WNST Rips the Orioles Again

[Trace21230]

http://wnst.net/Home/tabid/36/EntryID/4658/Default.aspx

Here's what seems to be a summary of Drew's latest rant. From the link:


Lastly, Andy...are you ready for a belly-laugh? Here goes: I'm actually in your corner. I've gone on the air at WNST and in blog form here at WNST.net and lauded your efforts since you took over last June. I'm on your side. Archive it if you don't believe me. I've written a lot of glowing things about you. I'm your friend. But, you signed up for this task and it's not going to be a walk in the park, as you've no doubt figured out by now. I wish you all the success in the world, but I wonder if you really want to fix the franchise or if you just want to win baseball games?

So, now that the Orioles appear to be undergoing a full-scale rebuild, the bar is getting moved by WNST. Now, "winning" isn't the only thing, the Orioles are obligated to "fix the franchise." No doubt that includes things like apologizing to the fans (read: WNST and Nestor), granting access to the "fans" (read: WNST and Nestor), and otherwise doing whatever the "fans" at WNST think they should do from a public relations perspective.

I don't quote "fans" because I don't believe WNST and its listeners aren't Os fans. I quote it because Drew uses the term "fans" as if WNST and he are the voice of Orioles fans. They are not. Period. Probably they speak for some fans, but it grinds me seeing these hit pieces drafted by and on behalf of Orioles "fans."

OK, flame away.

[Pedro Cerrano]

WNST is a joke, IMO. Everytime I turn that station on I'm shocked by what I hear. Knee-jerk reactions, hyperbole to the max, etc etc.

Not that 1300 is any better really, but when I have to choose between the two I'll take 1300 (minus Anita).

[Rex Thunder]

Wow- and I thought some posters HERE overreact. I'm glad I'm not in Baltimore to even be tempted to listen to garbage like that. One step at a time, that's all you can do... one step at a time... (and we took 2 BIG steps)

[birdsfan4ever]

WNST is good at breaking Ravens news but that is about it.

[gtown]

Drew is right. Problem is that it might be a part of the team's contract with CBS radio. Might be impossible to fix. But every station should have access to speak to team employees.

[Trace21230]

Drew is right. Problem is that it might be a part of the team's contract with CBS radio. Might be impossible to fix. But every station should have access to speak to team employees.
No, Drew isn't right.

As you point out, there is undoubtedly a contract between the Orioles and 1300, just like there was probably a contract between the Orioles and WBAL last year.

That contract undoubtedly gives 1300 priority access to the Orioles. The same is true for many other major league baseball teams. If WNST wanted top access to the Orioles they should have negotiated a contract with Angelos to be the flagship station. That didn't happen. Why, I don't know. Perhaps Nestor is too cheap, the station is too tiny, or the Orioles didn't really want to be associated with WNST.

Maybe I'll send Drew an e-mail demanding answers to the question of why WNST didn't become the Os flagship station. Then we could see how HONEST WNST is, since they apparently have a monopoly on truth and honesty, at least according to them.

[Ruzious]

Whoever Drew is, he has no clue. AM's job isn't to be his buddy or to help him get ratings or to entertain anybody. His job is to build a winner, because building a winner means more happiness for O's fans, more dollars for his boss, and a better reputation and legacy for himself.

[StunninSteve]

I do think it's absolutly ridiculous that we don't have BALTIMORE on the road jerseys...

[awalt]

Well I am just a fan ("the boss" according to AM ;) ) but here are my replies to Drew:

1. Not replying to phone calls emails etc. -- Drew is not specific enough to say when and on what topics this occurred. So I can think of two: (a) communication related to the Bedard trade:

It is fairly typical for front offices not to comment on things that might give them a competitive disadvantage, and that especially goes in a trade. Here is just one puny scenario: what if there was some final issue, and he told the Mariners - "No deal, unless you call back there is no trade". What is he going to say to the media? If he says that, it makes the trade talks confrontational, and it negotiates the trade in the media. No club will like or respect that. So his alternative is to lie, which will also bite him sooner or later (for example, he says "trade should happen by Friday". Now he has given the Mariners huge leverage to just sit tight and call his bluff).

Lastly, why should the Orioles have to conduct all their business in full disclosure of the public? Does WNST? Does IBM? Does any sports club or company?

(b) communication with WNST in general. Well just maybe they have worn out their welcome with the Os. If you want to be a shock jock station, usually you burn your bridges to get any personal news. I see no reason why the Os HAVE to talk to everyone, even media outlets that stop reporting the news and try to become the news by organizing rallies against the team, etc.

(2) Baltimore on the jersey - all I'll say is while I would like to see it, I disagree with Drew that it's not a priority. Maybe it's not even considered a "baseball" decision, maybe it's a business/operaitons decision for someone else. How does the name on the jersey affect the quality of the team? How does Drew know that this is AM's responsibility? I am not saying either way, but I learned a long time ago it's pretty classless to attack someone on an issue that may not be their responsibility. I would also say I am happy AM has kept his focus on a very busy off-season (and there is still stuff left to do baseball-wise!), and not on the jersey - today.

(3) Talking only to partners - again, maybe it's not a baseball issue? Maybe it's a business issue? Maybe that's something AM can do nothing about because it's written into the contracts with the various partner stations?

(4) MASN charges - I suspect at some point, (and if it was me), we would see a well thought out marketing plan to win back fans. It's too early for that now. Two weeks ago, we didn't know if EB would be on the team, or anyone else. Things are way too fluid to know what to do to win back fans. Maybe the time to do that is once we know what the team looks like going back into ST. If the Os did that, I can't say a MASN refund would be the best way to win back fans. What about $2 upper deck night? More and better promotion items given away? More access to players? More/better fan involvement during/before/after games? Contests to win tripos to away games?

There are so many better marketing ideas than worrying about a silly MASN refund. To harp on one issue is not thinking through the complete problem of how to win fans back.

In summary, Drew makes a lot of assumptions - he cherry picks some vested-interest issues and tries to make them sound like the top priorities. He says he is in AM's court, but this is far from a balanced view - no mention of the good work done. He repeats himself several times on not having access, yet doesn't even mention some of the outright unprofessional things his radio station personnel have done. It's just a mean-spirited blog that I am sorry I read.

Note in the spirit of full disclosure, I never listen to WNST anymore. I used to all the time. I probably haven;t listened to it in over 2 years. The shock-jock and spiteful attacks by their owner turned me off. In fact, I am now mad I took t he time to read that and write this reply :mad:

[Hank Scorpio]

All you need to know about WNST is that it's run by Nestor.

That about sums it up.

[Jimbo81]

Whoa now don't knock all WNST listeners and say they aren't fans.

From 10am to 2pm is the Bob Haney show and IMO is the best sports talk show on the radio. He lets his guest have there opinion and doesn't dump his opinion on the guest in the middle of a point like most of the other ID10t's ie."BULLDOG".

If anything those guys are fans(not sure about Drew) because they did grow up around here and have watched this thing we have called Baltimore Baseball fall apart for the past 10yrs.

Now I'm not trying to defending Drew by any means, just Bob and ROB LONG:D

[Hank Scorpio]

This sense of entitlement makes me laugh.

Someone get Drew his binky before he wets himself.

[Miller192]

Who really cares? WNST likes to stir the pot. How boring would it be if all we had were Schmuck-like writers in this town?

WNST does a good job reporting on the local sports scene i.e UMBC, Loyola Basketball, Towson Football etc.

They're also the only ones who give Tony and John some airtime on their station, which I like to listen to.

I have them on in my car all the time. Where else am I going to get to hear views and opinions on Baltimore sports whenever I want?

I'm not defending them but I just get amazed how so many people get up in arms when it comes to this team and a little known Baltimore radio station.

[bej6789]

All you need to know about WNST is that it's run by Nestor.

That about sums it up.

yup, pretty much hits the nail on the head. Nasty whines way too much, way too often. I love it that when he does an interview, its 90% him talking and 10% players.

[33rdst]

NST is superfluous.

[Miller192]

yup, pretty much hits the nail on the head. Nasty whines way too much, way too often. I love it that when he does an interview, its 90% him talking and 10% players.

Now that is the truth

[Trace21230]

Whoa now don't knock all WNST listeners and say they aren't fans.

From 10am to 2pm is the Bob Haney show and IMO is the best sports talk show on the radio. He lets his guest have there opinion and doesn't dump his opinion on the guest in the middle of a point like most of the other ID10t's ie."BULLDOG".

If anything those guys are fans(not sure about Drew) because they did grow up around here and have watched this thing we have called Baltimore Baseball fall apart for the past 10yrs.

Now I'm not trying to defending Drew by any means, just Bob and ROB LONG:D

Sorry, I forgot a very important "not" in the initial post. I don't believe WNST listeners aren't fans. I also don't believe WNST speaks for all fans, or even close to it.

[SilentJames]

The problem I have with Drew and a lot of his greivances are things that are just SO surperflous and petty.

Baltimore on the road jerseys. I live in Baltimore, I work in Baltimore, I live and breathe this city. I adore it, I would LOVE to have B'more on the road jerseys. If they did that tomorrow I would buy 4, but it is such a minor issue.

Here is the deal, I am willing to bet that maybe, MAYBE 10% of this board was alive the last time an Oriole wore Baltimore on their jersey. It wasn't an issue during the glory days in the 70's and early 80's. It wasn't an issue in the 90's when the team was strong.

Maybe then it was a minor annoyance, now that the team is losing its a damndable offense. I listened to NST for a long time. There was a time when Drew would make fun of people who would constantly call up and complain about that sort of thing over and over and over and over again.

As for the charge for MASN. Well see Comcast charges people, not MASN. You don't want to pay for MASN call comcast. I know other TV providers did not raise their prices 2.15, but Comcast did.

I could sit here and tell a nice story about how the Orioles org stepped up and helped my school with a video project, but I'm not going to get into that argument.

The OP is right, the more I hear about NST complaining its not about the "fans" as they say, its about them. Last opening day when they had their lackies running around telling people they had been "banned from the stadium" Paul OH was sitting next to Casey in the pressbox.

They talk about the Orioles lying and then they do that. Nasty gets on Aubrey Huff for being on a radio-show with a stripper and then has station events at the Gentlemen's Gold Club.

I want to love NST. I do. I have been in their studio and on their air talking Orioles stuff with some of the other hosts, a couple of the new guys. But stuff like this makes me question whether to do it again.

[Miller192]

The problem I have with Drew and a lot of his greivances are things that are just SO surperflous and petty.

Baltimore on the road jerseys. I live in Baltimore, I work in Baltimore, I live and breathe this city. I adore it, I would LOVE to have B'more on the road jerseys. If they did that tomorrow I would buy 4, but it is such a minor issue.

Here is the deal, I am willing to bet that maybe, MAYBE 10% of this board was alive the last time an Oriole wore Baltimore on their jersey. It wasn't an issue during the glory days in the 70's and early 80's. It wasn't an issue in the 90's when the team was strong.

Maybe then it was a minor annoyance, now that the team is losing its a damndable offense. I listened to NST for a long time. There was a time when Drew would make fun of people who would constantly call up and complain about that sort of thing over and over and over and over again.

As for the charge for MASN. Well see Comcast charges people, not MASN. You don't want to pay for MASN call comcast. I know other TV providers did not raise their prices 2.15, but Comcast did.

I could sit here and tell a nice story about how the Orioles org stepped up and helped my school with a video project, but I'm not going to get into that argument.

The OP is right, the more I hear about NST complaining its not about the "fans" as they say, its about them. Last opening day when they had their lackies running around telling people they had been "banned from the stadium" Paul OH was sitting next to Casey in the pressbox.

They talk about the Orioles lying and then they do that. Nasty gets on Aubrey Huff for being on a radio-show with a stripper and then has station events at the Gentlemen's Gold Club.

I want to love NST. I do. I have been in their studio and on their air talking Orioles stuff with some of the other hosts, a couple of the new guys. But stuff like this makes me question whether to do it again.

This sort of thing get beat to death

But keep in mind, their purpose is to keep you listening and visiting their website. They want listeners, no matter what your point of view is.

It sounds like they are at least somewhat successfull with you James and the original poster.

[LookitsPuck]

Peace, love, and happiness.

[SilentJames]

This sort of thing get beat to death

But keep in mind, their purpose is to keep you listening and visiting their website. They want listeners, no matter what your point of view is.

It sounds like they are at least somewhat successfull with you James and the original poster.

I can honestly say I haven't listened to NST in awhile. The way Nestor got all high and mighty about the moral turpitude of Aubrey Huff and his "we aren't going to let this story go away," attitude.

Meanwhile Nestor has promotions at strip clubs.

Since then I have totally written Nestor. Nestor has a total axe to grind. Ever talk to the guy personally? You don't have a conversation with Nestor you sit and listen while he expounds his beliefs through his "let me try to look ten years younger" get up.

There are other guys on that station that are real real great guys who I have worked with and really like. I even really like Drew, I have talked to him, like him and know where he is coming from. But the constant shrill drone that keeps coming from the middle of nowhere Hart Road gets real real old.

They are preaching to the choir.

[RShack]

I do think it's absolutly ridiculous that we don't have BALTIMORE on the road jerseys...
I think there's a deadline about uniform changes sometime in May about the following season. So, the soonest it could happen is 2009 if they told MLB about it this spring. Personally, I hope they do. At the same time, if it looks like 2010 or 2011 before the team is Actually Good, I wouldn't mind if they timed it for then either, making it a symbol of a return to Baltimore being serious name in baseball once again. Either one would be fine with me. But I'd prefer it sooner rather than later.

[RShack]

but I wonder if you really want to fix the franchise or if you just want to win baseball games?
Huh? If he just wanted to win ballgames, he would have kept Erik and signed some more guys.
I don't understand how anybody could think this is a question, especially after the Erik trade.
Who is this guy?

[oldbird]

WNST IS A JOKE
Why should the baltimore Orioles even consider anything about this station after the way Nestor has bad mouthed the organization and has done stupid stunts as the free the birds. All they ever do is negative reporting never positive (expessionaly Nester) Why do you think their press passes have been denied there? I live in Parkville and you can't even pick up the signal at night you have a better chance of hearing some kids rap music from towson. Like I have said in previous post I knew Nester when he was young and he was a spunky kid , I also DJ a tailgate party for him in Pigtown when the ravens first arrived and he was the biggest jerk to the neighborhood, the cops and when he got on my mike and said for everybody to pick up the F_ _ K_ _ trash in this pig neighborhood I lost what little respect I had for him. There were kids there between 6 and 15 . And as a professional he shouldnt of done it. His uncle Luis Apparicio is probably rolling over in his grave knowing his nephew is such a jerk and how he continually downs the O's.. I would love to know what the old time Os think of him.. Thought lets have the save the 1570 frequencey picket around the station this summer:002_scool:

[NewMarketSean]

Winning fixes the franchise. Drew is an idiot.

[orayole]

WNST what?

Oh them. Yea I don't live within 2 miles of where they are so I can't get them on my radio. :002_stongue:

Seriously though, I can't stand that station. Rob Long is the only decent one I can listen to back when I was able to get their station. I don't understand how he can bare to work there with those people.

[scOtt]

*yawn* I don't really see the difference between "fixing the fanchise" and winning. If we fix it (which AM more and more seems to have the vision AND the authority to do so) then we WILL win. Beat the Skanks and Sawx? Maybe not every year, but much like the '70's, we three will all be contenders in the race til October 1st... which is really all any of us are asking for.

[BaltimoreTerp]

I guess that when it looks the Orioles are moving in the right direction, WNST gets to change the rules. Since, you know, they are the voice of all of us Orioles fans and everything.

If Nestor was the commander of my army, and Drew the lieutenant, I would take my chances getting shot for desertion.

[BaltimoreTerp]

*yawn* I don't really see the difference between "fixing the fanchise" and winning. If we fix it (which AM more and more seems to have the vision AND the authority to do so) then we WILL win. Beat the Skanks and Sawx? Maybe not every year, but much like the '70's, we three will all be contenders in the race til October 1st... which is really all any of us are asking for.

Except for WNST.

[Sunner]

I love how NST has people that they will not allow through, but it is suppose to be different with the Orioles. I'll listen to Bob Haney all day long, and at least Rob Long does not seem to fall at Nestor's feet. The rest are either not real entertaining or they are just following Nestor's lead.

[scOtt]

Except for WNST.
And that's just what I don't get. Imagine a year where the Skanks, Sawx and us are neck and neck and neck on September 15th or so. Somehow it ends up with us squeezed out of the playoffs on September 28th or something. To me, that's a sad year, but that's a GREAT year! An exciting year. To quote the movie Vision Quest, "That's pretty GD glorious!"

[Osmodiar]

Somebody find a super soaker!!

Look, the station has backed itself into a corner with it's position on the team for so long all they can do is stir new forms of negativity when the team starts addressing and correcting issues they have been beating up on them (and at times justifiably so) about for years (not rebuilding). So the Orioles take a major step in that direction and this is what they decide to write about. I don't necessarily disagree with everything that Drew says here, I just think the timing of it is borderline classless. God forbid they were to give anyone in the O's organization any sort of credit.

[threedaysrest]

I love how NST has people that they will not allow through, but it is suppose to be different with the Orioles. I'll listen to Bob Haney all day long, and at least Rob Long does not seem to fall at Nestor's feet. The rest are either not real entertaining or they are just following Nestor's lead.

I've alluded to my displeasure with many of the things PGA has done, but this is one of the most accurate statements he has ever made:
""He [Nestor] is a very unimportant person who has delusions of grandeur."

Others are correct that a few of the WNST staff and programs are worthwhile, but Nestor's petty rantings are tired and useless. It's fine to take issue with x, y, and z that the Orioles don't do correctly or when they act irrationally--which happens more than with most other baseball clubs. Otherwise, ease up on the vitriolic rants, show some baseball intelligence, Nestor, and wait for the results of the rebuild. MacPhail has done a fine job in his first off-season.

[SevisonJN]

http://wnst.net/Home/tabid/36/EntryID/4658/Default.aspx

Here's what seems to be a summary of Drew's latest rant. From the link:



So, now that the Orioles appear to be undergoing a full-scale rebuild, the bar is getting moved by WNST. Now, "winning" isn't the only thing, the Orioles are obligated to "fix the franchise." No doubt that includes things like apologizing to the fans (read: WNST and Nestor), granting access to the "fans" (read: WNST and Nestor), and otherwise doing whatever the "fans" at WNST think they should do from a public relations perspective.

I don't quote "fans" because I don't believe WNST and its listeners aren't Os fans. I quote it because Drew uses the term "fans" as if WNST and he are the voice of Orioles fans. They are not. Period. Probably they speak for some fans, but it grinds me seeing these hit pieces drafted by and on behalf of Orioles "fans."

OK, flame away.

In my opinion, major sports teams should not have exclusive rights with an individual organization (CBS). Important news should be distributed across the media outlets. Orioles officials and players should be held accountable and applauded at WNST, ESPN, and CBS. None of us really know what kind of guy PA is, our perception of him comes from beat writers and the mainstream media. What we do know is that the team has sucked for 10 consecutive years, we know that a stadium that was once sold out on bad nights is not selling out on good nights, and that AM is taking the team into a new direction. I like what AM is doing and Rome wasn't built in a day. As Orioles fanatics we want Huff, Mora, and Gibbons either released or traded. We want Payton, Millar, and maybe Roberts traded. That is asking an aweful lot from a man who just traded two All-Stars for 9 players that could help our organization turn into a contender. I am not in love with either WNST or ESPN, two radio stations that feel their opinion trumps mine. People at ESPN collect their paychecks and for the most part could care less about the teams they are reporting. I must give WNST credit for atleast being passionate about Baltimore Sports. If Anita Marks tells one more story of how great Miami is, I am going to call teh show and beg for them to send her back!

[SevisonJN]

I've alluded to my displeasure with many of the things PGA has done, but this is one of the most accurate statements he has ever made:
""He [Nestor] is a very unimportant person who has delusions of grandeur."

Others are correct that a few of the WNST staff and programs are worthwhile, but Nestor's petty rantings are tired and useless. It's fine to take issue with x, y, and z that the Orioles don't do correctly or when they act irrationally--which happens more than with most other baseball clubs. Otherwise, ease up on the vitriolic rants, show some baseball intelligence, Nestor, and wait for the results of the rebuild. MacPhail has done a fine job in his first off-season.


Nestor does get under my skin a good bit. That being said, outside of my dollar, Nestor and I are probably placed on the same shelf in PA's mind. We both are very uniportant in his world. He is a business man and the new trend in baseball is not that fans make or break your business. The MASN deal was signed and PA was guaranteed big money. He no longer needs us to show up to make the bulk of his money. I think the guy does have an urge to win, I look forward to seeing us get better. I think he will open the checkbook for a few players.

[JimDH]

If and when Baltimore ever gets back on the road jersies, you can look forward to NST taking full credit.

[Mad Mark]

What...a...complete...wanker!

When "Baltimore" isn't on the road jerseys in 2009, perhaps WNST should step forward and take the blame for riling Angelos up about it. :rolleyes:
Also, be careful what you wish for: take a look at most recent MLB uniform redesigns, and tell me how many of them have been upgrades. The price we pay for "Baltimore" could be lame-ass custom number fonts, "Baltimore" in block letters, etc. The current uniforms aren't perfect, by any means, but to suppose change=improvement in this area is not backed up by recent experience.

[gtown]

In my opinion, major sports teams should not have exclusive rights with an individual organization (CBS). Important news should be distributed across the media outlets. Orioles officials and players should be held accountable and applauded at WNST, ESPN, and CBS.I completely agree, and that is what I was trying to say a while back when I said Drew is right. In principle, news should be accessible to all outlets. However, I think Andy MacPhail can't do much about it now until the exclusive contract the Orioles agreed to with CBS Radio expires.

[geschinger]

I completely agree, and that is what I was trying to say a while back when I said Drew is right. In principle, news should be accessible to all outlets. However, I think Andy MacPhail can't do much about it now until the exclusive contract the Orioles agreed to with CBS Radio expires.

There is nothing wrong with giving media outlets that are willing to pony up some exlusivity. It is not a unique situation w/Baltimore and the O's would be doing something wrong if they didn't offer exclusivity as part of a contract.

[Dipper9]

http://wnst.net/Home/tabid/36/EntryID/4658/Default.aspx

Here's what seems to be a summary of Drew's latest rant. From the link:



So, now that the Orioles appear to be undergoing a full-scale rebuild, the bar is getting moved by WNST. Now, "winning" isn't the only thing, the Orioles are obligated to "fix the franchise." No doubt that includes things like apologizing to the fans (read: WNST and Nestor), granting access to the "fans" (read: WNST and Nestor), and otherwise doing whatever the "fans" at WNST think they should do from a public relations perspective.

I don't quote "fans" because I don't believe WNST and its listeners aren't Os fans. I quote it because Drew uses the term "fans" as if WNST and he are the voice of Orioles fans. They are not. Period. Probably they speak for some fans, but it grinds me seeing these hit pieces drafted by and on behalf of Orioles "fans."

OK, flame away.

I no longer listen to WNST because of Drew Forester. That said, Nestor was just as bad when he was on the air. Either way, I won't listen to them until Forester is removed. I am only one fan, and I know WNST will go on with or without me, but with "fans" like Drew, its no wonder the Orioles don't grant them any axcess.

[nattyboh]

i like bob Haynie and Rob Long. I think they do a pretty good job covering local sports. Bob stuck to his guns that the 0's would be a .500 team in '07.

I think that those 2 probably command the majority of their listening audience.

to slam/boycott wnst because of what nestor is, is analogous to not going to o's games because of angelos.

[McLovin]

I drive from Perry Hall to Elkridge for work, straight up and down 95. I have a 2007 car, with a nice and perfectly working radio. I cannot receive a signal from WNST during my entire commute. Are they transmitting with walky talkies are something?

I guess I should consider myself lucky.

[awalt]

I drive from Perry Hall to Elkridge for work, straight up and down 95. I have a 2007 car, with a nice and perfectly working radio. I cannot receive a signal from WNST during my entire commute. Are they transmitting with walky talkies are something?.

Don't be silly - they use much higher (http://graphics.boston.com/bonzai-fba/AP_Photo/2006/05/21/1148184569_5086.jpg)technology than that.

[birdsfan4ever]

This is from Drew's latest blog replying to a comment about what we were saying in this thread.


(EDIT from DF: Of course they can't argue against those facts, because they know I'm right. "BALTIMORE" should be a part of the club's logo and on the uniform and the team should have an open access media policy (a la the Ravens) and allow their executives to field questions from all members of the media, not just the chosen few. In all honesty, you can't expect much more from those people. They're the 2,600 left in town who think the club can do no wrong. 95% of them don't agree with what I say or what I write, yet about 98% of the 95% don't listen to the station anymore anyway...)

98% of us couldn't listen even if we wanted to because we don't live on Hart road.

[Dipper9]

This is from Drew's latest blog replying to a comment about what we were saying in this thread.



98% of us couldn't listen even if we wanted to because we don't live on Hart road.

What Drew and Nestor fail to realize is that we WANT very badly a local radio station, LIKE WNST, to openly talk about the Orioles, good and bad. We want to able to have legitimate discussions on the air. BUT, the two of them are only concerned with bashing every single move the franchise makes, and NEVER offer any actual discussion on the team. I have heard Drew literally call fans "morons" or "idiots" if they call in and have the least positive thing to say about the Orioles. We very much WANT WNST to be a open forum for the O's AND Ravens, but unfortunately Drew and Nestor would rather use their radio station as a public forum to constantly bash Peter Angelos. Well, is Nestor's station, he can do what he wants, but they shouldn't be surprised that real Orioles fans don't listen to them. Maybe they'll have a Free the Birds 3 and they can round up another 200 of their cult followers to stage the big walkout. Yeah, that will be great! :rolleyes:

[Baroquen131]

In all honesty, you can't expect much more from those people. They're the 2,600 left in town who think the club can do no wrong.

This refers to us?!? Wow. I didn't know we were a bunch of "homers". Seems to me we pretty much debate the good and the bad with this club pretty consistently (amongst the general din of internet crazies talking). I better go brush up on my reading comprehension. ;)

[Maverick2143]

I drive from Perry Hall to Elkridge for work, straight up and down 95. I have a 2007 car, with a nice and perfectly working radio. I cannot receive a signal from WNST during my entire commute. Are they transmitting with walky talkies are something?

I guess I should consider myself lucky.

:D Talks about WNST always conjours up images of a a small shack in the middle of nowhere, that is covered in tin foil.

[The Wedge]

This refers to us?!? Wow. I didn't know we were a bunch of "homers". Seems to me we pretty much debate the good and the bad with this club pretty consistently (amongst the general din of internet crazies talking). I better go brush up on my reading comprehension. ;)

Doesn't surprise me in the slightest. It's the same sort of spin cycle that said WNST wasn't allowed in the press box. Say enough truth and then hyperbolize to make your point.

[gtown]

BUT, the two of them are only concerned with bashing every single move the franchise makes, and NEVER offer any actual discussion on the team. I'm not sure what you're listening to, or if you've just been fed bad information. I've heard a lot of praise for the Bedard trade on WNST, including from Drew. That's far from "bashing every single move."

And I've heard a lot of discussion on the team on WNST--far more than I hear on 1300, which seems to be all football all the time, especially in the afternoon when Anita is on.

[Dipper9]

I'm not sure what you're listening to, or if you've just been fed bad information. I've heard a lot of praise for the Bedard trade on WNST, including from Drew. That's far from "bashing every single move."

And I've heard a lot of discussion on the team on WNST--far more than I hear on 1300, which seems to be all football all the time, especially in the afternoon when Anita is on.

In all honesty, I do NOT listen to WNST anymore. And saying a few nice things about the Bedard trade does not eliminate the past 3 or 4 years of Orioles bashing. I'll have to take your word for it, I guess.

[BaltimoreTerp]

I'm not sure what you're listening to, or if you've just been fed bad information. I've heard a lot of praise for the Bedard trade on WNST, including from Drew. That's far from "bashing every single move."

That's just because if they didn't talk about it, or if they bashed it, or if they continued to whine about how long it took, they would lose any credibility they have left.

Since most of them aren't journalists with that built-in credibility, that wouldn't be good.

[BaltimoreTerp]

This refers to us?!? Wow. I didn't know we were a bunch of "homers". Seems to me we pretty much debate the good and the bad with this club pretty consistently (amongst the general din of internet crazies talking). I better go brush up on my reading comprehension. ;)

Trust me, you don't need to. HE needs to brush up on his vocabulary and word definitions.

[Miller192]

As I said before, I think some of you are throwing the baby out with the bath water. It's perfectly fine to criticize Drew and Nestor's point of view and attach any label of self promotion to that.

But, WNST has a lot of good parts to it as well. As I've said, they cover local sports probably better than anyone else in this town. Which is a shame for all the Keith Mills and Scott Garceaus that have been around much longer.

As an alum from UMBC, I think it's great that Drew has mens BB coach Randy Monroe on his show and WNST is even sponsoring a family night. They did the same for Towson and Loyola.

I think Bob Haynie and Rob Long are also head and shoulders above anything else you're going to find here locally.

I don't know, Tony thinks enough of them to have his OH staff regularly appear on their station. I think that means something considering this is the pulse of the O's fan.

[Mad Mark]

Just read a bit of Drew's blog...wow, just wow.
Now, maybe it's just me, but if I worked for some 5-watt AM station that broadcast out of somebody's basement, at a range of (apparently) 300 yards in any direction, I think I'd at least try to keep my ego in check.
Yeah, it's just me...

[gtown]

But, WNST has a lot of good parts to it as well. As I've said, they cover local sports probably better than anyone else in this town. Which is a shame for all the Keith Mills and Scott Garceaus that have been around much longer.

I very much appreciate that the station is not corporate owned--a rarity in any market these days. That allows them to cover local sports--perhaps out of necessity trying to find a niche. But I'll take that. Look at what the Tribune has done to The Sun. You can't even get high school basketball schedules of same day games on some days. Depends whether or not they have the space.

We have two of the best high school players in the country here in Henry Sims and Sean Mosley. You'd never know it by reading the Sun unless you looked real hard. I can remember when Quintin Dailey, Tony Guy et al. were first page news. You knew when they were playing and what happened. I'd hate to think of the way this tabloid sports section would have covered Mark Teixeira in his high school days.

So I'll take their 5 watts over at WNST.

[Miller192]

I very much appreciate that the station is not corporate owned--a rarity in any market these days. That allows them to cover local sports--perhaps out of necessity trying to find a niche. But I'll take that. Look at what the Tribune has done to The Sun. You can't even get high school basketball schedules of same day games on some days. Depends whether or not they have the space.

We have two of the best high school players in the country here in Henry Sims and Sean Mosley. You'd never know it by reading the Sun unless you looked real hard. I can remember when Quintin Dailey, Tony Guy et al. were first page news. You knew when they were playing and what happened. I'd hate to think of the way this tabloid sports section would have covered Mark Teixeira in his high school days.

So I'll take their 5 watts over at WNST.

This is all and exactly what I am saying. Good points regarding Sims and Mosley, you'd think being a two sport town we would get a little better local coverage out of the Sun.

[Trace21230]

This refers to us?!? Wow. I didn't know we were a bunch of "homers". Seems to me we pretty much debate the good and the bad with this club pretty consistently (amongst the general din of internet crazies talking). I better go brush up on my reading comprehension. ;)
Amazing.

If there are 2600 "homers" posting on this site, that's still about two thousand more than showed up for Drew and Nestor's FTB rally.

[AgentOrange]

I drive from Perry Hall to Elkridge for work, straight up and down 95. I have a 2007 car, with a nice and perfectly working radio. I cannot receive a signal from WNST during my entire commute. Are they transmitting with walky talkies are something?

I guess I should consider myself lucky.

I hear ya bro, I was about to say the same thing. I can't get 1570 on rte 100. I think that is a joke.