Skins Offseason/Draft Thread

[Dracula]

Redskins and draft in the same sentence? Thats right, we have a full compliment of picks that Danny Boy hasn't burned yet. Let's look at our needs:

O-Line: Need young Depth. Address through Draft. Brandon Albert could be a good choice with 1st round pick to replace Kendall, he also can play Tackle. Draft is still pretty deep with O-Line after round 1 however.

WR: Need bigger possession type WR to go with Moss/Randle El. Lots of different options here. Hackett has visited with Skins, could sign him cheap and take a WR with a 2nd/3rd round or later (J. Nelson?). Or use the 1st rounder on Sweed/Kelley.

DE/DT: Need a pass rusher/DT depth (Griffin getting old). Different options here. Could go FA route and sign a DE, then take one later in the draft. Draft is deep with DE, could get some good talent in 2nd/3rd/or later rounds. Or use 1st rounder on Merling/Campbell/best available DE at 21.

CB: Springs getting old, Rogers is a ? with injury. Not a huge need IMO, could go cheap FA route. Rodgers-Cromartie is the hyped up CB this year but with good reason, could burn another 1st on him or draft a CB late for younger depth.

S: Landry and then who? IMO, Doughty can be a serviceable starter with LL. Cheap vet FA for depth or a late draft pick for depth.

I believe we will get a comp pick for losing Dockery and maybe a another 1 or 2 for other FA's lost.

Draft:

1st: Tough choice here. I would take OG Albert. Need to protect young JC from getting slaughtered again and give CP some holes. This would be the safest pick to make here IMO, even though Sweed is tempting.

2nd: Could take a WR here, I personally like Jordy Nelson, would be a bit of a reach. Or go with best DE left. If we don't get someone like Hackett I'd go WR.

3rd: WR or DE whichever is left.

4th+: Draft depth for lines and a CB.

Feels good to have more than 1 draft pick and not blowing money on B. Lloyd

Thoughts?

[Dr. FLK]

I have this gut feeling that the Skins try trading a pick for Deangelo Hall. I could see a 3rd rounder being offered.

I think the first round pick will be used on a D-Line guy, maybe Campbell from Miami.

[Danielos38]

I have this gut feeling that the Skins try trading a pick for Deangelo Hall. I could see a 3rd rounder being offered.

I think the first round pick will be used on a D-Line guy, maybe Campbell from Miami.

Another option at DE is Derrick Harvey from Florida. He's a local product from Eleanor Roosevelt in PG County and had 3 sacks and a forced fumble two years ago in the national championship. I've heard that he could drop to the 2nd round. If so, the Skins need to snag him, because he'll be a steal.

[backwardsk]

Give it time, my friend. The Redskins will blow those picks before the draft. :) I'll play along, although I don't follow college football much so I really don't know too much about these guys.

I would use the first rounder on a D-Lineman. It appears that the DEs are deeper than the DTs. You have Golstin and Montgomery as young guys on the interior. I'd love to have a big-time DE paired up with Carter. Wilson did well when called upon, but I think this is the place to go instead of an OL or WR.

The injuries to Rogers and McIntosh worry me. I think they'll use at least two picks to get an LB and CB.

You can get a solid O-lineman in the second or third round (Dockery, Jansen). I'd imagine that their line will return (Samuals, Kendall, Rabach, Thomas, and Jansen) with Heyer as a backup. This is where, imo, you get a guy that you don't have to start right away, but can mold them into a good lineman with Bugel's help. Hopefully a guard/center.

I've read somewhere that they'll get a compensation 3rd round pick for Dockery and 2 additional 7th round picks for two other guys (one being Holdman). This isn't official as it won't be announced until the end of the month, but it was predicted by a guy who has a good track record for these things.

I believe Hackett will come here. Then you have Moss, ARE, Hackett, and maybe Mix.

[Dracula]

IMO, the top tier DE's will be gone by 21 and no other DE on the board will be worth that high of a pick. Sweed or Kelley would be tempting but also may be gone by then. Thats why i said go Albert, top OG in this class and can also play OT. He could replace Kendall immediately and Kendall can be good depth.

Generally, OL is the safest pick you can make in the first round, they rarely bust hard like skill positions do. I believe that you really need to build your team through the trenches to win so I hope the Skins go that way. Both Super Bowl teams had very good line play, this is where you win games.

I hope they don't burn a 1st rounder on D. Hall, too much baggage, don't really need him, I'll pass on that.

I heard some rumor that WR Roy Williams could be on the block. If true, I would probably give up the 1st for him, but seriously doubt this rumor.

[bryanman8]

Another option at DE is Derrick Harvey from Florida. He's a local product from Eleanor Roosevelt in PG County and had 3 sacks and a forced fumble two years ago in the national championship. I've heard that he could drop to the 2nd round. If so, the Skins need to snag him, because he'll be a steal.
Harvey in the second round? Naw, now some drafts have him going as high as 10th. The one that we could steal in the 2nd round is Calais Campbell. I think we hired our new D-Line coach (who previously held that position at Miami) because we were going to pick Campbell in the 1st round but his awful showing at the Combine has some people projecting him to us in the 2nd round now. May need to trade up to get him though.

Really have no idea what the Skins are going to do at this point but Hackett is visiting Wed. and then hopefully that will make WR much more solid. Still, if the BPA in the 1st is a WR, and if Malcom Kelly somehow falls, you have to take him, and I would love to get a guy like Jordy Nelson in the 2nd or 3rd round. Cromartie's cousin also has to be considered if he falls in the 1st round and if not we need to use a first-day pick on a corner for sure with Rogers expected to be out a while. A pass-rushing DE is a glaring need and we'd like to upgrade at DT as well with Griffin's future unclear and some people thinking Golston isn't a starting-caliber player. Could Dre Moore be a 1st or 2nd round possibility?

Either way, it should be exciting for once now that we've finally got just about all our picks (no 4th but apparently we will get a comp. pick in the 3rd). Expect us also to take a 3rd string QB at some point in the draft (Erik Ainge?).

[Dracula]

As far as D-Line goes. The Skins desperately need another solid pass rusher alongside Carter, Daniels just doesn't get any pressure at all. It's possible that Harvey could fall to us at 21, not likely, but I wouldn't mind that pick.

Lawrence Jackson, Campbell, and Groves are all projected to go in Rds 2-3. I wouldn't mind waiting and taking one of those 3 with our 2nd or one of our 3rds.

Dre Moore will not go in the 1st and probably not the 2nd, I think he's a projected mid rounder. As a terp fan I can say that he's a pretty solid DT. I would think about spending a 3rd on him if we got an extra 3rd. He's a "workout warrior" and doesn't play as good as his combine or weight room numbers would suggest.

[bryanman8]

As far as D-Line goes. The Skins desperately need another solid pass rusher alongside Carter, Daniels just doesn't get any pressure at all. It's possible that Harvey could fall to us at 21, not likely, but I wouldn't mind that pick.

Lawrence Jackson, Campbell, and Groves are all projected to go in Rds 2-3. I wouldn't mind waiting and taking one of those 3 with our 2nd or one of our 3rds.

Dre Moore will not go in the 1st and probably not the 2nd, I think he's a projected mid rounder. As a terp fan I can say that he's a pretty solid DT. I would think about spending a 3rd on him if we got an extra 3rd. He's a "workout warrior" and doesn't play as good as his combine or weight room numbers would suggest.
Naw, Moore will definitely be at least a second rounder and probably gone before we pick. A lot of mocks have him going first round now. You're right about him being a workout warrior but remember that Merriman wasn't thought of as such an incredible in-game player when he was here either. UMD players have a pretty good track record in the NFL.

Groves is also projected by many to be a first rounder so I doubt he falls late to us in the 2nd round. Jackson and Campbell are definitely possibilities. It'll be fun to watch how it shapes up.

Btw, I'm with you on the Jordy Nelson bandwagon. Watching his highlight videos on Youtube is sick and his numbers this past year are unheard of. Seems like a bigger version of Wes Welker.

[Elon Os Fan]

I really wanted us to get Larry Fitzgarld but he just got a new contract with Zona.

I like a CB in round 1.

[Dracula]

Naw, Moore will definitely be at least a second rounder and probably gone before we pick. A lot of mocks have him going first round now. You're right about him being a workout warrior but remember that Merriman wasn't thought of as such an incredible in-game player when he was here either. UMD players have a pretty good track record in the NFL.

Groves is also projected by many to be a first rounder so I doubt he falls late to us in the 2nd round. Jackson and Campbell are definitely possibilities. It'll be fun to watch how it shapes up.

Btw, I'm with you on the Jordy Nelson bandwagon. Watching his highlight videos on Youtube is sick and his numbers this past year are unheard of. Seems like a bigger version of Wes Welker.

Wow, some mocks have Dre Moore in the 1st round? I like the guy but man that would really be a reach IMO. That would be another case of the NFL putting way too much stock into the combine/weight room.

Basically, I think 1 of those 3 DE's will end up falling to our 2nd and we can grab them.

I like Jordy Nelson, but it seems like everyone's on his bandwagon this year so who knows where he's gonna go. I wouldn't be surprised at anything from 2nd-4th.

If you guys haven't seen his highlight vid on youtube you should check it out. Another one has him burning CB Aqib Talib (sp?), a 1st round CB.

[Elon Os Fan]

Anquan Boldin will kill in the west coast offense.

5 yd pass could be turned into a 25 yd gain after he breaks 6 tackles.

Good Lord. Make it happen Danny boy.

[Dracula]

Bryant Johnson signed a 1 year deal with SF today and I also heard that Hackett has rejected the Skins initial offer.

I would say no big deal if we don't get either. Nice to see the Skins aren't trying to give outrageous contracts for these guys.

Looks like the Skins could be picking a WR in rounds 1 or 2 if they don't sign another WR.

[backwardsk]

Bryant Johnson signed a 1 year deal with SF today and I also heard that Hackett has rejected the Skins initial offer.

I would say no big deal if we don't get either. Nice to see the Skins aren't trying to give outrageous contracts for these guys.

Looks like the Skins could be picking a WR in rounds 1 or 2 if they don't sign another WR.

When was the last time you heard of a free agent turning down a Redskins offer? Maybe times are changing for the better.

Jacksonville picked up some receivers this offseason (Porter and somebody else). I wonder if one of Jones, Wilford, or Reggie Williams may become available and cheap.

[Dracula]

Well, Hackett goes to Cacalacca. Looking more and more likely that the Redskins are gonna take a WR in round 1. NFLDraftCountdown.com just put out their latest mock and had the Skins taking Kelley in the first and Campbell in the 2nd.

Right now, that seems like a possibility. Although, I heard that Cerrato believes the pass rushing opposite Carter was fine, they just need more push up the middle. If they believe that to be the case, than I could see Dre Moore or Laws going in the 2nd for us.