Darren McFadden is Fast

[bryanman8]

Ran a 4.27 40 in apparently regular tennis shoes. Sick.

I think this guy is better than Adrian Peterson and obviously that's saying something. The Dolphins really lucked out because now the offers for them to trade the #1 pick got much better. I just pray to god the Cowboys aren't able to get him with their two first round picks. Especially if they're able to keep Barber as insurance for him, that would be insane.

I could see Oakland putting in a nice offer to get their 2nd straight #1 pick in an attempt to really ensure the future success of their offense. Again, just not Dallas, please.

[Dracula]

Yea Dallas is scaring me cuz they have an extra 1st to burn and Miami has their boy Parcells, it seems like a perfect match basically.

[BaltimoreTerp]

This is why I keep saying the Ravens should trade back for Dallas' picks. The #8 overall, a late second rounder and Marion Barber would be tough for Miami to turn down. Or even a couple more picks in Barber's stead.

[DuffMan]

Ran a 4.27 40 in apparently regular tennis shoes. Sick.


As I said in another post, just b/c the combine claims he ran this time doesn't mean it's true.

[bryanman8]

As I said in another post, just b/c the combine claims he ran this time doesn't mean it's true.
It's all a conspiracy?

Don't they use the same clock for everybody?

Whatever his time was, he runs pretty much faster than everybody else. He is damn good.

[BaltimoreTerp]

As I said in another post, just b/c the combine claims he ran this time doesn't mean it's true.

That's the "unofficial time"; probably from a scout. I think the reported official time was 4.33 or something very close.

[BaltimoreTerp]

http://www.fflivewire.com/players/PlayersCombine.asp

Chris Johnson (http://www.nfldraftcountdown.com/scoutingreports/rb/chrisjohnson.html) ran a 4.24...

[DuffMan]

It's all a conspiracy?

Don't they use the same clock for everybody?

Whatever his time was, he runs pretty much faster than everybody else. He is damn good.

It is a conspiracy!! As a runner myself these bogus 40 times drive me crazy. (For the record I'm a distance runner, but I still respect the speed of Sprinters)


Here's proof.

Read this article.

http://www.usoc.org/11611_32384.htm

[DuffMan]

It is a conspiracy!! As a runner myself these bogus 40 times drive me crazy. (For the record I'm a distance runner, but I still respect the speed of Sprinters)


Here's proof.

Read this article.

http://www.usoc.org/11611_32384.htm

If you don't want to read the whole thing I'll point out a few of the main points.

The fastest time threw 40 yards (during a 100 meter race) was by Ben Johnson. He was an excellent starter and at the 1988 olympics he went through 40 at 4.38 seconds!!! This was a world class sprinter who was also using steroids and he only went through in 4.38!!! He also had on track spikes (which are very lightweight shoes) on a very fast surface track.

These guys hand time as apposed to automatic timing which is precise. When hand timing you add .24 second to the time. That's 1/4 a second right there.

These guys don't go on a starter's pistol either. They start the time when the athlete reacts. Reaction time for a human from gun to movement is another 2 tenth's of a second.

That's almost half a second right there!!! McFadden's time is already approaching 4.8

There's a few more tidbits I could post from the article, but I'll leave it at this for now.

[erb8472]

You mean to tell me I actually ran a 7+.

Thanks for ruining my day ATBC. :D

[biggsy]

If you don't want to read the whole thing I'll point out a few of the main points.

The fastest time threw 40 yards (during a 100 meter race) was by Ben Johnson. He was an excellent starter and at the 1988 olympics he went through 40 at 4.38 seconds!!! This was a world class sprinter who was also using steroids and he only went through in 4.38!!! He also had on track spikes (which are very lightweight shoes) on a very fast surface track.

These guys hand time as apposed to automatic timing which is precise. When hand timing you add .24 second to the time. That's 1/4 a second right there.

These guys don't go on a starter's pistol either. They start the time when the athlete reacts. Reaction time for a human from gun to movement is another 2 tenth's of a second.

That's almost half a second right there!!! McFadden's time is already approaching 4.8

There's a few more tidbits I could post from the article, but I'll leave it at this for now.



If you really wanna believe McFadden only ran a 4.8 40 then you go ahead and believe what you want.

IMO that is beyond stupid. I understand they're point, and yes the 40 times are probably a little off, but if you watched McFadden actually run the 40 at the combine then you'd realize how fast he actually is. Just because your not a professional sprinter doesn't mean you can't be fast.

And that article is a bit off in its stats too, sportscenter broke it down last year and said that Justin Gatlin would run an estimated 3.88 40 yard dash based on his 110 yard times.

[DuffMan]

If you really wanna believe McFadden only ran a 4.8 40 then you go ahead and believe what you want.

IMO that is beyond stupid. I understand they're point, and yes the 40 times are probably a little off, but if you watched McFadden actually run the 40 at the combine then you'd realize how fast he actually is. Just because your not a professional sprinter doesn't mean you can't be fast.

And that article is a bit off in its stats too, sportscenter broke it down last year and said that Justin Gatlin would run an estimated 3.88 40 yard dash based on his 110 yard times.

I never said 4.8 is not fast.

I don't think there's any need for name calling here.

I never said that McFadden is not fast, I just said that I think these times are BS. I know they aren't sprinters, although many of the football players also run track in the spring.

They don't run the 110 yard race in track they run 100 meters.

Apparently sports center holds more sway with you than an article that I linked.

[biggsy]

I never said 4.8 is not fast.

I don't think there's any need for name calling here.

I never said that McFadden is not fast, I just said that I think these times are BS. I know they aren't sprinters, although many of the football players also run track in the spring.

They don't run the 110 yard race in track they run 100 meters.

Apparently sports center holds more sway with you than an article that I linked.


Where was the name calling ? I said thinking McFadden only ran a 4.8 was stupid, I didn't say that about you personally. Plus they do run a 110 meter, its just only done in hurdles. My mistake. Either way we are putting our faith in the media. Sportscenter may be more biased towards the NFL having the greatest athletes in the world whereas your article is more biased towards olympic athletes.

Actually, I thought I remember reading something last year or two years ago that said the official 40 times from the combine were being done by lasers that start the time when the athlete crosses the starting line and stops the time when he crosses the finish line to make the 40 time as realistic as possible.

In either case it just goes against good judgement to say McFadden only runs a 4.8-5.0, 40 yards dash. Especially if you actually saw him run at the combine.

[Sports Guy]

Dallas signs Moss and trades Barber and 2 first rounders to get McFadden.

McFadden, Witten, Owens, Moss and Romo.....That would be nice, huh?

[biggsy]

Dallas signs Moss and trades Barber and 2 first rounders to get McFadden.

McFadden, Witten, Owens, Moss and Romo.....That would be nice, huh?

I don't know if Owens could stand seeing someone else catching all "his" TD passes though.

[Sports Guy]

I don't know if Owens could stand seeing someone else catching all "his" TD passes though.

I agree...That would either be the best offense ever or blow up in their faces.

[Camden_yardbird]

That would be a far more dysfuctional offense than anything JJ has had to deal with before.

[Hallas]

If you don't want to read the whole thing I'll point out a few of the main points.

The fastest time threw 40 yards (during a 100 meter race) was by Ben Johnson. He was an excellent starter and at the 1988 olympics he went through 40 at 4.38 seconds!!! This was a world class sprinter who was also using steroids and he only went through in 4.38!!! He also had on track spikes (which are very lightweight shoes) on a very fast surface track.

These guys hand time as apposed to automatic timing which is precise. When hand timing you add .24 second to the time. That's 1/4 a second right there.

These guys don't go on a starter's pistol either. They start the time when the athlete reacts. Reaction time for a human from gun to movement is another 2 tenth's of a second.

That's almost half a second right there!!! McFadden's time is already approaching 4.8

There's a few more tidbits I could post from the article, but I'll leave it at this for now.

Well as far as I know the combine's official times are electronically timed, which hopefully at least puts everyone on an even playing field. Also, it makes more sense to say that if steroidized Ben Johnson ran an electronically timed 40-yard dash he'd be in the 4.18 range, since the 4.38 time includes his reaction time to the gun. That makes perfect sense to me. That puts him in line with players like Darrell Green, who would likely be a sub-10 100 meter sprinter if he tried. (He ran 10.08 for his college track team.)

[fdmstng99]

I would love to get Dallas' 2 first round picks since we could use some depth on our defense but if Dallas gets the first pick you know they are going to get McFadden. That is just more of a chance that Matt Ryan falls to us even tho I think the Falcons will pick him up if he gets past the first pick. But you never know. ;)

[tennOsfan]

I might be proven wrong, but if McFadden was really great, Arkansas would've competed a lot more during his years there.

I'm not saying he won't have a successful NFL career, but I don't think he's up to Adrian Peterson's level.

[Life Long O Fan]

I might be proven wrong, but if McFadden was really great, Arkansas would've competed a lot more during his years there.

I'm not saying he won't have a successful NFL career, but I don't think he's up to Adrian Peterson's level.

I think that you have to look at the team that he was on and the conference that he played in. Their defense wasn't very good. He never played with a good QB so every team could stack the box. Arkansas' only game was the run game. If they got behind because of their D, it was harder to come back.

[biggsy]

I might be proven wrong, but if McFadden was really great, Arkansas would've competed a lot more during his years there.

I'm not saying he won't have a successful NFL career, but I don't think he's up to Adrian Peterson's level.


Thats not true at all. McFadden did everything he could to lead his team. His freshman year he ran for 1100 yards and 11 TDs, his sophmore year, 1600 and 14 TDs and his junior year 1800 and 16 TDs. As a RB theres not too much more he could do for his team to put them over the top.

I love Peterson and have been a huge fan since I watched his High school team on ESPN2 before he even went to college, he's always been a stud RB. But McFadden can do everything Peterson can do, he's got under-rated power inside the tackles and is also amazing outside the tackles in the open field. A teams success cannot be put on one persons shoulders.

[BaltimoreTerp]

Thats not true at all. McFadden did everything he could to lead his team. His freshman year he ran for 1100 yards and 11 TDs, his sophmore year, 1600 and 14 TDs and his junior year 1800 and 16 TDs. As a RB theres not too much more he could do for his team to put them over the top.

I love Peterson and have been a huge fan since I watched his High school team on ESPN2 before he even went to college, he's always been a stud RB. But McFadden can do everything Peterson can do, he's got under-rated power inside the tackles and is also amazing outside the tackles in the open field. A teams success cannot be put on one persons shoulders.

And don't forget that he had a 1,000-yard back he was sharing carries with.