August 3rd vs M's; going for the SWEEP!

[Big Mac]

Orioles

Roberts 2B
Payton CF
Markakis RF
Huff DH
Mora 3B
Millar 1B
Scott LF
Quiroz C
Cintron SS

SP- Daniel Cabrera (7-6, 4.81 ERA)

Mariners

Ichiro RF
Reed CF
Ibanez LF
Beltre 3B
Lopez 2B
Vidro DH
LaPhair 1B
Clement C
Betancourt SS

SP-Carlos Silva (4-12, 5.95 ERA)

[AVencill]

It's good to see that 67-year-old defensive stalwart Castro is not in the lineup, but a true shortstop in sort of his prime Cintron gets the start.

I'm a fan of this Sunday lineup as Jones and Hernandez get a day off, and that Fahey guy is on the bench too, can't forget him. Has Payton played in CF much this season?

Definitely need another solid outing by Cabrera, not a 3-inning, 7-run performance. Not against the M's.

[blueberryale77]

It's good to see that 67-year-old defensive stalwart Castro is not in the lineup, but a true shortstop in sort of his prime Cintron gets the start.

What about Cintron's arm, range, instincts, or reliability with the glove make him a true shortstop? Roberts, Mora, Jones and probably Jeremy Guthrie are all better shortstops than he is defensively. And no, that's not a compliment to any of them (except Guthrie since he's never actually played SS professionally).


I'm a fan of this Sunday lineup as Jones and Hernandez get a day off, and that Fahey guy is on the bench too, can't forget him. Has Payton played in CF much this season?

Only the few games Jones has gotten off - about half a dozen. You really can't afford to have him out there much more than that. With him being on the slow side for a CF plus getting poor jumps most of the time and Scott not being particularly speedy or good at tracking the ball in LF you have a big hole in left center, not to mention no hope of a throw successfully making it home from CF. As for the "Sunday lineup" I wish Trembley spread off days around more, particularly making use of the weekday day games if he wants to use day-after-night games to rest people. If you're only going to sit your catcher once a week (which is a bad idea in and of itself for a lot of reasons), no other offensive players should need to get their days off on the same day he does.


Definitely need another solid outing by Cabrera, not a 3-inning, 7-run performance. Not against the M's.

That's the understatement of the year. Hopefully he can build off what Guthrie and Olson have done the last two nights. Unfortunately, it seems to me like Daniel pitches better when they other starters have been struggling than when they're on a roll. That's probably just total coincidence though. I doubt he's really somehow able to focus better just because he knows the team desperately needs him to be a stopper. On the other hand, he's pitching on borrowed time since his suspension is on appeal, so maybe the injustice of all that will be added motivation for him.

[brvn52]

Could we win 2 straight Sunday games?:eek:

The pen should be rested. If we could get a solid 7 innings by DCab, that would be great for our pen! They've basically had a 3 day break. If we only make them 2 innings (plus 2/3 by Cormier) over a 4 day span, that would be huge for saving our pen.

[RShack]

Could we win 2 straight Sunday games?:eek:
Well, we could... we're about to find out...

And... the ump says "Play Ball!"...

[ledzepp8]

Anyone know what the deal is with the "My Oh My" on the infield?

[Sanfran327]

Anyone know what the deal is with the "My Oh My" on the infield?

I don't think they can believe how bad their team is.

[itsernst]

Ok...they tagged us for 2, time to shut um down and shweep um out the door!

[rooter]

That looked like Strike 3 on Reed to me. Changed the whole inning.

[mrbig1]

Oh no, I forgot Dcab was pitching today.

[blueberryale77]

Guys, appeal at third! The M's broadcast showed Reed's foot simultaneously with the catch and he very clearly left before the ball was in the glove! :angryfire:

The Orioles NEVER appeal that the runner left early on sac flies and I think teams are aware of this because they tend to leave early against us.

[SilentJames]

<img src=http://seattle.mariners.mlb.com/sea/images/promotions/y2008/08Dave_new.jpg></img>

Dave Neihaus day.

Boy, did Danny get hosed on Reed's AB or what? 2-0 M's

O's coming to bat.

[ledzepp8]

I don't think they can believe how bad their team is.

Sorry Sanfran...no more rep to give out.:laughlol:

[fansince71]

Anyone know what the deal is with the "My Oh My" on the infield?

Tribute to their just inducted Hall of Fame announcer Dave Niehaus

[Sanfran327]

Huff has certainly been on the fortunate end of the dying quails this year.

[mrbig1]

Huff is just unreal.

[Sanfran327]

Guys, appeal at third! The M's broadcast showed Reed's foot simultaneously with the catch and he very clearly left before the ball was in the glove! :angryfire:

The Orioles NEVER appeal that the runner left early on sac flies and I think teams are aware of this because they tend to leave early against us.

Because that's bush league. It never gets over turned, and it's just annoying to sit through. We didn't even do that in Babe Ruth.

[SilentJames]

Because that's bush league. It never gets over turned, and it's just annoying to sit through. We didn't even do that in Babe Ruth.

I have seen it get overturned - but you could just throw over there and touch third to see.

It is not bush league if you are right.

[mrbig1]

Let's go big Luke.

[SilentJames]

LUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUKE

Breaks the 0-15 slum with an RBI single

2-1

[mrbig1]

2-1 Good job for Luke.

[SilentJames]

GQ!

Game Tying Double!

2-2

[Sanfran327]

Wow... Guillermo esta en fuego.

[mrbig1]

2-2. Tie game.:clap3:

[AgentOrange]

Well that was unlucky.

[blueberryale77]

Because that's bush league. It never gets over turned, and it's just annoying to sit through. We didn't even do that in Babe Ruth.

No, leaving the base before the ball is caught is Bush League. I have seen plays overturned in the Majors before, as they should be when the guy's two steps toward home when the ball hits the glove. Leaving early is cheating and it's the other team's responsibility to put pressure on the umps to keep them honest.

[SilentJames]

OOOOOOOO, bit of bad luck there, Cintron SMOKES a liner right to Beltre about two steps from the bag, Luke doubled up.

2-2

We are hitting Silva, this is good.

[HeatherC12]

Quiroz is hitting again!? That guy needs to play more often if he's going to be hitting well when he gets the opportunties. :clap:

Go O's!! :D

[blueberryale77]

See what happens when you play a SS who can hit the ball like he's not swinging a rolled up newspaper? Only bad things.

[Pushmonkey]

I blame Samuel:cussing::angryfire:

[fansince71]

No, leaving the base before the ball is caught is Bush League. I have seen plays overturned in the Majors before, as they should be when the guy's two steps toward home when the ball hits the glove. Leaving early is cheating and it's the other team's responsibility to put pressure on the umps to keep them honest.

I have to agree with San here, it never gets overturned unless the runner flat out misses or leaves way to early.

[SilentJames]

I blame Samuel:cussing::angryfire:

YES! How DARE he instruct Luke to take a LEAD!!!!

FIRE HIM!

[Sanfran327]

See what happens when you play a SS who can hit the ball like he's not swinging a rolled up newspaper? Only bad things.

If I wasn't so sure this was a joke...

[SilentJames]

NICE K from Danny, 2 batters 6 pitches.

2 down.

[SilentJames]

3 batters
11 pitches
3 outs

2-2

[Pushmonkey]

NICE K from Danny, 2 batters 6 pitches.

2 down.

Thats the type of inning to have after tying the game!:clap3:

[blueberryale77]

YES! How DARE he instruct Luke to take a LEAD!!!!

FIRE HIM!

Is it just me, or does Luke have an extraordinarily slow first step when he starts running? On that play it looked like he was in quicksand. I'm not saying the play was Samuel's fault, but perhaps he should be aware of a weakness like that in a runner and instruct him to take shorter leads than other runners.

[SilentJames]

We are just joking about Samuel. And yes Luke does have a slow first step. That is why Payton comes in late in the game in left.

[SilentJames]

ROBERTS HR!!

3-2 Orioles

[LA2]

Is it just me, or does Luke have an extraordinarily slow first step when he starts running? On that play it looked like he was in quicksand. I'm not saying the play was Samuel's fault, but perhaps he should be aware of a weakness like that in a runner and instruct him to take shorter leads than other runners.

Quiroz's and G. Olson's first steps are even slower! They look like they're spinning their wheels in sand until about the third step.

[blueberryale77]

I saw that HR coming when the catcher set up inside. This is what happens to pitchers against Brian when they get an umpire who didn't get the memo about the strike zone being an extra 8 inches wider against guys mentioned in the Mitchell Report.

[SilentJames]

It is a full house in Seatle and you can hear a PIN DROP!

[Pushmonkey]

It's ok Blue Stop drooling over that HR!

[fansince71]

Wow nick should of been all over that inside fastball, same one Brob hit out.

[blueberryale77]

Quiroz's and G. Olson's first steps are even slower! They look like they're spinning their wheels in sand until about the third step.

I meant for a guy who has close to average speed once he gets going (and is used to running the bases).

[fansince71]

Huff is just ripping everything.....oops as he strkes out

[SilentJames]

Markakis and Huff go down looking at pretty pitches.

3-2 Birds

[Pushmonkey]

Markakis and Huff go down looking at pretty pitches.

3-2 Birds

Just trying to get the fans into the game.

[blueberryale77]

Interesting. Miller's strike zone seems to be a few inches to the left (his right) of most umpires'. He definitely calls more pitches on the inside to lefties and fewer on the outside. That definitely worked to Brian's advantage, but Nick and Aubrey need to make the adjustment next time up.

[Sanfran327]

I'm gonna make crab cakes for dinner tonight, but i've never made them before. What are some of your favorite ingredients??

[blueberryale77]

If Jones had been in CF Betancourt would have just run into an out.

[SilentJames]

If Jones had been in CF Betancourt would have just run into an out.

Yeah, Jones and his sore foot

[SilentJames]

SAC FLY ties the game

3-3

two down

[Pushmonkey]

I'm gonna make crab cakes for dinner tonight, but i've never made them before. What are some of your favorite ingredients??

crab.:scratchchinhmm:

[HeatherC12]

WEEEE! I love when Brian hits a HR!!! :clap:

Yeah I know, delayed reaction but I'm not watching the game so I have an excuse, LOL :laughlol:

[Sanfran327]

crab.:scratchchinhmm:

Well. I guess I pretty much walked right into that one, didn't I?

[cindyluvsbrady]

Dumb mariner fan:angryfire::cussing:

[SilentJames]

Wow O's got hosed on that one.

[itsernst]

Close call...can't really blame DT for not escalating that.

[cindyluvsbrady]

WEEEE! I love when Brian hits a HR!!! :clap:

Yeah I know, delayed reaction but I'm not watching the game so I have an excuse, LOL :laughlol:

My excuse is the phone:eek:
I LOVE MY PERFECT ONE:hearts::2yay-thumb::clap::wedge:

[VeveJones007]

No way that ball was fair. They showed the replay right down the line on mlb.tv and you can clearly see dirt in between the ball and the line. How does an umpire blow that from right on top of the ball?

[itsernst]

My excuse is the phone:eek:
I LOVE MY PERFECT ONE:hearts::2yay-thumb::clap::wedge:

With all the smilies you use...it looks like a band.

[blueberryale77]

Dumb mariner fan:angryfire::cussing:

Dumb umpire is more like it. That ball landed foul.

Also, it appears that Captain Kirk has heard my rants about him not backing up his players. He's been out arguing two games in a row now. :D

[cindyluvsbrady]

I'm gonna make crab cakes for dinner tonight, but i've never made them before. What are some of your favorite ingredients??

Do you have a recipe?
Is it lump crab meat?

[longflyball]

I saw that HR coming when the catcher set up inside. This is what happens to pitchers against Brian when they get an umpire who didn't get the memo about the strike zone being an extra 8 inches wider against guys mentioned in the Mitchell Report.

This is the first I've heard of this. Though I'm not surprised I'm hearing it first from you. Do you really believe it?

[blueberryale77]

My excuse is the phone:eek:
I LOVE MY PERFECT ONE:hearts::2yay-thumb::clap::wedge:

That is no excuse. There are no phones when PERFECT ONE is at bat.

[SilentJames]

NICE recovery from Danny.
K's Beltre to end the inning

3-3

[cindyluvsbrady]

Dumb umpire is more like it. That ball landed foul.

Also, it appears that Captain Kirk has heard my rants about him not backing up his players. He's been out arguing two games in a row now. :D

Blind dumb ump:angryfire:
Who is Capt Kirk?:confused:

[Sanfran327]

Do you have a recipe?
Is it lump crab meat?

No recipie. Just going on instincts and knowing what I like. I went to Faidley's the last time I was in Bmore. I love crabcakes and that place was like my Graceland.

Yeah, lump crab meat. Probably going to get a tub of it from the seafood counter at Giant. I know it's not ideal, but I should be able to track down some decent crab meat in VA.

[itsernst]

Do you have a recipe?
Is it lump crab meat?

Best recipe:

Lump Crab
Mayo
Mustard
Worchestershire Sauce
Old Bay
Egg
White Bread

[RShack]

Well. I guess I pretty much walked right into that one, didn't I?
Sure did ;-)

Lump crab meat... an egg, a little mayo, and a little bit of crushed-up saltines (just to form some glue)... some parsley, a little Old Bay... maybe a little cilantro... not much, mostly crab... which is why good ones cost a lot...

[cindyluvsbrady]

That is no excuse. There are no phones when PERFECT ONE is at bat.

True...I am ashamed:002_scry:

[cindyluvsbrady]

With all the smilies you use...it looks like a band.

LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:D

[cindyluvsbrady]

No way that ball was fair. They showed the replay right down the line on mlb.tv and you can clearly see dirt in between the ball and the line. How does an umpire blow that from right on top of the ball?

blindness and meaness:mad:

[Sanfran327]

Best recipe:

Lump Crab
Mayo
Mustard
Worchestershire Sauce
Old Bay
Egg
White Bread

Very close to what I was envisioning. Good stuff. Keep it coming, everyone!

[itsernst]

Very close to what I was envisioning. Good stuff. Keep it coming, everyone!

Bread and egg are used as glue...limit the bread...more crab meat.

[Sanfran327]

Sure did ;-)

Lump crab meat... an egg, a little mayo, and a little bit of crushed-up saltines (just to form some glue)... some parsley, a little Old Bay... maybe a little cilantro... not much, mostly crab... which is why good ones cost a lot...

Excellent. I was also thinking about the parsley and a touch of cilantro. Probably going to go with a chunk of french bread vs. saltines. I know this is blasphemy in the mid atlantic, but I'm not that keen on Old Bay. Never got into it. I'd be more prone to some paprika and a little celery salt.

By the way, you're right. Computers do what you tell them to, otherwise they'd do nothing.

[itsernst]

Excellent. I was also thinking about the parsley and a touch of cilantro. Probably going to go with a chunk of french bread vs. saltines. I know this is blasphemy in the mid atlantic, but I'm not that keen on Old Bay. Never got into it. I'd be more prone to some paprika and a little celery salt.

By the way, you're right. Computers do what you tell them to, otherwise they'd do nothing.

You can leave!

[cindyluvsbrady]

Very close to what I was envisioning. Good stuff. Keep it coming, everyone!

italian bread instead of white.

[cindyluvsbrady]

Excellent. I was also thinking about the parsley and a touch of cilantro. Probably going to go with a chunk of french bread vs. saltines. I know this is blasphemy in the mid atlantic, but I'm not that keen on Old Bay. Never got into it. I'd be more prone to some paprika and a little celery salt.

By the way, you're right. Computers do what you tell them to, otherwise they'd do nothing.

Why are you going to ruin $$$$$$$$$$$ crab meat?
You NEED old bay:eektf:

[Sanfran327]

Payton makes that play... sorry.

[SilentJames]

Luke just misses a bloop single, 2 out.

[longflyball]

Payton makes that play... sorry.

If he feels like it.

[blueberryale77]

This is the first I've heard of this. Though I'm not surprised I'm hearing it first from you. Do you really believe it?

All I know is, Brian is taking a LOT of called strikes that are low and well off the outside corner. Numerous at bats that would have been walks or good hitter's counts in the past are now called strikeouts or he's behind in the count and forced to swing at a bad pitch in that particular location. I can't say for sure that it's intentional, but in his case there definitely seems to be a pattern of umpires calling strikes well off the plate on the low outside corner when he bats left handed, and catchers setting up well outside the strike zone in that direction and still getting the calls. It's as if the pitchers know the strike zone is expanded right in that area. Someone posted a chart of pitches to different hitters and the results a couple of months ago that showed a clear and unusual pattern of low and outside called strikes against Roberts, but I lost the link (anybody know how to find it again?). I haven't really watched enough at bats to know if other players named in the scapegoat report are having similar problems, so that part is just my troublemaking nature... although I wouldn't be shocked if that had something to do with it.

The really odd thing, however, is that as far as I can tell this is only happening when Brian hits left handed. He's getting a relatively fair strike zone from the right side and having by far his best year ever as a righty hitter (.306/.380/.496), which masks the problems he's having from the left side (.278/.363/.457) a little bit. The shift in his splits has been pretty profound, and as someone who does watch his at bats very carefully, the called strikes low and outside are a major part of his reduced BA and OBP from the left side.

[cindyluvsbrady]

Bread and egg are used as glue...limit the bread...more crab meat.

that is true!!!!!!
Maybe you should buy frozen crab cakes:eektf:Giant sells Phillips ones:eektf:

[blueberryale77]

Excellent. I was also thinking about the parsley and a touch of cilantro. Probably going to go with a chunk of french bread vs. saltines. I know this is blasphemy in the mid atlantic, but I'm not that keen on Old Bay. Never got into it. I'd be more prone to some paprika and a little celery salt.

By the way, you're right. Computers do what you tell them to, otherwise they'd do nothing.

Aren't those the two main ingredients in Old Bay? Maybe you should try the reduced sodium Old Bay. I actually like it better than the original.

[RShack]

I know this is blasphemy in the mid atlantic, but I'm not that keen on Old Bay. Never got into it. I'd be more prone to some paprika and a little celery salt.
Old Bay is mainly just salt, pepper, cayenne pepper and paprika.


By the way, you're right. Computers do what you tell them to, otherwise they'd do nothing.
Yeah. People think they're smart but they're inherently stupid.
If they were smart, they'd know what you meant to tell them to do ;-)

[cindyluvsbrady]

Go Daniel:clap3:
I love Daniel!!!!!!!:)

[blueberryale77]

Payton makes that play... sorry.

I have seen him miss some pretty similar ones. Plus, how many times have you seen Payton have an easy assist chance and miss the base by 10 feet or more and thought "Scott (or anyone else but Johnny Damon) would've nailed that guy"?

[Sanfran327]

I have seen him miss some pretty similar ones. Plus, how many times have you seen Payton have an easy assist chance and miss the base by 10 feet or more and thought "Scott (or anyone else but Johnny Damon) would've nailed that guy"?

I don't think Scott has a very strong arm at all. As a matter of fact, He's one of the guys, along with OJ Payton, that kind of make me wonder why they play professional baseball in the first place. At least Scott can hit for power. Payton is not a good player at all. He's just sort of fast. Probably explains why he's the 4th outfielder on a last place team.

[Sanfran327]

that is true!!!!!!
Maybe you should buy frozen crab cakes:eektf:Giant sells Phillips ones:eektf:

Eh, I think I'm gonna give it a shot. I've been wanting to add fried chicken and crab cakes to my repitoire. I'll let you know what happens though.

[cindyluvsbrady]

How dare they get My Perfect One:hearts:out!!!!!:mad:

[blueberryale77]

I don't think Scott has a very strong arm at all. As a matter of fact, He's one of the guys, along with OJ Payton, that kind of make me wonder why they play professional baseball in the first place. At least Scott can hit for power. Payton is not a good player at all. He's just sort of fast. Probably explains why he's the 4th outfielder on a last place team.

Scott doesn't have a particularly strong arm, but it's relatively accurate at least by comparison.

[L.D.Blair]

Eh, I think I'm gonna give it a shot. I've been wanting to add fried chicken and crab cakes to my repitoire. I'll let you know what happens though.

When you are through adding fried chicken and crab cakes, work on your spelling, please.

[BRob51]

Has anyone else realized that Huff is batting .305? That's higher than Roberts, Markakis, and Ichiro. I guess he's like a good hitter or something...

[JTrea81]

C'mon Millar knock Markakis in...

[JimDH]

Left Field Inn GS G PO A E DP .985 *2.09
-----------+----+---+---+----+----+---+---+-----+-----
LScott 604 72 75 148 2 1 0 .993 2.23
JPayton 376 38 65 124 2 0 1 1.000 3.01


This is just stats for this season. I see one player with much better stats anyway you look at it.

[JTrea81]

Way to go Kevin! :clap3:

[SilentJames]

C'mon Millar knock Markakis in...

That will do nicely.

It is amazing how quiet it is in Seattle

4-3 O's

[L.D.Blair]

Has anyone else realized that Huff is batting .305? That's higher than Roberts, Markakis, and Ichiro. I guess he's like a good hitter or something...

But, he is still trailing the immortal Bryan LaHair (.316)!

[steveox]

ATTA BOY MILLAR!!! High 5s everyoner in room

[SilentJames]

Another K for Danny.

Number 6 for today.

1 out.

[steveox]

You need a bigger glove mora:rolleyestf:

[steveox]

****! :mad:

[JTrea81]

And there goes the lead over the fence... :(

[itsernst]

DCab has 6 K's...first time he has had over 5 in a while.

[JTrea81]

Time to get that lead back boys! Go O!

[cindyluvsbrady]

Time to get that lead back boys! Go O!

Yup!:)
I will be in Maine soon. Aug 14 to 19th:)
Think I will be killed by red sux nation?:rolleyestf:

[SilentJames]

Down the line hit the foul pole, tie game

4-4

booo-urns

[L.D.Blair]

Yup!:)
I will be in Maine soon. Aug 14 to 19th:)
Think I will be killed by red sux nation?:rolleyestf:

Hey Cindy! I'm going to be in Bel Air next weekend. Friday-Saturday-Sunday. Is there a cute little B&B in town? Like maybe on Bond Street?

[JTrea81]

Yup!:)
I will be in Maine soon. Aug 14 to 19th:)
Think I will be killed by red sux nation?:rolleyestf:

Not in Maine Cindy. I just saw a guy wearing an O's hat last night in the parking lot of our Barnes and Noble here.

You might get a funny look if you are wearing O's gear, but that's about it...

[blueberryale77]

Yup!:)
I will be in Maine soon. Aug 14 to 19th:)
Think I will be killed by red sux nation?:rolleyestf:

Where in Maine? I'm jealous, even though Asheville is kind of like Maine without the Ocean.

[JTrea81]

Silva's supposed to suck. What happened?

[Mark Carver]

Silva's supposed to suck. What happened?

It's Sunday and Orioles are playing...

[JTrea81]

Better PH Jones here DT...

[RZNJ]

Silva's supposed to suck. What happened?

He does. 4 runs in 6 IP is just about what his ERA is. Nobody questioning why Cintron wasn't bunting?

[RShack]

Asheville is kind of like Maine without the Ocean.
... and the black flies... and the winter...

[blueberryale77]

BRob with three straight full counts against Silva, resulting in a homer, a single and a fairly well hit fly out. Also 3 homers and 16 hits off him career. He :hearts: Silva more than Cindy and I :hearts: him.

[cindyluvsbrady]

Hey Cindy! I'm going to be in Bel Air next weekend. Friday-Saturday-Sunday. Is there a cute little B&B in town? Like maybe on Bond Street?

Hmm..I am not sure:eektf:I will be happy to try to get some info for you:)
Why are you comming to Bel Air? You should go see My Ironbirds:):clap3:

[JTrea81]

Should have PH Jones...

[cindyluvsbrady]

BRob with three straight full counts against Silva, resulting in a homer, a single and a fairly well hit fly out. Also 3 homers and 16 hits off him career. He :hearts: Silva more than Cindy and I :hearts: him.

Thats immposible:eektf:
I love My Perfect One:hearts:THE MOST:clap3::wedge:

[RZNJ]

Should have sacrificed with Cintron and had Roberts running with Payton up. Of course, it's tough to run when "thou shalt not pass" Payton up.

[L.D.Blair]

Hmm..I am not sure:eektf:I will be happy to try to get some info for you:)
Why are you comming to Bel Air? You should go see My Ironbirds:):clap3:

Yep. Coming to see the Ironbirds. I've been doing the tour this summer. Keys, home and away, Shorebirds, home and away, Baysox, Tides.

This weekend. The Ironbirds. Section 100. Row A. Really lookiing forward to that.

I grew up in Bel Air, usually find myself up that way every couple of years.

[cindyluvsbrady]

Not in Maine Cindy. I just saw a guy wearing an O's hat last night in the parking lot of our Barnes and Noble here.

You might get a funny look if you are wearing O's gear, but that's about it...

Thanks Jtrea:)
My son will wear his Kevin Millar hat:D
We will wear only O clothing at all times:)

[HeatherC12]

BRob with three straight full counts against Silva, resulting in a homer, a single and a fairly well hit fly out. Also 3 homers and 16 hits off him career. He :hearts: Silva more than Cindy and I :hearts: him.

I guess I'm either invisible or not fangirly enough here anymore to be counted in that paragraph, LOL :laughlol: :eektf: :rofl:

[RZNJ]

The bullpen is rested. Let's use it. Why wait for Cabrera to inevitably get into trouble this inning?

[cindyluvsbrady]

Yep. Coming to see the Ironbirds. I've been doing the tour this summer. Keys, home and away, Shorebirds, home and away, Baysox, Tides.

This weekend. The Ironbirds. Section 100. Row A. Really lookiing forward to that.

I grew up in Bel Air, usually find myself up that way every couple of years.

What game?
I will be at next Sundays Ironbird game:):clap3:
You can see My boy Tyler:):clap3:I love him!

[L.D.Blair]

What game?
I will be at next Sundays Ironbird game:):clap3:
You can see My boy Tyler:):clap3:I love him!

Saturday night.

[cindyluvsbrady]

I guess I'm either invisible or not fangirly enough here anymore to be counted in that paragraph, LOL :laughlol: :eektf: :rofl:

You can love him
but I love him THE MOST;)

[JTrea81]

Not so sure if I like Cabrera being left in here...

[cindyluvsbrady]

Saturday night.

K
I will get back to you:)

[JTrea81]

A DP would be ideal right now...

[RZNJ]

Not so sure if I like Cabrera being left in here...

I was sure 4 posts ago. He shouldn't be allowed to face Betancourt either. Bad control and bad fielder.


Trembley lost the game by poor decision making this inning.


3 batters too late Dave! Pitiful.

[JTrea81]

Yank him, yank him, yank him.... :eektf:

[JTrea81]

Walker? Are you kidding me?

Trembley are you serious? :eektf:

[BRob51]

Is a line-out triple play too much to hope for?

[blueberryale77]

I guess I'm either invisible or not fangirly enough here anymore to be counted in that paragraph, LOL :laughlol: :eektf: :rofl:

You are invisible. You had what, one post in this thread prior to this? ;) Plus usually you are a bit more calm and rational about your fangirlyness... which is NOT a bad thing!

That and I LOVE BRIAN MORE THAN YOU DO! :mwahaha::laughlol:

[RZNJ]

Walker? Are you kidding me?

Trembley are you serious? :eektf:

IIRC, two LHB's led off the inning with Walker warming up. So now, with the bases loaded, he brings him in. :eek:


And Ichiro is 6-15 lifetime against Walker. Trembley? Trembley? What happened to your brain?

[L.D.Blair]

Walker? Are you kidding me?

Trembley are you serious? :eektf:

I was kind of hoping for Cormier. Tire him out good, today, so there's no chance of him starting on Tuesday.

[Juanvald]

Wow great managing by Trembely. Lets see, in the last 3 days, bullpen has been used for a whopping 2/3 of an inning. So why even let Cabrera come out for the 7th. The minute he walked the first guy, he should have been pulled. Without a major miracle, the Sunday blues are going to be back.

[blueberryale77]

Danny being Danny gets taken out. Now lets hope Jamie decides to be last year Jamie instead of this year Jamie.

[El Gordo]

Walker? Are you kidding me?

Trembley are you serious? :eektf:You want a LHRp in here right? What other choices do we have, Castilla?

[AgentOrange]

Wow, what the hell was that?

[PurpleHaze]

Is a line-out triple play too much to hope for?

I will be happy for them to get out of this inning without giving up more than two runs. :o

[blueberryale77]

WTF Cintron?! How in the blazes do you miss that? He has got to be the worst shortstop ever. Playing with him has to be incredibly frustrating for Brian. :angryfire:

[El Gordo]

Killed again by bad D at SS. But hey, that's OK all that matters is the OPS. right?

[AgentOrange]

WTF Cintron?! How in the blazes do you miss that? He has got to be the worst shortstop ever. Playing with him has to be incredibly frustrating for Brian. :angryfire:

Are you kidding me? That was a pretty bad throw.

[JTrea81]

WTF Cintron?! How in the blazes do you miss that? He has got to be the worst shortstop ever. Playing with him has to be incredibly frustrating for Brian. :angryfire:

All our SS's are the worst SS ever. At this point, I'm ready for them to have Bordick unretire and give it a shot...

[cindyluvsbrady]

WTF Cintron?! How in the blazes do you miss that? He has got to be the worst shortstop ever. Playing with him has to be incredibly frustrating for Brian. :angryfire:

I agree!
Poor Brian:(

[RShack]

It's good to see that 67-year-old defensive stalwart Castro is not in the lineup, but a true shortstop in sort of his prime Cintron gets the start.
You know we have a record of stuff you say, right?
;-)

I can't believe that Buck was making excuses for Cintron. "Awkward angle, handcuffed him". Jeez... what BS...

[JTrea81]

And here comes the big inning...

[blueberryale77]

Wow, what the hell was that?

Cintron dropping the ball because he was jealous that Brian has the range to get to more balls on the SS side of the bag than he does? :laughlol:

Seriously, I have NO idea how he missed that throw. It was right at his abdomen and he didn't even get his glove close to it. It looked like the ball just hit him in the stomach.

[cindyluvsbrady]

My blood pressure just shot thru the ROOF:eek::(

[AgentOrange]

Killed again by bad D at SS. But hey, that's OK all that matters is the OPS. right?

I don't see how you could think that was bad D from the SS. He had his hand at chest level, with his palm up. He would have had to flip his glove down and catch it around his knee.

That was a tough tough catch for Cintron.

[fansince71]

Are you kidding me? That was a pretty bad throw.

Huh? it was right to him

[JTrea81]

The Sunday curse lives again...

[blueberryale77]

Poor Brian is sacrificing his body over and over for a whole lotta nothing this inning. :(

[El Gordo]

Are you kidding me? That was a pretty bad throw.What game are you watching? That throw was right in his gut.

[cindyluvsbrady]

Cintron dropping the ball because he was jealous that Brian has the range to get to more balls on the SS side of the bag than he does? :laughlol:

Seriously, I have NO idea how he missed that throw. It was right at his abdomen and he didn't even get his glove close to it. It looked like the ball just hit him in the stomach.

You are right about the jealous part!!:)

[Peace21]

Atleast our starters are going the distance, or trying to.

[blueberryale77]

Are you kidding me? That was a pretty bad throw.

Are you talking about the previous play where Brian tried to flip it to him with his glove? How can a ball that hits him right in the middle of his body be a bad throw? :confused:

[RZNJ]

What game are you watching? That throw was right in his gut.

It wasn't a perfect throw but it was certainly good enough. For whatever reason, Cintron didn't even see it. He just didn'nt react at all to the ball. Some great defense by Roberts this inning but no payoff. The glove flip didn't work too well on the other play where he had enough time to take it with is bare hand and flip it.

[JTrea81]

Sorry scouts, that Walker wasn't too impressive, but you might like this Chad Bradford we have as well.

[AgentOrange]

Cintron dropping the ball because he was jealous that Brian has the range to get to more balls on the SS side of the bag than he does? :laughlol:

Seriously, I have NO idea how he missed that throw. It was right at his abdomen and he didn't even get his glove close to it. It looked like the ball just hit him in the stomach.

I just re-watched it.

He was running towards the bag, with his back to the bag. He had his glove at his chest ready to catch the ball. He couldn't get a feel for the bag from the angle he had to take to get there. As soon as he glanced down for a split second, was the same time Roberts threw the ball. And he threw it with a little mustard for how close they were and it was coming in at a downward motion.

Very tough play for both of them. I don't really think anyone was at fault.

[ledzepp8]

What game are you watching? That throw was right in his gut.

Yeah I think Cintron just must have lost the ball because he never even moved his glove. I don't know how else you could explain it other than he just couldn't see it.:confused:

[cindyluvsbrady]

I will brb:oI dont want to go to the hospital:(

[RShack]

Are you kidding me? That was a pretty bad throw.


That was a tough tough catch for Cintron.
Hello? The ball *bounced* off of Cintron's freaking belt buckle. Jeez...

[AgentOrange]

Are you talking about the previous play where Brian tried to flip it to him with his glove? How can a ball that hits him right in the middle of his body be a bad throw? :confused:

He didn't throw it anywhere close to where Cintron's glove was, and if you read my last post, you will understand why he didn't catch the ball.

[JimDH]

Win or lose try to remember that all Walker allowed was a chopper and a grounder.

[AgentOrange]

Hello? The ball *bounced* off of Cintron's freaking belt buckle. Jeez...

Use your DVR and re-watch the play. You will see him look down the second Roberts throws the ball. With how hard he threw it, and where he threw it compared to where Cintron was set up to catch the ball, the play didn't have a chance. It was bad timing.

[mrbig1]

need a DP now.

[fansince71]

He didn't throw it anywhere close to where Cintron's glove was, and if you read my last post, you will understand why he didn't catch the ball.

He must of lost it in the lights somehow cause that throw was right to him. Those dumb looking sunglasses im sure didnt help either.

[blueberryale77]

You are right about the jealous part!!:)

Roberts and Cintron have the same number of errors... and Roberts has played 6 times as many innings.

[AgentOrange]

He must of lost it in the lights somehow cause that throw was right to him. Those dumb looking sunglasses im sure didnt help either.

Here you go, from my other post...


He was running towards the bag, with his back to the bag. He had his glove at his chest ready to catch the ball. He couldn't get a feel for the bag from the angle he had to take to get there. As soon as he glanced down for a split second, was the same time Roberts threw the ball. And he threw it with a little mustard for how close they were and it was coming in at a downward motion.

[THELTSHOW]

Heck of a turn by Roberts

[blueberryale77]

He didn't throw it anywhere close to where Cintron's glove was, and if you read my last post, you will understand why he didn't catch the ball.

Cintron's glove was down at his side and he wasn't in position yet. On a close play like that you can't stand around and wait for the guy to get set to take a perfect throw. He threw it at the middle of his body where there should have been no question whether he'd be able to catch it or not. A major league shortstop has to be able to catch that ball, period.

[fansince71]

Here you go, from my other post...

Glanced down for a sec:confused: Hard to tell if he glanced down when he's wearing sunglasses. Either way i think the majority thinks he should of caught it.

[Pushmonkey]

Cintron's glove was down at his side and he wasn't in position yet. On a close play like that you can't stand around and wait for the guy to get set to take a perfect throw. He threw it at the middle of his body where there should have been no question whether he'd be able to catch it or not. A major league shortstop has to be able to catch that ball, period.

We have 4 on the roster you would think one could catch.

[JTrea81]

Even though we are behind, I expect to see Sherrill in the 8th to get some work...

[AgentOrange]

Cintron's glove was down at his side and he wasn't in position yet. On a close play like that you can't stand around and wait for the guy to get set to take a perfect throw. He threw it at the middle of his body where there should have been no question whether he'd be able to catch it or not. A major league shortstop has to be able to catch that ball, period.

Anyone else but Brob throws that ball and you are not so quick to defend. IT is pretty obvious that you didn't re watch the play because I saw the damn thing happen. I saw Cintron look down for the bag to make sure he was in position at the same time Roberts threw the thing. It wasn't any one's fault there, it was a tough play for both of them and it wasn't made.

But to keep piling on Cintron here is getting old. He may make mistakes, but that was a tough play all around.

[JTrea81]

Way to be patient there Kevin... :cussing:

[L.D.Blair]

Even though we are behind, I expect to see Sherrill in the 8th to get some work...

Or Cormier, just to tire him out...

[Pushmonkey]

Anyone else but Brob throws that ball and you are not so quick to defend. IT is pretty obvious that you didn't re watch the play because I saw the damn thing happen. I saw Cintron look down for the bag to make sure he was in position at the same time Roberts threw the thing. It wasn't any one's fault there, it was a tough play for both of them and it wasn't made.

But to keep piling on Cintron here is getting old. He may make mistakes, but that was a tough play all around.

Fahey would have had it,.

[JTrea81]

Looks like it's JJ. He hasn't pitched in a few days either...

5 to be exact...

[AgentOrange]

Glanced down for a sec:confused: Hard to tell if he glanced down when he's wearing sunglasses. Either way i think the majority thinks he should of caught it.

I don't know what is so confusing about it. It is not hard to tell when his head goes down to look for the base at the time Roberts is throwing the ball.

I re watched the play in slow motion, but everyone still wants to pile on Cintron.

[RShack]

Use your DVR and re-watch the play. You will see him look down the second Roberts throws the ball. With how hard he threw it, and where he threw it compared to where Cintron was set up to catch the ball, the play didn't have a chance. It was bad timing.
Yes, my TIVO verified that the ball hit his belt buckle.
You're inventing difficulty out of nothing. Who cares where Cintron had his glove? This isn't target practice where BRob gets points for hitting the bullseye.

BRob somehow managed to make a toss that hit the guy in his freakin' belt buckle, and you're acting like it's some hard effort to catch it.
That's just goofy. I think he somehow didn't even see the ball. There was nothing hard about catching it.

[blueberryale77]

Use your DVR and re-watch the play. You will see him look down the second Roberts throws the ball. With how hard he threw it, and where he threw it compared to where Cintron was set up to catch the ball, the play didn't have a chance. It was bad timing.

I will give you this, the two of them do not have good timing or communication. However, Roberts is the far, far superior defensive (not to mention offensive) player, and has done quite a good job of adjusting to all the other shortstops they've run out there this year. He is clearly much more comfortable with all of Fahey, Castro, Hernandez, Bynum and even Eider Torres in his limited duty where he was playing out of position. He is also not the only second baseman to have communication problems with Alex Cintron in his career (a couple of Diamondbacks fans have posted things about him frequently getting into collisions or near-collisions, and he's had a couple with Roberts already). Cintron is slow getting into position, tentative, and just doesn't have good instincts or reflexes. He's a terrible excuse for a shortstop, and he keeps getting worse now that his physical abilities are starting to escape him. The solution is quite simple. Do not play Cintron at a position he can't play. In other words, don't play Cintron.

Sorry for the rant, I'm just so tired of disasters EVERY time he plays in the field!

[AgentOrange]

Yes, my TIVO verified that the ball hit his belt buckle.
You're inventing difficulty out of nothing. Who cares where Cintron had his glove? This isn't target practice where BRob gets points for hitting the bullseye.

BRob somehow managed to make a toss that hit the guy in his freakin' belt buckle, and you're acting like it's some hard effort to catch it.
That's just goofy. I think he somehow didn't even see the ball. There was nothing hard about catching it.

It is hard when you look down for the bag the same time the ball is thrown and it is not on target.

You guys are acting unreal at this point.

[blueberryale77]

Yes, my TIVO verified that the ball hit his belt buckle.
You're inventing difficulty out of nothing. Who cares where Cintron had his glove? This isn't target practice where BRob gets points for hitting the bullseye.

BRob somehow managed to make a toss that hit the guy in his freakin' belt buckle, and you're acting like it's some hard effort to catch it.
That's just goofy. I think he somehow didn't even see the ball. There was nothing hard about catching it.

He didn't. His glove barely moved until the second the ball made contact with him.

[JimDH]

Glanced down for a sec:confused: Hard to tell if he glanced down when he's wearing sunglasses. Either way i think the majority thinks he should of caught it.

Yes quite. That is what the majority think.
Looks like a tough play all around to me. Funky looking double pump and wierd play all over. Make plays like that and win more games. Miss them and you lose. Ozzie would have caught it.

[RZNJ]

It is hard when you look down for the bag the same time the ball is thrown and it is not on target.

You guys are acting unreal at this point.

It might be hard, but this is the major leagues. Sorry, but Cintron has to be ready to catch that ball.

[blueberryale77]

It is hard when you look down for the bag the same time the ball is thrown and it is not on target.

You guys are acting unreal at this point.

Yes, it is hard, but being a Major League shortstop is supposed to be hard. Cintron has shown over and over and over again that he's almost never up to the task. A bad play like that can happen every once in a while, but when it's the norm rather than the exception, you've gotta stop playing that guy at the most difficult position on the field.

[Pushmonkey]

Maybe Blake Davis can come up and play SS?

[AgentOrange]

It might be hard, but this is the major leagues. Sorry, but Cintron has to be ready to catch that ball.

Well I think he should have made the play, but everyone is acting like that was an easy play. It wasn't.

[RShack]

It is hard when you look down for the bag the same time the ball is thrown and it is not on target.

You guys are acting unreal at this point.
Oh, stop.
He's a ML SS, it's his job to know where 2B is, and to also know where he is in relation to it.
It's not like 2B is drawn on the dirt with invisible ink and he needed secret decoder glasses to find the dang thing.
Jeez...

[JTrea81]

That run should pretty much seal it. Flat Breezy has to get into tomorrow's game regardless. He's now gone 5 days without pitching...

[AgentOrange]

Oh, stop.
He's a ML SS, it's his job to know where 2B is, and to also know where he is in relation to it.
It's not like 2B is drawn on the dirt with invisible ink and he needed secret decoder glasses to find the dang thing.
Jeez...

You can share your opinion on the play, I will have mine.

Sure he knows where the bag is supposed to be and where he is playing. But that play, being behind second base, was a very tough one.

I mean hell, I am playing 2b right now in my league and I know how hard it is for BRob to get to those balls. He is a very good defensive second baseman. I just think that play was very tough for both players and it isn't as cookie cutter and everyone is making it out to be.

[blueberryale77]

What was with that DP? Cintron fielded the ball, came to a complete stop momentarily, ran a few steps toward 2B and then finally flipped it to Brian. I'm not quite sure how they managed to overcome that waste of time and still complete the DP. Beltre must not have been running hard. There is rarely even one play with Cintron where he manages to look like a competent, confident Major League SS.

[AgentOrange]

What was with that DP? Cintron fielded the ball, came to a complete stop momentarily, ran a few steps toward 2B and then finally flipped it to Brian. I'm not quite sure how they managed to overcome that waste of time and still complete the DP. Beltre must not have been running hard. There is rarely even one play with Cintron where he manages to look like a competent, confident Major League SS.

I don't know what trying to prove, but everyone here understands he is a below average SS.

But the flip didn't take as long as you are saying it did, and he was a perfect throw to Roberts. Cintron had to wait for the ball to get to him so that he could field the thing cleanly. It would have taken just as long for him to throw the ball overhand there.

[El Gordo]

Why is DT not PH'ing for Quiroz or Cintron?

[AgentOrange]

Why is DT not PH'ing for Quiroz or Cintron?


Who would you like to see up?

Maybe Jones really does need a day off?

[Pushmonkey]

Why is DT not PH'ing for Quiroz or Cintron?

Jones ankle is hurt..Hernandez---eh? Fahey? Castro?---great bench there

[Pushmonkey]

Who would you like to see up?

Maybe Jones really does need a day off?

X-rays taken on Jones' ankle today were inconclusive. The Orioles have scheduled a CT scan for tomorrow in Anaheim...Per Roch

http://masnsports.com/2008/08/updating-jones-and-tuesday-sta.html

[blueberryale77]

X-rays taken on Jones' ankle today were inconclusive. The Orioles have scheduled a CT scan for tomorrow in Anaheim...Per Roch

http://masnsports.com/2008/08/updating-jones-and-tuesday-sta.html

Well that's not good. We can't survive too many games with Payton in CF, Cintron at SS and Ramon at C (although he wasn't there today). Even if Brian were literally perfect, those three would guarantee us of having the worst up the middle defense in the history of baseball.

[Sanfran327]

When you are through adding fried chicken and crab cakes, work on your spelling, please.

Ernest Hemingway, everybody!

[L.D.Blair]

Excellent. I was also thinking about the parsley and a touch of cilantro. Probably going to go with a chunk of french bread vs. saltines. I know this is blasphemy in the mid atlantic, but I'm not that keen on Old Bay. Never got into it. I'd be more prone to some paprika and a little celery salt.

By the way, you're right. Computers do what you tell them to, otherwise they'd do nothing.

Martha Stewart, everybody!