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ChaosLex
08-06-2008, 12:17 PM
*begin rant*

I am so frakkin' sick of hearing about Brett Favre all the time. Please, tell me I'm not the only one. I mean, this is rapidly approaching TO levels.

And to Favre's suppporters out there, who claim Rodgers shown me thrown to the wayside and Favre should be welcomed back with open arms... HE RETIRED!!! Favre has no one to blame but himself for the way he's been "mistreated."

*end rant*

Spoonless
08-06-2008, 12:25 PM
I'm sure they're getting some mileage out of non-sports fans who like the Hollywood drama. The over-coverage is something you'd expect to see on E! or similar channels. I can only assume that Favre articles must be getting lots of hits on ESPN's site, which in turn indicates that people still want coverage of the situation.

NewMarketSean
08-06-2008, 12:41 PM
I am beyond sick of it too.

I understand that he still wants to play football because that is all he knows, but he should have thought it over more. And I agree... the Packers had every right to move on once he retired and still have that right now. If they didn't have a first round draft pick in Rodgers to take over, I am sure they would have welcomed him back but Rodgers is their guy and the time to move on is now.

Part of me hopes Favre gets traded to a place he doesn't want to go to like Tampa Bay. Maybe he should go end his career in Atlanta where he started it.

Anything to put this crap to bed.

Dipper9
08-06-2008, 02:31 PM
On the other hand, Jordan retired twice and kept coming back. Favre is a first ballot HOFamer. Its not like Kyle Boller retired and then came back. One more year of Favre has got to be better than Rodgers first year in the league. AND..if the Packers truly want Rodgers to start, then just trade Favre and get this over with.

Either way, I too am sick of hearing about this.

NewMarketSean
08-06-2008, 03:04 PM
On the other hand, Jordan retired twice and kept coming back. Favre is a first ballot HOFamer. Its not like Kyle Boller retired and then came back. One more year of Favre has got to be better than Rodgers first year in the league. AND..if the Packers truly want Rodgers to start, then just trade Favre and get this over with.

Either way, I too am sick of hearing about this.

I don't believe that is necessarily true, but regardless of whether it is or not, Rogers has to have his first year as starter at some point.

Bringing Favre back again would just be delaying it one more year, and that would be hugely unfair to Rogers IMO.

Dipper9
08-06-2008, 03:16 PM
I don't believe that is necessarily true, but regardless of whether it is or not, Rogers has to have his first year as starter at some point.

Bringing Favre back again would just be delaying it one more year, and that would be hugely unfair to Rogers IMO.

I agree, but the Pack is NOT in rebuild mode. They have a shot at winning now with Favre. Do they have that same shot with Rogers?:scratchchinhmm:

itsernst
08-06-2008, 03:26 PM
I agree, but the Pack is NOT in rebuild mode. They have a shot at winning now with Favre. Do they have that same shot with Rogers?:scratchchinhmm:

Apparently Favre is in the plans of Green Bay, they are saying he is Tampa Bound.

NewMarketSean
08-06-2008, 04:30 PM
Apparently Favre is in the plans of Green Bay, they are saying he is Tampa Bound.

Rogers looked fine to me when he came in against the Cowboys last season when Favre was knocked out. He actually performed better than Favre did that game.

Don't get me wrong, Favre is a HoF QB and a class act. He might even have a little left in the tank too. But to say he'd be hands down better than Rogers at this point in their respective careers is a bit much IMO.

ChaosLex
08-06-2008, 06:30 PM
Rogers looked fine to me when he came in against the Cowboys last season when Favre was knocked out. He actually performed better than Favre did that game.

Don't get me wrong, Favre is a HoF QB and a class act. He might even have a little left in the tank too. But to say he'd be hands down better than Rogers at this point in their respective careers is a bit much IMO.

I think that's debatable. IMO, this tired act has tarnished Favre's legacy.

ledzepp8
08-06-2008, 07:27 PM
I think that's debatable. IMO, this tired act has tarnished Favre's legacy.

Yep and it's a shame because watching Brett Favre as a kid was the reason I became a Packer fan. It didn't have to end this way but he's given the organization basically no other choice. Either way they look bad and it's not fair to the other players on the team.

ChaosLex
08-06-2008, 07:54 PM
Yep and it's a shame because watching Brett Favre as a kid was the reason I became a Packer fan. It didn't have to end this way but he's given the organization basically no other choice. Either way they look bad and it's not fair to the other players on the team.

I just bought a Favre jersey this past Christmas. *sigh*

rolliefingers
08-06-2008, 09:53 PM
Who knew that, all this time, inside Brett Favre, there was a petulant 16-year-old girl just screaming to get out?

cindyluvsbrady
08-07-2008, 08:09 AM
I am sicking of hearing about this too.
I do feel bad for the fans and I do not like football.....do not kill me:eektf:
Wouldnt this be like CAL wanting to come back and the Os sending him away?:confused:

Dipper9
08-07-2008, 08:27 AM
Ditka was on Mike and Mike this morning. He said the year Walter Payton retired, he drafted a running back in the first round. He went on to say that if Payton then had come to him and said he changed his mind and wanted back in, that he would have damned sure let him come back.

Bottom line, you don't turn your back on a HOFamer. You think if Ogden went to Bisciotti and said he wants in, you think the Ravens wouldn't pounce on him? The Pack screwed up here. Favre did have them hostage, I agree with that, but his number one choice was to come back to them. All they had to do was say, "Welcome back Brett!"

NewMarketSean
08-07-2008, 09:01 AM
Ditka was on Mike and Mike this morning. He said the year Walter Payton retired, he drafted a running back in the first round. He went on to say that if Payton then had come to him and said he changed his mind and wanted back in, that he would have damned sure let him come back.

Bottom line, you don't turn your back on a HOFamer. You think if Ogden went to Bisciotti and said he wants in, you think the Ravens wouldn't pounce on him? The Pack screwed up here. Favre did have them hostage, I agree with that, but his number one choice was to come back to them. All they had to do was say, "Welcome back Brett!"

Payton was also 33. Old for a RB, but still much younger than 39.

Mark Carver
08-07-2008, 09:33 AM
Ditka was on Mike and Mike this morning. He said the year Walter Payton retired, he drafted a running back in the first round. He went on to say that if Payton then had come to him and said he changed his mind and wanted back in, that he would have damned sure let him come back.

Bottom line, you don't turn your back on a HOFamer. You think if Ogden went to Bisciotti and said he wants in, you think the Ravens wouldn't pounce on him? The Pack screwed up here. Favre did have them hostage, I agree with that, but his number one choice was to come back to them. All they had to do was say, "Welcome back Brett!"

Correct me if I'm wrong, but the Packers would have welcomed him back. It's just that they wanted him to win the starting job, and that Favre would have none of that. He wanted to be the de-facto season starter.

ledzepp8
08-07-2008, 11:08 AM
Ditka was on Mike and Mike this morning. He said the year Walter Payton retired, he drafted a running back in the first round. He went on to say that if Payton then had come to him and said he changed his mind and wanted back in, that he would have damned sure let him come back.

Bottom line, you don't turn your back on a HOFamer. You think if Ogden went to Bisciotti and said he wants in, you think the Ravens wouldn't pounce on him? The Pack screwed up here. Favre did have them hostage, I agree with that, but his number one choice was to come back to them. All they had to do was say, "Welcome back Brett!"

I don't know what Ditka would actually do, but it's a lot easier to sit and say you'd do something one way when you're not actually and never actually will be in the position that the Packers were in.

I think the real bottom line is that if Brett really wanted to come back to the Packers, then he wouldn't have flip flopped on the decision 2-3 times this summer. He wouldn't have demanded to be the starter or released before he had even come out of retirement and when he finally did get reinstated and came to camp he would have actually competed for the job like he said he would. The thing that hasn't changed is that when Brett made his tearful retirement in March is that he said he couldn't mentally do it anymore which is the same thing he basically told Mike McCarthy yesterday. He wants to play, he just doesn't want to have to put in the actual work of learning the system, studying teams and game film, staying long hours, etc. He had returned to form last year but it took a great supporting cast and a rededication to working hard and doing all of those little things. He said at times last year it was the most mentally tough year for him ever and that was why he retired (originally). It doesn't really sound like things have changed, and he has basically less than a month to get into camp, get into shape, learn a new playbook, gel with a new group of players, etc. And if he fails, the scrutiny will be on him like it's never been on him before.

Dipper9
08-07-2008, 11:23 AM
Correct me if I'm wrong, but the Packers would have welcomed him back. It's just that they wanted him to win the starting job, and that Favre would have none of that. He wanted to be the de-facto season starter.

I believe the Packers said publicly that Favre could compete for the job, but them the coach told Favre there was NO open competition. So once again the Packers changed their story. It wasn't Favre saying he would not compete for the job.

Either way, both sides come out looking like arses in this whole thing.

ledzepp8
08-07-2008, 11:36 AM
I believe the Packers said publicly that Favre could compete for the job, but them the coach told Favre there was NO open competition. So once again the Packers changed their story. It wasn't Favre saying he would not compete for the job.

Either way, both sides come out looking like arses in this whole thing.

No it was Favre saying that he couldn't commit to doing the same stuff he had to do last season to be successful...all of the mental things. McCarthy couldn't commit to someone to lead the team that couldn't even commit to the team. No one ever said Brett couldn't compete for the job.

orayole
08-08-2008, 12:23 AM
The Packers are the ones that are dragging this all out. Everyone knew this was coming. Decide if you want Rogers to start or not. If you want Rogers then make calls to teams about trading Favre. The whole giving him money to stay retired is just ridiculous.


Correct me if I'm wrong, but the Packers would have welcomed him back. It's just that they wanted him to win the starting job, and that Favre would have none of that. He wanted to be the de-facto season starter.

Considering he just missed taking them to the Super Bowl I don't think there is anything wrong with that.


And for the record I've never been a big Favre fan. I've never been a fan at all actually.

cmcgarvey
08-08-2008, 01:40 AM
*begin rant*

I am so frakkin' sick of hearing about Brett Favre all the time. Please, tell me I'm not the only one.Build yourself a time machine and get yourself a job working in a bookstore in Wisconsin this past football season when he was on those SI covers.

Icterus galbula
08-08-2008, 04:10 PM
Does the tarnishing of his public image count as the Madden curse?