April 14th vs The Blue Jays

[DREKTUNES]

Per Roch -

The lineup
Brian Roberts - 2B

Melvin Mora - 3B

Nick Markakis - RF

Kevin Millar - 1B

Aubrey Huff - DH

Luke Scott - LF

Ramon Hernandez - C

Adam Jones - CF

Luis Hernandez - SS

Matt Albers - P

[BaltBird 24]

Here's to a first great start of many for Matt Albers as a Baltimore Oriole!

[mdterps4life25]

Once again, the set lineup remains.

[Why Not?]

Cito Sucks!

[OsandBohs11]

Kill the Blow Jays.

I bet Albers goes 6.2 IP

[RShack]

I completely forgot David Eckstein. Remember when he was a Good Story?

[orayole]

Did everyone notice during the National Anthem that the military guys all kept their hats on?

LOL at the hat haters! :rolleyes:

[Why Not?]

Nice turn, but MAN is Frank Thomas slow. Like, handicapped slow.

[JohnLockesGhost]

Nice turn, but MAN is Frank Thomas slow. Like, handicapped slow.

Seriously, get the man a wheelchair.

I don't get how that bloop to left wasn't caught. Must've been playing Wells really deep.

[PaulFolk]

Seriously, get the man a wheelchair.

I don't get how that bloop to left wasn't caught. Must've been playing Wells really deep.
Didn't seem like Jones or Scott played that one particularly well. That looked like a ball that should've been caught.

[OrioleParkatWrigley]

Nice one-hop throw by Roberts and scoop by Millar to get Albers out of too much trouble.

[Big Mac]

And Roberts leads off with a single.

[Big Mac]

Now a bloop by Melvin

[JTrea81]

Take a pitch Nick... :rolleyes:

[tywright]

BRob needed to tag up there

[tywright]

Take a pitch Nick... :rolleyes:

He doesn't see any good pitches anymore.

[OrioleParkatWrigley]

Haha, payback blooper by Mora

[tywright]

There we go Millar

[PaulFolk]

Shannon Stewart has a preposterously bad arm. He couldn't even throw it to the cutoff man on the fly.

[JTrea81]

About freaking time Millar delivers in the cleanup spot. Would have been nice to have a XBH there...

[tywright]

Shannon Stewart has a preposterously bad arm. He couldn't even throw it to the cutoff man on the fly.

Reed Johnson must be really bad then

[JohnLockesGhost]

Those half innings were so similar, it's freaky.

[PaulFolk]

About freaking time Millar delivers in the cleanup spot. Would have been nice to have a XBH there...
Is this a serious post?

[JTrea81]

Ugh, inning ending DP. At least we tied it. Clean slate for Albers...

[PaulFolk]

Those half innings were so similar, it's freaky.
I was just about to say that. Three singles, one run, and the #5 hitter grounds into an inning-ending double play. Albers and McGowan were separated at birth.

[tywright]

Huff hitting .239 now after the DP and is 2 for 19 since his 4 for 4 game. So inconsistent

[Why Not?]

Shannon Stewart has a preposterously bad arm. He couldn't even throw it to the cutoff man on the fly.

Buck's comment was "he doesn't throw at all"

[OrioleParkatWrigley]

Those half innings were so similar, it's freaky.

Hopefully they don't end the same way!

edit: I'm on a really delayed feed, so this probably sounded stupid :(

[Why Not?]

Reed Johnson must be really bad then

I think the Jays were tired of his attitude as much as anything.

[blueberryale77]

I think the Jays were tired of his attitude as much as anything.

What was wrong with his attitude?

[tywright]

Hey Paul...whats the stadium gun showing Albers at? MASN has him 93-94 with his 4 seamer and 88 or so for the 2 seamer.

[JohnLockesGhost]

Nice play by Mora.

I thought Reed Johnson was a good player. At least, he played well against the Orioles, which means I hate his guts.

[PaulFolk]

Hey Paul...whats the stadium gun showing Albers at? MASN has him 93-94 with his 4 seamer at 88 or so for the 2 seamer.
The stadium gun does not seem to be working today.

[Dr. FLK]

I am so jealous of the kid who got that ball. He's at the game, got a ball, and has a brownie...

[cindyluvsbrady]

Hi All!:)
GO MATT!!!!!!!!

[cindyluvsbrady]

I am so jealous of the kid who got that ball. He's at the game, got a ball, and has a brownie...

I know.Life is so unfair:002_ssad:

[Dr. FLK]

That a boy Albers!

[Bahama O's Fan]

We won't see Albers long tonight; his pitch count is getting up there

[Dr. FLK]

The stadium gun does not seem to be working today.

Why do they have so many problems with the stadium gun? It seems like it's always messed up.

[tywright]

We won't see Albers long tonight; his pitch count is getting up there

Yeah Trembley said it would be "tremendous" if we got 5 out of Albers

[JohnLockesGhost]

We won't see Albers long tonight; his pitch count is getting up there

He still has time to settle down and have a good run of innings.

4-3 Ground out to end the inning.

[Dr. FLK]

Yeah Trembley said it would be "tremendous" if we got 5 out of Albers

I wonder why. It's not like Albers has never started before...

[wickedwitch]

I wonder why. It's not like Albers has never started before...

But he's been in the bullpen recently and hasn't been stretched out.

[cindyluvsbrady]

I will buy the Os a new radar gun.All I would ask in return is to sit in the Os dugout!;)

[Dr. FLK]

I will buy the Os a new radar gun.All I would ask in return is to sit in the Os dugout!;)

You deserve to be in there more than Jay Payton does...

[cindyluvsbrady]

Who left early because their Dad had a seizure??:confused:

[cindyluvsbrady]

I Love Adam!!!:)

[JohnLockesGhost]

Geez, that was a hell of a pitch to pull into left.

Nice job, Adam.

[JohnLockesGhost]

Who left early because their Dad had a seizure??:confused:

Jaba Chamberlain of the NY Yankees.

Hey now. A bottom of the order rally. :)

[cindyluvsbrady]

I Love Luis!!!:)
He is a good boy!!!

[cindyluvsbrady]

You deserve to be in there more than Jay Payton does...

Thank YOU:)

[cindyluvsbrady]

cindydoesntluvvernon!:(

[Why Not?]

What was wrong with his attitude?

He complained about his playing time. I'm not sure the details, but there might have been some other disagreements.

[Icterus galbula]

This is the first time I've gotten an extended look at Albers this season, and I like what I see, for the most part.

[orioles77]

I'm right there with you. Their has been a lot of pitches that could have been called strikes so far.

[Dr. FLK]

This is the first time I've gotten an extended look at Albers this season, and I like what I see, for the most part.

So far I like every player we've gotten in the Miggy deal (except Patton who I can't judge yet).

[PaulFolk]

Ooh, just got my Adam Jones T-shirt.

[Dr. FLK]

Did Thorne really think MelMo had any chance to get to 2nd on that? No chance.

Nice hit Mora...now it'd your turn Nick.

[The Rick]

This is the first time I've gotten an extended look at Albers this season, and I like what I see, for the most part.

I'm impressed as well. I particularly like his 6-2 GB to FB ratio. He is pitching to contact rather well, despite the one walk.

[Dr. FLK]

Ooh, just got my Adam Jones T-shirt.

Can you get me one?;)

[cindyluvsbrady]

Thank You Melvin!!:)

[tywright]

Damn Nick...you don't see many of those and you don't swing?!

[Dr. FLK]

This team sure is getting good at leaving RISP.

[Dr. FLK]

And the heart of the lineup comes through in the clutch...:rolleyes:

[cindyluvsbrady]

Aubrey was being a bad boy!:p

[waroriole]

This team sure is getting good at leaving RISP.

That's the Oriole Way

[The Rick]

At least we're making a good young pitcher look good.

[FarmSystem]

You'd figure one day an Orioles manager would wise up and realize that Crowley will lead to their downfall and just boot him out of the clubhouse.

[blueberryale77]

Aubrey was being a bad boy!:p

Please, don't say that about Aubrey. It brings up such sickening images of the poor hotel clerk having to go over his bill with him...

Clerk: Ok Mr. Huff, that's an extra $10 for Debbie does Dallas, $10 for Suzie screws San Francisco, $10 for Betty blows Baltimore...

Aubrey: That last one was such a 'horsepoop' porno.

[JohnLockesGhost]

Now, let's get some friggin' runs for Matt.

[The Rick]

Meanwhile, the Blue Jays are making a good young pitcher look good. Nice outing for Albers thus far.

Watch out Brian Burres! :eek:

[eric0668]

Hey Cindy...wassup

Anyway, What were they saying about Aubrey not being able to get around on a heater so they gave him Right-Center.

I thought that Aubrey and Millar were dead red (is that the expression) Heater hitters??




(Speaking of which has anyone noticed that on the roadtrip someone said sometime that we are not hitting the fastball in general as a team. I guess teams change. from the mid nineties til recently, we were always a fastball team and not a curveball or finesse team, right? I guess things change. BoSox are beginning to steal again)

[blueberryale77]

You'd figure one day an Orioles manager would wise up and realize that Crowley will lead to their downfall and just boot him out of the clubhouse.

Crowley's not the one in the batter's box, nor is he the one selecting the talent.

[waroriole]

Trying to listen to the game on MLB Audio, but it won't connect. Glad I paid for it.:rolleyes::mad:

[The Rick]

Crowley's not the one in the batter's box, nor is he the one selecting the talent.

Yup, he's Mr. Free pass. He isn't responsible at all.

[FarmSystem]

He's the one with a history of below average offenses year after year. At the very least it'd make sense to make a change to see if it works, the guy isn't anything special worthy of being protected.

[Moose Milligan]

Adam Jones :)

[The Rick]

Save it for T-Shirt night Adam... my goodness. ;)

[orayole]

Man Jones got lucky there. He needs to do a ton better at taking leads and watching the pitcher.

[blueberryale77]

Yup, he's Mr. Free pass. He isn't responsible at all.

I'm not opposed to replacing Crowley. He's been coaching an unsuccessful offense for a lot of years and maybe someone else could find a way to make lemonade out of the lemons he hasn't been able to help. However, I don't think people should expect instant miracles from a new hitting coach, nor should they put so much of the blame on him for our players' failures. By the time hitters get to the major leagues, they've already pretty well established their batting eye and how patient they are. Only the really coachable ones are helped all that much by the hitting coach. Crowley may be a part of the problem, but he shouldn't be scapegoated for the whole thing just because it's convenient.

[cindyluvsbrady]

Please, don't say that about Aubrey. It brings up such sickening images of the poor hotel clerk having to go over his bill with him...

Clerk: Ok Mr. Huff, that's an extra $10 for Debbie does Dallas, $10 for Suzie screws San Francisco, $10 for Betty blows Baltimore...

Aubrey: That last one was such a 'horsepoop' porno.
LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:D

[The Rick]

I'm not opposed to replacing Crowley. He's been coaching an unsuccessful offense for a lot of years and maybe someone else could find a way to make lemonade out of the lemons he hasn't been able to help. However, I don't think people should expect instant miracles from a new hitting coach, nor should they put so much of the blame on him for our players' failures. By the time hitters get to the major leagues, they've already pretty well established their batting eye and how patient they are. Only the really coachable ones are helped all that much by the hitting coach. Crowley may be a part of the problem, but he shouldn't be scapegoated for the whole thing just because it's convenient.
I'm looking at his whole body of work though. It's not about getting a magician to turn around this year's team. It's about a long term hitting coach that will be effective for us once we have all the young pieces in place. I firmly believe that Crowley is not that guy.

[cindyluvsbrady]

Way to go Adam!!!!:)

[CrimsonTribe]

Anybody having problems w/ mlb.tv?

[waroriole]

Anybody having problems w/ mlb.tv?

Problems with MLB Audio, such a great outfit they run over there.:rolleyes:

[Wadesworld35]

Problems with MLB Audio, such a great outfit they run over there.:rolleyes:

I second your comment and your sarcasm.

[JohnLockesGhost]

Anybody got a pitch count on Albers?

[blueberryale77]

I'm looking at his whole body of work though. It's not about getting a magician to turn around this year's team. It's about a long term hitting coach that will be effective for us once we have all the young pieces in place. I firmly believe that Crowley is not that guy.

OK, fair enough. I was just afraid the game thread was going to turn into another Crow bashing festival.

[waroriole]

Anybody got a pitch count on Albers?

78, BTW nice name

[cindyluvsbrady]

How old is Matt?
He looks such a baby!

[cindyluvsbrady]

Thank you Matt and Luis!:)

[The Rick]

Albers continues to impress. He's not trying to do too much out there. His 10:2 GB:FB ratio indicates that he's been locating his pitches very well tonight low in the zone. Very impressive outing so far by Albers.

[waroriole]

Trembley said 5 innings would be tremendous from Albers, will he go back out for the 6th?

[cindyluvsbrady]

Albers continues to impress. He's not trying to do too much out there. His 10:2 GB:FB ratio indicates that he's been locating his pitches very well tonight low in the zone. Very impressive outing so far by Albers.

I agree
I love the thing you have about Elrod!:(

[OsandBohs11]

I hope they don't take him out. If we're going to start Albers you might as well get as many innings as possible. He only has about 80 pitches. that is however a dangerous number.

[cindyluvsbrady]

My Poor Perfect One!!!:002_ssad:

[The Rick]

I agree
I love the thing you have about Elrod!:(

Yeah, good ole Elrod. I haven't removed it so I don't forget about him. He was such a joy to talk with and the one constant when going to O's games growing up. I still miss him.

[cindyluvsbrady]

Yeah, good ole Elrod. I haven't removed it so I don't forget about him. He was such a joy to talk with and the one constant when going to O's games growing up. I still miss him.

I do too.He was a truly wonderful man!:002_ssad:

[cindyluvsbrady]

Love ya NICK!!!:002_sdrool:

[cindyluvsbrady]

AWESOME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!! Go NICK!!!:002_sdrool:

[The Rick]

Another runner on third. We're getting our chances. Let's see what happens.

[erb8472]

Alright time for a two out hit.

[The Rick]

Cowboy Up Up and Away! Millar with a 2-run slam to give the O's the lead.

[cindyluvsbrady]

Hr Kevin!!!!!!!:)
Thank You Kevin!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[erb8472]

Wave it bye bye.

[Crazysilver03]

What is the latest update?

GameDay is frozen with the first batter of the top of the 5th.

[waroriole]

Millahhhhh!!!

[The Rick]

Don't WALK Markakis to get to Millar!!! :D

[Moose Milligan]

MILLLAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHH!!!

Awesome :)

[El Gordo]

Millllaaaaaaaah!!!!!:D:D

[erb8472]

I love when someone hits a homerun and Joe Angel is doing the play by play. It's always good entertainment.

[The Rick]

What is the latest update?

GameDay is frozen with the first batter of the top of the 5th.

Millar with a 2-run homer gives the O's the 3-1 lead with 2 outs in the bottom of the 5th. Albers is the pitcher of record with Johnson warming up in the pen and expected to take over in the 6th.

[RShack]

Millllaaaaaaaah!!!!!:D:D
Nah, if he was worth a hoot, it would've been a 3 run homer...the bum...

;-)

[eric0668]

LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:D

Agree LOL LOL

[The Rick]

I love when someone hits a homerun and Joe Angel is doing the play by play. It's always good entertainment.

Hell yeah it is.

Was it the hasta la vista pelota?

[El Gordo]

Millar with a 2-run homer gives the O's the 3-1 lead with 2 outs in the bottom of the 5th. Albers is the pitcher of record with Johnson warming up in the pen and expected to take over in the 6th.What's Albert's pitch count?

[blueberryale77]

Woah! Did anybody notice on the replay of Zaun's error that Mr. Scrappy (Eckstein) didn't even move to back up the play at 2B? The throw would have gone right to him if he had taken just a couple of steps toward the bag once Zaun made the throw.

[erb8472]

Hell yeah it is.

Was it the hasta la vista pelota?

No not this time. Just wave it bye bye.

[The Rick]

Nah, if he was worth a hoot, it would've been a 3 run homer...the bum...

;-)

I agree. ;)

Gotta wonder if Markakis put the pressure on McGowan. Sure, there were 2 outs, so one may not think it had any impact but I for one think it may have rattled him a little bit to see Markakis go from 1st to 3rd. I love DT's base stealing approach so far this year. It has been so much fun to watch.

[PaulFolk]

Jim Johnson now pitching.

[erb8472]

What's Albert's pitch count?

Last I heard he was around 65 that was in the middle of last inning.

No way he shouldn't get to pitch the 6th.

[erb8472]

Why they took Albers out is beyond me.

[The Rick]

No not this time. Just wave it bye bye.

Ahh, still a good one. He's classic.

My call on the previous page was "Cowboy up up and away!" I thought that was pretty pimp, but no one quoted me. :cool:

[waroriole]

Jim Johnson now pitching.

Interesting, I guess they want to build Albers' confidence and arm before relying on him too much

[blueberryale77]

What is the latest update?

GameDay is frozen with the first batter of the top of the 5th.

Sometime very soon MLB is going to stop raking in money hand over foot with their website. It is truly brutal this year in all aspects. I guess they just got cocky about how much money they were making and forgot to keep upgrading their capacity.

[waroriole]

Last I heard he was around 65 that was in the middle of last inning.

No way he shouldn't get to pitch the 6th.

Actually he was in the mid 80's.

[The Rick]

Why they took Albers out is beyond me.

Probably having come out of the pen so far this year up to this point they just want to be careful with his pitch count. He hasn't been throwing a lot of pitches since I believe mid-spring training.

[erb8472]

We've been asking for one of our starters to go deep into a game and give the bullpen a rest.

Well Albers was doing just that, and instead of letting him work they pull him.

I guess they didn't want him to do to good because then they'd have to consider making him a starter.

[RShack]

We've been asking for one of our starters to go deep into a game and give the bullpen a rest.

Well Albers was doing just that, and instead of letting him work they pull him.

I guess they didn't want him to do to good because then they'd have to consider making him a starter.
Nah, DT said he doesn't make arbitrary pitch-count decisions, he goes by whether they seem tired to him...
Plus, isn't 5 what they were hoping for?

[waroriole]

We've been asking for one of our starters to go deep into a game and give the bullpen a rest.

Well Albers was doing just that, and instead of letting him work they pull him.

I guess they didn't want him to do to good because then they'd have to consider making him a starter.

OR they don't want to ruin his confidence after a nice start. Let him build off this, it's his first game and he pitched 5 innings with only 1 run.

[blueberryale77]

Oh, Luis! :002_ssad:

That was a rotten throw, but 90% of the time Millar scoops that one. (I'm not blaming Millar, just saying that's an error he usually saves the infielder from with his scooping ability).

[Crazysilver03]

We've been asking for one of our starters to go deep into a game and give the bullpen a rest.

Well Albers was doing just that, and instead of letting him work they pull him.

I guess they didn't want him to do to good because then they'd have to consider making him a starter.

Albers is part of our bullpen. 5 innings on 83 pitches is good enough for Albers. Dont forget that Johnson is usually a starter so he should go for 2-3 innings.

[The Rick]

Nah, DT said he doesn't make arbitrary pitch-count decisions, he goes by whether they seem tired to him...
Plus, isn't 5 what they were hoping for?

For SP's they probably don't, however Albers is making a "spot-start". He did say he'd be more than pleased with 5 innings. That's what he got. He could have gotten more probably but I can't blame him for wanting to be a little careful due to Albers acclimation with the bullpen this year up to this point.

Maybe if he gets a next start they'll let him go a little further. ;)

Johnson looked much improved (I know it's only 1 inning.) Gotta love the ground balls tonight ladies & gents, this is fun to watch.

[RShack]

Oh, Luis! :002_ssad:

That was a rotten throw, but 90% of the time Millar scoops that one. (I'm not blaming Millar, just saying that's an error he usually saves the infielder from with his scooping ability).
Yeah, Millar should've had it... the bum ;-)
DP-ball saves LH from costing anything...

[Crazysilver03]

Johnson only threw 9 pitches so I expect to see him in the 7th as well.

[erb8472]

Albers is part of our bullpen. 5 innings on 83 pitches is good enough for Albers. Dont forget that Johnson is usually a starter so he should go for 2-3 innings.

I know he's a part of our bullpen, but that doesn't mean I think he should be. This guy needs to be in the rotation sooner than later.

[backwardsk]

Three double plays! Helping out the pitcher. Good work by Albers tonight.

[PaulFolk]

Johnson only threw 9 pitches so I expect to see him in the 7th as well.
That looks to be the plan. Nobody is warming up in the O's bullpen.

[waroriole]

Geez, now ESPN is froze, along w/ MLB Audio. I'm on the 3rd string, FOX:eek:

[RShack]

Geez, now ESPN is froze, along w/ MLB Audio. I'm on the 3rd string, FOX:eek:
Quit breaking stuff...

[Crazysilver03]

Quick double play for the Jays.

[The Rick]

I know he's a part of our bullpen, but that doesn't mean I think he should be. This guy needs to be in the rotation sooner than later.

Already being discussed here (http://forum.orioleshangout.com/forums/showthread.php?t=61943).

But since you brought it up here, I agree. ;)

[Moose Milligan]

Adam Jones, three hit night :)

[The Rick]

Jones follows up his Golden Sombrero with a 3-hit night. What is he thinking? His T-Shirt night is TOMORROW!

[PaulFolk]

There have been five double plays in this game already. Three turned by the O's, two by the Jays.

[waroriole]

Already being discussed here (http://forum.orioleshangout.com/forums/showthread.php?t=61943).

But since you brought it up here, I agree. ;)

Have a little patience, he didn't earn the spot in the spring. However, now that he is starting to pitch like Guthrie last year he probably will be in the rotation for good soon.

[erb8472]

Adam Jones, three hit night :)

Good job by Adam getting that 4 strikeout game out of people's minds. :D

[The Rick]

Three double plays! Helping out the pitcher. Good work by Albers tonight.

Great job by the O's pitching to contact. They have pitched low in the zone tonight and located their pitches nicely. A 14-3 GB-FB ratio is no coincidence.

[waroriole]

Good job by Adam getting that 4 strikeout game out of people's minds. :D

What 4 strikeout game?:D

[The Rick]

I think Jones was safe, but a good through by Zaun and very close play all the way around.

Have I mentioned that I love DT's base stealing approach yet? Well I do!

[erb8472]

Great job by the O's pitching to contact. They have pitched low in the zone tonight and located their pitches nicely. A 14-3 GB-FB ratio is no coincidence.

Our pitchers have got them to hit 14 groundballs, and somehow Luis Hernandez has fielded 28 ground balls already in this game. :D

[Wadesworld35]

Boo to having the inexperienced Adam Jones try to steal and having Luis Hernandez lead off the 7th.

[erb8472]

I think Jones was safe, but a good through by Zaun and very close play all the way around.

Have I mentioned that I love DT's base stealing approach yet? Well I do!

With no big power threat we need to be able to steal bases.

[RShack]

According to my TIVO, even with the pitch-out, they only got him by about 1-inch... and only then because he had his leg hooked way back...

[RShack]

Based on nothing, I think Buck is way too proud of his hair....

[waroriole]

Boo to having the inexperienced Adam Jones try to steal and having Luis Hernandez lead off the 7th.

Agreed, there's a time and place for SB's, and that wasn't it.

[JohnLockesGhost]

No not this time. Just wave it bye bye.

He only uses the "Hasta la vista..." call for Spanish speaking players.
Used it the other night for Ramon's HR.

[PaulFolk]

The stadium radar gun is working again. They've got Johnson's fastball clocked at 91.

[The Rick]

Based on nothing, I think Buck is way too proud of his hair....

You say things based on nothing? Sweet, that means I can every now and then.

A free "my argument was based on nothing" card in the pocket for me so I don't have to eat crow again in the future.

[Wadesworld35]

Based on nothing, I think Buck is way too proud of his hair....

Kind of like how Jim Palmer is way too proud of... Jim Palmer

[erb8472]

He only uses the "Hasta la vista..." call for Spanish speaking players.
Used it the other night for Ramon's HR.

Yeah that was a classic. I loved watching the replay on the Orioles site and seeing how Ramon pimped it after he hit it.

[blueberryale77]

Boo to having the inexperienced Adam Jones try to steal and having Luis Hernandez lead off the 7th.

Jones has the speed, he has to practice his stealing sometime to get better at it and Zaun hasn't exactly been throwing well so it seemed like a pretty good chance he'd make it. Besides, Hernandez is very unlikely to get an XBH to drive him home.

[RShack]

Kind of like how Jim Palmer is way too proud of... Jim Palmer
The difference is that Palmer has good reason to be... Buck, not so much...

[The Rick]

Agreed, there's a time and place for SB's, and that wasn't it.

Oh come on, people praise when we steal a base, and look to complain when we get thrown out.

I posted this in yesterday's game thread, and think it's prudent here too.


It's always frustrating when a base stealer gets caught stealing, but it's a no risk no reward type of situation with base running. I have enjoyed DT's approach to base stealing so far, which has led to the O's stealing 9 bases (including BRob's earlier today) in the young season. That's in the upper 1/3rd of the league and is 4 behind the league leading team, the Blue Jays.

The O's have gotten caught stealing 4 times (including Mora today), the Blue Jays 5. This is the just how the game works. I prefer taking the risks in order to advance our base runners.

[erb8472]

The stadium radar gun is working again. They've got Johnson's fastball clocked at 91.

Obviously because of the post below. :D


Quit breaking stuff...

[erb8472]

The difference is that Palmer has good reason to... Buck, not so much...

I don't know if I agree. Buck has a good head of hair.

[blueberryale77]

Ooh! ooh! ooh! Jay Payton at the Chick-Fil-A in Gambrills, MD on Saturday! Who wants to come with me? :D

[Wadesworld35]

Jones has the speed, he has to practice his stealing sometime to get better at it and Zaun hasn't exactly been throwing well so it seemed like a pretty good chance he'd make it. Besides, Hernandez is very unlikely to get an XBH to drive him home.

I agree with your points but I just don`t think that outweighs the risk of having Luis Hernandez have to lead off the seventh. I think the O`s have a better chance to score if its B-rob leading off, thats all.

[waroriole]

Oh come on, people praise when we steal a base, and look to complain when we get thrown out.

I posted this in yesterday's game thread, and think it's prudent here too.

I love when the O's are aggresive on the bases, but with Luis hitting with 2 outs I don't want to see it b/c that means he'll have to lead off the next inning instead of BRob.

[erb8472]

Ooh! ooh! ooh! Jay Payton at the Chick-Fil-A in Gambrills, MD on Saturday! Who wants to come with me? :D

If I had my way he'd be working there for the rest of the season. :D

[PaulFolk]

Tonight's attendance: 11,510.

[erb8472]

I love when the O's are aggresive on the bases, but with Luis hitting with 2 outs I don't want to see it b/c that means he'll have to lead off the next inning instead of BRob.

Yeah, but like Blueberry said the only way Jones scores is if he gets to second and Luis decides he'd like to get his one hit for the week.

[RShack]

I don't know if I agree. Buck has a good head of hair.
Palmer's in the HOF, has 3 Cy's, 3 rings, and 8 20-game seasons.

Buck's hair has... what exactly?

[Wadesworld35]

Oh come on, people praise when we steal a base, and look to complain when we get thrown out.

I posted this in yesterday's game thread, and think it's prudent here too.

Whether or not he successfully stole the base is irrelevant to whether or not it was a good decision to try; and in this case I think it was a bad idea, thats all.

[erb8472]

Tonight's attendance: 11,510.

Does it look like a lot less in the crowd, or did most of the paid attendance show up?

[The Rick]

I love when the O's are aggresive on the bases, but with Luis hitting with 2 outs I don't want to see it b/c that means he'll have to lead off the next inning instead of BRob.

Again, no risk no reward. I'd rather take my chance with Jones in scoring position per the chance Luis gets a base hit. After all, he's batting .500 with RISP this year. ;)

Impressive little appearance by Johnson today.

[blueberryale77]

If I had my way he'd be working there for the rest of the season. :D

If I had my way he'd be working for the Boston Red Sox --- as Terry Francona's personal assistant. :p

[The Rick]

Does it look like a lot less in the crowd, or did most of the paid attendance show up?

Ouch, 11,510 and the game thread is only to 12 pages. Roy is going to be pissed! :eek:

[waroriole]

Yeah, but like Blueberry said the only way Jones scores is if he gets to second and Luis decides he'd like to get his one hit for the week.

Well that sounds like long odds. Might as well just hope he gets that hit (or walk) and let BRob drive Jones in.

[erb8472]

Palmer's in the HOF, has 3 Cy's, 3 rings, and 8 20-game seasons.

Buck's hair has... what exactly?

Well it would take a gail force wind to move one single hair. He's got a ton of it for his age.

Maybe I'm over analyzing Buck's hair because I'm already losing mine at 23.

[erb8472]

On a side note I think I'm going to go to the Padres vs Rockies game Thursday night. Peavy is going to be on the mound. Should be a pretty good game to check out.

[The Rick]

Whether or not he successfully stole the base is irrelevant to whether or not it was a good decision to try; and in this case I think it was a bad idea, thats all.

I see what you're saying, but respectfully disagree. I don't think you make a base stealing decision based on who you want to lead off the next inning. If anything it gives Luis a higher chance to succeed given that with a runner on second the pitcher may be a little more ruffled than with him on 1st. It didn't work out this time, but I prefer this way of thinking to the conservative base running mindset we've been accustomed to the past several years.

[waroriole]

Johnson in the 8th or do we match up?

[erb8472]

Well that sounds like long odds. Might as well just hope he gets that hit (or walk) and let BRob drive Jones in.

I just don't see the problem with Jones trying to advance himself into scoring position with the number 9 hitter up and two outs.

[blueberryale77]

Well it would take a gail force wind to move one single hair. He's got a ton of it for his age.

Maybe I'm over analyzing Buck's hair because I'm already losing mine at 23.

If you have a nicely paying job in the media when you're his age, I'm sure you'll have as much hair as you want. :)

[RShack]

I agree with your points but I just don`t think that outweighs the risk of having Luis Hernandez have to lead off the seventh. I think the O`s have a better chance to score if its B-rob leading off, thats all.
So far, LH has the 4th-best OBP on the team, behind BRob, Nick and Luke... he's been on base more than 1 time out of 3...

Better than Huff, Mora, Ramon, AJ, Payton and.... Millar, the bum ;-)

[erb8472]

I see what you're saying, but respectfully disagree. I don't think you make a base stealing decision based on who you want to lead off the next inning. If anything it gives Luis a higher chance to succeed given that with a runner on second the pitcher may be a little more ruffled than with him on 1st. It didn't work out this time, but I prefer this way of thinking to the conservative base running mindset we've been accustomed to the past several years.

At least if he would have been safe we could have complained about Luis Hernandez leaving a runner in scoring position. :D

[Crazysilver03]

Well Luis walks on 4 pitches to start off the 8th.

[waroriole]

I just don't see the problem with Jones trying to advance himself into scoring position with the number 9 hitter up and two outs.

Because you don't want the 9th hitter leading off. But this time I guess it worked out. Good eye Luis.

[erb8472]

If you have a nicely paying job in the media when you're his age, I'm sure you'll have as much hair as you want. :)

Can't argue that. :D

[Wadesworld35]

Haha Brian Tallet... bad decision. He must have Luis Hernandez confused with somebody.

[The Rick]

At least if he would have been safe we could have complained about Luis Hernandez leaving a runner in scoring position. :D

Yeah, but Roberts would have been leading off in the 7th so it wouldn't have mattered.

Oh wait! :D

[Spoonless]

Well it would take a gail force wind to move one single hair. He's got a ton of it for his age.

Maybe I'm over analyzing Buck's hair because I'm already losing mine at 23.

My hair is receding in the front, and it's starting to move towards the middle, like the two sides are going to connect, giving me one of those frontal islands. On top of that, it's thinning in the back. Whenever my brother, my cousin, and I get together, we always compare our baldness progression. I'm the youngest of us at 23, and mine is by far the worst. :(

[blueberryale77]

Man, that was terrible having Luis lead off the inning. ;)

[erb8472]

Let's tack on a couple more. Put me down for a Markakis home run right now.

[Diehard_O's_Fan]

What is the score? Is it still 3-1?

[cindyluvsbrady]

I love My Perfect One!!!!:SuN030:

[erb8472]

My hair is receding in the front, and it's starting to move towards the middle, like the two sides are going to connect, giving me one of those frontal islands. On top of that, it's thinning in the back. Whenever my brother, my cousin, and I get together, we always compare our baldness progression. I'm the youngest of us at 23, and mine is by far the worst. :(

I hear ya. I'm on the fast track to the horseshoe.

[The Rick]

DO NOT walk Markakis to get to Millar!!!

[erb8472]

As I noted earlier put me down for a Markakis homer here.

[Spoonless]

I really like the big play replay thing on Gameday. Makes me feel better about not being able to watch the games.

[The Rick]

What is the score? Is it still 3-1?

Yes indeed. Luis on 3rd, Roberts on 2nd after a nice sac bunt by Mora with one out. Markakis up.

[erb8472]

As I noted earlier put me down for a Markakis homer here.

D'Oh!.....

[orayole]

NO! My perfect one LH! He messed that up. :(

[Wadesworld35]

Hey Orioles, stop doing things like that.

[tywright]

good lord

Nick you should be pissed...since you didn't hit it in the AIR!

[tywright]

Unbelievable

[The Rick]

An unfortunate turn of events to squander an opportunity to tack on more there for the O's. That chopper by Markakis was unfortunate. Wish he could have gotten that one in the air for a sac at the least.

[waroriole]

Unbelievable

You must not watch the O's much.:D

[erb8472]

I got a feeling we will be looking back on those runners we just LOB.

[blueberryale77]

Ouch, Luis out by a mile. You can't be indecisive there... about running or about whether to slide around or take the catcher out.

[Baltimorebull]

I have alread had enough of LH ring on Cintron.

[Wadesworld35]

The O`s have been wasting a lot of good scoring opportunities lately, lets hope this one doesn`t come back and bite us in the arse.

[Spoonless]

Ouch, Luis out by a mile. You can't be indecisive there... about running or about whether to slide around or take the catcher out.

Could LH take a catcher out? It seems like it'd be as effective as running into a brick wall.

[erb8472]

Ouch, Luis out by a mile. You can't be indecisive there... about running or about whether to slide around or take the catcher out.

That thought should never enter Luis Hernadez's mind.

[The Rick]

Love the decision to bring Johnson back for the 8th. He has looked very solid. Hopefully he bridges nicely to Sherrill for the close.

[erb8472]

Anyone else not excited with the idea of Walker coming in to face Stairs?

[Wadesworld35]

Ouch, Luis out by a mile. You can't be indecisive there... about running or about whether to slide around or take the catcher out.

Like to dinner or something?

[Why Not?]

I have alread had enough of LH ring on Cintron.

Cintron has not played at Norfolk yet, dunno why. Scott Moore is starting his second game at SS there, maybe he's the replacement.

[blueberryale77]

I have alread had enough of LH ring on Cintron.

Cintron has no range, no arm anymore, didn't hit any more than Luis last year, and has yet to get into game action in Norfolk (unless he did in the past couple days, I haven't followed too closely). I'd rather see Scott Moore at SS... and I REALLY don't want to see Scott Moore at SS. Hernandez has been halfway decent. That's about as much as we're going to get out of any shortstop this year.

[The Rick]

Good job by Johnson tonight. Glad the fans are recognizing a job well done.

[erb8472]

Stairs against the struggling Walker does not make me feel good right now.

[erb8472]

Good job by Johnson tonight. Glad the fans are recognizing a job well done.

You mean we have fans at the game? :D

[Wadesworld35]

Someone tell Walker to stick to the fastball and curveball and not to throw that game tying late inning morale crushing homerun pitch he`s been working on.

[cindyluvsbrady]

Go Jamie!!!!:)

[blueberryale77]

Could LH take a catcher out? It seems like it'd be as effective as running into a brick wall.

Zaun's 37 years old (happy birthday to him today by the way) and not too big of a guy. I'd give Luis some chance if he came in hard enough. The way he came it he just completely gave himself up and didn't make any effort to evade the tag.

[backwardsk]

Trembley going with the matchups tonight. Walker does his job.

[JTrea81]

Walker's in LOOGY mode now I guess...

I don't like Bradford here. No grounders with eyes please...

[cindyluvsbrady]

AWWWWWWWWWW!
Look at My Perfect One smiling:)
I love him!!!

[osfansince85]

Is C. Bradford coming in now to face Hill?

[backwardsk]

In other scores, the Rays have scored 4 in the seventh to cut the lead to 7-6 against the Yankees.

[Wadesworld35]

Is C. Bradford coming in now to face Hill?

Yup, here comes the `stache to take out the trash.

[cindyluvsbrady]

Hers comes Chad!
Time to bowl!!:D

[blueberryale77]

AWWWWWWWWWW!
Look at My Perfect One smiling:)
I love him!!!

He is quite adorable, but what I found even more entertaining was how much fun Trembley was having with all his infielders out on the mound. It's good to see them all smiling, even the ones who aren't so good looking. :)

[Wadesworld35]

In other scores, the Rays have scored 4 in the seventh to cut the lead to 7-6 against the Yankees.

Its that d*mn Pena, he`s so hot right now

[blueberryale77]

Its that d*mn Pena, he`s so hot right now

Would you prefer him to just be hot against us and not hurt the MFYs? :eek: ;)

[RShack]

During the pitcher-change, my TV blew out 200 pixels from the glare off Buck's hair...

[backwardsk]

Mora has made several good plays tonight.

Three pitchers, three outs. Way to go Johnson, Walker, and Bradford.

Let's get a guy on base so Jones can avenge his 4k game with a 4 hit game.

[cindyluvsbrady]

He is quite adorable, but what I found even more entertaining was how much fun Trembley was having with all his infielders out on the mound. It's good to see them all smiling, even the ones who aren't so good looking. :)

I dont love Brian because of his looks....but because of his heart:)
And you are right It was nice seeing all of them happy!!
GO Os!!!:)

[VivianDarkbloom]

In other scores, the Rays have scored 4 in the seventh to cut the lead to 7-6 against the Yankees.

Longoria just tied it with his first career HR

[backwardsk]

Longoria just tied it with his first career HR

...And his first start on my fantasy team!

[Wadesworld35]

Would you prefer him to just be hot against us and not hurt the MFYs? :eek: ;)

Haha oh not at all I was trying out the rare baseball-forum Zoolander reference.

[RShack]

He is quite adorable, but what I found even more entertaining was how much fun Trembley was having with all his infielders out on the mound. It's good to see them all smiling, even the ones who aren't so good looking. :)
Yeah, but what's Millar smiling about... the bum.

(Ever since he knocked in a run early with a crappy non-XB-hit, I decided I'm gonna keep calling him a bum until he does something super-human... )

[PaulFolk]

Adam Jones's three hits tonight ties his career high.

[cindyluvsbrady]

WHere is Weams?
We need the Luke picture

[cindyluvsbrady]

Adam Jones's three hits tonight ties his career high.

COOL:)
Thank You Paul...our resident genuis!!:)

[cindyluvsbrady]

Go Luke!!!!:)

[waroriole]

Its that d*mn Pena, he`s so hot right now

Zoolander, agghh I was thinking forever about where that was from.

[blueberryale77]

Yeah, but what's Millar smiling about... the bum.

(Ever since he knocked in a run early with a crappy non-XB-hit, I decided I'm gonna keep calling him a bum until he does something super-human... )

So you're hoping that calling Millar a bum works like booing Huff (which BTW people need to get back to doing because he's really cooled off since they stopped)? :cool:

[Wadesworld35]

Great Scott!