Criss Angel Stunt Revealed...

[itsernst]

Ok..Ok...we all knew he was a fake. But, he was a fake who kept it under wraps for a long time...until now. Fox News went over some footage and completely ruined this guy...


Haha...too funny though; Someone in his crew was definitely fired after this awful stunt.

http://www.myfoxtampabay.com/myfox/pages/Home/Detail?contentId=7108115&version=5&locale=EN-US&layoutCode=TSTY&pageId=1.1.1

[The Wedge]

Good.

I hate that guy.

[scOtt]

I kinda like Angel, I like the whole genre, from Houdini on. Every illusion ever done, was just that, an illusion. (Besides some hidden or passed keys...) Like the Producer said while examining the video, Chris Angel himself debunks these kind of illusions (as did Houdini too...) and would probably respect them for doing it.

[The Wedge]

I kinda like Angel, I like the whole genre, from Houdini on. Every illusion ever done, was just that, an illusion. (Besides some hidden or passed keys...) Like the Producer said while examining the video, Chris Angel himself debunks these kind of illusions (as did Houdini too...) and would probably respect them for doing it.

No doubt.

I just don't like the guy...he screams douchebag to me.

[The Wedge]

Also, I really don't think magicians debunk others because they want it to be done to them. They do it to elevate themselves.

[itsernst]

Also, I really don't think magicians debunk others because they want it to be done to them. They do it to elevate themselves.

Right...Misery loves company :D

Angel had a large following, including pretty much being the only act at the Luxor in Vegas...so I think he will be ok. Still, I want him to rebuttal what the news station said.

[The Wedge]

Right...Misery loves company :D

Angel had a large following, including pretty much being the only act at the Luxor in Vegas...so I think he will be ok. Still, I want him to rebuttal what the news station said.

How dare you forget Carrot Top!?

[itsernst]

How dare you forget Carrot Top!?
That creepy steroid freak...man he looks weird.

[scOtt]

Also, I really don't think magicians debunk others because they want it to be done to them. They do it to elevate themselves.
I think Penn and Teller would disagree...


Well, I certainly think they do it to elevate themselves, but that they also would appreciate their own stuff being debunked. Personally, I'd love to know how they pulled off the Catching a Bullet in Your Teeth trick... :eektf:

[The Wedge]

I think Penn and Teller would disagree...


Well, I certainly think they do it to elevate themselves, but that they also would appreciate their own stuff being debunked. Personally, I'd love to know how they pulled off the Catching a Bullet in Your Teeth trick... :eektf:

Penn & Teller are a completely different beast, but at the same time, most magicians, if they're going to "break the code," debunk others to make themselves look smarter and more "authentic"...so when they get debunked themselves it tends to have a backlash effect.

That being said, I'm sure he'd have much preferred it if a young upstart would have "outed" him, not an eagle eyed production crew. Though to be fair, if I had have been watching that, the whole static thing would have been a red flag for me, that was pretty darn noticeable.

[itsernst]

Penn and Teller more than anything debunk stupid fads; Their show Bull$*** is so good because they completely make some of these people look like fools.

[scOtt]

Penn & Teller are a completely different beast, but at the same time, most magicians, if they're going to "break the code," debunk others to make themselves look smarter and more "authentic"...so when they get debunked themselves it tends to have a backlash effect.

That being said, I'm sure he'd have much preferred it if a young upstart would have "outed" him, not an eagle eyed production crew. Though to be fair, if I had have been watching that, the whole static thing would have been a red flag for me, that was pretty darn noticeable.
That's a good point. To be debunked by a local TV crew is pretty sad. :p

[scOtt]

BTW, this is the Magic Bullet trick I was refferring to: The modern day Masters (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T581uwoOYho)

Boggles my mind how they did this...

[scOtt]

Ha ha! I just watched this again and figured out how they did it!

Passed the bullet to the cable guy, behind the close-up cameraman. After that it's easy to pass it behind stage to Penn. The gun (with the smilie face drawn on the shell...) fires a blank, still strong enough to break the pane of glass.








:)

[itsernst]

Ha ha! I just watched this again and figured out how they did it!

Passed the bullet to the cable guy, behind the close-up cameraman. After that it's easy to pass it behind stage to Penn. The gun (with the smilie face drawn on the shell...) fires a blank, still strong enough to break the pane of glass.






:)





It is a very good trick; Angel had some mind boggling tricks as well...if you sat and reviewed it, you could very well figure them out.

[rooter]

Ha ha! I just watched this again and figured out how they did it!

Passed the bullet to the cable guy, behind the close-up cameraman. After that it's easy to pass it behind stage to Penn. The gun (with the smilie face drawn on the shell...) fires a blank, still strong enough to break the pane of glass.








:)
I don't think it's that simple... watch it again.

[scOtt]

No "GMC" initials on this bullet.... (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v340/if6was9/MagicBullet.jpg)

[scOtt]

Not to mention... those two cops... Air Force and Vegas' finest, have rarely if ever seen Teller's sleight-of-hand immaculatude!

[ScottieBaseball]

Penn & Teller are a completely different beast, but at the same time, most magicians, if they're going to "break the code," debunk others to make themselves look smarter and more "authentic"...so when they get debunked themselves it tends to have a backlash effect.

That being said, I'm sure he'd have much preferred it if a young upstart would have "outed" him, not an eagle eyed production crew. Though to be fair, if I had have been watching that, the whole static thing would have been a red flag for me, that was pretty darn noticeable.

Only to you and the rest of the A/V club. :D

To the rest of us? We'd have bought it.

[ScottieBaseball]

Not to mention... those two cops... Air Force and Vegas' finest, have rarely if ever seen Teller's sleight-of-hand immaculatude!

The difference between what Penn & Teller do and what Chris Angel does in my opinion? P&T do it on a stage before a live audience. Angel takes advantage of camera tricks and what appears to be paid "witnesses".

[itsernst]

Only to you and the rest of the A/V club. :D

To the rest of us? We'd have bought it.


Yeah...I didn't realize it at first, but as soon as she said it...i knew right away :D

[Mackus]

I took a class at Maryland about skeptical thinking mainly, and Penn actually is a friend of the professor and called in and talked to the class. He said that obviously the "magic bullet" trick was just that, a trick, and that neither him nor Teller were ever in any danger at all. He didn't give us any hints about how it was done though.

Most of the best "debunkers" of things like psychics, supernatural, faith-healers and things like that are magicians. They know exactly how to fool people into seeing what they want them to see, and are the best at showing people who actually try to steal money from honest people (faith-healers are on the same moral level as child molesters, IMO, stealing money from sick people who are easily deluded searching for hope and, even worse, sometimes convincing them that they are healed when they are not, leading them to stop treatment and ultimately succumb to whatever disease they are fighting).

Angel is pretty much the same beast as Penn and Teller. He did some interview last year busting Uri Gellar, who is the worst type of fraud. These guys are great. I have no idea how Angel does his tricks, but some of them are very impressive. I know its probably a little easier doing illusions on a tv show than on stage, but I'm sure he's a pretty darn solid stage magician as well, otherwise he never would've gotten the show.