4/17/08 Pale Hose at Orioles

[Why Not?]

Chicago White Sox at Baltimore
Starting Lineups
Chicago White Sox HR, RBI, Avg. ----Baltimore HR, RBI, Avg.
Nick Swisher CF 2, 4, .267 -----------Brian Roberts 2B 1, 5, .286
Orlando Cabrera SS 1, 4, .245 ---------Melvin Mora 3B 3, 6, .236
Jim Thome DH 3, 10, .184 ---------Nick Markakis RF 2, 5, .320
Paul Konerko 1B 2, 11, .196 ----------Kevin Millar 1B 2, 7, .232
Jermaine Dye RF 2, 5, .346 ---------Luke Scott LF 1, 6, .383
A.J. Pierzynski C 2, 9, .405 ---------Aubrey Huff DH 2, 12, .245
Carlos Quentin LF 2, 13, .214 -------Adam Jones CF 1, 3, .261
Joe Crede 3B 4, 16, .288 -----------Guillermo Quiroz C 0, 0, .222
Juan Uribe 2B 1, 4, .156 -----------Luis Hernandez SS 0, 3, .222
W, L, ERA -------------------------W, L, ERA
Gavin Floyd P 2, 0, 2.02------------ Jeremy Guthrie P 0, 1, 4.34

[Peace21]

Hello everyone, heres to hoping we can get into the Win column tonight.

[blueberryale77]

Alright! Who's ready to see local boy Gavin Floyd pitch a no-hitter at Camden Yards! :D

On the plus side, they're doing "Covering the Bases" with BRob tonight. :D (That smile's for real.)

[BaltBird 24]

Quick question. Is there a single pitcher in our rotation who is likely to still be in our rotation in three years?

[Peace21]

Alright! Who's ready to see local boy Gavin Floyd pitch a no-hitter at Camden Yards! :D

On the plus side, they're doing "Covering the Bases" with BRob tonight. :D (That smile's for real.)

Geez, im stil trying to get over just hearing that the O's have the worst 1st inning ERA.:)

[blueberryale77]

Quick question. Is there a single pitcher in our rotation who is likely to still be in our rotation in three years?

Somehow I feel like Daniel CaBBrera will ALWAYS be in our rotation, no matter how long it takes him to "develop."

[Zanetheo'sfan]

Geez, im stil trying to get over just hearing that the O's have the worst 1st inning ERA.:)

Luckily there's only one first inning a game...and we got out of it. :D

[MurphDogg]

Does it bother anybody else that Gary Thorne always seems surprised that the runners are going with the count 3-2 and 2 outs?

[MurphDogg]

Capitals are down 1-0, 42 seconds into the game.

[BaltBird 24]

Somehow I feel like Daniel CaBBrera will ALWAYS be in our rotation, no matter how long it takes him to "develop."

I'd say of all the pitchers we currently have, he's most likely to be here. Only because he has a pretty decent ability to stay healthy and log some innings, which wouldn't be bad if he were just our worst starter.

[blueberryale77]

Nice delayed strike call on the pitch around his ankles. :rolleyes:

[Peace21]

Does it bother anybody else that Gary Thorne always seems surprised that the runners are going with the count 3-2 and 2 outs?

I think Gary Thorne should be up in Philly tonight covering the Caps and Flyers game. I think thats where e rather be.

[Peace21]

1-1 now..Go Caps

[BaltBird 24]

Mora with a smashing 90-foot line drive snagged by Konerko.

[blueberryale77]

Nice delayed strike call on the pitch around his ankles. :rolleyes:

... and the bad call for strike one forces him to swing at the same pitch out of the zone for strike 3.

[Peace21]

Great offense O's

[mdterps4life25]

Where was that first pitch on Quentin? Looked right over the inside half. NVM Guts just hit him

[Moose Milligan]

Quick question. Is there a single pitcher in our rotation who is likely to still be in our rotation in three years?

Thats a really good question.

I'd venture a guess to say Loewen. Maybe Guthrie.

[blueberryale77]

Thats a really good question.

I'd venture a guess to say Loewen. Maybe Guthrie.

Does Albers count as being "in the rotation" after one start that should have earned him the 5th spot? I'm starting to get an inkling that he could stick as our 4th or 5th starter for awhile.

[BaltBird 24]

Is it me, or does it seem we've given up our fair share of those little sneaky singles with runners in scoring position so far this year?

[Zanetheo'sfan]

Perfect one aint so perfect.

[BaltBird 24]

Albers said last night during the telecast that he expects to return to the bullpen. You and I know that having these young guys watch Steve Trachsel pitch is much more valuable than having them actually go out and log the innings themselves.

[mdterps4life25]

Wow uncharacteristic play by B-Rob....that ball ate him up.

[mdterps4life25]

Albers said last night during the telecast that he expects to return to the bullpen. You and I know that having these young guys watch Steve Trachsel pitch is much more valuable than having them actually go out and log the innings themselves.

I think Albers is just waiting for Trachsels "veteranosity" to rub off on him...

[SrMeowMeow]

Somehow I feel like Daniel CaBBrera will ALWAYS be in our rotation, no matter how long it takes him to "develop."

I JUST figured out the 'CaBBrera' joke. It's been weeks since I first saw it. I am a moron.

[blueberryale77]

Wow uncharacteristic play by B-Rob....that ball ate him up.

Ouch! I did not see that one coming. :002_smad:

[BaltBird 24]

I think Albers is just waiting for Trachsels "veteranosity" to rub off on him...

The grit that it takes to win those 15 inning marathon games, or the veteranosity that makes your fastball 84 MPH with no command?

[MurphDogg]

Ouch! I did not see that one coming. :002_smad:

Uh, we aren't allowed to comment when he makes a poor play? He didn't make reference to his boyinsh good looks at all...

[blueberryale77]

Uh, we aren't allowed to comment when he makes a poor play? He didn't make reference to his boyinsh good looks at all...

I was talking about the error.

[MurphDogg]

I was talking about the error.

Oh, my apologies... I misinterpreted the rolled eyes, Brian was just trying to move too quickly, I'm not sure they could have turned two there anyway as he was pretty far from second base.

[mdterps4life25]

I dont mean to make a kneejerk comment or anything...but i am sick of this lineup. What could it hurt to try jones in the 2 hole for one game? Or Millar 5th, 6th, or dare I say...7th?

[BaltBird 24]

Hate to say it, but the bats look absolutely dead again tonight. Atleast we have Brandon Fahey and Jay Payton rested and ready on the bench.

[Fan4Life]

Our pitchers nibble nibble nibble and our hitters hack hack hack.... this is amazing to see offensively after how patient they were the first 10 days... even BRob has lost his way of late and it's reflected in a 2-12 outcome

[blueberryale77]

Oh, my apologies... I misinterpreted the rolled eyes, Brian was just trying to move too quickly, I'm not sure they could have turned two there anyway as he was pretty far from second base.

Here's the explanation. The emoticon was supposed to be "mad" not rolled eyes, but anyway...

http://forum.orioleshangout.com/forums/showpost.php?p=1278949&postcount=93

[SrMeowMeow]

Guthrie, stat-wise, looks pretty bad so far.

[MurphDogg]

Caps take the lead.

[osfan83]

Nice play by Millar. Now if he could only hit the ball tonight.

[BaltBird 24]

Guthrie, stat-wise, looks pretty bad so far.

He had that one bad start on OD followed by two good starts. He just isn't missing bats the way he was when he was looking really good last year.

[Why Not?]

He had that one bad start on OD followed by two good starts. He just isn't missing bats the way he was when he was looking really good last year.

Methinks that hot streak last year was just that.

[Peace21]

Caps take the lead.

That was a huge goal. They did great killing off those power plays.

[BaltBird 24]

Methinks that hot streak last year was just that.

Maybe so, but for a team that is so adamant about holding onto Steve Trachsel, Guthrie will probably be here for a long time regardless.

[SrMeowMeow]

This team is so bad :(

I'm honestly tempted to want to just trade Millar and a pitcher for a good, 30ish middle of the order hitter just to make this more watchable.

[Fan4Life]

Place your bets... when do we get our first hit of this guy?

[PurpleHaze]

I am betting no-hitter.

(Here's hoping that just jinxed Floyd) :eek:

[BaltBird 24]

This team is so bad :(

I'm honestly tempted to want to just trade Millar and a pitcher for a good, 30ish middle of the order hitter just to make this more watchable.

I couldn't care less how bad they were if we weren't treated to a nice dish of Millar, Huff, Payton, Hernandez, Mora, etc. on a nightly basis. I understand that you can't rebuild over night, but the fact that there's almost no one besides Wieters who we can really expect to be here to help within the next couple of seasons makes watching this bunch a whole lot more bleak.

[Peace21]

This team is so bad :(

I'm honestly tempted to want to just trade Millar and a pitcher for a good, 30ish middle of the order hitter just to make this more watchable.

Some guy named Bonds is available.:D

[SrMeowMeow]

I couldn't care less how bad they were if we weren't treated to a nice dish of Millar, Huff, Payton, Hernandez, Mora, etc. on a nightly basis. I understand that you can't rebuild over night, but the fact that there's almost no one besides Wieters who we can really expect to be here to help within the next couple of seasons makes watching this bunch a whole lot more bleak.

I argue constantly for patience and realism in the threads about cutting all the veterans, but GOD would I like to see a fresh team out there.

[Moose Milligan]

This team is so bad :(

I'm honestly tempted to want to just trade Millar and a pitcher for a good, 30ish middle of the order hitter just to make this more watchable.

C'mon man, why surprised? You knew what you were getting this year.

[SrMeowMeow]

Some guy named Bonds is available.:D

If we can get rid of either Huff or Millar (probably Huff if he stays lukewarm) I would be all for getting Bonds. He's not going to jail this year :rolleyes:

[Peace21]

Is it the age or the philosophy thats cooled the bats?

[Why Not?]

Maybe so, but for a team that is so adamant about holding onto Steve Trachsel, Guthrie will probably be here for a long time regardless.

Yeah, and I'm cool with that. I think he'll settle in as a servicable starter, but not a difference-maker.

[SrMeowMeow]

C'mon man, why surprised? You knew what you were getting this year.

Lol, when did I say anything about surprised ;)

[fdfcosta]

This inning we'll hit him. Too many fastballs and flyouts.

[The Rick]

I'm at the game tonight hanging out with Dr Lev having a great time.

Observations: Our offense is making decent contact, but just isn't coming through. Hopefully the second time through the lineup will bring more solid contact.

How does FLoyd look on TV?

P.S. Scott is great with the fans out in LF.

[osfan83]

I think you can rebuild in less than 3 years. No reason one of Millar, Huff, and Mora couldn't have been moved in the off season.

[PaulFolk]

I'm at the game tonight hanging out with Dr Lev having a great time.

Observations: Our offense is making decent contact, but just isn't coming through. Hopefully the second time through the lineup will bring more solid contact.

How does FLoyd look on TV?

P.S. Scott is great with the fans out in LF.
Where are you guys sitting (I presume LF)?

[blueberryale77]

Apparently nobody at MASN realizes they don't have the mic on the phone. :rolleyes:

[SrMeowMeow]

I'm at the game tonight hanging out with Dr Lev having a great time.

Observations: Our offense is making decent contact, but just isn't coming through. Hopefully the second time through the lineup will bring more solid contact.

How does FLoyd look on TV?

P.S. Scott is great with the fans out in LF.

Get him to react to some kind of Star Wars reference and I will rep you! :D

[BaltBird 24]

Twelve up, twelve down.

[SrMeowMeow]

The O's go marching three by three, hurrah, hurrah.

[PurpleHaze]

I got a bad feeling about this one. Floyd is the kind of guy...

I won't say anything else. Millah is going to take him deep next inning. ;)

[Moose Milligan]

Lol, when did I say anything about surprised ;)

True, true....you were just acting a bit surprised :)

[SrMeowMeow]

First k for Guthrie. 71 pitches through 4 1/3 is actually not bad - at this rate he could go six or seven without a ton of trouble.

[The Rick]

Where are you guys sitting (I presume LF)?

Your assumption is correct sir, section 80 row CC seats 1-3.

[Moose Milligan]

So lemme get this straight....a young rookie pitcher is shutting us down? NO WAY!!!!

[Peace21]

Nice play LH

[Moose Milligan]

I'm at the game tonight hanging out with Dr Lev having a great time.

Observations: Our offense is making decent contact, but just isn't coming through. Hopefully the second time through the lineup will bring more solid contact.

How does FLoyd look on TV?

P.S. Scott is great with the fans out in LF.


Hey, tell Dr Lev I said whats up!

[SrMeowMeow]

Hey guys don't worry, here comes the meat of our order!

[Zanetheo'sfan]

Dang. I wanted to see how many seasons in a row we could get no-hit by rookie pitchers.:D

[wickedwitch]

I got a bad feeling about this one. Floyd is the kind of guy...

I won't say anything else. Millah is going to take him deep next inning. ;)

Close enough.

[SrMeowMeow]

Dang. I wanted to see how many seasons in a row we could get no-hit by rookie pitchers.:D

The season's still young, don't give up hope:cool:

[PurpleHaze]

I meant deep to shortstop. My 2-year-old hit the enter key. :D

[BaltBird 24]

Is it just me, or does anyone else find it kind of odd that the O's are trying to pump up so much interest in a player we've had since 2001? Do we really need to hear from Brian Roberts babysitter?

[Moose Milligan]

Is it just me, or does anyone else find it kind of odd that the O's are trying to pump up so much interest in a player we've had since 2001? Do we really need to hear from Brian Roberts babysitter?

Yeah, I'm SO over Brian Roberts...

[BaltBird 24]

Get ejected, Trembley!

[SrMeowMeow]

Oh my LORD

MY SWEET LORD

*dies*

[VivianDarkbloom]

Never run Millar. Ever. Yeah you need to be creative and aggressive but that's just stupid.

[blueberryale77]

Is it just me, or does anyone else find it kind of odd that the O's are trying to pump up so much interest in a player we've had since 2001? Do we really need to hear from Brian Roberts babysitter?

What do you have against BJ Surhoff?

[BaltBird 24]

Does Millar think he's the American Torpedo Boat?

[Wadesworld35]

Really Orioles? Really?

[BaltBird 24]

What do you have against BJ Surhoff?

He's grumpy and doesn't sign enough autographs.

[SrMeowMeow]

And Scott WALKS.

...

WHY WOULD YOU EVER RUN MILLAR!

[blueberryale77]

He's grumpy and doesn't sign enough autographs.

Wait... did they actually show BJ Surhoff? MLB.tv didn't come back from the commercial break on time.

[Camden_yardbird]

wow, Scott really sounds like a professional hitter. I hope hes hear for a long time, and when he is done being a player I hope he stay/ comes back here as a coach. I would love to be the fly on the wall when he and Surhoff talk shop.

[BaltBird 24]

Wait... did they actually show BJ Surhoff? MLB.tv didn't come back from the commercial break on time.

Nah, they were talking via telephone to his trainer from when he played at South Carolina.

[BaltBird 24]

Aubrey Huff has had an absolutely horrible week at the plate. How can a player go from being scorching hot to not being able to hit a thing in a matter of a game or two?

[blueberryale77]

Nah, they were talking via telephone to his trainer from when he played at South Carolina.

You mean Ray Tanner (actually the head coach)? Could you actually hear his answers? All I heard was the announcers asking him the questions.

[mdterps4life25]

Aubrey Huff has had an absolutely horrible week at the plate. How can a player go from being scorching hot to not being able to hit a thing in a matter of a game or two?



Huff Daddy cant hit a changeup or breaking ball to save his life.

[BaltBird 24]

Uh oh, beanball war brewing?

[blueberryale77]

Aubrey Huff has had an absolutely horrible week at the plate. How can a player go from being scorching hot to not being able to hit a thing in a matter of a game or two?

That's baseball. It's part of the "fun" of it. Usually it actually is fun... just not when all your team's hitters are slumping at once.

[VivianDarkbloom]

Do you PH this soon?

[blueberryale77]

Do you PH this soon?

What's the point? It's not like we have any pinch hitters who can hit.

[PurpleHaze]

Let Quiroz hit - he is doing no worse than ramon. :o

[Peace21]

Awful just awful baseball.

[Fan4Life]

We are a horrible breaking ball hitting team....

[blueberryale77]

Next inning Little Luis will start a rally for us and BRob will hit a homer or at least a triple to make u for his error on his "covering the bases" day.

[The Rick]

Moose, Dr Lev says: "Sweet".

[bassinwv]

Next inning Little Luis will start a rally for us and BRob will hit a homer or at least a triple to make u for his error on his "covering the bases" day.

That is only if Little Luis can sneak it past the second baseman. ;)

[SrMeowMeow]

This looks like another hard luck loss for Guthrie. Gotta suck being 0-2 in four starts with an ERA under four.

[JohnLockesGhost]

That is only if Little Luis can sneak it past the second baseman. ;)

Congratulations on post #1.

We're only two down. We owe Guthrie a win.

[PaulFolk]

This looks like another hard luck loss for Guthrie. Gotta suck being 0-2 in four starts with an ERA under four.
It's the sixth inning, in a two-run game. Let's let things play out.

[bassinwv]

Congratulations on post #1.

We're only two down. We owe Guthrie a win.

Thanks and we do owe Guthrie a win he gives us good innings we need to give him some runs.

[SrMeowMeow]

It's the sixth inning, in a two-run game. Let's let things play out.

Hey, never give up, I'm with you. That's just the vibe I'm getting. Baseball's a pretty random sport though so it could go either way.

Do you think Guthrie starts the seventh if we don't score this inning?

[PaulFolk]

Hey, never give up, I'm with you. That's just the vibe I'm getting. Baseball's a pretty random sport though so it could go either way.

Do you think Guthrie starts the seventh if we don't score this inning?
I think he starts the seventh either way (but I have the advantage of seeing that nobody's warming up in the bullpen :D)

[Zanetheo'sfan]

That is only if Little Luis can sneak it past the second baseman. ;)

Well, I guess the first baseman will have to do.:D

[VivianDarkbloom]

Nice AB Loooie

[SrMeowMeow]

Rally time!

[NOVA OriolesFan]

Good to get the leadoff man on.

[Moose Milligan]

What inning are we in? This game seems to be going way fast.

[BaltBird 24]

What's the point? It's not like we have any pinch hitters who can hit.

Hmmm.

Brandon Fahey .077/.077/.077
Ramon Hernandez .156/.163/.333
Jay Payton .208/.208/.333

Yes, we're doomed!

[fdfcosta]

Does anybody else think Wietters will play ball in Baltimore this year?

[bassinwv]

Well, I guess the first baseman will have to do.:D

I'll settle for the first baseman. Now lets get him in! :)

[PaulFolk]

What inning are we in? This game seems to be going way fast.
It's the sixth, and it is way fast. They got halfway through the game (middle of the 5th) in exactly one hour.

[blueberryale77]

Melvin looked safe to me.

[vatech1994]

Brian Roberts is 0 for his last 9 with a walk
Mora is 1 for his last 10

Is it any wonder we're struggling to score runs right now?

[Zanetheo'sfan]

Markakissssss!

[JohnLockesGhost]

Melvin looked safe to me.

Out by an eyelash.

Woohoo. HR Kakes. 2-2 game

[Why Not?]

Just like that, new ballgame.

[bassinwv]

I'll take that bomb by Markakis anytime. :D

[BaltBird 24]

In Markakis We Trust.

[SrMeowMeow]

Markaaaaaaaakis for MVP!

[NOVA OriolesFan]

Now that is super sweet. Seems like Nick is heating up.

[blueberryale77]

Holy crud, Nick hit a home run by accident! :D

[Why Not?]

Melvin looked safe to me.

I thought he was easily safe, the replays didn't agree with us. Stupid replays.

[bassinwv]

Holy crud, Nick hit a home run by accident! :D

I'll take that kind of accident all day. ;)

[vatech1994]

Home runs don't need no stinking rally; home runs are their own rally

Nice shot Nick

[VivianDarkbloom]

LOL Buck Martinez. "Why so aggressive? 2/3 of this line-up is awful"

[SouthernBird]

Very nice. Good to see some late inning life out of the Orioles this year.

[blueberryale77]

I thought he was easily safe, the replays didn't agree with us. Stupid replays.

Yeah, the later angle did make him look out. The original one sure didn't though.

[NOVA OriolesFan]

Millar walks.

[mdterps4life25]

I root for an oriole over any other player every time...but the guy goin against me has Nick the Stick and every other BOS or MFY player in his starting lineup. Couldnt Nick start heating up next week or somethin??:D

[SrMeowMeow]

Time for Cool Hand Luke.

[vatech1994]

Scott got a good pitch to hit, but he missed it

[NOVA OriolesFan]

C'mon Lukester.

[bassinwv]

If we have any luck its bad luck.

[BaltBird 24]

Probably time to get the bullpen up. Ouch!

[NOVA OriolesFan]

Oh my god.

[BaltBird 24]

Is there anything better than the fan who will throw a homerun ball back onto the field of play? I'd say it's very rare to even come close to a homerun ball, only to throw it back. I love it.

[Wadesworld35]

Someone needs to remind Joe Crede he`s not that good at baseball.

[vatech1994]

I swear that Guthrie must tip that slider. That wasn't that bad of a pitch and he just parked it like he knew it was coming.

So, he throws another slider to Crede and he parks it too. Something is going on with that slider.

I've been noticing that he rarely if ever gets swings on the good ones this year, but guys jump all over the ones in the zone. I swear he is tipping it somehow.

[JohnLockesGhost]

I switch to the Caps game for two seconds and we've given back our two runs. :(

[SrMeowMeow]

Oh...oh god :(

[blueberryale77]

Why do the Orioles continue to steal Jobu's rum with such regularity?

[bassinwv]

Is there anything better than the fan who will throw a homerun ball back onto the field of play? I'd say it's very rare to even come close to a homerun ball, only to throw it back. I love it.

Was a pretty nice throw at that!!

[Fan4Life]

Scoring on the Sox just makes em mad... we should stop that...

[SrMeowMeow]

I swear that Guthrie must tip that slider. That wasn't that bad of a pitch and he just parked it like he knew it was coming.

So, he throws another slider to Crede and he parks it too. Something is going on with that slider.

I've been noticing that he rarely if ever gets swings on the good ones this year, but guys jump all over the ones in the zone. I swear he is tipping it somehow.

FWIW, Gameday marked Crede's home run pitch as being a curveball.

[Wadesworld35]

Why do the Orioles continue to steal Jobu's rum with such regularity?

Haha nice reference. I guess if you`re gonna play like this, might as well do it with a healthy buzz. At least no ones been hit with a bat... yet.

[blueberryale77]

Haha nice reference. I guess if you`re gonna play like this, might as well do it with a healthy buzz. At least no ones been hit with a bat... yet.

I kind of wish some of them would be. It might be the only way to ever get Millar a day off. ;)

[vatech1994]

FWIW, Gameday marked Crede's home run pitch as being a curveball.

I will say that the movement on the Crede homer did look more like a curveball than a slider in that it was straight down. I didn't see the velocity on his. I'll go back and look again.

(pause while I rewind/replay)

No, I looked again. It wasn't a curveball. The speed was 83. Guthrie throws his curve in the 76-78 range. It was a slider, but not a very good one for sure.

Still, it is hard to imagine how two consecutive hitters tee off like that unless something else is going on. The first slider was about thigh high on the outside corner with decent movement and Quentin parked it like he knew it was coming. The second one was on the inside corner but was knee high or below.

[Orioles Magic]

I can't believe Trembly sent Gutherie out there to start the 7th. If we get six good innings from any of our starters take it and go to the bullpen to lock it down. Geeeez!

[BaltBird 24]

NO! You rotten bums! You overpaid weenies! Mild thing, you make my butt sting! I *detest* you! You're all garbage! All of ya! Back up the truck! Back it up!

[bassinwv]

Man that pitch from Sarfate was really good at missing everything...

[Moose Milligan]

So I'm in Kentucky and get an ESPN alert text that says Markakis tied it with a two run homer.

Not 30 seconds after that I get a text saying Chicago hit a homer.

Not 15 seconds after that I get another text saying Chicago hit another solo homer.

WTF???

[vatech1994]

I can't believe Trembly sent Gutherie out there to start the 7th. If we get six good innings from any of our starters take it and go to the bullpen to lock it down. Geeeez!

I knew it was coming.

Yeh, he was under 100 pitches and had retired 12 of the previous 13 hitters. He was clearly done. Let's biitch about the manager. :rolleyes:

Good Lord some of you are tiresome.

[SrMeowMeow]

On Gameday Sarfate looks like he literally sprays a straight fastball anywhere near the catcher. Hopefully there's some movement on it to go with the heat.

[NOVA OriolesFan]

NO! You rotten bums! You overpaid weenies! Mild thing, you make my butt sting! I *detest* you! You're all garbage! All of ya! Back up the truck! Back it up!

Haha nice Major League reference. I haven't seen those movies in such a long time.

[bassinwv]

So I'm in Kentucky and get an ESPN alert text that says Markakis tied it with a two run homer.

Not 30 seconds after that I get a text saying Chicago hit a homer.

Not 15 seconds after that I get another text saying Chicago hit another solo homer.

WTF???

Should have turned your phone after after the first alert! :D

[SrMeowMeow]

I knew it was coming.

Yeh, he was under 100 pitches and had retired 12 of the previous 13 hitters. He was clearly done. Let's biitch about the manager. :rolleyes:

Good Lord some of you are tiresome.

Agreed, if Sarfate'd come straight out and given up a single and a walk people would be whining about Guthrie being out too soon.

[blueberryale77]

So I'm in Kentucky and get an ESPN alert text that says Markakis tied it with a two run homer.

Not 30 seconds after that I get a text saying Chicago hit a homer.

Not 15 seconds after that I get another text saying Chicago hit another solo homer.

WTF???

The wind was blowing out. :cool:

[Why Not?]

So I'm in Kentucky and get an ESPN alert text that says Markakis tied it with a two run homer.

Not 30 seconds after that I get a text saying Chicago hit a homer.

Not 15 seconds after that I get another text saying Chicago hit another solo homer.

WTF???

That's pretty much the amount of time it took in real life.

[vatech1994]

That tells you how bad Huff feels at the plate right now. He just tried to bunt for a base hit.

[blueberryale77]

So today we've seen Kevin Millar and Luke Scott attempt steals (Scott actually making it) and Aubrey Huff try to lay down a bunt. Other than the fact that the Orioles are losing, this is bizarro world.

[Fan4Life]

That tells you how bad Huff feels at the plate right now. He just tried to bunt for a base hit.

After the last hack for strike 3, we see why..

[vatech1994]

After the last hack for strike 3, we see why..

Yeh, it appears that he literally can not pick up the ball coming out of the pitcher's hand. Trembley said he gave him last night off because he could see he was beginning to press. He may have to give him some more time off because he just looks lost right now.

[blueberryale77]

Oh goody! Jay Payton waiting on deck to save the day for us! :D

[bassinwv]

Oh goody! Jay Payton waiting on deck to save the day for us! :D

You beat me to it, I was just going to say that!

[BaltBird 24]

Jay Payton to the rescue!

[Webley Webster]

Sure sign of the apocalypse--Payton gets a possibly meaningful hit off a righty.

[Bahama O's Fan]

okay, honestly, if you want to use Payton, let him pinch run.

[blueberryale77]

OMG Payton is on a roll! (Of course, here comes slumping BRob who has been jinxed by "covering the bases" to kill the rally.) :(

[blueberryale77]

Man this ump likes to call strikes outside and below the knees! :rolleyes:

[vatech1994]

It is really sad watching the crowd mentality in action.

I'll contribute:
Payton is witch! Burn her! She turned me into a newt! Burn her!

[SrMeowMeow]

Well, sigh.

[MurphDogg]

OMG Payton is on a roll! (Of course, here comes slumping BRob who has been jinxed by "covering the bases" to kill the rally.) :(

Grr, does anybody have stats for a potential "covering the bases" curse?

[Fan4Life]

Payton with a hit and Roberts strikes out helplessly.... this is bizzarro world..

[bassinwv]

Grr, does anybody have stats for a potential "covering the bases" curse?

I would rather them quit "covering the bases" and the player actually cover the bases while rounded them.

[SrMeowMeow]

Gah! it's not bizarro world. Roberts will strike out and Payton will get hits. Even a terrible regular player will get hits in about one out of four at-bats.

[blueberryale77]

Grr, does anybody have stats for a potential "covering the bases" curse?

I don't know about stats, but apparently Randy Marsh really hates the covering the bases segment because he has sure screwed Brian on the low and outside pitches all night.

[Fan4Life]

Gah! it's not bizarro world. Roberts will strike out and Payton will get hits. Even a terrible regular player will get hits in about one out of four at-bats.

It's called sarcasm....

[33rdst]

This umpire is awful.

[PaulFolk]

I don't know about stats, but apparently Randy Marsh really hates the covering the bases segment because he has sure screwed Brian on the low and outside pitches all night.
At least he's not getting into drunken fights in the bleachers.

(South Park reference? Anyone?)

[MurphDogg]

I am enjoying the Sarfate experience.

[vatech1994]

I'm waiting for this post:

Brian should swing at that last pitch despite the fact that it was about 5 inches outside. He has to protect the plate, right?

It has to be coming from one of our prolific posters or there would be a major inconsistency. Surely, that poster isn't currently defending Roberts and bashing the umpire for doing a poor job?

[blueberryale77]

It is really sad watching the crowd mentality in action.

I'll contribute:
Payton is witch! Burn her! She turned me into a newt! Burn her!

Ah yes, the superior vatech1994 puts all the inferior posters in their places yet again. Whatever would we do without your insightful commentary on our posts? :rolleyes:

[MurphDogg]

At least he's not getting into drunken fights in the bleachers.

(South Park reference? Anyone?)

He's probably frustrated by the 7+ Couric deposit he has to hold in until after the game.

[MurphDogg]

Hey idiot in the stands. Don't celebrate having dropped an opposing home run and then picked it up.

[Why Not?]

How can WE acquire players capable of hitting these so-called "home runs?"

[MurphDogg]

Damn Capitals.

[vatech1994]

Ah yes, the superior vatech1994 puts all the inferior posters in their places yet again. Whatever would we do without your insightful commentary on our posts? :rolleyes:

Ah yes, she who portrays herself as being even handed despite the fact that anyone with eyes can see that she defends her faves and abuses her doghouse players with an alarming hypocrisy. If you think I come across as feeling superior to you, it is only because you have clearly shown that to be a valid conclusion.

We can do this all night if you want to.

[PaulFolk]

We can do this all night if you want to.
Please don't!

[Fan4Life]

Ah yes, she who portrays herself as being even handed despite the fact that anyone with eyes can see that she defends her faves and abuses her doghouse players with an alarming hypocrisy. If you think I come across as feeling superior to you, it is only because you have clearly shown that to be a valid conclusion.

We can do this all night if you want to.

Beats watching this game....

[Why Not?]

Damn Capitals.

damn lower-case letters



:D

[MurphDogg]

damn lower-case letters



:D

Hilarious.

[bassinwv]

damn lower-case letters



:D

I must be slow it took me a while to get that. :D

[Orioles Magic]

I knew it was coming.

Yeh, he was under 100 pitches and had retired 12 of the previous 13 hitters. He was clearly done. Let's biitch about the manager. :rolleyes:

Good Lord some of you are tiresome.

What is tiresome is a rotation that routinely can not go beyond six friggin innings! Gutherie evidently was done which is why he gave up back to back homers.

[Moose Milligan]

It's getting a little toasty in here.

[vatech1994]

Please don't!

It isn't my idea of a good time either, but she has absolutely no right at all to put that "superior" post on this board. You know it. I know it. She knows it. That was blatantly over the line. Until someone stops her or she apologizes, I will point out her inconsistencies EVERY CHANCE I GET.

[MurphDogg]

Not sure how Brian Roberts can claim insight on how they have rebuilt the Inner Harbor and made it nice as he has only been here since 2001.

[Why Not?]

Attaboy Millar.

[bassinwv]

Way to run that out Millar!

[blueberryale77]

I'm waiting for this post:

Brian should swing at that last pitch despite the fact that it was about 5 inches outside. He has to protect the plate, right?

It has to be coming from one of our prolific posters or there would be a major inconsistency. Surely, that poster isn't currently defending Roberts and bashing the umpire for doing a poor job?

Oh for crying out loud get a life! I made an off the cuff comment several days ago that Millar should have swung at a close pitch because CB Bucknor was behind the plate and had been doing a terrible job all night as he always does. You proceeded to obsess about it for the rest of the game and now are at it again. I never said the strikout was more Millar's fault than Bucknor's, but I maintain that players need to do what they can to deal with obvious bad umpiring. My opinion of that pitch was that it was close enough that Millar could have been able to foul it off. In this case, Roberts got burned in the first inning trying to chase a low and outside pitch in the exact same place where Marsh had called a strike earlier in the at-bat. If I were him, I would not have trusted Marsh on the strike three call, just as I wouldn't have on the one to Millar the other night. However, since he had been burned once earlier in the game when he did what I suggested and went after a truly unhittable pitch that was being ludicrously called a strike, I can understand how the second time around he might have tried a different tactic.

[MurphDogg]

The best thing you can say about these Pale Hosers is at least they're not from Canada.

[bassinwv]

Millar looked like he ran out of Gas on that one. Glad he made it! :eek:

[SrMeowMeow]

So, Carlos Quentin is uh, pretty good. How about that?

Also, since flame wars are more fun than this grim spectacle of a game, vatech, you can come across as trying to be superior sometimes, and blueberry, you do seem to have strong favorites and you let that bias your opinions.

Hopefully one of you can now yell at ME instead and I can really get into this :D

[Moose Milligan]

Luke Scott = Beast

And years younger than Tejada :D

[vatech1994]

Oh for crying out loud get a life! I made an off the cuff comment several days ago that Millar should have swung at a close pitch because CB Bucknor was behind the plate and had been doing a terrible job all night as he always does. You proceeded to obsess about it for the rest of the game and now are at it again. I never said the strikout was more Millar's fault than Bucknor's, but I maintain that players need to do what they can to deal with obvious bad umpiring. My opinion of that pitch was that it was close enough that Millar could have been able to foul it off. In this case, Roberts got burned in the first inning trying to chase a low and outside pitch in the exact same place where Marsh had called a strike earlier in the at-bat. If I were him, I would not have trusted Marsh on the strike three call, just as I wouldn't have on the one to Millar the other night. However, since he had been burned once earlier in the game when he did what I suggested and went after a truly unhittable pitch that was being ludicrously called a strike, I can understand how the second time around he might have tried a different tactic.

For those who don't want to read this diatribe, it boils down to this. BB defended Roberts in two separate posts tonight when he took a third strike that was actually a ball with runners on and condemned Millar for the same thing and it is ok because BB says so.

[MurphDogg]

I think Huff could go for a day off.

[bassinwv]

Huff just doesn't look comfortable at the plate here lately.

[SrMeowMeow]

Luuuuuuuuuke Scott! Stop bashing each other in this thread! Hate, anger, aggression lead to the dark side but Luke will save us!

[BaltBird 24]

Aubrey Huff is absolutely lost at the plate. Can they make an Aubrey Huff rule where we can demote and promote players for five days at a time until they regain their stroke?

[Moose Milligan]

Aubrey Huff is absolutely lost at the plate. Can they make an Aubrey Huff rule where we can demote and promote players for five days at a time until they regain their stroke?

Nah, just play him against Tampa.

[blueberryale77]

Not sure how Brian Roberts can claim insight on how they have rebuilt the Inner Harbor and made it nice as he has only been here since 2001.

He didn't grow up that far away, I'm sure he saw Baltimore at some point as a kid. Plus, aside from Harborplace a lot of the development further out along the harbor has taken place since he's been here.

[Why Not?]

So, Carlos Quentin is uh, pretty good. How about that?

Also, since flame wars are more fun than this grim spectacle of a game, vatech, you can come across as trying to be superior sometimes, and blueberry, you do seem to have strong favorites and you let that bias your opinions.

Hopefully one of you can now yell at ME instead and I can really get into this :D

Shut up creep!

Is that what you were looking for?

[vatech1994]

vatech, you can come across as trying to be superior sometimes

I agree with you. Most of the time it isn't intentional and, when I realize I'm doing it, I apologize. Sometimes I definitely get annoyed by what I consider overreaction or illogical posts and let it show in my posts. If you see me do it, please call me on it.

It is intentional right now with BB because she has portrayed herself as an even handed, moral authority on this board several different times recently and it just isn't so. She started this war several days ago. She can end it if she wants to do so.

[SrMeowMeow]

Shut up creep!

Is that what you were looking for?

Yo momma's a Yankees fan!

:)


I agree with you. Most of the time it isn't intentional and, when I realize I'm doing it, I apologize. Sometimes I definitely get annoyed by what I consider overreaction or illogical posts and let it show in my posts. If you see me do it, please call me on it.

It is intentional right now with BB because she has portrayed herself as an even handed, moral authority on this board several different times recently and it just isn't so. She started this war several days ago. She can end it if she wants to do so.

You know that Ghandi quote, "an eye for an eye makes everyone happy?" I think it applies here :D

I'm just kidding, I'm sure you both have legitimate issues. But if you guys fight in a game thread I reserve my right to tease :p

[MurphDogg]

He didn't grow up that far away, I'm sure he saw Baltimore at some point as a kid. Plus, aside from Harborplace a lot of the development further out along the harbor has taken place since he's been here.

I suppose, it just came off as an extremely canned answer to me. Not that I expect much more from athletes.

[JimDH]

Get the rally caps ready.

[blueberryale77]

So, Carlos Quentin is uh, pretty good. How about that?

Also, since flame wars are more fun than this grim spectacle of a game, vatech, you can come across as trying to be superior sometimes, and blueberry, you do seem to have strong favorites and you let that bias your opinions.

Hopefully one of you can now yell at ME instead and I can really get into this :D

Where have I ever denied having strong opinions or favorite players? I respect everyone else's right to have opinions about players. I may argue their positions on something specific, but the only time I will post anything that even vaguely resembles a personal insult to another poster is when they have attacked me or another poster first in a way that I feel is unjustified. Certain posters have a tendency to take out their hostilities on fellow message board posters in a way that is completely unjustified. Bullying, even online, is one thing that I will not tolerate.

[vatech1994]

Really nice DP by Mora and Roberts

[vatech1994]

Where have I ever denied having strong opinions or favorite players? I respect everyone else's right to have opinions about players. I may argue their positions on something specific, but the only time I will post anything that even vaguely resembles a personal insult to another poster is when they have attacked me or another poster first in a way that I feel is unjustified. Certain posters have a tendency to take out their hostilities on fellow message board posters in a way that is completely unjustified. Bullying, even online, is one thing that I will not tolerate.

AFter reading this post, I'm confused. Who were you saying feels like they are morally superior?

EDIT: LOL, I just noticed that she hit me with neg rep and insulted me again. Good stuff

[blueberryale77]

I agree with you. Most of the time it isn't intentional and, when I realize I'm doing it, I apologize. Sometimes I definitely get annoyed by what I consider overreaction or illogical posts and let it show in my posts. If you see me do it, please call me on it.

It is intentional right now with BB because she has portrayed herself as an even handed, moral authority on this board several different times recently and it just isn't so. She started this war several days ago. She can end it if she wants to do so.

Saying that Kevin Millar should have swung at a pitch started a war? Really? Whatever, I give up. Welcome to my Ignore List. Please reciprocate so that we can both show the rest of the board some respect by sparing them this pointless tedium.

[blueberryale77]

I suppose, it just came off as an extremely canned answer to me. Not that I expect much more from athletes.

He's probably answered the same question at least a few dozen times in his career. You have to start recycling answers at some point.

[MurphDogg]

Any chance Ramon pinch hits for Fahey? Do we have an emergency shortstop? Jones? I hate the thirteen pitcher roster.

[Tony-OH]

Both of you stop it. There, that's even handed. :D

If you need to put each other on ignore, do it and spare the rest of us.

[vatech1994]

Both of you stop it. There, that's even handed. :D

If you need to put each other on ignore, do it and spare the rest of us.

You're right. My apologies. I'm truly sorry for hijacking the thread.

[MurphDogg]

If this game gets tied up there will be an interesting defensive alignment next inning. Jones at short and a pitcher in the outfield?

[Orioles Magic]

Please click one of the Quick Reply icons in the posts above to activate Quick Reply.

[bobmc]

How bad did AJ look on the K?

[blueberryale77]

Well this'll be interesting if we go to extra innings...

(no SS)

[baltosravns2110]

Another chance for the covering the bases curse to appear.

[glenn__davis]

Any chance Ramon pinch hits for Fahey? Do we have an emergency shortstop? Jones? I hate the thirteen pitcher roster.

Millar to 3rd, Mora to SS, Hernandez to 1B?

If it gets to that.

[Peace21]

I know we are rebuiling, but the hitting is horrendous.

[Why Not?]

Cover your bases, Bri.

[OK_Os_Fan]

looks like Dave is playing the numbers with Hernandez 0- 4 against Jenks

[Peace21]

Overtime in Philly btw.

[Why Not?]

So you're saying there's a chance?

[MurphDogg]

Hopefully we can find out. Mora at short, Millar at third and Hernandez at first is probably the choice.

[erb8472]

Come on Mel.

[Orioles Magic]

Can we get some Oriole Magic tonight to unite us all again?

[orayole]

I got my Oriole Magic playing!

[erb8472]

Let's go O's! Let's go O's!

[erb8472]

Walk off homerun time.

[orayole]

Woohoooooooooooooooooooooo!

[bassinwv]

O Yeah!!!

[Peace21]

Wow, honestly wasnt expecting that

[vatech1994]

What a phenomenal at bat by Mora. Great stuff.

[Why Not?]

Something magic happens!

[square634]

Ohhhhhhh Yeeeeeeah

[baltosravns2110]

YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSS.

Now win it so we dont need the shortstop situation huh :)

http://youtube.com/watch?v=u8BMYo3Z7mc

[bassinwv]

Nice time for the bats to come alive!!!! :D