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twoBshorty
07-28-2008, 06:28 PM
Well, it's that time of year again! I wonder if Manny would still be pulling these stunts if he had been traded prior to this year and it was another team (for example if the trade to the O's had, heaven forbid, occurred) responsible for the decision to pick up his options?

Anyway, Peter Gammons has emptied both barrels, paused to reload, then emptied them again:

http://insider.espn.go.com/espn/blog/index?entryID=3508405&name=gammons_peter&action=upsell&appRedirect=http%3a%2f%2finsider.espn.go.com%2fesp n%2fblog%2findex%3fentryID%3d3508405%26name%3dgamm ons_peter

He wants 4/100? Seriously?

rolliefingers
07-28-2008, 06:52 PM
Yikes. I like Peter Gammons and I agree with him here, until he whips out this nugget:


Ortiz, Mike Lowell, Alex Cora and other players are trying to help Manny focus and play in Boston; he works out with Lowell and Cora regularly, and some days he listens as they try to get him to connect the dots between the concepts of performance and pay. Maybe it'll work, and even if they do not win the World Series, they can rationalize that what they got for eight years and $168M was a pair of world championships and years of sellouts. They can rationalize that Manny essentially was The Fens' version of "Damn Yankees," and they'd probably say it was worth it to sell their souls to end that 86-year thing. But the interest rate on those payments of $20M and their souls is getting a tad steep.

Oh, please. Two world championships and a nation full of merch-buying bandwagon fans wasn't worth it?

So, he's worn out his welcome. Big deal. Let him go try to find $100 million. But let's not overdramatize this. Everyone got what they wanted out of this transaction.

Ralph
07-30-2008, 10:22 AM
# Manny Ramirez entered the market on Sunday as more of a complicating factor than a real trade target. The Red Sox have made a lot of inquiries, most of them through back channels, to teams that would be willing to take Manny on, but they won't make the deal just to get rid of him. Discussions of three-way deals involving the Dodgers and Braves seemed to fit this pattern, but no one would confirm these discussions. There's a lot of conflicting reports, but the fact is that very few teams could take on Ramirez and return the kind of even-up players that the Sox would need to make the deal. One good source told me that he had heard that the Marlins were involved, willing to give up Jeremy Hermida and Boston-area product Jeff Allison, but I couldn't confirm this. I just don't see this deal getting done.
http://www.baseballprospectus.com/article.php?articleid=7876

TyCobb
07-30-2008, 10:38 AM
The Marlins are willing to trade Hermida? Why not send them Scott?

twoBshorty
07-30-2008, 04:32 PM
Apparently there is some really stupid rule that a player with 10-5 rights has to waive their no-trade rights 24 hours before a deal, which means that deadline for Manny passed about half an hour ago. And according to ESPN radio, he has indeed waived it.

Why in the world is that rule there for 10-5 players but players with just a no-trade clause can waive it minutes before the deadline? Huh?