7 favorites. I think we're looking at a boring "picking 'em off one by one" scenario for the next few weeks.

Too bad about Tracy. After the way she skillfully manipulated Joel a few episodes ago, and then conspired with Cirie to boot Joel, I thought she was going to go far in the game. But she got put into a bad situation with the switch (and the fact that her main allies were exceedingly useless) and that's that.

Ugh, Kathy's freakout/panic attack was maybe the most unsettling thing I've ever seen on Survivor. The woman was seriously melting down in front of our eyes, and it was painful to watch. I read an interview with Jeff Probst before the season in which he openly questioned why Kathy was cast for the show, and he makes a good point. How does someone who would freak out so dramatically ever make it onto the show in the first place? Don't contestants go through psychological evaluations and extensive interviews and so forth?

I have to say, the producers did a poor job of casting this season. Not only did I disagree with about half of their "Favorites" picks, but the "Fans" have been non-entities as well. Chet and Kathy had no business being there, and nobody else has really stepped up as an interesting character (well, Joel did, but only because he was a jerk). There's still someone named Natalie who has gotten about two seconds of screen time in seven episodes.

I agree about Kathy and Chet...those two were worthless from day one. However, I have liked the rest of the cast this season. Johnathan had me in tears when he had to leave last week. I like the young chicks, but they are missing the "everybody's favorite grumpy old guy" character that I always enjoy. Its a shame about Tracey, but she always seemed to be so cold! ;)

[DuffMan]

While it's 4 fans to 7 favorites, there is also another disparity out there. 4 dudes to 7 gals. If the guys aren't careful they could be voted out as well.

I was glad Ozzy didn't get the boot. They would have been stupid to do that, I mean seriously who would've gotten food for them. (On a side note I have a beef with the later seasons of survivor in that they get wayyyy too much food rewards and food, remember the old days when they got rice and that was it?).
I'm glad they got rid of Tracy she got on my nerves and was always stirring up trouble. Although I will give her props for being one of the few fans with a pulse and even fewer of the fans who were really playing the game.

Kathy what can I say. I knew she was a goofball from day 1. This isn't much of a surprise. Paul I agree that the producers were lame for letting her on, but I'll ask another question. Why did she even sign up for the show??? I mean if she's a fan of the show obviously she knows what things are like out there on the show so what the crap was she expecting??

If she didn't leave and Jonathan didn't leave that tribe would be up 3 players right now!!

Now that were down to 11 I guess we can start talking about when the next merger will be. Any guesses?

[DuffMan]

Bump

After no episode last week b/c of March Madness (why they didn't just have it on Wednesday I don't know) Survivor is back on tonight. We are down to 11 players. You have to expect another merger to come in the next couple of weeks. I don't think it will happen tonight, but I will be interested to see who's next on the chopping block.

[PaulFolk]

Bump

After no episode last week b/c of March Madness (why they didn't just have it on Wednesday I don't know) Survivor is back on tonight. We are down to 11 players. You have to expect another merger to come in the next couple of weeks. I don't think it will happen tonight, but I will be interested to see who's next on the chopping block.
Yeah, I don't know why they took a week off in the middle of the season. I can't remember the last time they've done that.

Assuming no merge tonight, Erik is the obvious choice to be booted from Malakal, since he's the last remaining Fan. As for Airai, I honestly have no idea what would happen if they went to tribal council. They haven't lost yet, so we don't know how people are leaning and what alliances they've formed. I could see James getting booted because people don't want a strong physical player getting to the merge.

[Tank]

I would think a merge will happen next week, at 10 players left. Isn't that how it usually goes?

This year has been far from predictable as far as eliminations go, so it could be anyone IMO.

[Dipper9]

I would think a merge will happen next week, at 10 players left. Isn't that how it usually goes?

This year has been far from predictable as far as eliminations go, so it could be anyone IMO.

I think they screwed up last night. I have never seen someone so emotionally trying to stay in the game. Ami got screwed in my opinion. Plus, Ozzie plays the game with too much emotion and not enough sense. He votes Ami off because she tried to take him out? (Oh, and for the record, what she said was true, she NEVER voted for anyone different than what the group wanted.) Ozzie is gonna be one of the first to go when a merger happens, mark it down!

[PaulFolk]

I think they screwed up last night. I have never seen someone so emotionally trying to stay in the game. Ami got screwed in my opinion. Plus, Ozzie plays the game with too much emotion and not enough sense. He votes Ami off because she tried to take him out? (Oh, and for the record, what she said was true, she NEVER voted for anyone different than what the group wanted.) Ozzie is gonna be one of the first to go when a merger happens, mark it down!
I don't agree with the Ami stuff. We saw that she clearly did try to get Ozzy out in the last two tribal councils. If Chet had agreed to vote with her, Tracy, and Erik, then Ozzy would've been gone. The plan only fell through because Chet didn't want to do it, not because Ami was loyal to Ozzy. She also tried to cook something up with Erik and Tracy last time, but she didn't have the numbers, so she was forced to stick with Ozzy. She was being a really good actor at tribal council when she said she had stuck by him all the way. I don't blame her for lying, because she was trying to save her own skin, but I don't think she got screwed.

At least Ami was somewhat nice this time around. In her original season, she was a total jerk.

The game is totally up in the air at this point. I still think you could make a case for any of the remaining 10 people to win the game (except the invisible ones like Alexis and Natalie).


SPOILER ALERT (regarding the preview for next week):



Looks like the two tribes merge next week, as expected. And how hilarious was the conversation between Eliza and Jason??

ELIZA: That is not an immunity idol!
JASON: How do you know?
ELIZA: Because IT'S A STICK!!

I'm still cracking up at that. How fitting that Eliza once again proves to be the brains of the operation, yet nobody will listen.

[Tank]

I agree Paul, I don't think Ami got screwed. Erik had to do what he had to do to save himself, unfortunately for Ami that meant exposing her.

That preview for next week was hilarious. Jason sounded so confused. "Because its just a stick!" Classic. Although, its too bad he won't try to use it at tribal, a la Jamie last season.

I'm calling the winner right now. Parvati. I don't really like her that much, but I think shes set up very nicely going into the merge. I won't be rooting for her, but I think she takes it. I predict she'll be up against two weak players in the final 3. (Alexis and Natalie?)

[DuffMan]

I agree Paul, I don't think Ami got screwed. Erik had to do what he had to do to save himself, unfortunately for Ami that meant exposing her.

That preview for next week was hilarious. Jason sounded so confused. "Because its just a stick!" Classic. Although, its too bad he won't try to use it at tribal, a la Jamie last season.

I'm calling the winner right now. Parvati. I don't really like her that much, but I think shes set up very nicely going into the merge. I won't be rooting for her, but I think she takes it. I predict she'll be up against two weak players in the final 3. (Alexis and Natalie?)

If Parvati wins it I think I'll throw my TV out the window!!!

I thought last nights episode was pretty boring, at least for the first half. Although things improved in the 2nd half with the challenge and the whole drama involving Erik and Ami. After the challenge I was sure that Erik would get the boot (I thought this b/c I thought Ozzy wouldn't even be able to return until tribal council) once he did return I knew Erik would beg him to keep around and I think Ozzy likes the Hero worship so I new he had a chance. That said I was still a bit surprised Ami got booted. I didn't see the season Ami was on the first time around so I didn't know she was a jerk before, but I do agree that she seemed nice on this show.

Things will be pick up even more now that the merger is about to happen.

Dipp I disagree that Ozzy will be one of the first to go, just because he has the hidden immunity.

Two patterns I could see happen with the merge is one the all stars reunite and boot the fans that are left or, we could see the woman unite and boot the men (if this happens then I will change me prediction about Ozzy).

[NJOriolesFan]

I think the reason that they had an "extra off week" was because two people left the game early. Jonathan had to be removed because of injury and the wacko woman who runs a vending area at a golf course just up and quit. I still don't understand how a "fan" can quit. How can you know so much about the game and not understand that is tough and 39 days away from your family?

Maybe the fact that they had two leave early meant that they could have a week where they didn't show anything. Of course they do know in advance of final editting how many episodes they would have and could have stretched something out. I think the episode years ago where Mike got burned and had to be taken out by helicopter they didn't have a tribal council that episode.

By the way, the highlight for me last night was how hot Amanda looked. She was smoking with those pouty lips and bikini. Yummy. Did I just say that out loud??

[Tank]

I agree Duff, I wouldn't be too happy if "Parv" (:rolleyes:) won either. Just calling it like I see it. I'm rooting for anyone except Parvati or Cirie at this point. That will no doubt change as the field gets narrowed down more.

Yes, Amanda is hot. I think Alexis is too. But Mary was the best of all. Why did she have to leave so early!? :D

[cindyluvsbrady]

I wont miss Ami....No offense to anyone
Im pulling for Eliza or Ozzie to win!:) James would be good too!

[Tank]

I thought last night's episode was hilarious. From Erik making up the meaning behind "Dabu" and Jeff's reaction to Alexis' explanation of choosing it, to the whole Eliza/Jason fake immunity idol exchange, and then tribal council. Alexis referring to Eliza in the past tense, Eliza trying to play the fake idol, Ozzy's reaction, Jeff throwing it into the fire, and Ozzy's "Come on Jeff, that took me hours to make." Great episode.

Who goes home next week? I would guess its between Jason and Ozzy, if they can pull that off.

[PaulFolk]

Funny episode-- especially the exchange between Jason and Eliza, and Erik's random tribe name-- but I was bummed to see Eliza go. I was kinda hoping she'd win the whole thing. Nobody played the game harder than her, IMO. I really don't know who I'm rooting for anymore. I guess Cirie.

Parvati is just as snotty as I remember from her original season. "I can't believe Eliza tried to say she was loyal to me! Gawd, how ridiculous! What a loser!" I'm glad Amanda has caught on to her double-dealings, and hopefully she'll do something about it.

It'll be interesting to see what happens now that everyone knows Ozzy has the idol. My guess: they'll do nothing. Ozzy has too many allies at this point; nobody's going to risk turning against him. They might talk about it, but I don't think they'll go through with it. I think Ozzy will get to the Final 4 at least.

[DuffMan]

Sorry I didn't chime in sooner on this episode. I didn't get to see it on thursday as I was out at DuClaw. So on Friday I make sure not to read anything about it anywhere so when I got home from work I could watch it on-line. Well I get home from work and click on the wrong "survivor" link and bam!!! right on the front page is who got booted!! After I yelled a few obscenities at myself, I decided to watch the episode anyways. I'm glad I did, this was a much more entertaining episode.

I too was bummed to see Eliza get the boot. It's a shame that she had to be the one to play the fake idol, but she had to at least give it a whirl. She was a smart player and played the game well. She helped her tribe when a bunch of immunity challenges. I think if Jonathan had not gotten hurt she would've lasted a bit longer. That was one of her big allies.

Parvati is irritating!! She was acting like a punk when she was talking about Eliza, I too was glad to see that Amanda is pretty steamed about her double plotting and might do something about it. Although she is also kind of mad at Alexis b/c she is getting chummy with Ozzy so who knows.

I too am running out of people that I would like to see win. I guess i still wouldn't mind Ozzy but not so much as the first time he was on the show. Besides him I'm not too sure.....

The thing with Erik naming the tribe was funny as well.

Two best lines of the night were

"IT's a $%@!ing stick!"

"I don't care if we name the trade fo shizzle"

[DuffMan]

O snap, it's on now!

[Dipper9]

O snap, it's on now!

I gotta say it....BEST SEASON EVER!

[DuffMan]

I gotta say it....BEST SEASON EVER!

As long as they don't boot off the rest of the guys. I missed what happened before tribal council because I was watching the Caps game but I did see at the end that Cirie and Parvati switched. I'm really fed up with Parvati and I hope she gets booted soon. Great immunity challenge, although after 6 hours thats not how I wanted it to end. Seeing the preview for next week really has me annoyed. Natalie and Alexis talking about how the girls are going to rule. Please those two are so lame, no one even knew their names for at least half of this season because they were just a couple of sheep coasting around in the background.

[NewMarketSean]

Excellent season for a show that has run its course. I am loving this season probably more than any other.

I liked Ozzie but come on, dude. You were ready to stab Jason in the back. You even had everyone else ready to cut his throat too. And then you are cocky enough to believe that they wouldn't do the same to you?

Great episode. Things are interesting now with Ozzie gone.

James one-liners are great.

"He's a damn fool."

"What in the Nickelodeon is going on?"

[Tank]

I missed the first 25 minutes, but caught the rest. Ozzy should've known to use the idol. He knew they tried to get him out at least once before.

And as much as I don't like her, my prediction of Parvati winning is looking good right about now IMO. I think James is next, unfortunately.

[DuffMan]

I missed the first 25 minutes, but caught the rest. Ozzy should've known to use the idol. He knew they tried to get him out at least once before.

And as much as I don't like her, my prediction of Parvati winning is looking good right about now IMO. I think James is next, unfortunately.

I don't know about that she's starting to piss off alot of people. You know Alexis won't vote for her, after last night neither will Ozzy, and it seems likely that Amanda and James won't voter for her as well. That's 4 right there.

[cindyluvsbrady]

I missed the first 25 minutes, but caught the rest. Ozzy should've known to use the idol. He knew they tried to get him out at least once before.

And as much as I don't like her, my prediction of Parvati winning is looking good right about now IMO. I think James is next, unfortunately.

I sure everyone on earth heard me screaming USE THE IDOL OZZIE!:002_shappy:
I cried when he was voted off:002_ssad:

[Tank]

I don't know about that she's starting to piss off alot of people. You know Alexis won't vote for her, after last night neither will Ozzy, and it seems likely that Amanda and James won't voter for her as well. That's 4 right there.

If shes up against Alexis and Natalie in the final 3, I think shes a lock to win. Those 2 haven't done a single thing game wise, while at that point she would have made a bunch of big moves. I think the jury is going to give the game to the best player.

I hope I'm wrong. I'm rooting for James and Erik, or even Amanda or Jason over Cirie, Parvati, Alexis, and Natalie.

[PaulFolk]

James one-liners are great.

"He's a damn fool."

"What in the Nickelodeon is going on?"
Yeah, James is hilarious. I liked him during the immunity challenge:

(After someone else gets eliminated) "Man, that would suck." (looks up) "Aw, B*TCH!!" (water bucket dumps on him)

Crazy tribal council. I was legitimately floored that Ozzy got voted out. There have been a record number of blindsides this year, going back to Mary and Mikey and Joel, but this one took the cake. I never thought Parvati would have the guts to turn against him. As much as I dislike her, I have to admit that she's playing a pretty good game. I'm worried that she's going to win the whole thing, which would make me ill. She has a lot of power right now.

Eliza's reactions from the jury box were priceless. I thought her head was going to explode.

I'm still pulling for Cirie to win. Guess whose idea it was to blindside Ozzy? Hers, of course. Cirie hadn't been a big factor for a few episodes, but now she's back playing the game hard and picking off the biggest threats. The only question is whether she's already made too many enemies.

Erik is becoming one of my favorites. He's an endearing dork. His narration of the feast was great.

[Baroquen131]

Can't stand Cirie either.

Was surprised that Ozzie got eliminated. I love the comment James made when casting his vote for Jason - "I thought I was the dumbest survivor ever". Funny because another immunity went unplayed, making him look not-so-dumb, but he wasn't aware of the blindside making him look kinda dumb again. I suspect he's gone next week too. I'll miss him.

Erik and Jason are buffoons. The girls are pretty vapid too. We're fast running out of interesting characters. /shrug

BTW - CBS.com is running little web shorts about life after getting voted off. It's interesting seeing the behind the scenes stuff, but it's annoying listening to Eliza.

[PaulFolk]

I'm not sure why Cirie is so disliked around here. Other than kind of being a jerk to Jonathan in an early episode, I've always thought she was a pretty pleasant person, and she always has some good sound bites. In her original season, she was awesome.

[TonySoprano]

Wasn't Fairplay's 15 minutes long over when Bonaduce slammed him on the stage (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r1_VjxFTUmM)?

[birdsfan4ever]

If James and Erik were smart they wouldve told Jason he was going so he would use the idol and they couldve gotten rid of Parvarti.

[Baroquen131]

So that's the last three immunity idols that didn't get used because the owners got voted out, right? Jason, Ozzie, and James the last time?

I think it's kind of funny that they're putting another one out there for next episode. James's finger is looking pretty rough. And it looks like Natalie officially wins the Courtney/Skeletor award this season (well aside from her floatation devices). She also has overtaken Cirie as my least liked player remaining.

[PaulFolk]

Jason is officially the dumbest Survivor ever. How on earth can you not even play your immunity idol when you're clearly the outcast of the group? What reason did he have to trust Natalie and the others? And this after he foolishly bailed out of the immunity challenge last week (he was only saved from that mistake by Cirie and Parvati's plotting). I can't believe this guy was considered a "Fan" of Survivor. He has no idea what he's doing.

This is the first time all season that Natalie has had any screen time whatsoever, and I'm starting to see why. She's an oddball. "I'm so aggro right now! Why you trippin'? I'm going to cut out his jugular and floss my teeth with it!" (makes flossing motions)

[Tank]

If James and Erik were smart they wouldve told Jason he was going so he would use the idol and they couldve gotten rid of Parvarti.

Thats what my girlfriend and I were saying to each other. James, Jason, Erik, and Amanda could have really shocked the girl's alliance and taken control of the game. James and Amanda just resigned themselves to hoping Jason didn't use the idol. Thats going to cost them the game, because Erik and James are next on the chopping block, then probably Amanda.

And I agree with Baroquen and Paul, I liked it better when Natalie didn't get any screen time.

[cindyluvsbrady]

Jason is officially the dumbest Survivor ever. How on earth can you not even play your immunity idol when you're clearly the outcast of the group? What reason did he have to trust Natalie and the others? And this after he foolishly bailed out of the immunity challenge last week (he was only saved from that mistake by Cirie and Parvati's plotting). I can't believe this guy was considered a "Fan" of Survivor. He has no idea what he's doing.

This is the first time all season that Natalie has had any screen time whatsoever, and I'm starting to see why. She's an oddball. "I'm so aggro right now! Why you trippin'? I'm going to cut out his jugular and floss my teeth with it!" (makes flossing motions)

You are right about Jason!:eek:I was screaming at the TV! What is wrong with you Jason?
I cannot post on here what I think of Natalie:mad:

[DuffMan]

Jason is officially the dumbest Survivor ever. How on earth can you not even play your immunity idol when you're clearly the outcast of the group? What reason did he have to trust Natalie and the others? And this after he foolishly bailed out of the immunity challenge last week (he was only saved from that mistake by Cirie and Parvati's plotting). I can't believe this guy was considered a "Fan" of Survivor. He has no idea what he's doing.

This is the first time all season that Natalie has had any screen time whatsoever, and I'm starting to see why. She's an oddball. "I'm so aggro right now! Why you trippin'? I'm going to cut out his jugular and floss my teeth with it!" (makes flossing motions)

So I've been out of town and havn't had the chance to post my thoughts on the episode, but I pretty much agree with everything that that's been said.

Jason is a moron. For a supposed "fan" of the show he is totally clueless. He got lucky when he didn't get voted off before but he didn't learn anything from his mistakes. The only good thing is that it kept James around.

Natalie is a punk. You havn't made yourself known the entire season and only now people know your name because there are only a few people left and they have to put a camera on someone! "Don't be hogging all the cake ya all. I'm hungry for real!" I know she said a bunch of other BS, but I guess I've done my best to block it out.

I'm hoping that they don't boot James and Erik the next two weeks, b/c I really don't want to see it come down to just the girls.

Best moment of the night was when James announced that Parvati was the won that switched on her vote and you see Ozzy on the jury saing "#*#*h!"

[DuffMan]

Damn! This sucks!! This has got to be some kind of record for people leaving with medical issues.

[DuffMan]

Erik please win immunity! Please!!!

[DuffMan]

Erik please win immunity! Please!!!

Nice!!! Good job Erik!!!

Should be interesting to see who gets booted now.

Yes I just quoted myself!:D

[cindyluvsbrady]

I am very sad about James!:002_ssad:

[Baroquen131]

Sucks about James. He was always good for a sound bite.

Excellent play by Amanda. Of course, does this make her a target for next time, or a swing vote?

And still hating Skeletor... liked her better when she didn't get screen time.

[DuffMan]

Sucks about James. He was always good for a sound bite.

Excellent play by Amanda. Of course, does this make her a target for next time, or a swing vote?

And still hating Skeletor... liked her better when she didn't get screen time.

Skeletor does need to go, but it makes things more interesting with a villian around. I didn't even know Alexis name until half way through the shoe, even here towards the end she wasn't getting much screen time.

[PaulFolk]

Wow. Great tribal council. I like confident, playful Amanda much more than downbeat, self-pitying Amanda. She'd pretty much been the latter ever since the last episode of last season, so it was nice to see her come back out of her shell when she played the idol.

I only wish it was Natalie instead of Alexis they had voted out. Alexis was a non-entity, but at least she wasn't a jerk. And I'd much prefer to look at her than shrunken-face Skeletor over there.

Isn't it amazing how nobody ever even thinks about voting out Cirie? After Erik won immunity, the discussion was pretty much, "Well, our only choices are Alexis, Natalie, Parvati, or Amanda." I don't know how Cirie manages to stay so under the radar when she makes so many big moves against people. I think she's in a pretty good position to win it all.

[Tank]

Wow. Great tribal council. I like confident, playful Amanda much more than downbeat, self-pitying Amanda. She'd pretty much been the latter ever since the last episode of last season, so it was nice to see her come back out of her shell when she played the idol.

I only wish it was Natalie instead of Alexis they had voted out. Alexis was a non-entity, but at least she wasn't a jerk. And I'd much prefer to look at her than shrunken-face Skeletor over there.

Isn't it amazing how nobody ever even thinks about voting out Cirie? After Erik won immunity, the discussion was pretty much, "Well, our only choices are Alexis, Natalie, Parvati, or Amanda." I don't know how Cirie manages to stay so under the radar when she makes so many big moves against people. I think she's in a pretty good position to win it all.

I agree with every word of this post.

I was shocked that they didn't even bring up Cirie's name. Why would you want to get rid of someone who has done literally nothing in the game? And Natalie seemed like the right choice out of her and Alexis anyway. Alexis had a bum knee... why not keep her around knowing shes probably not going to be winning any competitions with that?

Oh well, I'm glad Amanda didn't get voted out. I'm rooting for her and Erik.

[Baroquen131]

Erik's a tool...

I think Alexis was viewed as more sympathetic by the jury, thus more of a game-winning threat, if not an immunity threat. Does anyone on the jury really like Natalie? Doubtful.

Overall, though, the favorites have pretty much schooled the fans... especially considering 2 of their group left via medical issues.

[PaulFolk]

So with 5 people left, who's your pick to win?

I say Cirie, with Amanda a close second choice. I don't want to see any of the others win. Parvati has played a very good game but is kind of a jerk. Erik is the opposite-- he seems like a nice guy, but he hasn't played a great game or done anything deserving of winning. And in the slim chance that Natalie somehow wins, I'm sure a lot of fans will swear off Survivor forever. But that doesn't seem likely-- if she were going to win, the editors wouldn't have ignored her for nearly the entire season.

[Tank]

So with 5 people left, who's your pick to win?

I say Cirie, with Amanda a close second choice. I don't want to see any of the others win. Parvati has played a very good game but is kind of a jerk. Erik is the opposite-- he seems like a nice guy, but he hasn't played a great game or done anything deserving of winning. And in the slim chance that Natalie somehow wins, I'm sure a lot of fans will swear off Survivor forever. But that doesn't seem likely-- if she were going to win, the editors wouldn't have ignored her for nearly the entire season.

Who I want to win? Amanda

Who I predicted to win weeks ago and still see it happening? Parvati

[DuffMan]

Who I want to win? Amanda

Who I predicted to win weeks ago and still see it happening? Parvati

Tank I have to disagree with you about Parvati. She has pissed off way too many people to win. Of the people on the jury right now who do you even see voting for her, maybe Alexis, but after that whole "o your hurt we can vote you off" comment she might not be too keen on voting for Parvati. No way is Ozzy voting for her after getting blindsided like that. And she was a total jerk to Eliza so I don't see her voting for her. James I'm not too sure about but if i had to guess I would say no.

As for who I would like to see win would be Erik or Amanda.

I don't want Cirie to win, but could deal with that.

If Parvati or Natalie win I may need to buy a new HDTV!

[Tank]

Tank I have to disagree with you about Parvati. She has pissed off way too many people to win. Of the people on the jury right now who do you even see voting for her, maybe Alexis, but after that whole "o your hurt we can vote you off" comment she might not be too keen on voting for Parvati. No way is Ozzy voting for her after getting blindsided like that. And she was a total jerk to Eliza so I don't see her voting for her. James I'm not too sure about but if i had to guess I would say no.

As for who I would like to see win would be Erik or Amanda.

I don't want Cirie to win, but could deal with that.

If Parvati or Natalie win I may need to buy a new HDTV!

I think if shes in the finals with Natalie and Erik, she would win easily. Maybe Ozzie votes for her BECAUSE she got him out, if he gets over being bitter. I don't know, I hope you're right.

I hope she gets voted off this Thursday. I'd rather be wrong than have her win it.

[cindyluvsbrady]

Tank I have to disagree with you about Parvati. She has pissed off way too many people to win. Of the people on the jury right now who do you even see voting for her, maybe Alexis, but after that whole "o your hurt we can vote you off" comment she might not be too keen on voting for Parvati. No way is Ozzy voting for her after getting blindsided like that. And she was a total jerk to Eliza so I don't see her voting for her. James I'm not too sure about but if i had to guess I would say no.

As for who I would like to see win would be Erik or Amanda.

I don't want Cirie to win, but could deal with that.

If Parvati or Natalie win I may need to buy a new HDTV!

I would be physically ill if nasty natalie won!:angryfire:

[eb45]

I want Erik to win (at least partly because he spells his name right), or maybe Amanda. I strongly dislike Parvati, Natalie, and somewhat dislike Cirie. However, I think Parvati or Cirie will win. And I'm a little surprised at everyone giving Parvati credit for getting rid of Ozzy when it was entirely Cirie's idea.

Oh, and Amanda and Parvati, why Alexis? Why not Natalie or Cirie, who are definitely bigger threats? Makes no sense.

[DuffMan]

Wow Erik, come on man. Wise up a bit. It is funny watching Natalie be all ticked off and whine and complain though.

[DuffMan]

Wow Erik, come on man. Wise up a bit. It is funny watching Natalie be all ticked off and whine and complain though.

If he gives up immunity this could be the dumbest move of all time!! Haven't you seen all the blindsides that have happened already?

[Baroquen131]

Best episode ever! LOL! :laughlol:

The guy is winning ever challenge by a mile.. and then gives the game away. Absolutely amazing! I loved how the girls' commentary as they cast their votes. Very funny....

[DuffMan]

Best episode ever! LOL! :laughlol:

The guy is winning ever challenge by a mile.. and then gives the game away. Absolutely amazing! I loved how the girls' commentary as they cast their votes. Very funny....

Totally stupid!! Jason should thank Erik for taking the throne of Dumbest survivor!! For a bunch of fans they sure don't know much! Ironically if he had stuck to his original plan of sending Natalie to exile he might've been ok. She could've found the hidden immunity and he would've had the other one.

That said I don't know if I'll watch sunday, I really don't feel like hearing what those 4 have to say. I would prefer Amanda to win, then maybe Cirie. If one of the other two win I'm not going to be happy.

[cindyluvsbrady]

May Natalie be bitten by a snake!:angryfire:

[Tank]

Wow, that was a ridiculous episode. Erik... what a stupid thing to do. He even said to Natalie when she first told him the idea, "I'm not stupid, I'm not even going to think about that". Ahhh...

Go Amanda.

[eb45]

Erik was obviously thinking too much about who will vote for them on the jury, and not enough about who will vote for the other people. If Erik was in the final three with, say, Natalie and Cirie (assuming Parvati went last night, which she probably would have if Erik hadn't been so dumb, and Amanda on Sunday), who would win? I'd think Ozzy and Jason wouldn't vote for Natalie or Cirie no matter what. Nor would James. Then if Natalie and Cirie split the final four jury members (which could realistically happen), Erik would be an instant millionaire.

[PaulFolk]

Oh. My. Goodness.

Congratulations Erik, you just pulled off the single dumbest move in the history of Survivor-- and there's been plenty of competition for that title, especially this season. Giving up the immunity necklace was absolutely indefensible. There's only ONE CHALLENGE LEFT until the jury vote! And Erik would be the clear front-runner to win that challenge. If he made the final three, he'd be in good shape to win it all, since there are a lot of pissed-off jury members who wouldn't want to vote for any of the women. Even if Erik thought giving up the necklace would convince Cirie to vote with him, why did he think it would win him points with the jury? The jury openly burst into incredulous laughter when he gave up the necklace.

This guy (and Jason before him) give all Survivor "fans" a bad name. If I were on the show, I don't know how far I'd make it, but I'd at least know not to give up the one thing that guarantees your safety in the game.

Once again, Cirie comes out of it all smelling like a rose. Again, her name was never even considered for elimination (everyone else's was at some point). Assuming she puts on a good show in front of the jury, I think she's got this game won. Amanda is the other possibility. I don't see any way that Natalie wins, and Parvati is very unlikely.

What's with the record number of idiotic moves involving immunity idols this season?

#1: Eliza tries to play a fake immunity idol and gets voted out (wasn't really her fault, but Jason's for thinking that stick was a real idol).

#2: Ozzy fails to play his idol and gets voted out.

#3: Jason fails to play his idol and gets voted out.

#4: Erik gives up the immunity necklace and gets voted out.

This has been an unbelievable season.

[Tank]

Oh. My. Goodness.

Congratulations Erik, you just pulled off the single dumbest move in the history of Survivor-- and there's been plenty of competition for that title, especially this season. Giving up the immunity necklace was absolutely indefensible. There's only ONE CHALLENGE LEFT until the jury vote! And Erik would be the clear front-runner to win that challenge. If he made the final three, he'd be in good shape to win it all, since there are a lot of pissed-off jury members who wouldn't want to vote for any of the women. Even if Erik thought giving up the necklace would convince Cirie to vote with him, why did he think it would win him points with the jury? The jury openly burst into incredulous laughter when he gave up the necklace.

This guy (and Jason before him) give all Survivor "fans" a bad name. If I were on the show, I don't know how far I'd make it, but I'd at least know not to give up the one thing that guarantees your safety in the game.

Once again, Cirie comes out of it all smelling like a rose. Again, her name was never even considered for elimination (everyone else's was at some point). Assuming she puts on a good show in front of the jury, I think she's got this game won. Amanda is the other possibility. I don't see any way that Natalie wins, and Parvati is very unlikely.

What's with the record number of idiotic moves involving immunity idols this season?

#1: Eliza tries to play a fake immunity idol and gets voted out (wasn't really her fault, but Jason's for thinking that stick was a real idol).

#2: Ozzy fails to play his idol and gets voted out.

#3: Jason fails to play his idol and gets voted out.

#4: Erik gives up the immunity necklace and gets voted out.

This has been an unbelievable season.

Yeah, if Cirie isn't the next person to go and makes it to the final 3, she would have to win I would think. If she goes, I think Amanda will win. (As long as she doesn't bomb at the final tribal council again.)

[DuffMan]

So I missed the first hour tonight, but I am glad to see that they took it down to 2 people instead of 3. Glad to see natalie get the boot even if I missed it. Amanda was right on her assessment of Cirie is a good persuaded and could convince people to vote for her. I think Amanda just hurt herself a little bit though with her crying routine. That's what cost her on her last season. She got soft right at the end. I think she's still the favorite to win if she can have a good performance with the jury.

[cindyluvsbrady]

cindydoesntluvnatalie:angryfire:She is MEAN!!!! HA HA!!!

[DuffMan]

WTF was up with Natalies questions to the jury? She should not speak ever again.


EDIT. Is it just me or did Erik sound quite whiny??

[Baroquen131]

The jury questions have been pretty sad.

Neither Amanda or Parvati's opening statements did them any good. The jury was just dying for someone to tell it to them straight - that they played the game and played it well. Not sympathy crap... "thank you" for getting them there? Really? Amanda should have said something to the effect of she was voted out and was the only one who actually used an immunity idol effectively?

Eliza's still very annoying.

What's up with Ozzie professing his love? A little camera hungry. :p

Should be an interesting vote.

[DuffMan]

O man that was great!! Ozzy just reamed out Parv!!! That was hysterical!!

[DuffMan]

The jury questions have been pretty sad.

Neither Amanda or Parvati's opening statements did them any good. The jury was just dying for someone to tell it to them straight - that they played the game and played it well. Not sympathy crap... "thank you" for getting them there? Really? Amanda should have said something to the effect of she was voted out and was the only one who actually used an immunity idol effectively?

Eliza's still very annoying.

What's up with Ozzie professing his love? A little camera hungry. :p

Should be an interesting vote.

It's going to be close, but I still think Amanda takes it.

[DuffMan]

Who I want to win? Amanda

Who I predicted to win weeks ago and still see it happening? Parvati

Drat!! Good prediction Tank, I just wish it was wrong.

[Tank]

season.I'm calling the winner right now. Parvati. I don't really like her that much, but I think shes set up very nicely going into the merge. I won't be rooting for her, but I think she takes it. I predict she'll be up against two weak players in the final 3. (Alexis and Natalie?)

Damn, sometimes I hate it when I'm right. :D

I was rooting hard for Amanda to win, since she was the only one left that I liked. And shes hot. She just sucks at final tribal councils, plain and simple. And Natalie is ridiculous...

Great season though. I hope Survivor:Gabon doesn't bring too much of a let down. At least it will be the first season in HD.

[DuffMan]

Damn, sometimes I hate it when I'm right. :D

I was rooting hard for Amanda to win, since she was the only one left that I liked. And shes hot. She just sucks at final tribal councils, plain and simple. And Natalie is ridiculous...

Great season though. I hope Survivor:Gabon doesn't bring too much of a let down. At least it will be the first season in HD.

I agree with this when she's out on the Island, but she had on way too much make up on the reunion show.

[PaulFolk]

Also, on what planet is Parvati an "All-Star"? (Then again, I asked the same question about Amber on the first All-Star season, and look what happened.)
Heh! I just found this comment I made in January, before the season began. Oddly prescient, it seems. Still, I didn't quite expect that.

I think I said earlier this season that I'd be physically ill if Parvati won. Still, by the time it happened, I didn't mind it too much. There's no denying that she played an excellent strategic game. She was the only person who was on the correct side of the vote at every tribal council she was at. She put together the "women's alliance." She played aggressively, taking out the big threats when she needed to. She did more than just flirt like the last time she was on the show.

Frankly, when it got down to Amanda and Parvati, I almost preferred to see Parvati win. Amanda really irritated me with the simpering crybaby routine. Not just when she voted out Cirie, but before that, when she got all freaked out about some comment Cirie made at the previous tribal council. Seems like her blubbering annoyed the jury, too, and may have cost her some votes.

What is wrong with Amanda? This is the second straight season in which she went to the finale as the favorite to win, and then completely choked at the end. Parvati's answers for the jury were much better than Amanda's, IMO. Amanda just psychs herself out and can't seal the deal. She's no George Sherrill!

I felt bad for Cirie, though. She played a masterful game, as good or better than Parvati's. If it had been a Final 3 in front of the jury like the last few seasons, Cirie would've won the game easily. But the producers just had to pick this season to go back to a Final 2. I think that was the only part of this entire season that Cirie didn't have a plan for. She sounded like she was devastated by not winning-- she seemed to have the game in the palm of her hand.

The jury was ridiculous. What the hell was Natalie's question? I wish Probst had just said, "Natalie, you're wasting everyone's time with your inanity. Shut up." And Ozzy was incredibly bitter toward Parvati. He's someone who should recognize that this is just a game.

All in all, though, this was a really good season, simply because of how strategy-heavy it was. So many huge blindsides, so many shenanigans with immunity idols, etc. And while I can think of about 5 people I'd rather see win than Parvati, she deserved it as much as anyone.

[cindyluvsbrady]

I was not happy who won:(but I was glad James got some$$$$:)

[eb45]

O man that was great!! Ozzy just reamed out Parv!!! That was hysterical!!

Agreed.


WTF was up with Natalies questions to the jury? She should not speak ever again.


EDIT. Is it just me or did Erik sound quite whiny??

Agreed, but Erik seems to me like he's a really shy guy anyway, and he's not really comfortable talking when the spotlight's on him.


The jury questions have been pretty sad.

Neither Amanda or Parvati's opening statements did them any good. The jury was just dying for someone to tell it to them straight - that they played the game and played it well. Not sympathy crap... "thank you" for getting them there? Really? Amanda should have said something to the effect of she was voted out and was the only one who actually used an immunity idol effectively?

Eliza's still very annoying.

What's up with Ozzie professing his love? A little camera hungry. :p

Should be an interesting vote.

Most of the jury questions were awful. Jason's was the only one that really seemed like it would have decided a vote (and maybe it did... who did Jason vote for?). I got a major kick out of the shots of Jeff Probst, Erik, James, etc. while Natalie's incoherent question was going on. Then Parv had to ask her to explain it again, which was great.

Eliza will be a good lawyer someday. She's annoying, but she's very assertive. She means what she says.


I agree with this when she's out on the Island, but she had on way too much make up on the reunion show.

Agreed. Same with Parvati, though Alexis looked better after getting voted off.

[Old#5fan]

Drat!! Good prediction Tank, I just wish it was wrong.

Sorry, but I could not stand Amanda and here total phoniness. I disliked all the final four girls with a passion, but Amanda was the worst. She had that stupid look and phoney innocent spill when she tried to be every bit as coniving as Parvetti but wasn't as good at it. Parviti like the other three was a lying back stabbing two-faced b--ch, but at least she embraced it and wasn't phoney about it. Ergo, I am glad she won although her arrogance was annoying as was it with all those final four girls. They all need a does of humility if you ask me.

[PaulFolk]

Most of the jury questions were awful. Jason's was the only one that really seemed like it would have decided a vote (and maybe it did... who did Jason vote for?). I got a major kick out of the shots of Jeff Probst, Erik, James, etc. while Natalie's incoherent question was going on. Then Parv had to ask her to explain it again, which was great.
Jason, and the entire women's alliance, voted for Parvati. Ozzy, Erik, and James voted for Amanda.

[Dipper9]

For me, this was the best season of Survivor so far, and I have watched them all except for Season 1. I do have one question though. What would have happened if the jury had been split 4-4?????? :scratchchinhmm:

[DuffMan]

For me, this was the best season of Survivor so far, and I have watched them all except for Season 1. I do have one question though. What would have happened if the jury had been split 4-4?????? :scratchchinhmm:

Jello wrestling match???:clap3::clap3:

[Old#5fan]

For me, this was the best season of Survivor so far, and I have watched them all except for Season 1. I do have one question though. What would have happened if the jury had been split 4-4?????? :scratchchinhmm:

I wondered the same thing.:confused: For some reason I always thought they had an odd number of jury members at the final to prevent a tie vote.

[Baroquen131]

Why would they try to prevent a tie vote? I tie would only lead to further drama, and potentially higher ratings. I'm sure they were pulling for one. Maybe next time...

[PaulFolk]

I wondered the same thing.:confused: For some reason I always thought they had an odd number of jury members at the final to prevent a tie vote.
They always have had an odd number until this season. I'm honestly not sure what they would've done if it had been a tie.