Jeter voted Most Overrated by Fellow Players

[lint06]

I don't think I saw this one:
http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/rumors/post/Jeter-voted-most-overrated-player-in-Sports-Illu?urn=mlb,89331

If it has been posted, just ignore it :)

[Mad Mark]

Derek Christ...overrated? Surely you jest! :angryfire:

[Moose Milligan]

Awwwww, no way!

Maybe the press and media will take note....

...nah....not gonna happen.

[byrdz]

Jeter being overrated doesn't mean he's not a good player but I agree that he's overrated, how could you not be when you are an icon in the largest U.S. city?

[MChance]

Haha, about time something like this happend to Jeter! Maybe people are finally starting to realize that even though he makes one spectacular play a year, he's really not all that. I wonder if this will effect his sleepovers with A-Rod ...

[beaner]

He's overhyped more than he's overrated in my opinion. Everyone knows he's not even the best shortstop on his own team. I don't think overrated is the right term, overhyped is. That list is ridiculous, Barry Zito isn't overrated, he's over paid, but not overrated. He's not even rated period.

Kevin Youkilis?? What? Is he rated? Did they give the players choices? This is very odd. Why Kevin Youkilis or Barry Zito are even mentioned is beyond me.

[TyCobb]

Jeter is a no doubt HOF IMO, but he isn't Mickey Mantle or Babe Ruth. He is a great player but the media makes him out to be the Babe or Mantle.

BTW what is Jeter fielding stats because by my eyes he is the worst fielding SS that is a regular. I mean I always thought he was bad, but this year he is AWFUL.

[Lt Melmo]

He's overhyped more than he's overrated in my opinion. Everyone knows he's not even the best shortstop on his own team. I don't think overrated is the right term, overhyped is. That list is ridiculous, Barry Zito isn't overrated, he's over paid, but not overrated. He's not even rated period.

Kevin Youkilis?? What? Is he rated? Did they give the players choices? This is very odd. Why Kevin Youkilis or Barry Zito are even mentioned is beyond me.
Youk and Zito? You should be worried about David Wright being picked...

[beaner]

Jeter is a no doubt HOF IMO, but he isn't Mickey Mantle or Babe Ruth. He is a great player but the media makes him out to be the Babe or Mantle.

BTW what is Jeter fielding stats because by my eyes he is the worst fielding SS that is a regular. I mean I always thought he was bad, but this year he is AWFUL.

Agreed. He's overhyped, I just don't think overrated is the right word.

[NewOwnerNeeded]

I believe Jeter was voted the most overrated player last year as well. As expected, the media is all up in arms about this. Of course they are, who do you think overrates him? I agree with this. He is a great player, but he is not even the best player on his own team, much less the best player in the league as he is treated.

[beaner]

Youk and Zito? You should be worried about David Wright being picked...

At least Wright has put up decent numbers in recent years, but you're right. Youkilis is a nice player, don't get me wrong, but to say he's one of the most overrated players in the game is a bit much. Does anyone recognize him as a great player? Doesn't one have to be rated highly somewhere to even be considered overrated?

Zito should not be on any list except biggest Free Agent busts ever.

[BaltimoreTerp]

He's overhyped more than he's overrated in my opinion. Everyone knows he's not even the best shortstop on his own team. I don't think overrated is the right term, overhyped is. That list is ridiculous, Barry Zito isn't overrated, he's over paid, but not overrated. He's not even rated period.

Kevin Youkilis?? What? Is he rated? Did they give the players choices? This is very odd. Why Kevin Youkilis or Barry Zito are even mentioned is beyond me.

Barry Zito WAS overrated. Then he went to the Giants...:laughlol:

And in general, being overhyped leads to being overrated. Especially when some old sportswriter (like Bob Ryan on PTI today :ohlord:) calls him the "consummate ballplayer" and says that he would take Jeter over anyone else if he were building a playoff team.

It sickens me. He's not as good an all-around ballplayer as Brian Roberts or Nick Markakis, yet because he plays in New York, can hit pretty well and is telegenic he gets so much attention.

(Note: before people start calling me a homer, I did say "all-around" ballplayer. That includes things like defense and baserunning.

Hell, who am I kidding. I think I'll call myself a homer :p)

[BaltimoreTerp]

Agreed. He's overhyped, I just don't think overrated is the right word.

But that IS overrated.

From Dictionary.com

o·ver·rate Audio Help /ˌoʊvərˈreɪt/ Pronunciation Key - Show Spelled Pronunciation[oh-ver-reyt] Pronunciation Key - Show IPA Pronunciation
–verb (used with object), -rat·ed, -rat·ing.
to rate or appraise too highly; overestimate: I think you overrate their political influence.

[NewOwnerNeeded]

But that IS overrated.

From Dictionary.com

o·ver·rate Audio Help /ˌoʊvərˈreɪt/ Pronunciation Key - Show Spelled Pronunciation[oh-ver-reyt] Pronunciation Key - Show IPA Pronunciation
–verb (used with object), -rat·ed, -rat·ing.
to rate or appraise too highly; overestimate: I think you overrate their political influence.

I couldn't agree more. :clap3:

[beaner]

Barry Zito WAS overrated. Then he went to the Giants...:laughlol:

And in general, being overhyped leads to being overrated. Especially when some old sportswriter (like Bob Ryan on PTI today :ohlord:) calls him the "consummate ballplayer" and says that he would take Jeter over anyone else if he were building a playoff team.

It sickens me. He's not as good an all-around ballplayer as Brian Roberts or Nick Markakis, yet because he plays in New York, can hit pretty well and is telegenic he gets so much attention.

(Note: before people start calling me a homer, I did say "all-around" ballplayer. That includes things like defense and baserunning.

Hell, who am I kidding. I think I'll call myself a homer :p)

I think of overhyped as someone who is on TV all the time, in magazines...etc. I see your point, but I think there is a difference, I just can't pinpoint why I feel that way.

As for Bob Ryan saying he'd take Jeter over anyone, whatever, that's just ridiculous and I'm a Jeter fan. I think the guy gets a bad rap from Non Yankee fans for something that's not really his fault. He's an excellent player who gets too much attention. Does that mean overrated neccesarily? I don't think so. I don't think anyone (besides Bob Ryan today) would say he's the best player in the game or even in the top 10 right now.

I always thought Brett Favre was overrated for the record, but I guess he's overhyped too. Who knows. I'm an idiot.

[BaltimoreTerp]

I think of overhyped as someone who is on TV all the time, in magazines...etc. I see your point, but I think there is a difference, I just can't pinpoint why I feel that way.

As for Bob Ryan saying he'd take Jeter over anyone, whatever, that's just ridiculous and I'm a Jeter fan. I think the guy gets a bad rap from Non Yankee fans for something that's not really his fault. He's an excellent player who gets too much attention. Does that mean overrated neccesarily? I don't think so. I don't think anyone (besides Bob Ryan today) would say he's the best player in the game or even in the top 10 right now.

I always thought Brett Favre was overrated for the record, but I guess he's overhyped too. Who knows. I'm an idiot.

I think you have a point. It's just that overhyped leads into overrated.

In Jeter's case, it isn't just the extreme media coverage. It is when that coverage evolves into statements of "fact" by supposedly knowledgeable individuals that are simply incorrect.

When you start comparing undeserving players to the best of all time, that is overrated.

Believe me, Bob Ryan isn't nearly the only person who feels that way about Jeter.

[beaner]

I think you have a point. It's just that overhyped leads into overrated.

In Jeter's case, it isn't just the extreme media coverage. It is when that coverage evolves into statements of "fact" by supposedly knowledgeable individuals that are simply incorrect.

When you start comparing undeserving players to the best of all time, that is overrated.

Believe me, Bob Ryan isn't nearly the only person who feels that way about Jeter.

I just enjoy Jeter as a good ballplayer, no more, no less. I don't care who he plays for, how many Maxim hot 100 girls he's dated (6 by the way), or any of that nonsense. He's a great ballplayer who happens to get too much attention.

How anyone can say he's the best player in the game is beyond me, but it is what it is. He's never won an MVP or anything, so he's never been recognized as the best player in the american league.

Overhyped, absolutely...Overrated, I guess by some he is.

[Why Not?]

Jeter has always been overrated, leading to a backlash among knowledgible fans. In a strange way, that has led to him being somewhat underrated. :scratchchinhmm:

[Mad Mark]

The standard defense here seems to be "he's a great player, but..."
I contest that. I do not believe he is a "great" player. I believe he's a very good offensive player, and a mediocre defender. People love to rave about Derek Christ's "leadership", yet he wouldn't change positions for the good of the team he "captains" to make way for a clearly superior defender.
He won a lot of bling playing for the Yankee$, so he's going to the HOF regardless, but he remains--in my eyes at least--a significantly overrated player.

[BaltimoreTerp]

The standard defense here seems to be "he's a great player, but..."
I contest that. I do not believe he is a "great" player. I believe he's a very good offensive player, and a mediocre defender. People love to rave about Derek Christ's "leadership", yet he wouldn't change positions for the good of the team he "captains" to make way for a clearly superior defender.
He won a lot of bling playing for the Yankee$, so he's going to the HOF regardless, but he remains--in my eyes at least--a significantly overrated player.

He is a very good hitter. He has some power and generally makes pretty good contact (though interestingly enough he seems to strike out a ton, especially compared to other guys like Mantle and Ruth who walked as much as they struck out, or twice as often in Ruth's case). He isn't a very good defender when it comes to range and arm, though he seems to have the Cal Ripken instinct to be in the right place at the right time (even out of position :laughlol:).

An interesting thing to note if you look at BaseballReference.com (http://www.baseball-reference.com/j/jeterde01.shtml)'s comparables: every one of his "Most Similar by Age" players was a second baseman. Coincidence?

[orayole]

The guys on Mike & Mike were astounded lol. Though he claimed it was more about the people that took the survey saying that they didnt have the guts to put their opinion out in public, rather than being about Jeter. But all the previews he kept mentioning Jeter Jeter Jeter Jeter.

[geschinger]

I think of overhyped as someone who is on TV all the time, in magazines...etc. I see your point, but I think there is a difference, I just can't pinpoint why I feel that way.


I think it is both... The overhyping of Jeter and his abilities leads him to his abilities as a player being overrated whether it be his ability in clutch or his defensive ability. I believe the simple fact that he has won multiple gold gloves is evidence that they overhyping of Jeter has led to the overrating of Jeter.

[blueberryale77]

Anyone else think it was kind of classless of 495 MLB players to participate in a survey about which one of their colleagues was "most overrated"? It seems to me pretty disrespectful to contribute to something that's just about bashing your own peers.

[mweb]

He's overhyped more than he's overrated in my opinion. Everyone knows he's not even the best shortstop on his own team. I don't think overrated is the right term, overhyped is. That list is ridiculous, Barry Zito isn't overrated, he's over paid, but not overrated. He's not even rated period.

Kevin Youkilis?? What? Is he rated? Did they give the players choices? This is very odd. Why Kevin Youkilis or Barry Zito are even mentioned is beyond me.

His defense is incredibly overrated.

His clutchness is also overrated.

Finally, his leadership skills are most likely overrated.

[beaner]

His defense is incredibly overrated.

His clutchness is also overrated.

Finally, his leadership skills are most likely overrated.

Defensively, he's not good now, and was never great. I'm in total agreement. I can honestly say that I have no idea how he won any Gold Gloves, but whatever.

His career playoff numbers are really really good: .314 17 HR, 48 RBI, reached base 105 of 119 games. That's pretty clutch if you ask me. I know the devils advocate answer will be " Well, they're in the playoffs every year", which he deserves some credit for, don't you think?

He's a great ballplayer, certainly overhyped beyond belief, but I will stop short of calling him the most overrated player in the game.

Would you repsect him more with the same exact numbers, but he played for the Pirates his whole career? Let's just assume everything else is the same: The Pirates winning 4 World Series, playoffs every year....etc. Just curious.

[Why Not?]

Defensively, he's not good now, and was never great. I'm in total agreement. I can honestly say that I have no idea how he won any Gold Gloves, but whatever.

His career playoff numbers are really really good: .314 17 HR, 48 RBI, reached base 105 of 119 games. That's pretty clutch if you ask me. I know the devils advocate answer will be " Well, they're in the playoffs every year", which he deserves some credit for, don't you think?
He's a great ballplayer, certainly overhyped beyond belief, but I will stop short of calling him the most overrated player in the game.

Would you repsect him more with the same exact numbers, but he played for the Pirates his whole career? Let's just assume everything else is the same: The Pirates winning 4 World Series, playoffs every year....etc. Just curious.


His playoff numbers are pretty similar to overall numbers. That's not really being clutch, that's just being very good.

[beaner]

His playoff numbers are pretty similar to overall numbers. That's not really being clutch, that's just being very good.

The playoffs are the biggest stage, and to consistently be that good on that stage is pretty clutch in my book.

[Mad Mark]

Defensively, he's not good now, and was never great. I'm in total agreement. I can honestly say that I have no idea how he won any Gold Gloves, but whatever.

His career playoff numbers are really really good: .314 17 HR, 48 RBI, reached base 105 of 119 games. That's pretty clutch if you ask me. I know the devils advocate answer will be " Well, they're in the playoffs every year", which he deserves some credit for, don't you think?

He's a great ballplayer, certainly overhyped beyond belief, but I will stop short of calling him the most overrated player in the game.

Would you repsect him more with the same exact numbers, but he played for the Pirates his whole career? Let's just assume everything else is the same: The Pirates winning 4 World Series, playoffs every year....etc. Just curious.

He'd annoy me a little bit less, and the media would constantly be misspelling his name.

[beaner]

He'd annoy me a little bit less, and the media would constantly be misspelling his name.

Bash, you are one person, and I say that with 100% respect for you, that I think would respect Jeter if he played for anyone but the Yankees.

[mweb]

Defensively, he's not good now, and was never great. I'm in total agreement. I can honestly say that I have no idea how he won any Gold Gloves, but whatever.

His career playoff numbers are really really good: .314 17 HR, 48 RBI, reached base 105 of 119 games. That's pretty clutch if you ask me. I know the devils advocate answer will be " Well, they're in the playoffs every year", which he deserves some credit for, don't you think?

He's a great ballplayer, certainly overhyped beyond belief, but I will stop short of calling him the most overrated player in the game.

Would you repsect him more with the same exact numbers, but he played for the Pirates his whole career? Let's just assume everything else is the same: The Pirates winning 4 World Series, playoffs every year....etc. Just curious.

Regular season OPS: .845
Postseason OPS: .846

He's a good hitter, very good for a SS, good in the regular season and equally good in the postseason. That's not clutch, that's being a good hitter. Clutch would be better than normal.

Who's more overrated?

If he played for the Pirates, he probably wouldn't have the gold gloves and be as overrated, even with the rings. I do respect him, and do think he's been a very good player. However, it's hard to argue against him being overrated.

[beaner]

Regular season OPS: .845
Postseason OPS: .846

He's a good hitter, very good for a SS, good in the regular season and equally good in the postseason. That's not clutch, that's being a good hitter. Clutch would be better than normal.

Who's more overrated?

If he played for the Pirates, he probably wouldn't have the gold gloves and be as overrated, even with the rings. I do respect him, and do think he's been a very good player. However, it's hard to argue against him being overrated.


Obviously, there is no right or wrong here, we're just talking semantics, but it's not really fair to hold his regular season numbers against him so to speak when referencing his post season numbers. I consider clutch to be "stepping up in big situations", which could be considered most at bats in the playoffs.

Because his numbers are very good in regular and post season, i agree that makes him a very good player. However, the pressure is certainly greater in the post season, making those numbers a bit more impressive in my opinion.

[Mad Mark]

Bash, you are one person, and I say that with 100% respect for you, that I think would respect Jeter if he played for anyone but the Yankees.

Had he played for anyone other than the Yankee$--when he played for the Yankee$--he'd never have become Derek Christ Superstar, "the best shortstop in the history of baseball!"
Instead, he'd be Derek Jeter, future HOF 2B for...somebody.
I don't hate or disrespect the man...I do hate and disrespect the flood of bull****, disinformation, hype and propaganda that surrounds him.

[beaner]

Had he played for anyone other than the Yankee$--when he played for the Yankee$--he'd never have become Derek Christ Superstar, "the best shortstop in the history of baseball!"
Instead, he'd be Derek Jeter, future HOF 2B for...somebody.
I don't hate or disrespect the man...I do hate and disrespect the flood of bull****, disinformation, hype and propaganda that surrounds him.


Exactly, overhyped.

A Hall of Fame player who has gotten too much hype over the years. Playing in New York, winning championships, and being seemingly a good guy off the field has gotten him too much attention, which really isn't any of his doing. I don't really think anyone would call him the greatest shortstop in the history of Baseball, that would be lunacy.

[BaltimoreTerp]

Exactly, overhyped.

A Hall of Fame player who has gotten too much hype over the years. Playing in New York, winning championships, and being seemingly a good guy off the field has gotten him too much attention, which really isn't any of his doing. I don't really think anyone would call him the greatest shortstop in the history of Baseball, that would be lunacy.

Then you would think wrong, which is why he's over-rated.

[beaner]

Then you would think wrong, which is why he's over-rated.

I challenge you to find me one person in the media that has said or written that Derek Jeter is the greatest shortstop in Baseball history. PM me a link to it...I Like Jeter, but would never in a million years call him the greatest ever. If you can provide me one link, just one of someone refering to Derek Jeter as the greatest Shortstop who ever played the game, then I will bow to you sir and walk away from this debate feeling a lot stupider than when I came into it. Because as much as I like and respect the guy, calling him the greatest SS to play the game is ridiculous beyond belief.

[Mu'ayyidSaafir]

I was listening to Mike and Mike the morning after Tiger's U.S. Open win. They were talking about what drives "the great ones," mentioning Tiger Woods, Michael Jordan, and Derek Jeter. Can we all agree that that's insane? Two guys who are probably the greatest in the history of their sport, and Derek Jeter? I mean, Chase Utley is just as good, would anybody think to say Tiger Woods, Michael Jordan and Chase Utley?

As for beaner's scenario, if Derek Jeter were on the Pirates, and the Pirates won four rings, then there would be other really good players on the Pirates. We would talk about Jeter as one of those players. We would not talk about him like he was comparable to Jordan and Woods.

[beaner]

I was listening to Mike and Mike the morning after Tiger's U.S. Open win. They were talking about what drives "the great ones," mentioning Tiger Woods, Michael Jordan, and Derek Jeter. Can we all agree that that's insane? Two guys who are probably the greatest in the history of their sport, and Derek Jeter? I mean, Chase Utley is just as good, would anybody think to say Tiger Woods, Michael Jordan and Chase Utley?

As for beaner's scenario, if Derek Jeter were on the Pirates, and the Pirates won four rings, then there would be other really good players on the Pirates. We would talk about Jeter as one of those players. We would not talk about him like he was comparable to Jordan and Woods.

Yes, that is insane. I would never put anyone in the category of Jordan, not now, not ever. I guess that would certainly qualify as overrated. Maybe I don't let all of that stuff bother me because I am a fan of Jeter. Who knows. That Mike & Mike thing is ridiculous.

[mweb]

Obviously, there is no right or wrong here, we're just talking semantics, but it's not really fair to hold his regular season numbers against him so to speak when referencing his post season numbers. I consider clutch to be "stepping up in big situations", which could be considered most at bats in the playoffs.

Because his numbers are very good in regular and post season, i agree that makes him a very good player. However, the pressure is certainly greater in the post season, making those numbers a bit more impressive in my opinion.

There is a right and wrong here, and I'm right and you're wrong.:p

There's no doubt that his defense is very overrated, and you agree with that, so he's overrated. And it's not like the rest of his game is underrated.

I'm not holding his regular season numbers against him, you are confusing being a good hitter with being a clutch hitter. Being consistently good at hitting in all situations doesn't make anyone clutch, stepping up your game in clutch situations makes you clutch, I don't think that's semantics at all, that's just they way it is. The sentence you wrote basically says the same thing, Jeter isn't really stepping up his game in clutch situations as you say, he's being himself.

And according to Nate Silver, as of the end of 2005, Jeter had actually performed worse than his norm in clutch situations for his regular season career. Obviously his postseason numbers are part of his reputation though. However, for a guy who is probably considered the 2nd best clutch hitter after Ortiz, you'd expect him to step it up in the regular season as well. Ortiz has, at least during his time with the Sox.

BTW, Jeter was awful last year in the playoffs, and quite bad in the 2003 and 2004 ALCS vs the Sox. His postseason numbers are really carried by his ALDS play, which has been great other than last year. He's below his norm once they get past the ALDS. Lets also look at RBI, Jeter has 49 in 123 games, not exactly screaming out clutch.

Your last comment is basically saying he's done a good job of not choking in the playoffs, to me, not choking does not equate to being clutch.

[Roy Firestone]

He's overhyped more than he's overrated in my opinion. Everyone knows he's not even the best shortstop on his own team. I don't think overrated is the right term, overhyped is. That list is ridiculous, Barry Zito isn't overrated, he's over paid, but not overrated. He's not even rated period.

Kevin Youkilis?? What? Is he rated? Did they give the players choices? This is very odd. Why Kevin Youkilis or Barry Zito are even mentioned is beyond me.
The issue really isnt who is overrated or overhyped. In my opinion, Derek Jeter has been a terrific ballplayer for a gigantic media served franchise for more than a decade. Its about the number of scribes and radio and TV people assigned to the MFY on a daily basis.Maybe a thousand Yankee media hounds worldwide if you really think about it.Jeter deserves all the credit for being a mostly clutch player for most of the championship runs...but his hype exceeds just about any player in recent memory.
I think Jeter in the 60's would be comparable to someone like Dave Concepcion or maybe even Ozzie Smith( not because of the glove) but because both men played on great franchises and were media favorites.
There is a logic that says, by all accounts, Cal Jr. was an overrated or overhyped player. But the sheer numbers and his incredible accomplishment in the streak make him worthy of HOF honors.
So, to summarize. Jeter is a very good player on a very magnified spotlight. I could argue that Ernie Banks at shortstop in NY would have easily been the most popular Yankee infielder of all time.
Take nothing away from Jeter...but give alot of creedence to the media machine.

[BaltimoreTerp]

Here is an example of how Derek Jeter is overrated.

These are BBReference's "cluch stats" for Jeter, who is named by a lot of people as an extremely clutch player, and those for another guy who is often called the exact opposite. Tell me who is Jeter (the easy part) and who the other guy is:


I Split G GS PA AB R H 2B 3B HR RBI BB IBB SO HBP SH SF ROE GDP SB CS BA OBP SLG OPS BAbip tOPS+ Split
+-+------------+----+----+-----+-----+----+----+---+---+---+----+----+---+----+---+---+---+---+---+----+---+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+------------+
2 outs, RISP 775 974 831 263 39 7 18 337 131 17 184 12 0 0 11 0 27 3 .316 .417 .445 .862 .390 105 2 outs, RISP
Late & Close 849 1178 994 286 44 3 28 153 135 17 214 25 18 6 14 24 31 6 .288 .384 .423 .807 .340 92 Late & Close
Tie Game 1658 2747 2432 777 111 16 76 235 229 9 391 39 37 10 46 66 98 27 .319 .386 .472 .858 .355 103 Tie Game
Within 1 R 1826 4535 4024 1310 196 27 126 452 380 20 655 64 49 18 65 108 157 48 .326 .391 .482 .873 .363 106 Within 1 R
Within 2 R 1869 5894 5218 1673 265 37 151 620 508 22 864 82 60 26 93 130 193 57 .321 .388 .472 .860 .360 103 Within 2 R
Within 3 R 1890 6822 6031 1923 305 41 167 735 596 26 1013 97 66 32 117 144 232 68 .319 .387 .466 .853 .360 102 Within 3 R
Within 4 R 1899 7465 6600 2107 345 47 181 826 655 28 1121 108 68 34 125 155 251 70 .319 .388 .468 .856 .361 102 Within 4 R
Margin > 4 R 703 1269 1109 327 51 10 18 139 125 1 204 27 1 7 25 25 18 2 .295 .378 .408 .785 .346 87 Margin > 4 R

Career: .316 .386 .459



I Split G GS PA AB R H 2B 3B HR RBI BB IBB SO HBP SH SF ROE GDP SB CS BA OBP SLG OPS BAbip tOPS+ Split
+-+------------+----+----+-----+-----+----+----+---+---+---+----+----+---+----+---+---+---+---+---+----+---+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+------------+
2 outs, RISP 832 1037 854 233 34 2 49 337 160 36 201 23 0 0 11 0 26 2 .273 .401 .489 .891 .305 88 2 outs, RISP
Late & Close 871 1159 989 277 58 3 63 210 142 23 237 16 4 8 12 28 47 11 .280 .377 .536 .913 .307 90 Late & Close
Tie Game 1599 2482 2107 629 129 5 148 406 318 18 465 37 7 13 30 49 77 19 .299 .398 .575 .973 .319 102 Tie Game
Within 1 R 1847 4364 3726 1132 217 11 271 751 525 40 787 71 14 28 54 87 154 37 .304 .397 .586 .983 .319 103 Within 1 R
Within 2 R 1911 5721 4924 1479 271 14 337 958 663 50 1038 83 15 36 67 110 203 54 .300 .390 .566 .956 .319 98 Within 2 R
Within 3 R 1933 6715 5800 1771 320 18 408 1155 754 58 1212 101 16 44 78 129 229 59 .305 .392 .578 .970 .323 101 Within 3 R
Within 4 R 1943 7391 6392 1957 357 22 453 1295 812 61 1349 111 16 60 85 143 255 63 .306 .391 .582 .972 .323 101 Within 4 R
Margin > 4 R 742 1330 1166 362 55 4 79 249 128 13 217 20 0 16 19 34 19 2 .310 .383 .568 .951 .319 97 Margin > 4 R

Career: .307 .389 .579