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McLovin
01-14-2008, 11:56 AM
Starting a new thread rather than bumping the old (http://forum.orioleshangout.com/forums/showthread.php?t=49829&highlight=cloverfield)one...
What do people think now that more details are out? Do you still want to see this? I was psyched when I saw the trailer in July, but after seeing the recent trailer, I wasn't so sure. I went online and read a spoiler filled review, and the story and especially the ending have me completely turned off.
The Wedge
01-14-2008, 11:59 AM
You mean the film that didn't have a title and got stuck with it's "working title" because they had the genius idea to release a trailer without a title? You mean "Godzilla meets the Blair Witch Project"?
Yeah...I want to know what's going on, but I'm not shilling out movie ticket prices to do so. Care to lead me to the spoiler filled review?
I can't wait to see it. I read a spoiler free review that made it sound revolutionary. I think I'm going to go see it next Wednesday.
The Wedge
01-14-2008, 08:39 PM
I can't wait to see it. I read a spoiler free review that made it sound revolutionary. I think I'm going to go see it next Wednesday.
I hope it wasn't Harry Knowles' review at AICN. I could smell the buyout from here. Everytime he gushes so much over a movie, I start to gag a little.
Lucky Jim
01-14-2008, 09:17 PM
I hope it wasn't Harry Knowles' review at AICN. I could smell the buyout from here. Everytime he gushes so much over a movie, I start to gag a little.
Yeah. That review was a joke.
The Wedge
01-14-2008, 09:20 PM
The reviews I've seen (plus stuff Cary told me when I asked) don't make it seem revolutionary at all. Unless revolutionary is just mixing two movies together. Hey, people like Godzilla, right? And that Blair Witch Project had some good conceptual ideas, right? Especially the marketing...let's mash 'em together!
ChaosLex
01-14-2008, 09:26 PM
Here's a picture that's supposedly an accurate representation of the monster. For spoiler purposes, I'll post this as a link rather than a .jpg image.
http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b385/JosephJoeyJoe/CloverfieldMonster.jpg
McLovin
01-14-2008, 09:27 PM
The review I read basically described the Blair Witch Project with a big monster if the BWP had lasted about 30 more seconds.
The Wedge
01-14-2008, 09:28 PM
The review I read basically described the Blair Witch Project with a big monster if the BWP had lasted about 30 more seconds.
Oh...I have to wonder if that's the one I read before that was discredited...
Lucky Jim
01-14-2008, 09:52 PM
Sources say this might be it:
Link. (http://img259.imageshack.us/img259/511/monstersh0.png)
Lucky Jim
01-14-2008, 09:56 PM
Or this, which is similar to the above (but seems sharply derivative of The Host):
Link. (http://patrick.ripp.eu/images/cloverfield_monster.png)
http://www.scifijapan.com/Host/96.jpg
http://www.beyondhollywood.com/posterx/thehost2_1.jpg
I hope it wasn't Harry Knowles' review at AICN. I could smell the buyout from here. Everytime he gushes so much over a movie, I start to gag a little.
I'm not sure if that was it or not. But to be honest, I was planning on seeing no matter what. Yep, I bought into the hype machine. I hope it pays off.
The Wedge
01-14-2008, 10:35 PM
Here's an interesting (depending on your defintion of the word) tidbit I got from another forum. Guy there secured a midnight Thursday showing and said the guy he talked to was telling him that they have to take down the posters that night, and that new posters go up the morning of release...because those posters have the "real" name of the movie. If that's true...I really do hate viral marketing. That's just absurdity.
hanOverfan
01-15-2008, 10:33 AM
Here's an interesting (depending on your defintion of the word) tidbit I got from another forum. Guy there secured a midnight Thursday showing and said the guy he talked to was telling him that they have to take down the posters that night, and that new posters go up the morning of release...because those posters have the "real" name of the movie. If that's true...I really do hate viral marketing. That's just absurdity.
I think it's a nice idea though. I'm all for trying new things. But, the Blair Witch Project did all the stuff Abrams and Co. are doing, almost 10 years ago.
As for my "new" idea, I wish they would market a movie with no footage, no plot synopsis, nothing... and just let people go into a movie without knowing anything about it except maybe who directed it, and who is in it.
Sources say this might be it:
Link. (http://img259.imageshack.us/img259/511/monstersh0.png)
I laughed out loud at that. Nice work!
But where did you get that quote in your signature? My grammatical sensibilities were so offended that my face was twitching as I read it! I passed out somewhere around "sent to the smaller in a moment".
Lucky Jim
01-15-2008, 01:30 PM
I laughed out loud at that. Nice work!
But where did you get that quote in your signature? My grammatical sensibilities were so offended that my face was twitching as I read it! I passed out somewhere around "sent to the smaller in a moment".
That came from one of Boom Boom's "insta-translations" from a Spanish-language news source. I'll probably change it soon. But it was just so convoluted I couldn't help but make it my signature.
I saw an advance screening of this last night. I thought it was pretty awesome personally. One of the coolest, most intense movies I've seen in a long time. The camera thing really did the trick, it wouldn't have been nearly as good as a regular production. I'm going to see it again sometime next week. My expectations were easily met and surpassed.
And you do get to see the monster...
9.5/10
The Wedge
01-19-2008, 12:44 AM
Yeah, but you don't learn anything about it. I honestly didn't care that you never "saw" the Blair Witch back in the day, and honestly, if we had seen glimpses of her or whatever, but knew nothing about her, I'd have felt ripped off. Now, that's the case. I'm sorry, but movie tickets are far too expensive for me to spend my money to watch a cast of 90210 rejects run around New York running from a huge interesting monster that we learn nothing about other than it's having the mother of all temper tantrums.
cindyluvsbrady
01-19-2008, 03:03 PM
Is this ok for kids?
My family is big LOST fans
The Wedge
01-19-2008, 03:05 PM
I seriously doubt it's okay for kids. Older kids maybe. Teens. Nothing younger really.
cindyluvsbrady
01-19-2008, 03:15 PM
I seriously doubt it's okay for kids. Older kids maybe. Teens. Nothing younger really.
Thanks Wedge!
The Wedge
01-19-2008, 03:20 PM
No problem. I'm not really speaking from experience though, just what I infer from the commercials and the PG-13 rating.
I read a review that suggests they may have considered changing the venue away from NYC, that we're not far enough away from 9/11 to see that much rampant destruction in NYC. I personally probably wouldn't be affected, but there have to be thousands of people that will be. Interesting line of thought.
Yeah, but you don't learn anything about it. I honestly didn't care that you never "saw" the Blair Witch back in the day, and honestly, if we had seen glimpses of her or whatever, but knew nothing about her, I'd have felt ripped off. Now, that's the case. I'm sorry, but movie tickets are far too expensive for me to spend my money to watch a cast of 90210 rejects run around New York running from a huge interesting monster that we learn nothing about other than it's having the mother of all temper tantrums.
I'm fine with not learning anything about the monster. It would have taken away from the idea of the movie being just footage found on the camera. It was supposed to put you in the perspective of the people on the streets, trying to get away. Unless they had a TV report explaining everything about the monster or after the movie told you everything, I don't know how that could have happened.
Anyway, during the credits theres a whisper, that says "Its still alive" backwards, so theres probably going to be a sequel. If they do a sequel I would assume it wouldn't be from the first person perspective again and we would learn more about the monster. But thats just me.
Pushmonkey
01-19-2008, 06:22 PM
Yeah, but you don't learn anything about it. I honestly didn't care that you never "saw" the Blair Witch back in the day, and honestly, if we had seen glimpses of her or whatever, but knew nothing about her, I'd have felt ripped off. Now, that's the case. I'm sorry, but movie tickets are far too expensive for me to spend my money to watch a cast of 90210 rejects run around New York running from a huge interesting monster that we learn nothing about other than it's having the mother of all temper tantrums.
I saw the Blair Witch Project in Wisconsin, and the funny part of that was people were like wooow that must be real. Me and my buddy who were both from Maryland were like that was a good movie but not real.
The Wedge
01-19-2008, 06:24 PM
That's a symptom of the whole thing driving me nuts behind this...backwards? Why so secretive? I mean, I know why, but it seems rather transparent to me.
That's a symptom of the whole thing driving me nuts behind this...backwards? Why so secretive? I mean, I know why, but it seems rather transparent to me.
Yeah, I don't really get the whole secrecy thing either. At the screening I saw, they told everyone they had to turn their phones off, not just on vibrate/silent, and that if they saw anyone with their phone on, they would kick them out of the movie theater.
I still think the movie was great though. :D
The Wedge
01-19-2008, 06:30 PM
Are you KIDDING? What the eff, are they afraid people are gonna take photos of the monster you barely get to see anyways?
ChaosLex
01-19-2008, 08:11 PM
Saw it today. Between that and the Star Trek teaser, I'd say my weekend is made. :)
I'm going to do a little better than Tank and give Cloverfield a 10/10. Seriously, it's that good.
ChaosLex
01-19-2008, 08:13 PM
And by the way, that camera had to be the sturdiest I've ever seen. Haha.
mikeygale
01-20-2008, 12:44 AM
Overall, I enjoyed the film, and I'd recommend that people see it in theaters. Cloverfield earns its suspense with uncertain glimpses and quick cuts of, as the film's cinematographic locus himself says, "something terrible."
Semi-spoiler alert below. Fair warning.
I was hooked until the plotless film bogged itself down with plot. I guess "plotless" isn't quite fair - the plot is that some inestimable creature ravages New York. Okay, fine. The movie succeeds at first by showing this to us in flashes that do not allow us to fully comprehend what's going on; we feel the same confusion that Joe Yankee feels while everybody is running screaming from whatever is causing all of the running and screaming. If Blair Witch didn't scare you, you probably won't dig the way this is shot.
Two things bothered me:
1) The characters' collective decision to go searching for Beth, which seems ridiculous for everybody except Rob, whose guilt/love, I guess, overrides his desire to stay alive. I guess you can say that Lily was so distraught by losing Rob's brother that she wanted to restore her former lover's brother's semi-girlfriend...or whatever. But Hud? Sure, Hud's a sweet-hearted, affable dunce who always seeks others' approval and direction, but I find it hard to believe that he'd run headlong into the maw of the beast just because his buddy is going nuts over a girl. Maybe I'm just bad friend.
2) The ending. Come on. Why?
I was also disappointed when the movie resorted to standard horror film cheap tricks - monsters jumping out of dark areas to stab at people with sharp things in a flurry of screaming confusion.
Seven out of ten, though I want to rate it lower because I believe it could have been significantly better by changing only a few minor details. Ah, what could have been.
bgfield
01-20-2008, 01:39 AM
I was also disappointed when the movie resorted to standard horror film cheap tricks - monsters jumping out of dark areas to stab at people with sharp things in a flurry of screaming confusion.
Uhh, what movie did you watch? That didn't happen at all. At least not in the sense that it was intended to make you jump in your seat. If you're referring to the parasites in the tunnel, that wasn't nearly in the same vein as those "horror film cheap tricks" you're referring to.
I thought the movie was really good. I liked the ending, making it a bit more than just a monster movie. Though I do agree it was retarded that Rob decided he could survive long enough to run through a city being attacked by a gigantic monster who also had little tarantula parasites coming off of it killing people just to rescue a girl who left him a voice mail suggesting she might not even still be alive. And that everyone else went with him was also pretty absurd.
My main gripe is that the monster was friggin indestructible. Okay, it's supposed to have been some aquatic creature that's been sleeping deep in the ocean for hundreds of thousands of years. Having to endure the pressure of the deep ocean would make it pretty resilient (though one has to wonder how it survived on the surface, unless it ascended like divers do - taking hours just to ascend a hundred feet or so to avoid the bends), but still, it was being shot at and bombed and when we got that last good view of it at the end it didn't have a scratch on it. Whatever.
Also, if you're susceptible to motion sickness, do not see this movie. At least, don't see it in the theaters. I heard stories of people getting motion sickness from seeing the Blair Witch Project, but I was perfectly fine seeing that. With this movie, I had to look away from the screen on occasion. Especially towards the beginning, it was pretty bad.
HoodGuy007
01-20-2008, 01:46 AM
I loved the movie until the ending. There was no closure. I go to see movies to escape reality, not see the same f'ed up existance that we live in. :shrug: Whatever.
The Wedge
01-20-2008, 12:25 PM
I loved the movie until the ending. There was no closure. I go to see movies to escape reality, not see the same f'ed up existance that we live in. :shrug: Whatever.
It's not really the same f'ed up existence (beyond the rampaging monster). I've said it before: I don't want to watch the 90210 reject pretty people run like mad for a feature length movie while the really interesting thing is treated like there's no mystery behind it. I get the idea behind what they are going for, and I just feel, from everything I've heard and read, they could have executed it better without ruining the concept.
What would you have done Wedge? I'll tell you. Instead of them being completely shut out and in the dark, they are getting info where ever they go. As the info piles up, what would actually happen in real life starts to happen: info is conflicting. So now, they don't know what to think, and neither do we...but we were at least given something to think about regarding the mysterious beast rampaging through town. Not just "does it matter it's a big beast rampaging through town."
By the way, on another forum I got called a braindead dipsh*t (said only braindead dipsh*ts need everything explained to them) for thinking this way by someone who obviously felt this was the best movie since Citizen Kane. That doesn't help my disdain for the movie any. :D Especially when one of my favorite movies is 2001.
PaulFolk
01-20-2008, 04:00 PM
Saw this last night. I really enjoyed it. It was exactly what I hoped it would be-- exciting thriller/horror-type movie that was very fast-paced (once we got past the 10-15 minutes of character introduction). J.J. Abrams always = gold.
The only problem is that I'm not sure I can watch it again, simply because an hour and a half of the shaky-camera technique made me very dizzy. As bgfield mentioned, there was some serious motion sickness going on there. I had to close my eyes for several minutes at a few points just to keep from getting nauseous. It's too bad, because I definitely liked the movie.
To tackle some questions... (SPOILER ALERT)
Two things bothered me:
1) The characters' collective decision to go searching for Beth, which seems ridiculous for everybody except Rob, whose guilt/love, I guess, overrides his desire to stay alive. I guess you can say that Lily was so distraught by losing Rob's brother that she wanted to restore her former lover's brother's semi-girlfriend...or whatever. But Hud? Sure, Hud's a sweet-hearted, affable dunce who always seeks others' approval and direction, but I find it hard to believe that he'd run headlong into the maw of the beast just because his buddy is going nuts over a girl. Maybe I'm just bad friend
I didn't find that implausible at all. Rob had been in love with Beth since childhood (as someone mentioned early in the movie). If he thought there was any way to rescue her, he was going to do it. That completely made sense to me. Especially considering the fact that he had just lost his brother, it was even more important to him that he not lose Beth as well.
It also made sense that Lily and Hud went with him. Lily for the reasons you stated (not wanting Rob to lose the person he loved, like she just had). And Hud was Rob's best friend-- he was going to stick with Rob, no matter what. Honestly, I would do exactly the same thing in that situation. In a crisis like that, I would stick close to my friends instead of abandoning them and just hoping they survived.
The only person that was a surprise to me was Marlena. I'm not sure why she tagged along-- in the beginning of the film, it seemed like she barely knew most of the people at the party (Rob and Hud especially), so I was surprised she went with them, unless she was a close friend of Beth's or Lily's (I don't remember who exactly she was connected to).
I didn't quite buy that the subway was completely empty aside from the main characters. This is New York City, and not a single other person has found their way into that subway station?
2) The ending. Come on. Why?
Nobody said it had to have a happy ending. Having only one main character survive (assuming Lily survived after being taken off in the chopper) adds to the dark tone and the horror of the movie.
My main gripe is that the monster was friggin indestructible. Okay, it's supposed to have been some aquatic creature that's been sleeping deep in the ocean for hundreds of thousands of years. Having to endure the pressure of the deep ocean would make it pretty resilient (though one has to wonder how it survived on the surface, unless it ascended like divers do - taking hours just to ascend a hundred feet or so to avoid the bends), but still, it was being shot at and bombed and when we got that last good view of it at the end it didn't have a scratch on it. Whatever. .
Where'd you hear that about the monster? They didn't mention that in the film, as far as I know. But I agree with you that I don't understand how the monster survived for so long. They had an entire army, tanks and all, firing at the thing for several hours. Just because the thing is large doesn't mean it should be able to withstand that kind of attack.
PaulFolk
01-20-2008, 04:06 PM
It's not really the same f'ed up existence (beyond the rampaging monster). I've said it before: I don't want to watch the 90210 reject pretty people run like mad for a feature length movie while the really interesting thing is treated like there's no mystery behind it. I get the idea behind what they are going for, and I just feel, from everything I've heard and read, they could have executed it better without ruining the concept.
You've seen the movie, I assume? If not, it's a bit absurd to decry the execution of a film you haven't seen. Hearing and reading about it is a far cry from actually seeing it play out on screen.
The movie isn't about the monster. It's about how people react in the face of a crisis. The fact that the monster isn't explained just adds to the suspense and the sense of chaos that's going on. We don't always get neat, convenient exposition when we need it.
This isn't a typical monster movie. That doesn't make it any less interesting or exciting, though. In fact, I think it makes it better.
The Wedge
01-20-2008, 04:47 PM
If it was only about how people react in the face of a crisis, they could have come up with something besides a giant monster, which begs to be explained.
mikeygale
01-20-2008, 05:38 PM
It also made sense that Lily and Hud went with him. Lily for the reasons you stated (not wanting Rob to lose the person he loved, like she just had). And Hud was Rob's best friend-- he was going to stick with Rob, no matter what. Honestly, I would do exactly the same thing in that situation. In a crisis like that, I would stick close to my friends instead of abandoning them and just hoping they survived.
Yeah, well - call me a cynic, but I think that almost anybody put in a crisis like that would run screaming in the other direction, not tag along filming your irrational best friend on his quest to find a girl he slept with once. I agree with you about Marlena, though. Her accompaniment was such an oddity that I forgot about it when I wrote my post.
Nobody said it had to have a happy ending. Having only one main character survive (assuming Lily survived after being taken off in the chopper) adds to the dark tone and the horror of the movie.
I wasn't upset about the ending because it wasn't happy. I was upset about the ending because it was dissatisfying. If Abrams wanted the characters' emotional plight to be the focus of the movie, then the ending didn't do that aspect of the film (a total waste, in my opinion) justice. Monster/horror/disaster movies always get bogged down in sentimentality - will the hero return to unspeakable horrors to save the girl he loves? Will the best friend accompany his buddy despite his fears of *insert scary thing here*?
Cloverfield was interesting to me because it skipped all of this garbage and assumed an everyman perspective - some random schmuck who happened to have a camera, and we share his terror as he tries to figure out what's going on and get the hell away from it.
I think Abrams couldn't figure out how to end it, and as I sit here trying to come up with something better, nothing is coming to me. What if Hud had been the only one to escape? That'd make the camera's at least within the realm of possibility, and Abrams could have toyed with his guilt over abandoning his friend, etc. I'm just throwing ideas out there, but my point is that the ending did nothing for me.
Uhh, what movie did you watch? That didn't happen at all. At least not in the sense that it was intended to make you jump in your seat. If you're referring to ... that wasn't nearly in the same vein as those "horror film cheap tricks" you're referring to.
I'm referring to that particular scene, and I think it's exactly in that same vein. Why include it otherwise? It doesn't really advance the plot. An expendable character is expended as a result, and everybody in the theater jumps in their seats when Hud flips on the night vision. Would you like the movie any less if that scene hadn't been in there?
mikeygale
01-20-2008, 05:43 PM
The movie isn't about the monster. It's about how people react in the face of a crisis. The fact that the monster isn't explained just adds to the suspense and the sense of chaos that's going on. We don't always get neat, convenient exposition when we need it.
This isn't a typical monster movie. That doesn't make it any less interesting or exciting, though. In fact, I think it makes it better.
Saying that Cloverfield isn't a monster movie is like saying that Field of Dreams isn't a baseball movie. Call it a premise for exploring humans' reactions to crises if you want, but it's a monster movie. I agree with you that the lack of explanation or reason adds to the air of suspense, but I think that Abrams spent too much time worrying about tying up the loose ends of Rob's involvement with Beth. This felt false to me. In the face of a crisis, you're going to save your own life, maybe the lives of some family members. You're certainly not going to go parading around with people you are acquainted with filming your exploits and cracking lame jokes, as Hud does. As I wrote earlier, I can understand Rob leaving to find Beth, and I guess I can buy Lily and/or Hud, but Marlena? The whole group together? That just felt silly.
bgfield
01-20-2008, 06:59 PM
I'm referring to that particular scene, and I think it's exactly in that same vein. Why include it otherwise? It doesn't really advance the plot. An expendable character is expended as a result, and everybody in the theater jumps in their seats when Hud flips on the night vision. Would you like the movie any less if that scene hadn't been in there?
Lots of scenes in movie don't advance the plot. Maybe it was just to give the viewers an idea of what they're dealing with?
I don't know about your theater but nobody jumped when he turned on the night vision when I saw it. I'm pretty sure everyone saw that coming a mile away, anyway.
bgfield
01-20-2008, 07:01 PM
Where'd you hear that about the monster? They didn't mention that in the film, as far as I know. But I agree with you that I don't understand how the monster survived for so long. They had an entire army, tanks and all, firing at the thing for several hours. Just because the thing is large doesn't mean it should be able to withstand that kind of attack.
J.J. Abrams said that in some interview. I read it somewhere on imdb.com, don't remember specifically where.
bgfield
01-20-2008, 07:03 PM
Saying that Cloverfield isn't a monster movie is like saying that Field of Dreams isn't a baseball movie. Call it a premise for exploring humans' reactions to crises if you want, but it's a monster movie.Some people were actually calling this a love story, can you believe that? I can see where they're coming from, but that's a biiiiiig stretch.
bgfield
01-20-2008, 07:05 PM
If it was only about how people react in the face of a crisis, they could have come up with something besides a giant monster, which begs to be explained.
When I saw the commercials for it I thought it was about an alien invasion, not a monster running amok.. I think that would've made a bit more sense. UFO's would be a lot harder to stop, plus you don't have to explain where they came from since there's a whole lot of universe out there.
mikeygale
01-20-2008, 08:01 PM
Some people were actually calling this a love story, can you believe that? I can see where they're coming from, but that's a biiiiiig stretch.
That made me laugh.
mikeygale
01-20-2008, 08:03 PM
Lots of scenes in movie don't advance the plot. Maybe it was just to give the viewers an idea of what they're dealing with?
I don't know about your theater but nobody jumped when he turned on the night vision when I saw it. I'm pretty sure everyone saw that coming a mile away, anyway.
But why are there parasitic lice in the first place? The monster is terrifying enough on its own.
Jimmy The Greek
01-21-2008, 11:21 AM
Just to add my two cents...
Saw the movie yesterday. I was kind of excited (being that I am an Abrams fan and think the guy is very talented) but also very skeptical.
Overall I very much enjoyed the movie - but I think it's necessary to watch it differently than you would a normal monster movie. I think it was really effective in taking that genre of "giant monster attacking the city" and totally breaking the mold - because a lot of the time, movies like that are way too formulaic. I thought this movie did a great job of being really personal about it - and while I went into it thinking "I can't wait to find out what the monster is" - during the movie, I found myself not really caring about that as much. I thought the "90210 rejects" actually did a really good job of making the audience care about them.
That said - I can definitely see where some of the criticism comes in, and I definitely agree with some of it. There are definitely some liberties taken for the sake of making the movie longer and more dramatic. But I think that suspending your disbelief a little really helps, and if you look past some of those things, what you end up with is a really solid horror movie.
Wedge - I totally see where you're coming from, and I agree that the way the movie was marketed is very polarizing - it can either pump you up or make you feel like it's the most pretentious thing ever. I can also see how dealing with rabid fans will also be polarizing. But I'd recommend giving it a shot when it comes out on DVD and you can netflix it or whatever (I'm not about to act like it's definitely going to justify a 10 dollar movie ticket for you), and just go into it with a fresh mind. It's not (in my opinion) the revolutionary movie that some people are claiming it is, but I really do think it is solid.
The Wedge
01-21-2008, 11:40 AM
Oh, I had totally planned on seeing it, but not at full movie ticket price.
HoodGuy007
01-21-2008, 02:26 PM
Just saw it again, and I still feel the exact same way. I was really pulling for them... and I guess that I am too classical of a movie guy, that the characters who ended up dying had done nothing wrong enough to warrant death or the sad existance given to them in the end.
It's kind of the opposite of Gone With The Wind --- Scarlett gets what is coming to her for killing the Union soldier, not death, but a life of lonliness without the man she loves. What did the "90210 rejects" do to deserve that ending? I don't expect everything to end peachy keen, but I also don't expect the death of every character I have emotionally invested in either.
PaulFolk
01-22-2008, 10:40 AM
Just saw it again, and I still feel the exact same way. I was really pulling for them... and I guess that I am too classical of a movie guy, that the characters who ended up dying had done nothing wrong enough to warrant death or the sad existance given to them in the end.
It's kind of the opposite of Gone With The Wind --- Scarlett gets what is coming to her for killing the Union soldier, not death, but a life of lonliness without the man she loves. What did the "90210 rejects" do to deserve that ending? I don't expect everything to end peachy keen, but I also don't expect the death of every character I have emotionally invested in either.
Agreed. I liked the characters. They didn't seem like pretentious, spoiled, "90210 rejects" to me. They just seemed like real, generally nice people (especially Hud, who was sort of an affable dork). The documentary-style narration played a part in that, I'm sure. So that just made it all their ultimate fates all the more dramatic.
BTW, I heard this tidbit from a friend-- apparently in the last scene of the film, when the camera flashes back to Rob and Beth spending the day together on a train, you can see some sort of creature fall out of the sky and land in the ocean. Did anyone else notice this?
orioles119
01-22-2008, 11:10 AM
BTW, I heard this tidbit from a friend-- apparently in the last scene of the film, when the camera flashes back to Rob and Beth spending the day together on a train, you can see some sort of creature fall out of the sky and land in the ocean. Did anyone else notice this?
I heard about this before going to see it Sunday night with my girlfriend. I thought it would be after the credits, so I didn't bother looking at the final scene with the shot of the ocean from the train. I did manage to see the scene again somewhere on the net and did notice a splash the second time (only because I was looking for it).
So the timeline is - if the splash means anything - is that the splash occurs on April 27th and the monster attacks on May 22/23.
Jagwar
01-22-2008, 11:31 AM
I saw the movie yesterday... absolutely loved it. Very neat way of doing a monster movie.
I personally liked the fact that you don't get answers to every question, and that you have no clue how things work out in the end. It is not your cookie cutter movie where you get a nerdy scientist explaining where the monster came from, or a spotless hero swooping in to save the day. It is the perspective of one small group of people... anyone looking for a Godzilla type movie should just get over it.
EDIT: I did notice the splash in the final scene at Coney island, something falls out of the sky in the distance and splashes in the ocean. A satellite, or something else?
Moose Milligan
01-29-2008, 02:38 AM
I absolutely hated it.
I've never wanted to walk out of a movie theatre before.
The Wedge
01-29-2008, 07:11 AM
It really is like Blair Witch...first couple weekends and everyone was all over it...then people starting chiming in with how much they hated it...
Moose Milligan
01-29-2008, 10:46 PM
It really is like Blair Witch...first couple weekends and everyone was all over it...then people starting chiming in with how much they hated it...
Really? I haven't seen anyone else say they hate it.
I was happy when that monster killed everyone in the end...did everyone involved a favor.
The Wedge
01-29-2008, 10:51 PM
Really? I haven't seen anyone else say they hate it.
I was happy when that monster killed everyone in the end...did everyone involved a favor.
Hehe, good line.
I've seen other people chime in around the same time you did about not liking it. Not many, but it really reminds me of the hype backlash when BWP came out.
Moose Milligan
01-30-2008, 01:36 AM
Hehe, good line.
I've seen other people chime in around the same time you did about not liking it. Not many, but it really reminds me of the hype backlash when BWP came out.
I dunno, I'm just not a fan of movies like this to begin with. My buddy really wanted to see it, said it was like Godzilla for the new milennium...I'd heard good things, I really wanted to like it....but it just sucked, for a bunch of reasons.
Oh well.
I saw it again last night with my girlfriend who hadn't seen it yet. I stand by my review. I still give it 9.5/10. My girlfriend gave it an 8.5/10.
vatech1994
02-03-2008, 12:20 PM
This may be the funniest thread I've ever seen on OH. Good stuff. I haven't seen the movie, but I might see it now just so I can feel like part of the group. This thread is awesome.
Moose Milligan
02-06-2008, 04:58 PM
This may be the funniest thread I've ever seen on OH. Good stuff. I haven't seen the movie, but I might see it now just so I can feel like part of the group. This thread is awesome.
Have you seen it yet?
Jimbo81
02-16-2008, 10:45 PM
I just saw it today after drinking half the day at Duclaw's. I had read a lot on it during the past couple weeks so I new what I was in for. BTW I had my girl friend and my buddy with me. My buddy had all ready seen it.
Anyway, the movie itself was interesting but the plot wasn't very good. The things that were happening in the movie around them and the things happening to them is what the movie really all about.
Real quick does anyone know what happened to the girl who got bit?:eek:
NewMarketSean
02-18-2008, 10:20 AM
I saw it a week ago. I enjoyed it. Nothing great, but a fun time at the movies. I enjoyed the ending.
*** (out of ****)
Balmer Bomber
03-02-2008, 11:51 AM
I just saw it today after drinking half the day at Duclaw's. I had read a lot on it during the past couple weeks so I new what I was in for. BTW I had my girl friend and my buddy with me. My buddy had all ready seen it.
Anyway, the movie itself was interesting but the plot wasn't very good. The things that were happening in the movie around them and the things happening to them is what the movie really all about.
Real quick does anyone know what happened to the girl who got bit?:eek:
Her stomach exploded. If you remember just moments before he fate was sealed, a soldier gets rolled by on a stretcher and his stomach looks like it was blown up from the inside.
orioles119
03-03-2008, 12:50 AM
Her stomach exploded. If you remember just moments before he fate was sealed, a soldier gets rolled by on a stretcher and his stomach looks like it was blown up from the inside.
The medics also shouted "we've got another bite!" when they saw her bleeding from her eyes.
ChaosLex
04-25-2008, 09:08 AM
Figured any MST3K fans out there would want to know about this. :D
http://www.rifftrax.com/rifftrax/cloverfield
ChaosLex
04-27-2008, 11:10 AM
Figured any MST3K fans out there would want to know about this. :D
http://www.rifftrax.com/rifftrax/cloverfield
FWIW, I watched Cloverfield (w/ the Rifftrax) last night, and it was absolutely hysterical. It's well worth the $3.99 for any MST3K fans out there. :)