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Icterus galbula
04-09-2008, 08:18 PM
I was just offered this trade in a 14 team full stat non-keeper league:


Rich Hill
Pedro Martinez (DL)
Delmon Young


for

Alex Gordon
Johnny Cueto



I do need pitching and Hill is more attractive than Cueto. My reservation is that I don't have a quality 3B to replace Gordon (Iwanamura is all I got) and Young might be less useful once the Twins get back to full health.

I'm thinking I'll do it, but wanted some thoughts first.

allstar1579
04-09-2008, 08:34 PM
I was just offered this trade in a 14 team full stat non-keeper league:


Rich Hill
Pedro Martinez (DL)
Delmon Young


for

Alex Gordon
Johnny Cueto



I do need pitching and Hill is more attractive than Cueto. My reservation is that I don't have a quality 3B to replace Gordon (Iwanamura is all I got) and Young might be less useful once the Twins get back to full health.

I'm thinking I'll do it, but wanted some thoughts first.

Pedro will do nothing for the year, throw him out of the equation. It's Rich Hill and Delmon for Gordon and Cueto. Think of Cueto as being Liriano circa 2005, you might remember his 11 wins and 2.00 era at the all-star break. It's hard to project rookies, so you never know with him, but Gordon will outhit Young. Don't get me wrong, Delmon will still have 20/20 and 75 RBI, but Gordon will have closer to 30/15 and 100 RBI. Hill doesn't look as sharp this year as he did last year, and even at his best you are looking 12 wins 3.75 ERA with 120 k. Cueto has like a 13 k/9inn so that means if he gets 150 inn. that's 216 K. I'd look for that to settle closer to 10 k/9 before its all done, but still looking between 150-200 k even if they keep his innings down.

Lt Melmo
04-09-2008, 10:01 PM
Pedro will do nothing for the year, throw him out of the equation. It's Rich Hill and Delmon for Gordon and Cueto. Think of Cueto as being Liriano circa 2005, you might remember his 11 wins and 2.00 era at the all-star break. It's hard to project rookies, so you never know with him, but Gordon will outhit Young. Don't get me wrong, Delmon will still have 20/20 and 75 RBI, but Gordon will have closer to 30/15 and 100 RBI. Hill doesn't look as sharp this year as he did last year, and even at his best you are looking 12 wins 3.75 ERA with 120 k. Cueto has like a 13 k/9inn so that means if he gets 150 inn. that's 216 K. I'd look for that to settle closer to 10 k/9 before its all done, but still looking between 150-200 k even if they keep his innings down.
Slow down... you can't project someone to have a Liriano season after TWO starts. Cueto had 160 innings in the MINORS last year, with 170 K's. If you honestly use 2 starts to project an entire pitcher's season, I'd love to play in some leagues with you. Seriously, TWO starts. This entire post is silly.

SevisonJN
04-10-2008, 02:55 AM
Pedro will do nothing for the year, throw him out of the equation. It's Rich Hill and Delmon for Gordon and Cueto. Think of Cueto as being Liriano circa 2005, you might remember his 11 wins and 2.00 era at the all-star break. It's hard to project rookies, so you never know with him, but Gordon will outhit Young. Don't get me wrong, Delmon will still have 20/20 and 75 RBI, but Gordon will have closer to 30/15 and 100 RBI. Hill doesn't look as sharp this year as he did last year, and even at his best you are looking 12 wins 3.75 ERA with 120 k. Cueto has like a 13 k/9inn so that means if he gets 150 inn. that's 216 K. I'd look for that to settle closer to 10 k/9 before its all done, but still looking between 150-200 k even if they keep his innings down.

I wouldn't make that deal.