MacPhail??? More like MacFail...

[Baltimore_Bob]

Other than trading Tejada, what has this guy done???

He's not getting what he wants for Bedard, and could be burning bridges. Heck... seems like that already happened with Roberts. The Seattle deal is supposed to be done this week. He already screwed up the Hernandez trade to the Mets... And we still have Mora, Payton, and Gibbons??? I know Gibby is impossible to move, but that's his job.

Do you're f'n job!!! I'm sick of losing. We're a joke. Players are taking less money to play anywhere else. I'm sure Texiera wants to play here now...

[The Wedge]

Oh god. Seriously, you're not being original or funny or witty or any of that with the MacFail stuff.

[Fairfax Bird]

Other than trading Tejada, what has this guy done???

He's not getting what he wants for Bedard, and could be burning bridges. Heck... seems like that already happened with Roberts. He already screwed up the Hernandez trade to the Mets... And we still have Mora, Payton, Gibbons???

Do you're f'n job!!! I'm sick of losing. We're a joke. Players are taking less money to play anywhere else. I'm sure Texiera wants to play here now...

Is this satire? If not it would have been classic ... cause this is terrible logic if it is not.

[Winning_Season]

I knew what the end of your subject was gonna be when i saw the "Mcphail more like"

[The Wedge]

I knew what the end of your subject was gonna be when i saw the "Mcphail more like"

Sadly enough, so did I.

[Baltimore_Bob]

It's not too much longer 'til Spring Training. I want something to get excited about. I feel like a 45 year-old housewife. I've been with this loser for years, and I want some excitement.

Can't believe I just went there...

[The Wedge]

And again, fast food society strikes again.

What did people do in the offseason before the internet? Try some of that.

[Fairfax Bird]

It's not too much longer 'til Spring Training. I want something to get excited about. I feel like a 45 year-old housewife. I've been with this loser for years, and I want some excitement.

Can't believe I just went there...

Sounds to me like you need a woman (or man?) and not a trade.

Spring Training is a long way off. Things change very quickly.

[Dr. FLK]

Wow. Someone more skeptical and angry than me.

Look, we don't know what he screwed up and what he didn't. And, sadly, I'd wager that Tex really didn't care if he played here before this offseason.

I'm pretty skeptical about anything happening. But, let's see how the rest of the offseason pans out before calling him a failure. For now, let's all just be angry and complain about what he hasn't done yet. But, there is still time to right the ship.

[Del34]

I realize the frustration. It's hard not to be.

But I think it's a little early to start bashing the living crap outta MacPhail. He's said moves will be made by the last week of January. Give him some time. He's trying to get all he can for both Bedard and Roberts. You don't know what who he is talking to, what he's doing, or any of his plans.

I think we can all agree that the up and down rumors have really made this offseason upsetting, but I don't think you as well as other posters should start ripping MacPhail. I have faith in him to get it done.

I'm sure when he does finally do something...all of you MacPhail haters will be back, but instead...you'll be riding his jock.

[SacreBleu]

Get real BalBob!! This franchise has been going too fast too long in the wrong direction. It's unrealistic for anyone to expect Andy MacPhail to undo 10+ years of mismanagement in 6 months.....

[RShack]

We're a joke.
What's this "we" stuff? Speak for yourself ;-)

Or maybe you meant the "editorial we"?

If this was a message board in KC, you might have meant the "royal we". But it's not, so I'm guessing that's not it...

[StunninSteve]

Can't really blame him for trying to get the best possible package for his top trading chips... Even if it means possibly waiting until the trade deadline. He wants people that WILL help us in the long term.

He's been doing this for a long time, I'm sure he knows what he's doing. He knows what he wants and won't budge until it's met. That's the good thing about him as opposed to Douqette who wanted to trade Roberts and Penn for Giles and Laroche...

[RShack]

I feel like a 45 year-old housewife. I've been with this loser for years, and I want some excitement.
Poor lady. How long have you been married to her?

[Baltimore_Bob]

How long have you been married to her?

lol

funny

[Miller192]

He hasn't failed yet, his interim just isn't so hot right now.

[vatech1994]

Bob,
I took a look at your eighteen posts to get a flavor for your contribution to the board thus far. You've started five threads amongst your eighteen posts and all of them were as inciteful as this one. You're off to an excellent start.

[Moose Milligan]

Bob,
I took a look at your eighteen posts to get a flavor for your contribution to the board thus far. You've started five threads amongst your eighteen posts and all of them were as inciteful as this one. You're off to an excellent start.

Something tells me he's really not concerned with that ;)

[Baltimore_Bob]

Bob,
I took a look at your eighteen posts to get a flavor for your contribution to the board thus far. You've started five threads amongst your eighteen posts and all of them were as inciteful as this one. You're off to an excellent start.

Thanks pal...

You must be one of the "Insiders"

[Moose Milligan]

Thanks pal...

You must be one of the "Insiders"

vatech1994 isn't an "insider" but he's one of the most respected and knowledgable posters on the board....

...claims you can't make.

[Mad Mark]

LOSER! (http://blogs.britannica.com/blog/main/wp-content/uploads/2007/03/image9.jpg)

LOSER! (http://blog.com.np/wp-content/uploads/2006/12/saddam_hussein_execution.jpg)

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NOT SO MUCH (http://mlb.mlb.com/images/2007/06/20/D2U74pZj.jpg)

Got the picture???

[Belkast]

LOSER! (http://blogs.britannica.com/blog/main/wp-content/uploads/2007/03/image9.jpg)

LOSER! (http://blog.com.np/wp-content/uploads/2006/12/saddam_hussein_execution.jpg)

LOSER! (http://earsucker.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/09/chris-crocker.jpg)

NOT SO MUCH (http://mlb.mlb.com/images/2007/06/20/D2U74pZj.jpg)

Got the picture???

I don't care who you are...that's funny!!!!

[glenn__davis]

Is this Bob from Parkville?

[BaltimoreTerp]

These are the kinds of people I'm glad to see run-off with another team. They drag the rest of us down.

After ten years, either you are patient enough to wait an entire offseason, or you really shouldn't have stuck around in the first place.

[Echoes]

Wow, what a disappointment... and I actually believed that the Orioles were going to seriously try to rebuild this offseason. So instead of a legitimate rebuilding, it's just another year of wishy washy retooling with a group of disillusioned veterans who don't know a thing about winning baseball and a bunch of young players who aren't talented enough to make a difference in either the level of play or that line of thinking because their farm system is simply not that good at this point. I would've been okay with another bad year had it been done on the basis of trading away guys who obviously don't want to be in Baltimore (Bedard, Mora) or aging veterans who won't be contributing if and when the Orioles finally have a chance to compete (Payton, Millar, and a plethora of others). But how has MacPhail made this team any better in the long run? He hasn't. And he's only made them worse by trading their best player and biggest bat in the lineup. The Orioles will be lucky to have 2 guys break 20 homers next year. Good lord, they should be paying us to go to the ballpark instead of the other way around... this is utterly demoralizing and one of the lowest points I've been at as an O's fan.

[Del34]

I think we are all frustrated, but did you really need to start another thread about this? There's probably already like 8 on the first page.

[Boy Howdy]

Another MacPhail thread?

[Goop]

Has everyone completely given up on him? Good lord, the off-season isn't even over yet. And did he publicly come out and say he would rebuild this team in 1 off-season? If so, please tell me, but if not, have some patience.

Yes I know it's been 10 long years, but things aren't just going to happen in a few months. Something of this magnitude is going to take time.

[blakesta]

Wow, what a disappointment... and I actually believed that the Orioles were going to seriously try to rebuild this offseason. So instead of a legitimate rebuilding, it's just another year of wishy washy retooling with a group of disillusioned veterans who don't know a thing about winning baseball and a bunch of young players who aren't talented enough to make a difference in either the level of play or that line of thinking because their farm system is simply not that good at this point. I would've been okay with another bad year had it been done on the basis of trading away guys who obviously don't want to be in Baltimore (Bedard, Mora) or aging veterans who won't be contributing if and when the Orioles finally have a chance to compete (Payton, Millar, and a plethora of others). But how has MacPhail made this team any better in the long run? He hasn't. And he's only made them worse by trading their best player and biggest bat in the lineup. The Orioles will be lucky to have 2 guys break 20 homers next year. Good lord, they should be paying us to go to the ballpark instead of the other way around... this is utterly demoralizing and one of the lowest points I've been at as an O's fan.

You're kidding right?

He pulled off two absolute steals in the Tejada and Trachsel trades. Not to mention the fact that HE alone signed next years starting Catcher minutes before the deadline was up.

If you somehow aren't happy with that then I advise you to give a little more time to the man. Of course we could always go back to Flanny and Duq or Beattie and Flanny. They seemed to do a lot.

[bigbird]

You're kidding right?

He pulled off two absolute steals in the Tejada and Trachsel trades. Not to mention the fact that HE alone signed next years starting Catcher minutes before the deadline was up.

If you somehow aren't happy with that then I advise you to give a little more time to the man. Of course we could always go back to Flanny and Duq or Beattie and Flanny. They seemed to do a lot.


To be honest I love the return form the Tejada trade. Trachsel? We got three players who most likely we never be regulars with the O's. Good return but nothing to build upon. I can honestly say after the moves made last year at this time I was more excited heading into the season than now. Damn Flanny/Duq for all those pitching injuries and Mora, Hernandez and Gibbons not producing like they should!

[BaltimoreTerp]

Wow, what a disappointment... and I actually believed that the Orioles were going to seriously try to rebuild this offseason. So instead of a legitimate rebuilding, it's just another year of wishy washy retooling with a group of disillusioned veterans who don't know a thing about winning baseball and a bunch of young players who aren't talented enough to make a difference in either the level of play or that line of thinking because their farm system is simply not that good at this point. I would've been okay with another bad year had it been done on the basis of trading away guys who obviously don't want to be in Baltimore (Bedard, Mora) or aging veterans who won't be contributing if and when the Orioles finally have a chance to compete (Payton, Millar, and a plethora of others). But how has MacPhail made this team any better in the long run? He hasn't. And he's only made them worse by trading their best player and biggest bat in the lineup. The Orioles will be lucky to have 2 guys break 20 homers next year. Good lord, they should be paying us to go to the ballpark instead of the other way around... this is utterly demoralizing and one of the lowest points I've been at as an O's fan.

I hope that when the trades are made, you will come back in here and let everyone know how incorrect you were to overreact this way.

As it stands, I hope you never go back to the ballpark until you are paid to do so, because I don't want to be associated with fans this uninformed.

[NewMarketSean]

I hope that when the trades are made, you will come back in here and let everyone know how incorrect you were to overreact this way.

As it stands, I hope you never go back to the ballpark until you are paid to do so, because I don't want to be associated with fans this uninformed.

I hope you're right and I used to share your enthusiasm and belief that MacPhail was going to get these trades done, but I am growing more skeptical by the minute.

[BaltimoreTerp]

I hope you're right and I used to share your enthusiasm and belief that MacPhail was going to get these trades done, but I am growing more skeptical by the minute.

That is fine, to a point.

Just don't forget that, even if it doesn't seem like it, there is still a lot of time between now and any deadline, even perceived ones like spring training, to get things done.

Calling a winner before the race is over is a bad idea in politics, horse racing, and both on and off the field in baseball :p

[Boca Bird]

I'm not ready to give up yet, but I'll admit that I'm sort of mildly enraged at that fact that Bowden was able to procure both Dukes and Millegde for his OF without really giving up all that much.

Certainly, deals I think we could've and should've made. Deals that if they were made would've allowed us to focus on more of Seattles young pitching and/or high end prospects at lower levels of their system.

IN other words, a rebuilding plan that would help now and in the near future as well