Bedard-Jones deal going down

[JTrea81]

http://blog.seattletimes.nwsource.com/mariners/2008/01/bedardjones_deal_going_down.html


"I received a call from Seattle saying that is no more playing for me and I can't do anything about that,'' Jones said. "I leave tomorrow morning...It sucks. I want to play. This is Game 4 of the finals and I really want to be there for my team, but it's something that all the guys understand. I really want to play, but I can't."

On the actual deal itself: "(Bill Bavasi) called me yesterday and told me the news. I've got to go to Baltimore tomorrow morning and handle things there. I'm the centerpiece of the deal on the Mariners side. It's an honor to get traded for such a highly talented pitcher as Bedard is. He's one of the best. Last year he finished up as an arguably one of the top candidates for the Cy Young. He's that good, so for me it's an honor. You know, I like Seattle, but if I am in Baltimore, as I think now I am, I'm going to embrace it and have the best time of my life in Major League Baseball.''

[Hank Scorpio]

Very interesting to see who else is coming to town.

This could be a very big deal for us.

[kreitmaster]

Per Rotoworld.

Report:Mariners to acquire Bedard for Jones

Adam Jones is flying to Baltimore for a physical on Monday, suggesting the Orioles and Mariners have agreed to an Erik Bedard trade.
Jones said he's been told the deal is done, though he doesn't know who is going with him to Baltimore. Asked by the Seattle Times tonight, George Sherrill said he had heard nothing to suggest he's being included. Jan. 27 - 7:27 pm et

http://rotoworld.com/content/HeadLines.aspx?sport=MLB&hl=228388

[bgfield]

This is great news. It doesn't get any more credible than this. I can't wait until we find out who we get tomorrow.

[allstar1579]

Thanks JT, nice scoop.

Let the other player speculation begin!!

[WebLink21]

Please let this be real! I haven't let myself get my hopes up lately until now. Hope I dont get let down again.

[itsernst]

FINALLY!!!! I want to know who else is involved, and also does this mean that Brob is on the way out this week as well??

[Greg Pappas]

http://blog.seattletimes.nwsource.com/mariners/2008/01/bedardjones_deal_going_down.html

[/B]

Props JTrea :)

Exciting, exciting.

[square634]

OK, so I have 4.5 hours of classes tomorrow. Should I skip them so that I can continuously refresh OH?

[B-more]

If Sherrill hasnt been told of a trade than I hope that means we get Triunfel or Clement along with Tillman.

[PaulFolk]

BTW, judging by his quote about Bedard, it sounds like Adam Jones really knows a thing or two about what's going on around the major leagues. As opposed to a certain recent acquisition who wasn't aware the O's are in the same division as the Yankees and Red Sox... ;)

[Peace21]

Checking with my guy now for more info

[Oriolesfan2008]

All right! Now let's trade Roberts and the future is looking bright again!

[bigbird]

I was told...done deal 4 4 1 in a text this evening......hold on for the ride:p

[CamdenChick]

Oh boy....here we go lol :)

[allstar1579]

FINALLY!!!! I want to know who else is involved, and also does this mean that Brob is on the way out this week as well??

Most likely soon. I get the feeling there is a deal in place for him depending on who we get back from Seattle. i.e. We got Jones, so don't need Pie, but Murton would be a great trade chip (Towers is on speed dial). SD has the 2B prospect we could use to replace BRob, so if that happens we don't need EPat back. Lots of dominoes to start falling.

I just hope guys like Roberts and Millar get dealt to great teams and have a shot at competing this year. (and we absolutely plunder any team we deal them to)

[Hank Scorpio]

I was told...done deal 4 4 1 in a text this evening......hold on for the ride:p

Four for One?

Good, no young pitcher back to Seattle....

On the bad side, Payton's still around.

[SrMeowMeow]

:) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :)

[MCL1021]

Wow...4 for 1?!?

If so, way to go AM!

I'm assumming you also got the names of the players in that text as well, right BB? :D

[itsernst]

peace see if you can get the scoop on who is involved and mabye the brob trade as well!

Checking with my guy now for more info

[MChance]

I'd love to know the names of the other guys coming to Baltimore ... !

[Birds08]

I was told...done deal 4 4 1 in a text this evening......hold on for the ride:p

Who originally coined the "hang on for the ride" line on here? Was it our good friend Wild Bill?:D

[wickedwitch]

At this point, I'll believe it when I see it.

[bummer]

Bad day for me. Depending on who is involved I just might become an Orioles fan. Following minor league players through their career just to be shipped for some Canadian I couldn't give two ****s about is dumb.

Sorry if Canadian is a little strong, I just don't want to say his name.

[Belkast]

At this point, I'll believe it when I see it.

That's what I was saying last week, and then I saw it!

[oriolefaith]

Adam Jones is flying to Baltimore for a physical on Monday, suggesting the Orioles and Mariners have agreed to an Erik Bedard trade.

Jones said he's been told the deal is done, though he doesn't know who is going with him to Baltimore. Asked by the Seattle Times tonight, George Sherrill said he had heard nothing to suggest he's being included. Top prospects Chris Tillman, Jeff Clement, Carlos Triunfel and Wladimir Balentien are among the players whose names have come up in rumors.

[oriolefaith]

Got it off Rotoworld.com it's a clip from Seattle Times

[itsernst]

I don't care if they did give payton up, let them have him. We need our young guys to get some time to play instead of just gap fillers. Old and overpaid is no longer necessary in baltimore, 10 years of it has proved that.

[ilovetheos]

Rep points Jtrea and man am I excited, it pays to stalk the OH!!!:002_sbiggrin:

[Hank Scorpio]

Bad day for me. Depending on who is involved I just might become an Orioles fan. Following minor league players through their career just to be shipped for some Canadian I couldn't give two ****s about is dumb.

Sorry if Canadian is a little strong, I just don't want to say his name.

I think you'll feel just fine about it when you see Bedard every 5th day.

[Boy Howdy]

Bad day for me. Depending on who is involved I just might become an Orioles fan. Following minor league players through their career just to be shipped for some Canadian I couldn't give two ****s about is dumb.

Sorry if Canadian is a little strong, I just don't want to say his name.

Wait 'til you see his curveball.

I'm gonna miss it.

[o'sman458202233]

this has already been posted in other threads

[pappybird]

YES! Finally...

I was getting tired of hearing the crickets chirping....

[The Wedge]

5 hours ago called. He wants you to read threads before you post.

[-j.]

Bad day for me. Depending on who is involved I just might become an Orioles fan. Following minor league players through their career just to be shipped for some Canadian I couldn't give two ****s about is dumb.

Sorry if Canadian is a little strong, I just don't want to say his name.

Harsh man. I am a big Jones guy too but you can't deny that Bedard is a stud and will be a huge help in battling the Angels.

This is going to fill one hole and create another in RF. Theres more work to be done.

[oriolefaith]

I know it was posted when i was posting this my bad Post Police...don't feel like typing much because,im gonna to get wasted and party over this.

[bgfield]

Bad day for me. Depending on who is involved I just might become an Orioles fan. Following minor league players through their career just to be shipped for some Canadian I couldn't give two ****s about is dumb.

Sorry if Canadian is a little strong, I just don't want to say his name.

I know what you mean, but feel good about the fact that you just acquired one of the best pitchers in the game. Don't think '07 was just a fluke - we saw flashes of brilliance in '05 and '06 as well.

Still, I do know where you're coming from. But us O's fans have suffered for so long, we needed this :D

[birdsfan4ever]

5 hours ago called. He wants you to read threads before you post.

Well the jerk store called and....just kidding ;)

[itsernst]

yeah...the lone bright spot from watching orioles highlights was bedard, besides kakes. I am in san diego, can't really get o's games out here.

Wait 'til you see his curveball.

I'm gonna miss it.

[bummer]

He could be great but that's just not the point for me. I just don't care about him. I don't care about Silva/Batista either. It's hard for me to get attatched to a player who didn't start their career with the M's, except Beltre. I love Beltre.

[ChaosLex]

Harsh man. I am a big Jones guy too but you can't deny that Bedard is a stud and will be a huge help in battling the Angels.

This is going to fill one hole and create another in RF. Theres more work to be done.

Hopefully, you guys will sink your teeth into Jason Bay next.

[millartime15]

YAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :002_sbiggrin: :002_sbiggrin: :002_sbiggrin:

I knew AM would pull it out!

Finally! a bright future! something to look forward to!

We finally realized we sucked and a Payton type player wouldnt put us over the top

Thanks to all the insiders for the hints they have provided!

:) :) :) :) :) :) :D

[bgfield]

I wonder who our OD starter is now?

[laxtonto]

What suprises me is that if it truly is a 4 for 1 deal, the M didnt get any replacement for AJ spot in the OF.... I guess hello B. Wilkerson for the M's.


Man, i was hoping for a salary dump aswell, but maybe all the dominoes will start to fall aswell now that Bedard got moved.

[The Wedge]

Well the jerk store called and....just kidding ;)

No, don't take it back. Jerk store calls me all the time. "Hey, Wedge, we're out of essence of Wedge, hook us up. This stuff flies off the shelves!"

[MChance]

I wonder who our OD starter is now?

Let's sign Rodrigo Lopez and give him the honor!!!

[birdsfan4ever]

I wonder who our OD starter is now?

I would think Guthrie

[Fairfax Bird]

Thanks JTrea for all the work covering it ... thanks to ALL the OHers for being so patient.:D

[Dixonterp10]

I wonder who our OD starter is now?

I would be stoked to have it be Adam, but I doubt it.

[btownoriole]

Bad day for me. Depending on who is involved I just might become an Orioles fan. Following minor league players through their career just to be shipped for some Canadian I couldn't give two ****s about is dumb.

Sorry if Canadian is a little strong, I just don't want to say his name.

That's part of the reason it's so important to have a strong minor league system. For the M's, Bedard just may be the difference between sitting at home in October and winning the pennant.

[The Wedge]

I know it was posted when i was posting this my bad Post Police...don't feel like typing much because,im gonna to get wasted and party over this.

It would totally suck if it completely fell through while you were plastered and you wake up hung over. You're all expecting that while you might feel like crap, you're gonna see some good news. Carpet pulled out. Ouch town, population you, bro. ;)

[ilovetheos]

any news on who else involved, thanks again insiders and all who gave up their time EVERY single day the last couple months!!!

[allstar1579]

I was told...done deal 4 4 1 in a text this evening......hold on for the ride:p

Thanks buddy! Appreciated as always. Let's cross our fingers for some favorites coming back.

[bummer]

Honestly the only thing that will ultimately keep me from switching to another team/losing interest in baseball is Felix. If he ever goes, bye bye M's. I'm tired of Bavasi and his dumb trades. Soriano for Horacio? COME ON. UGGh.

It just never ends.

[lint06]

Oh, I am feeling pretty dang good right now. Great scoop, brother.

[CamdenChick]

<--- Annoyed now.

[-j.]

I'm not going to call this a success from a Mariners perspective until I see what else is on Jones' plane. Tillman, Sherrill and 4th, lesser guy I can live with. If any of Clement, Morrow, Balentien or Triunfel is along for the ride... he overpaid huge.

[allstar1579]

I would think Guthrie

Seconded, but I may consider tenure as well and see what kind of a spring DCab and ALoe have.

[Baroquen131]

Happy to hear that it looks like the trigger has finally been pulled. Looking forward to watching Jones play for us. Thoughtful quotes by the guy too.

Now I wonder if a Roberts deal happens quickly or not - meaning if it was contingent on Bedard going first and holes being filled.

[CamdenChick]

Me ---> Now annoyed

[-j.]

Honestly the only thing that will ultimately keep me from switching to another team/losing interest in baseball is Felix. If he ever goes, bye bye M's. I'm tired of Bavasi and his dumb trades. Soriano for Horacio? COME ON. UGGh.

It just never ends.

Bummer.. get away from the ledge man. Bedard is a little bit better than Ramirez.

[TheOtherRipken]

hooray, cant wait til tomorrow

[Mike B]

Please let this be real! I haven't let myself get my hopes up lately until now. Hope I dont get let down again.

The quote is listed in the Seattle times and is from Adam Jones. If this one does not happen, I think it never will. Tomorrow is the day. IS IT TOO MUCH TO HOPE THAT HE IS BRINGING CLEMENT AND TRIUNFEL OR TILLMAN WITH HIM?

[JohnnyK27]

I was told...done deal 4 4 1 in a text this evening......hold on for the ride:p

Its interesting that Sherrill after all the speculation hasn't been notified.:)

Is it a sign that they may have dropped our demand for him!

[bummer]

Bummer.. get away from the ledge man. Bedard is a little bit better than Ramirez.

Yes, but the deal could be just as bad, depending on who else is involved. Wlad is my next fav, followed by Clement. I'm pretty sure I'm going to be let down again.

[allstar1579]

Bummer.. get away from the ledge man. Bedard is a little bit better than Ramirez.

Haha, that's like saying Arod is a little bit better than Luis Hernandez.

Enjoy Erik, and good luck catching the Angels!

[clarence]

I can't believe this is happening. All of the AM can't put a deal together and he is going to go to opening day with the same old crap that I've been reading on here must have brainwashed me.

A lot of oldtimers on here are going to have a lot of crow to eat.

[allstar1579]

Yes, but the deal could be just as bad, depending on who else is involved. Wlad is my next fav, followed by Clement. I'm pretty sure I'm going to be let down again.

Would you rather be let down and win, or be excited and lose?

[Ozone]

Finally!!!! Someone should give mad props on the M's board to the guy with the travel agent mom.

[Ballgame64]

I wonder who our OD starter is now?

Jason Marquis after you get him from the Cubs in the BRob deal...just kidding. :)

I can see the reports in the business pages Tuesday - Productivity down in Baltimore businesses on Monday due to employees being on Orioleshangout.com all day.

I hope AM got the players you want to see for Bedard. Maybe he got more from Seattle than orginally hoped, so he'll be able to lower his expectations for BRob. (Sorry - that is the Cub fan in me talking)

[The Wedge]

Yes, but the deal could be just as bad, depending on who else is involved. Wlad is my next fav, followed by Clement. I'm pretty sure I'm going to be let down again.

I see there was no witticism in your handle choice.

[The Wedge]

I wonder who our OD starter is now?

Guthrie probably. I guess some of the others have an outside shot.

[bummer]

Would you rather be let down and win, or be excited and lose?

I still feel the Angels are better. They're pretty much better at everything.

[Mike B]

[QUOTE=oriolefaith;1181952]Got it off Rotoworld.com it's a clip from Seattle Times[/QUOTE

The Sun will run with it around Thursday.

[Del34]

Yes, but the deal could be just as bad, depending on who else is involved. Wlad is my next fav, followed by Clement. I'm pretty sure I'm going to be let down again.

Dude..I think you're throwing a hissy fit. You just got a legit #1 starter, who in all likely-hood would've lead the majors in K's had it not been for missing the last month. The same guy who has shown he can shut down the good teams, like NYY and Bosox. Sure it sucks to give up Jones, but to get quality, you give it up.

You should at least be happy your team is trying to win. We haven't had a winning season in 10 years!

[weams]

http://www.baseballprospectus.com/pecota/BALENTIEN19840702A.php

[ilovetheos]

I still feel the Angels are better. They're pretty much better at everything.

Him striking out 8-10 a game and dominating pretty much every time he goes out with 15 wins will help your team catch up with the Angels, I"m gonna miss watching his dominance, but I'm also glad we finally pulled the trigger!!!

[allstar1579]

I still feel the Angels are better. They're pretty much better at everything.

Have some faith buddy, they are an injury away from finishing behind you guys. Unless they make a trade for some younger, healthier offense, you have a great shot. Just hope Sexson snaps out of it.

[Lt Melmo]

I am going to go crazy if I don't see who else is involved QUICK.

[boz445504]

:eek: This is great news if true.:D :D I have off for the next 2 days so I can scan all of the sports channels on the web and tv. :cool: :002_sbiggrin: BUT I believe it when I see it (or Hear it)!!!

[rturk89]

churchill said the mariners offered jones/tillman/sherrill but if sherrill is not in it maybe 2 of butler/chen/tui were substituted for sherrill which makes the 4 for 1 deal.

[Scrat1]

I'm pumped about this on both ends. Although I'm definitely an O's fan first and foremost, I like the Mariners and I'm glad to see Bedard end up there. They'll be very fun to follow. Ichiro is exciting as hell to watch.

To Seattle fans: Good luck with the Angels. I'll be rooting for you. And if things go well, please take care of the AL East monsters while you're at it.

[Lamda]

yeah - sadly some of our fans were content to wait 4-5 years for all our prospects to develop and then decide to really play baseball again :mad: I never got it to be honest. I am pleasantly happy with this trade - I will enjoy having a dominant pitcher on the team again. I think Erik can only help Felix and hopefully they become pretty good friends and can be a 1-2 punch for the next 5-7 years for the M's.

[Who's On 1st]

I say horray for AP if this goes as we read about the 4 for 1. Hate to lose any of our young players.

[bummer]

Have some faith buddy, they are an injury away from finishing behind you guys. Unless they make a trade for some younger, healthier offense, you have a great shot. Just hope Sexson snaps out of it.

Hope Sexson snaps out of it....ha. I'm glad this is Sexson's last year as a M(hopefully).

I don't think the M's will overtake the Angels though. The Angels have already improved more than the M's have this offseason.

[ChaosLex]

Dude..I think you're throwing a hissy fit. You just got a legit #1 starter, who in all likely-hood would've lead the majors in K's had it not been for missing the last month. The same guy who has shown he can shut down the good teams, like NYY and Bosox. Sure it sucks to give up Jones, but to get quality, you give it up.

You should at least be happy your team is trying to win. We haven't had a winning season in 10 years!

Also, he broke the record for team strikeouts in a shortened season. Considering we're the only team to ever have a staff of 20-game winners, I'd say that's pretty damn impressive.

[Greg Pappas]

I'm excited, yet... for some here the smiling faces could become less so, if it is a 3 for one, Jones, Tillman, 3rd (Sherrill/Chen). Let's see who we got first.

[Ozone]

If any of the insiders want to get some of this off their chest, my PM inbox is currently accepting new messages.

[TyCobb]

Hope Sexson snaps out of it....ha. I'm glad this is Sexson's last year as a M(hopefully).

I don't think the M's will overtake the Angels though. The Angels have already improved more than the M's have this offseason.

Adding Bedard makes the M's offseason better than the Angels IMO. He is going to put some crazy pitching numbers in that pitchers park you have there.

[erb8472]

I'm going on a limb and saying the final deal is Jones, Clement/Truinfel, Tillman and Chen.

[Belkast]

I'm excited, yet... for some here the smiling faces could become less so, if it is a 3 for one, Jones, Tillman, 3rd (Sherrill/Chen). Let's see who we got first.

Be very excited, my friend.

[allstar1579]

I'm excited, yet... for some here the smiling faces could become less so, if it is a 3 for one, Jones, Tillman, 3rd (Sherrill/Chen). Let's see who we got first.


BB dropped a nugget that it is a 4-1, so we have that going for us. Lets just hope we get 2 of Tillman/Triunfel/Wlad/Clement/Morrow, IMO that is what makes it a great deal for us as opposed to a good one.

[erb8472]

I hope Roch gives us a blog soon.

I'm going to go crazy.

[Lucky Jim]

Be very excited, my friend.

Oh, patently unfair! ;)

[o'sman458202233]

Be very excited, my friend.

:D :D :D :D :D

[Jik]

Be very excited, my friend.

belkast you drive me crazy! :002_sbiggrin:

[millartime15]

Be very excited, my friend.

Thanks alot Belkast! We appreciate your info!

I know I'm excited!

[Scrat1]

I'm pretty sure I almost needed meds to handle this bipolar offseason.

[WhoRU]

I still feel the Angels are better. They're pretty much better at everything.

Their ACE isn't better! ;)

Look I really cant relate because our farm system has been so poor over the years but Bedard is a beast.

He will win the Cy young this year IMO.

In Safeco he will be unreal.

You will love to watch him pitch. His stuff is unreal. Every time he pitches you have to wonder if he is going to pitch a no hitter.

Trust me when I say you will not be disappointed!

[erb8472]

You are the man Belkast.

How many people keep refreshing Roch's blog hopping for a new one?

[Hank Scorpio]

Okay, who's next?!?!?!?

Roberts to Chicago?

[bummer]

I already hate the deal. Sounds like I'll hate it even more. My honest prediction is:

Jones/Clement/Tillman/?

Probably someone good. I can already see the M's saying they have Johjima, so Clement is expendable.

[Ozone]

From Seattle Times Blog:

UPDATE (4:47 p.m.): I just spoke to Mariners spokesman Tim Hevley, who confirmed Jones has been called back to the U.S. Hevley said he could not comment further, which more or less tells more or less tells us Jones is being traded because major league clubs do not stiff winter league teams as badly as Seattle just did without a darned good reason. If Jones was hurt, the M's would say so. Anyway, Jones himself is saying what the M's won't. The winter league team's manager, none other than Luis Sojo, has also confirmed Jones if off to Baltimore for a physical.

http://blog.seattletimes.nwsource.com/mariners/index.html#021887

[big leagues 23]

Be very excited, my friend.

In your opinion, when do you think the press will announce it?

[Greg Pappas]

Be very excited, my friend.

I am, as I think AM is gonna put a permanent smile on most of our faces... I hold out hope. Thanks.

Jones, Triunfel and Tillman? Close? Something wicked-good this way comes. :D

[Mike Devo]

I already hate the deal. Sounds like I'll hate it even more. My honest prediction is:

Jones/Clement/Tillman/?

Probably someone good. I can already see the M's saying they have Johjima, so Clement is expendable.

Your name is Bummer, of course you're going to be disappointed.

[o'sman458202233]

You've gotta believe Roberts' trade is just around the corner

[ledzepp8]

Some very nice words from Mr. Jones. Sounds like a real good kid.

[Belkast]

In your opinion, when do you think the press will announce it?

It may take until Tuesday before you see the press conference.

[weams]

http://prospectinsider.wordpress.com/category/scouting-reports/page/3/

[SoxHotCorner]

So who are the other players involved in this trade that you guys are hearing? Is Truienfel in there? That's all i want to know really.

I'm just wondering if AM waited long enough for them to include him in the trade.

[The Wedge]

It may take until Tuesday before you see the press conference.

That's not exactly what he asked. ;)

[erb8472]

To soon for an avatar change? lol I'm pretty syked.

[ChaosLex]

It may take until Tuesday before you see the press conference.

The cat's already out of the bag. They might as well get it over with. :D

[OrioleMagic]

Belkast, Can you rule out the player Weams has posted more than once with NO explanation in this thread?

[big leagues 23]

It may take until Tuesday before you see the press conference.

I mean like for it to be announced, not like a press conference.

[Mike B]

Let's sign Rodrigo Lopez and give him the honor!!!

My God, let's not.

[Moose Milligan]

Still a bit skeptical, but I'm hoping this all goes down...

I predict Jones, Tillman, Clement and a lesser prospect.

[oandb21]

Honestly the only thing that will ultimately keep me from switching to another team/losing interest in baseball is Felix. If he ever goes, bye bye M's. I'm tired of Bavasi and his dumb trades. Soriano for Horacio? COME ON. UGGh.

It just never ends.

He may have made some dumb trades, but this was a good trade for the M's, and for the Orioles. Face it, you guy didn't stand a chance against the Angels, and now, you have just moved ahead of them.

[The Wedge]

The cat's already out of the bag. They might as well get it over with. :D

That's kinda what I was getting at. Kinda like the Ravens and the Harbaugh hiring, it broke the night before but they purposefully scheduled the presser for later the next day.

[Moose Milligan]

So if this really goes down, is Jones our starting CF on opening day?

[Skeptical]

I'm not sure Baltimore's economy can sustain a press conference not happening until Tuesday. Great work so far insiders.

My fingers are crossed that we see a Roberts trade next. Come on AM. Make me a happy baseball fan again.

[TyCobb]

So if this really goes down, is Jones our starting CF on opening day?

Definately.....

[erb8472]

Still a bit skeptical, but I'm hoping this all goes down...

I predict Jones, Tillman, Clement and a lesser prospect.

I think you're right. I said Jones, Tillman, Clement, and Chen.

[big leagues 23]

So if this really goes down, is Jones our starting CF on opening day?

Either him, Redman, or Payton.

[JoeOrsulak]

Be very excited, my friend.

Are you happy with the 'possible' deal?
If you can indulge a bit, on a scale 1 - 10, what are you? 10 meaning you
are breaking out the cigar and bottle of scotch :)

[oriolerockstar8]

Hopefully Morrow is in there..
I would love to see a Jones/Morrow/Triunfel/ lesser prospect
What does this mean for Roberts? gotta think a chicago trade is just around the corner

[Belkast]

I mean like for it to be announced, not like a press conference.

Who knows? It's the sun don't forget!

[Fairfax Bird]

That's kinda what I was getting at. Kinda like the Ravens and the Harbaugh hiring, it broke the night before but they purposefully scheduled the presser for later the next day.

That was so Harbaugh could go home and talk to his family I thought.

I will feel so much better when we hear this from the Orioles.

[erb8472]

Who knows? It's the sun don't forget!

Better keep an eye on the Seattle Times. :D

[allstar1579]

I already hate the deal. Sounds like I'll hate it even more. My honest prediction is:

Jones/Clement/Tillman/?

Probably someone good. I can already see the M's saying they have Johjima, so Clement is expendable.

Yeah but we have the best C prospect in the majors coming up, so he's not really a need for us either, unless we have somewhere else to deal him.

Flipping Clement and Murton if we got them both to SD for Antonelli and Kouzmanoff would be pretty cool though.

[RShack]

I don't think the M's will overtake the Angels though. The Angels have already improved more than the M's have this offseason.
Sorry you're bummed, bummer.

Here's one thing to keep in mind if Erik is on your team: On days he's pitching, it's not a fair fight. He single-handedly makes it an unfair fight. Really. He's special.

[gusshane]

For those still skeptical- the infromation in the article wont be new to anyone here, but if msnbc reports- that is pretty solid IMHO. (my first post after lurking the hwole offseason)



http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/22871543/

[Mike B]

Honestly the only thing that will ultimately keep me from switching to another team/losing interest in baseball is Felix. If he ever goes, bye bye M's. I'm tired of Bavasi and his dumb trades. Soriano for Horacio? COME ON. UGGh.

It just never ends.

I understand you hate to watch prospects move on, but Bedard is the real deal. He is a little goofy but his curve ball will win the MAriner fans over. We need to get excited about a young group of guys. Let's hope it works out for all of us.

[big leagues 23]

Anybody know if Roch has written anything about the trade yet?

[Moose Milligan]

Either him, Redman, or Payton.

So what's Payton's shoe size?

What? No, I don't have any cement...that's just a...a dump truck...

[El Gordo]

So if this really goes down, is Jones our starting CF on opening day?No I think the plan is to send him down to Norfolk for some seasoning and go with Payton/Redman.......NOT!
:002_sbiggrin:

[Belkast]

Are you happy with the 'possible' deal?
If you can indulge a bit, on a scale 1 - 10, what are you? 10 meaning you
are breaking out the cigar and bottle of scotch :)

I am smoking a cigar right now, but I am not drinking the scotch. I am however drinking some orange Kool Aid. Did that answer your question?:D

[The Wedge]

That was so Harbaugh could go home and talk to his family I thought.

I will feel so much better when we hear this from the Orioles.

It also was to avoid pissing off the print press. Not that the internet age already has them scooped nine times out of ten.

[allstar1579]

Judging by the hints, either one of these SEA guys goes with Roberts to the Cubs, or one of them means the players in the Cubs trade is different. But I can say you won't see Roberts for Cedeno, Marshall, and Gallagher.

[Bigbie03]

Looks like it's the truth ya'll!!!!!!

...sorry if this link's been posted


http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/mariners/2004148540_webmarijonesbedard27.html

[amateurfan]

I am smoking a cigar right now, but I am not drinking the scotch. I am however drinking some orange Kool Aid. Did that answer your question?:D

Depends on if you drink or not :D Sorry, just really excited. Thanks again.

[JoeOrsulak]

I am smoking a cigar right now, but I am not drinking the scotch. I am however drinking some orange Kool Aid. Did that answer your question?:D

Yes that did thanks for you answer and your opinions :).

[Mike B]

Finally!!!! Someone should give mad props on the M's board to the guy with the travel agent mom.

You can always trust a travel agents mom. Someone call her and see who else she booked on the darn plane.

[allstar1579]

I am smoking a cigar right now, but I am not drinking the scotch. I am however drinking some orange Kool Aid. Did that answer your question?:D

Haha, who needs Dan Brown, we have The Belkast Code.

Love it my friend.

Any thoughts on who we are targeting from the Cubs now that we don't need Pie?

[El Gordo]

I am smoking a cigar right now, but I am not drinking the scotch. I am however drinking some orange Kool Aid. Did that answer your question?:D
Well let me try to put it another way. If Jones, Tillman. Sherrill and Chen were a Dominican cigar, are you smoking a Cuban?:002_sbiggrin:

[MChance]

Haha, who needs Dan Brown, we have The Belkast Code.

Love it my friend.

Any thoughts on who we are targeting from the Cubs now that we don't need Pie?

Hill to take Bedards spot in the rotation! That'd be nice ...

[JTrea81]

Anybody know if Roch has written anything about the trade yet?

Nothing from the Sun yet. The OH scoops them again, and this time for real... ;) :p

[Belkast]

Nothing from the Sun yet. The OH scoops them again, and this time for real... ;) :p

Thay may be trying to prove the info is false!:p

[BMoreOrioles]

http://msn.foxsports.com/mlb/story/7726024/M's-call-Jones-home,-deal-for-Bedard-may-be-close

[Kefner]

Nothing from the Sun yet. The OH scoops them again, and this time for real... ;) :p

Found this in one of the blogs over there.

http://weblogs.baltimoresun.com/sports/fantasyguy/blog/2008/01/report_bedard_deal_going_down.html

[weams]

http://taiwanbaseball.blogspot.com/2006/12/yung-chi-chen.html

[ChaosLex]

One of the regulars over at MLBTradeRumors is hearing that it's Jones, Clement, Tillman and a 4th.

If true, what a haul!!! :D :eek: :)

[Moose Milligan]

I'm hoping we get Clement and move him to first base and trade Huff, keeping Millar for DH.

Then hopefully we're set with Wieters at catcher....Scott, Jones, Markakis from L-R...ooohhhh...

[JTrea81]

Just thought I'd mention, Churchill has a scouting report on Jones available for $4 on PI. I'm going to download it to get the lowdown on our soon to be CFer.

[allstar1579]

Hill to take Bedards spot in the rotation! That'd be nice ...

Hill doesn't come back without Bedard going to the Cubs.

Roberts and Sherrill for Murton, Marmol, and Gallagher? I don't know...

[erb8472]

Looks like my limb of Jones, Clement, Tillman, and Chen has some legs. Wish Belkast would say if the size of my limb could hold those four :)

[Ozone]

From FoxSports.com:

The O's trade of Bedard would signal a major rebuilding process in which a trade of second baseman Brian Roberts would likely follow. The Cubs remain heavily interseted in Roberts, and the O's return would be another package of prospects, possibly including pitcher Sean Gallagher, Felix Pie and another prospect.

If this comes tru, HOLY CRAP!!!!

http://msn.foxsports.com/mlb/story/7726024/M's-call-Jones-home,-deal-for-Bedard-may-be-close

[Greg Pappas]

One of the regulars over at MLBTradeRumors is hearing that it's Jones, Clement, Tillman and a 4th.

If true, what a haul!!! :D :eek: :)

I would almost cry tears of pure joy... manly tears of course. :D

[Moose Milligan]

One of the regulars over at MLBTradeRumors is hearing that it's Jones, Clement, Tillman and a 4th.

If true, what a haul!!! :D :eek: :)

Giggity Giggity, my friend :)

[Hank Scorpio]

One of the regulars over at MLBTradeRumors is hearing that it's Jones, Clement, Tillman and a 4th.

If true, what a haul!!! :D :eek: :)

Now THAT would be a deal I'd be happy about.

Even if it was three for one.

[ChaosLex]

From FoxSports.com:

The O's trade of Bedard would signal a major rebuilding process in which a trade of second baseman Brian Roberts would likely follow. The Cubs remain heavily interseted in Roberts, and the O's return would be another package of prospects, possibly including pitcher Sean Gallagher, Felix Pie and another prospect.

If this comes tru, HOLY CRAP!!!!

http://msn.foxsports.com/mlb/story/7726024/M's-call-Jones-home,-deal-for-Bedard-may-be-close

Haha. No way in hell we get all of them for Roberts.

[backwardsk]

http://www.baseballprospectus.com/article.php?articleid=5257

Here's an old article about Jones when he moved from SS to the OF. It talks about his relationship to none other than MarK McLemore.

[The Wedge]

I'm hoping we get Clement and move him to first base and trade Huff, keeping Millar for DH.

Then hopefully we're set with Wieters at catcher....Scott, Jones, Markakis from L-R...ooohhhh...

Normally at times like this, one is supposed to think about baseball...what the hell are you gonna think about?

[Belkast]

From FoxSports.com:

The O's trade of Bedard would signal a major rebuilding process in which a trade of second baseman Brian Roberts would likely follow. The Cubs remain heavily interseted in Roberts, and the O's return would be another package of prospects, possibly including pitcher Sean Gallagher, Felix Pie and another prospect.

If this comes tru, HOLY CRAP!!!!

http://msn.foxsports.com/mlb/story/7726024/M's-call-Jones-home,-deal-for-Bedard-may-be-close

Just believe me when I say things are going to be busy. Things had to happen first and now the fun will begin. Welcome back O's fans!!!!

[JJLinn29]

Does anyone have Jones' Venezuelan League stats? I'd like to see those.

Also, why get Pie when your OF is already set?

[Moose Milligan]

From FoxSports.com:

The O's trade of Bedard would signal a major rebuilding process in which a trade of second baseman Brian Roberts would likely follow. The Cubs remain heavily interseted in Roberts, and the O's return would be another package of prospects, possibly including pitcher Sean Gallagher, Felix Pie and another prospect.

If this comes tru, HOLY CRAP!!!!

http://msn.foxsports.com/mlb/story/7726024/M's-call-Jones-home,-deal-for-Bedard-may-be-close


There's just no way...OMFGZZZZZ

[Peace21]

There's just no way...OMFGZZZZZ

Yes their is

[TyCobb]

There's just no way...OMFGZZZZZ

Where would Pie play? Jones is our CFer for the next 6 years.

[Moose Milligan]

Does anyone have Jones' Venezuelan League stats? I'd like to see those.

Also, why get Pie when your OF is already set?

Could be flipping Scott?

[TyCobb]

Yes their is

Got any information about the Bedard deal to share?

[Greg Pappas]

Just believe me when I say things are going to be busy. Things had to happen first and now the fun will begin. Welcome back O's fans!!!!

Happy Happy Joy Joy!!!! :) :eek: :D ;)

[erb8472]

LF with Scott DHing?

[ChaosLex]

Yes their is

Holy crap! Jones to SS!? Pie to CF!?

[Belkast]

Yes their is

Are you happy? Finally the team is starting to get good!

[Dixonterp10]

Where would Pie play? Jones is our CFer for the next 6 years.

Would you move Pie to left and Scott to DH or see if he can play 1b?

[allstar1579]

Just believe me when I say things are going to be busy. Things had to happen first and now the fun will begin. Welcome back O's fans!!!!

Thanks B, it was getting pretty depressing around here.

Anyone else care to bask in a potential OF of Pie, Jones and Cakes?

[Peace21]

Got any information about the Bedard deal to share?

Gathering info. Once I have everything I will share.

[Hank Scorpio]

Yes their is

Whoa............ slow down everyone.

Really?

[vatech1994]

Where would Pie play? Jones is our CFer for the next 6 years.

Remember that Jones used to be a SS.

[Rob H]

Where would Pie play? Jones is our CFer for the next 6 years.

Pie is the better defensive CF. I'd imagine he'd push Jones to left if you managed to get him.

[rolliefingers]

One of the regulars over at MLBTradeRumors is hearing that it's Jones, Clement, Tillman and a 4th.

If true, what a haul!!! :D :eek: :)

I would be very happy with that.

[DeuceBaseman]

You guys are NOT getting Pie LOL! Or Marmol LOL! You wouldn't get both of those in a deal for Bedard AND Roberts. A package around Gallagher, Murton, Cedeno, and Marshall is what you'll get. Maybe other prospects like Patterson or Colvin included but I highly doubt it.

[TyCobb]

Remember that Jones used to be a SS.

Key word is "used". 3 years since the last time he played SS I think.

[erb8472]

Remember that Jones used to be a SS.

SG just went crazy with the I told you so's. :D

[allstar1579]

Scott to SD for Headley?

C-Hernandez
1B-Clement
2B-
SS-
3B-Headley
LF-Pie
CF-Jones
RF-Markakis

Guthrie
Loewen
Cabrera
Patton
Gallagher

[Mizerooskie]

You guys are NOT getting Pie LOL! Or Marmol LOL! You wouldn't get both of those in a deal for Bedard AND Roberts. A package around Gallagher, Murton, Cedeno, and Marshall is what you'll get. Maybe other prospects like Patterson or Colvin included but I highly doubt it.
Now that is a crock. You could definitely get Marmol and Pie for Roberts and Bedard. Don't be ridiculous

[Moose Milligan]

You guys are NOT getting Pie LOL! Or Marmol LOL! You wouldn't get both of those in a deal for Bedard AND Roberts. A package around Gallagher, Murton, Cedeno, and Marshall is what you'll get. Maybe other prospects like Patterson or Colvin included but I highly doubt it.


100 years later, haven't you learned? ;)

[oandb21]

HAPPY HAPPY DAY!!!!!!!
i have been a big Adam Jones fan for some time now, my kids and i send stuff thru the mail to ball players, in hopes they sign it and send it back, well Jones being a favorite of mine, i sent him 3 of the below photos i made on photoshop, and 3 baseball cards,(3 different mailings) and he signed every time.



<a href="http://s239.photobucket.com/albums/ff247/allaboutcardboard/in%20person%20or%20ttm%20autos/?action=view&current=autos-1.jpg" target="_blank"><img src="http://i239.photobucket.com/albums/ff247/allaboutcardboard/in%20person%20or%20ttm%20autos/autos-1.jpg" border="0" alt="Photobucket"></a>

[Elbren]

Does anyone have Jones' Venezuelan League stats? I'd like to see those.

Also, why get Pie when your OF is already set?


Could be flipping Scott?

If we did acquire Pie, I'd imagine the OF would be Pie, Jones and Markakis with Scott DHing. I can't see him uprooting 2 CFer's and someone with Markakis' arm and I can't see him sitting just to get Millar, Huff or Gibbons AB's.

[Fairfax Bird]

Pie is the better defensive CF. I'd imagine he'd push Jones to left if you managed to get him.

I haven't heard this ... Jones is supposed to be Torri Hunter.

[allstar1579]

You guys are NOT getting Pie LOL! Or Marmol LOL! You wouldn't get both of those in a deal for Bedard AND Roberts. A package around Gallagher, Murton, Cedeno, and Marshall is what you'll get. Maybe other prospects like Patterson or Colvin included but I highly doubt it.

Everyone always overvalues their own prospects. If that is what we were going to get, it would have been done last month. To be hung up this long means there was something in the other trade holding it up.

[RZNJ]

The excitement is running wild. A little premature perhaps? I see we already have Jones at SS and Pie in CF. Wow! Slow down fellas. :eek:

[rolliefingers]

Yes their is

I just hope we're not doing something dumb like sending any young players over there to get Pie back.

I'd definitely do a Roberts + Scott for Gallagher + Pie, though. That'd be great.

[baltfan]

Kudos for the hard work by Geoff Baker of The Seattle Times. I have read a bunch of writers stuff during this offseason. His has consistently been the most well thoughtout, best researched, and most timely. Seattle fans you are lucky to have him.

[MemphisOsFan]

One of the regulars over at MLBTradeRumors is hearing that it's Jones, Clement, Tillman and a 4th.

If true, what a haul!!! :D :eek: :)

I would definitely be happy if those guys were coming back. :D :D :D

[JTrea81]

Hmm, Pie or Jones in CF and LF would move Scott to DH/4th OFer one would assume...

[RZNJ]

You guys are NOT getting Pie LOL! Or Marmol LOL! You wouldn't get both of those in a deal for Bedard AND Roberts. A package around Gallagher, Murton, Cedeno, and Marshall is what you'll get. Maybe other prospects like Patterson or Colvin included but I highly doubt it.

You might be right. However, we're hoping the Mariner fans are going to find out very soon that they are giving up more than they would have thought possible. Never say never. The same could happen to you.

[Rob H]

I haven't heard this ... Jones is supposed to be Torri Hunter.

There are quotes from scouts saying that Pie is "the best I've ever seen." And I recall one saying "he's a gold glover out there right now" when he was just 19.

[baltfan]

Honestly I am very happy with the idea of Scott in LF. Obviously I want the best players available, but if the Cubs deal with Pie or without Pie are roughly the same, I am fine going without Pie.

[balk]

Roch finally checks in. He just rehashes what we already know though.
http://weblogs.baltimoresun.com/sports/roch/blog/2008/01/still_waiting.html

[amateurfan]

Roch (http://weblogs.baltimoresun.com/sports/roch/blog/2008/01/still_waiting.html) just posted that he's waiting for confirmation but can't get any. I hope this means he's getting busy signals.

[skiba7]

Hopefully the insiders can eloborate on their hints about Pie. I'm a Cubs fan, and while personally not huge on Pie, think it would be ridiculous to include him in a Roberts trade.

[bej6789]

Roch's posted something new

http://weblogs.baltimoresun.com/sports/roch/blog/

[Skeptical]

Relax guys. Don't go crazy with these ideas. One step at a time. And no, Jones will never be our SS. That is not the reason why he would be acquired. That would be a waste of his talents in the OF.

[Sports Guy]

There are quotes from scouts saying that Pie is "the best I've ever seen." And I recall one saying "he's a gold glover out there right now" when he was just 19.
There are also scouts that have said he is overrated defensively and takes inconsistent routes on balls.

[wildcard]

I wonder if Bavasi caved an gave up Morrow?

[RZNJ]

There are quotes from scouts saying that Pie is "the best I've ever seen." And I recall one saying "he's a gold glover out there right now" when he was just 19.


I'd love to see those quotes. I've read that Pie is a good CF but not exactly a gold glover just yet.

[Why Not?]

Honestly I am very happy with the idea of Scott in LF. Obviously I want the best players available, but if the Cubs deal with Pie or without Pie are roughly the same, I am fine going without Pie.

If you look hard enough, you could probably find a similar quote about just about every player in the majors.....and a bunch of guys who never made it there.

[ChaosLex]

I definitely like what I'm hearing from Roch. The O's have shot this stuff down right off the bat in the past weeks, not said "no comment."

[Rob H]

There are also scouts that have said he is overrated defensively and takes inconsistent routes on balls.

If he's simply "overrated defensively" that would make him Torii Hunter.

Side note, do you like a single player on the Cubs? I haven't seen you be positive about a single one.

[Moose Milligan]

Wonder how many times a day Roch checks our board...? :D

[DeuceBaseman]

I'm not over valueing our prospects. The fact is we are not giving you are most prized prospect and our best pitchign prospect for Brian Roberts. It just isnt happening lol. I can see Hill and Pie with a lot more for Bedard and Roberts. But Marmol and Pie and more for bedard and roberts wouldnt happen. Marmol's value is ridiculously high right now, almost as much as bedard's. He is one of the best RPs in baseball. Bedard is worth A LOT more than Roberts. You guys will get something like Gallagher, Marshall, Cedeno, and Murton for Roberts and Payton. The reason that this didn't happen yet is because you wanted to see what you'd get from the Mariners for Bedard. Now that you have Jones you wont demand Pie. And say you only get 1 SP back from them, then you guys would want 2 from us, etc....

[weams]

Wonder how many times a day Roch checks our board...? :D

refresh...refresh...refresh ;)

[Moose Milligan]

If he's simply "overrated defensively" that would make him Torii Hunter.

Side note, do you like a single player on the Cubs? I haven't seen you be positive about a single one.

SG has been positive about Pie.

It's cool though, he balances out davearm, our resident Chubbies fan who isn't positive about any of our players, either.

[oandb21]

I personally really like Kyler Burke, but he would have to be the 3rd or 4th piece in a deal for roberts, and not sure it would go to 4 players without us tossing in a player, but i think he is an awesome, young, under rated player.

[Ozone]

I wonder if Bavasi caved an gave up Morrow?

Wasn't Morrow interviewed at the M's Fanfest this afternoon?

[RZNJ]

If he's simply "overrated defensively" that would make him Torii Hunter.

Side note, do you like a single player on the Cubs? I haven't seen you be positive about a single one.

To be fair, you stated that someone said he "was the best ever in CF". You can't throw quotes like that around without a decent source. SportsGuy is basically quoting out of the Baseball America 2007 handbook. I've read that both guys are excellent CF's. You assumed that Pie is the better CF. Why?

[umfan83]

I'm not over valueing our prospects. The fact is we are not giving you are most prized prospect and our best pitchign prospect for Brian Roberts. It just isnt happening lol. I can see Hill and Pie with a lot more for Bedard and Roberts. But Marmol and Pie and more for bedard and roberts wouldnt happen. Marmol's value is ridiculously high right now, almost as much as bedard's. He is one of the best RPs in baseball. Bedard is worth A LOT more than Roberts. You guys will get something like Gallagher, Marshall, Cedeno, and Murton for Roberts and Payton. The reason that this didn't happen yet is because you wanted to see what you'd get from the Mariners for Bedard. Now that you have Jones you wont demand Pie. And say you only get 1 SP back from them, then you guys would want 2 from us, etc....

There is NO way that Marmol is as valuable as Bedard. He's not even as valuable as Roberts. Doesn't mean hes not a great player though.

[mapierce]

SG has been positive about Pie.

It's cool though, he balances out davearm, our resident Chubbies fan who isn't positive about any of our players, either.

Has Davearm ever said anything positive about any O's players or anything to do with the O's?

[JCK]

So anyways, back on topic....

[allstar1579]

I'm not over valueing our prospects. The fact is we are not giving you are most prized prospect and our best pitchign prospect for Brian Roberts. It just isnt happening lol. I can see Hill and Pie with a lot more for Bedard and Roberts. But Marmol and Pie and more for bedard and roberts wouldnt happen. Marmol's value is ridiculously high right now, almost as much as bedard's. He is one of the best RPs in baseball. Bedard is worth A LOT more than Roberts. You guys will get something like Gallagher, Marshall, Cedeno, and Murton for Roberts and Payton. The reason that this didn't happen yet is because you wanted to see what you'd get from the Mariners for Bedard. Now that you have Jones you wont demand Pie. And say you only get 1 SP back from them, then you guys would want 2 from us, etc....

That is exactly what you are doing my friend. Marmol is completely unproven and you guys won't even name him your closer now, so how is he one of the best in the league? No one said Pie and Marmol anyway, I even think thats too much for Roberts, but I do think Pie and Gallagher is possible. Gallagher is more expendable to you than Marmol. Even though, Wood will end up as your closer and Marmol will be the set-up man, which diminishes his value.

[JohnnyBGoode]

I'd like to see Roberts for Gallagher, Patterson, and Murton.

2B Eric Patterson
SS Jack Wilson
RF Nick Markakis
DH Kevin Millar
1B Jeff Clement
CF Adam Jones
C Ramon Hernandez
LF Luke Scott
3B Scott Moore

??????

[centralpaosfan]

I'm not over valueing our prospects. The fact is we are not giving you are most prized prospect and our best pitchign prospect for Brian Roberts. It just isnt happening lol. I can see Hill and Pie with a lot more for Bedard and Roberts. But Marmol and Pie and more for bedard and roberts wouldnt happen. Marmol's value is ridiculously high right now, almost as much as bedard's. He is one of the best RPs in baseball. Bedard is worth A LOT more than Roberts. You guys will get something like Gallagher, Marshall, Cedeno, and Murton for Roberts and Payton. The reason that this didn't happen yet is because you wanted to see what you'd get from the Mariners for Bedard. Now that you have Jones you wont demand Pie. And say you only get 1 SP back from them, then you guys would want 2 from us, etc....


You forgot the "lol" after this statement.

[vatech1994]

Marmol's value is ridiculously high right now, almost as much as bedard's.

Now, that is funny stuff right there. Kudos

[Pushmonkey]

Wonder how many times a day Roch checks our board...? :D

Just one problem: Nobody on the Orioles' side is confirming that a deal is done.

http://weblogs.baltimoresun.com/sports/roch/blog/2008/01/still_waiting.html

[TonySoprano]

"(Bill Bavasi) called me yesterday and told me the news. I've got to go to Baltimore tomorrow morning and handle things there.

This has been a "done deal" since yesterday, but it only gets leaked today.

[RichmondVA Orio]

On a side note, looks like there might finally be a forthcoming decision on the proposed Sirius/XM merger.

Those people have had to wait a lot longer than we have for the Bedard/Robert saga to unfold.

http://www.drudgereport.com/

[Sports Guy]

If he's simply "overrated defensively" that would make him Torii Hunter.

Side note, do you like a single player on the Cubs? I haven't seen you be positive about a single one.

Sure I do but I get tired of the Felix Pie is god stuff by Cubs fans.

You all totally ignore all of his issues.

I would love to have Pie on the Orioles but Cubs fans act as if he is Willie Mays.

[JTrea81]

Just one problem: Nobody on the Orioles' side is confirming that a deal is done.

http://weblogs.baltimoresun.com/sports/roch/blog/2008/01/still_waiting.html

I doubt we will hear anything official until physicals are done...

[o'sman458202233]

insiders, other than Roberts, are you hearing any other trades that are close to happening. Thanks as always for your info!

[RZNJ]

Just one problem: Nobody on the Orioles' side is confirming that a deal is done.

http://weblogs.baltimoresun.com/sports/roch/blog/2008/01/still_waiting.html

Usually they are denying and say the rumors have no basis. A no comment seems almost like a confirmation.

[ChaosLex]

Just one problem: Nobody on the Orioles' side is confirming that a deal is done.

http://weblogs.baltimoresun.com/sports/roch/blog/2008/01/still_waiting.html

Neither is anyone on the Mariner's side (with the exception of Jones). However, I think "no comment" says plenty.

[allstar1579]

I'd like to see Roberts for Gallagher, Patterson, and Murton.

2B Eric Patterson
SS Jack Wilson
RF Nick Markakis
DH Kevin Millar
1B Jeff Clement
CF Adam Jones
C Ramon Hernandez
LF Luke Scott
3B Scott Moore

??????

I think that is selling short. Patterson needs another good season before he's a real viable prospect. That is why I said Fontenot. He's underrated, and just like Roberts defensively, but with a little more pop and less speed.

[erb8472]

I can't wait for Peace's update, hopefully later tonight.

[rochester]

AM stinks:D :D

[amateurfan]

This is the first time that I can remember in which a trade of this magnitude was revealed by the comments of a minor league player. Someone did not prep him properly. It seems to me that Bavasi would have told him to keep it quiet. It doesn't surprise me that AM is quiet.

[skiba7]

Just one problem: Nobody on the Orioles' side is confirming that a deal is done.

http://weblogs.baltimoresun.com/sports/roch/blog/2008/01/still_waiting.html

This time they just declined to comment though, which is different than what they've been saying all offseason. Anytime there was a Roberts or Bedard rumor over the past couple months, it was almost immediately denied by MacPhail and co. Like, immediately. Now all of a sudden, it's "no comment". That's a pretty telling sign IMO.

[allstar1579]

Sure I do but I get tired of the Felix Pie is god stuff by Cubs fans.

You all totally ignore all of his issues.

I would love to have Pie on the Orioles but Cubs fans act as if he is Willie Mays.

Amen brother!

He was the next Willie Mays 2 seasons ago, but until he starts showing it in the majors, he's just another AAAA player.

[BaltimoreTerp]

This is the first time that I can remember in which a trade of this magnitude was revealed by the comments of a minor league player. Someone did not prep him properly. It seems to me that Bavasi would have told him to keep it quiet. It doesn't surprise me that AM is quiet.

Crash didn't teach him his cliches!

[DeuceBaseman]

You have your take on our prospects and so do I. I want a fair trade for both of us as the next guy. I would love to trade Pie, Hill, Gallagher, Cedeno, Murton, Patterson, and Dempster for Bedard and Roberts but that just didn't happen. But if you guys offered us Roberts for Marmol I would hope to God that Hendry would reject that deal. Marmol is our most valuable player right now in my opinion. He could be our #2 starter next year if Piniella wanted to be creative. Pie is SUPPOSED to be a stud, but I have seen absolutely nothing from him at the major league level besides his awesome defense. But still, Hendry has a man crush on him and he is not goin anywhere for 2 years of Roberts. We have been drooling over Pie for like 4 years now, there's no way we trade him for a 2B for two years when we already have a good 2B. Take any combination of Gallagher, Marshall, Cedeno, Murton, Patterson, Veal, Dempster, Marquis. Take them ALL! But I see us giving you Gallagher, Murton, Cedeno, and maybe Marshall for Roberts and maybe Payton.

[JoeyR5]

Amen brother!

He was the next Willie Mays 2 seasons ago, but until he starts showing it in the majors, he's just another AAAA player.

You do know he hasn't gotten any consistent playing time yet, right?

You do know he picked up baseball at age 16, and is 22 right now.

You do know that at every level, he has dominated, offensivley and defensively, winning a championship at each level.

I'd hate to see him traded...

[umfan83]

FWIW, this is a quote about Felix Pie from about 3 years ago:


Vince Coleman, who was the Cubs' Minor League baserunning instructor this season, said Pie could have the same impact on the game as Michael Jordan did in basketball.

:)

http://mlb.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20051012&content_id=1247516&vkey=news_mlb&fext=.jsp&c_id=mlb

[skiba7]

Sure I do but I get tired of the Felix Pie is god stuff by Cubs fans.

You all totally ignore all of his issues.

I would love to have Pie on the Orioles but Cubs fans act as if he is Willie Mays.

What's funny is that Adam Jones is only slightly better than Pie. Both of them are overrated.

[bej6789]

Can we get off the Felix Pie discussion please.... this topic is titled Bedard-Jones deal.... no mention of Pie. Pimp or do whatever you want with Pie in another darn thread.

[DeuceBaseman]

See this is where you don't know much about our prospects.... You would rather have Fontenot than Patterson. OK lets get it done then. We'll give you 12 Fontenots if you want. Fontenot is not a bad player and if you want Murton, Gallagher, and Fontenot we'll give it to you. Id rather give you those 3 than Pie alone. And all you guys want Murton over Marshall..... OK lets do it. The Cubs would MUCH rather give up Murton than Marshall.


I think that is selling short. Patterson needs another good season before he's a real viable prospect. That is why I said Fontenot. He's underrated, and just like Roberts defensively, but with a little more pop and less speed.

[Brando]

How about Scott to SD in a package for Khalil Greene?

[gocubs2118]

From a Cubs point of view, I don't see Hendry trading Pie in a Roberts deal if Jones wasn't involved in the deal. It just doesn't make any sense from a Cubs point a view. We already have a 2B and don't need to create another hole by trading Pie.

[centralpaosfan]

You have your take on our prospects and so do I. I want a fair trade for both of us as the next guy. I would love to trade Pie, Hill, Gallagher, Cedeno, Murton, Patterson, and Dempster for Bedard and Roberts but that just didn't happen. But if you guys offered us Roberts for Marmol I would hope to God that Hendry would reject that deal. Marmol is our most valuable player right now in my opinion. He could be our #2 starter next year if Piniella wanted to be creative. Pie is SUPPOSED to be a stud, but I have seen absolutely nothing from him at the major league level besides his awesome defense. But still, Hendry has a man crush on him and he is not goin anywhere for 2 years of Roberts. We have been drooling over Pie for like 4 years now, there's no way we trade him for a 2B for two years when we already have a good 2B. Take any combination of Gallagher, Marshall, Cedeno, Murton, Patterson, Veal, Dempster, Marquis. Take them ALL! But I see us giving you Gallagher, Murton, Cedeno, and maybe Marshall for Roberts and maybe Payton.



Fair enough. I agree that it easy to think more highly of prospects who are on the team you root for. However, the way you talk me thinks someone has a man crush of their own for Mr.Marmol

[skiba7]

From a Cubs point of view, I don't see Hendry trading Pie in a Roberts deal if Jones wasn't involved in the deal. It just doesn't make any sense from a Cubs point a view. We already have a 2B and don't need to create another hole by trading Pie.


Haha, Jones being involved in a deal? Right.