Aug 24 O's v. Yanks Avoid The Sweep

[THELTSHOW]

Cabrera v. Rasner

[McNulty]

I'm glad Ramon isn't in the lineup today. I need a break from him.

[THELTSHOW]

I'm glad Ramon isn't in the lineup today. I need a break from him.

Wieters can't come soon enough

[THELTSHOW]

1 down but that last fastball clocked in at 90 from DCab

[THELTSHOW]

Abreu is killing us this series, looks like the ump has a pretty small zone

[THELTSHOW]

Dear Ramon,

Thats how you block a 58 foot slider on the outside half of the plate.

[THELTSHOW]

Talking to myself, DCab gets out of the first unscathed.

[PaulFolk]

YANKEES:
Damon CF
Jeter SS
Abreu RF
A.Rodriguez 3B
Giambi 1B
Nady LF
Matsui DH
Cano 2B
I.Rodriguez C

Rasner P

ORIOLES:
Roberts 2B
Markakis RF
Mora 3B
Huff DH
Millar 1B
Montanez LF
Payton CF
Quiroz C
Castro SS

D.Cabrera P

[THELTSHOW]

Melmo is white hot

[THELTSHOW]

Bomb time baby, the ball is flyin at the yard today

[fansince71]

Epic abat right there by huff:clap3:

[Oriolesfan4life]

Huff Daddy!

Back-to-Back Jacks for the O's!

[PaulFolk]

The O's have hit back-to-back HRs five times this year.

Four of them have been against the Yankees.

[McNulty]

The O's have hit back-to-back HRs five times this year.

Four of them have been against the Yankees.

Wow. Baseball is a pretty cool game.

[zff4]

I long for the day when D-Cab succeeds in another uniform.

[vab]

He Has Nothing

[fansince71]

you wondered how long it would take for dcab to give the lead back:angryfire:

[PaulFolk]

Even the outs are smoked today. Cabrera is fooling absolutely no one.

[fansince71]

you wondered how long it would take for dcab to give the lead back:angryfire:

not long:cussing:

[dtk9119]

pathetic.... let the 4-32 slide begin.

[vab]

They need to sit down with this kid and find out if he's hurt. He's throwing straight fastballs at 89 mph. I know he's throttled back for more control but you don't throttle back that far. And look how many curve balls he's throwing.

[McNulty]

Even the outs are smoked today. Cabrera is fooling absolutely no one.

Is his velocity down? They just said on the radio that he just threw a fastball at 86 MPH.

[ledzepp8]

Palmer has got a point. Daniel has lost a lot of velocity on his pitches...perhaps something is wrong with him.

[THELTSHOW]

you have got to be kidding me. All of this stems from him getting into terrible counts then throwing get me over strikes that get HAMMERED. He was concerned about throwing strikes, so he tried to baby one over to Damon and hope for a take. The take ended up on the friggin flag court.

[fansince71]

looks like Cam , Cherrry and Bierd will get plenty of work today

[mdterps4life25]

Palmer said his fastball was down to 89 mph...just doesnt seem right. I wish he would just rear back n heave it in there like the old days.

[itsernst]

They need to sit down with this kid and find out if he's hurt. He's throwing straight fastballs at 89 mph. I know he's throttled back for more control but you don't throttle back that far. And look how many curve balls he's throwing.

His 2 seamer has alot of movement on it, but he leads with his fastball and they have been sitting on it first pitch.

[ledzepp8]

They need to sit down with this kid and find out if he's hurt. He's throwing straight fastballs at 89 mph. I know he's throttled back for more control but you don't throttle back that far. And look how many curve balls he's throwing.

Yep and even when he was dialing it back a bit for control...he could still light it up when he wanted to.

[vab]

His 2 seamer has alot of movement on it, but he leads with his fastball and they have been sitting on it first pitch.

The balls that are being crushed are not moving.

[fansince71]

Even when he dials it down he still walks everybody:mad:

[zff4]

...perhaps something is wrong with him.

a lot of uncharitable responses come to mind

[PaulFolk]

Is his velocity down? They just said on the radio that he just threw a fastball at 86 MPH.
Most of his fastballs today have been clocked at 89-90 mph.

[zff4]

Rasner will keep us in this game

[bobmc]

Go O's and sweet Lou to the rescue! B'day boy representin'...:D

[zff4]

Palmer just alluded that the O's have given up hope that D-Cab will ever improve.

[mrbig1]

Sorry I'm late. Go O's.

[mrbig1]

I hate Damon.:cussing:

[PaulFolk]

This game is breathtakingly slow. We're an hour and a half in, and it's only the top of the fourth. I'm at the game and I'm bored to tears.

Judging by the quiet game thread, a lot of other people are, too.

[fansince71]

Where did that pluck ARod? did it get him good:laughlol:

[mrbig1]

Please bring in the bullpen.

[fansince71]

Anybody warming?

[PaulFolk]

Anybody warming?
Sarfate has been warming for a while. I'm surprised he's not in right now.

[JTrea81]

I wish that would be Cabrera's last start in an Oriole uniform...

[mrbig1]

Sarfate has been warming for a while. I'm surprised he's not in right now.

He pulled Dcab way too late.

[PaulFolk]

He pulled Dcab way too late.
Yep. I was hoping Cabrera would be gone after the A-Rod plunking. If not, then certainly the Giambi near-grand-slam should've been the end of the line. There was no way he should've faced Nady.

[mrbig1]

Now we need 5 runs just to tie.

[fansince71]

Gotta wonder where Dcab will be next year

[mrbig1]

Gotta wonder where Dcab will be next year

It better not be here.:angryfire:

[mrbig1]

Good job Nick.

[PaulFolk]

OMG THIS GAME IS SO SLOW IT'S BEEN TWO HOURS AND IT'S ONLY THE FOURTH INNING WTF

Er...sorry. I'm getting a little punchy.

[mrbig1]

Bad news they pulled Rasner.

[mrbig1]

Big Huff daddy.:clap3:

[mrbig1]

Oh snap now it's 7-5.

[blueberryale77]

It must make Yankee fans crazy every time Johnny the Noodle Arm calls off Abreu on a fly ball with a runner on base. :boogie:

[zff4]

this is only the bottom of the 4th?

[mrbig1]

this is only the bottom of the 4th?

Suck it up brother.

[mrbig1]

Good bye brothers and Sisters. I have to go to my Mother-in-laws house.

[zff4]

Good bye brothers and Sisters. I have to go to my Mother-in-laws house.
suck it up brother

[THELTSHOW]

HOMERDOME!!!!! I got back just in time, franchise player tying stuff up!!!!

[JTrea81]

"That cute little guy" for the Yanks is now in...

And serves up a HR to Roberts! He is good hitting!

[THELTSHOW]

Pure bullpen game now

[blueberryale77]

"That cute little guy" for the Yanks is now in...

And serves up a HR to Roberts! He is good hitting!

Roberts showed some class by running around the bases like David Eckstein just to make sure nobody could accuse him of showing Ramirez up. :thumbsup1:

[THELTSHOW]

Roberts showed some class by running around the bases like David Eckstein just to make sure nobody could accuse him of showing Ramirez up. :thumbsup1:

That's Roberts in a nutshell, nothing but hitting and class :)

[THELTSHOW]

I really love having Palmer as a commentator, he is fantastic at diagnosing mechanical issues with pitchers.

[blueberryale77]

That's Roberts in a nutshell, nothing but hitting and class :)

...and fielding, and basestealing, and beautiful smiles... :hearts::002_sdrool::notworthy::002_scool:

[JTrea81]

Man, Nady is tough. Quite a battle here...

[THELTSHOW]

Sarfate is throwing GAS and has looked really comfortable ever since he's been back in the pen but good lord JWalk is up in the pen.

[JTrea81]

Sarfate is throwing GAS and has looked really comfortable ever since he's been back in the pen but good lord JWalk is up in the pen.

Walker in a tie game, ugh. You would have thought Trembley would have learned his lesson.

[zff4]

Man, it's like a light clicked on for Sarfate, he's bringing it. Dave better not pull him, it would be unconscionable.

[mrbig1]

Hey I'm back. I played sick.

[THELTSHOW]

Hey I'm back. I played sick.

Watching DCab pitch can make you want to do that

[JTrea81]

C'mon Huff Daddy!

[mrbig1]

suck it up brother

Ah, That's cold. You don't know my mother -in- law.

[THELTSHOW]

Huff is zoning right now, good swing going the other way

[JTrea81]

Ok Millar, time to show us what good hitting this cute little guy is...

[JTrea81]

D'oh c'mon Kevin...

Let's go Lou! :clap3:

Er LUUUUUUUKE!

[THELTSHOW]

Luuuuuuuuuuuuuuke

[zff4]

ok Luke is up, can you feel the excitement?

[mrbig1]

Good call to bring in Scott.

[THELTSHOW]

Great AB, come on Jay

[JTrea81]

It's up to Jay Payton now...

[mrbig1]

Don't let us down Payton.

[THELTSHOW]

It's up to Jay Payton now...


That always makes me feel good.:eek:

[THELTSHOW]

Eh, okay AB. He got into swing mode and chased a bad pitch

[JTrea81]

Payton swings at ball 2 and 3... :cussing:

[zff4]

wicked pitch there by Edwar, too bad. Now. Who's on the mound for us? Please be smart here Dave.

[jincargo]

I can't wait until Jay Payton is with another team.

[zff4]

noooooooooo!

[Mike B]

The peoples choice. Jamie Walker.

[mrbig1]

I can't wait until Jay Payton is with another team.

I hope he goes to the yankees so we can beat them.

[Mike B]

let the DT bashing begin.

[THELTSHOW]

Man I still can't understand why no contending teams want him????

[TonySoprano]

Damnit, Edge:angryfire:

[mrbig1]

Now I really am sick.:angryfire:

[JTrea81]

Nice to see Trembley cares more about draft position than we think... :thumbsup1: :laughlol:

[mdterps4life25]

Did anybody honestly expect the game to stay tied while Walker was in??

[zff4]

explain why Sarfate was pulled. Was he gassed? I don't understa...ah forget it

[blueberryale77]

Is anybody remotely surprised that just happened? My grandma has more left in her arm than Jamie Walker... and she's dead! :angryfire:

[Mike B]

explain why Sarfate was pulled. Was he gassed? I don't understa...ah forget it

He has pitched a lot the last week.

[mrbig1]

explain why Sarfate was pulled. Was he gassed? I don't understa...ah forget it

I feel your pain. In fact I was thinking the same thing.

[stef]

Did the Yankees pitch around Scott?

Seems like the obvious thing to do with Payton coming up.

[THELTSHOW]

DT is 0 for 2 now in manager moves for the day. Cintron is worthless

[JTrea81]

Did the Yankees pitch around Scott?

Seems like the obvious thing to do with Payton coming up.

I was thinking it might have been a good idea to let Lou hit and then PH Scott for Payton moving Lou to CF, but it's kinda hard to PH for a guy who has gone 3-3 on the day, though I knew Payton would fail...

[PaulFolk]

DT is 0 for 2 now in manager moves for the day. Cintron is worthless
This doesn't make any sense. There have only been 2 manager moves today? :confused:

[blueberryale77]

DT is 0 for 2 now in manager moves for the day. Cintron is worthless

Yup. Terrible as Castro is with the bat, you really can't afford to take out his glove and replace him with this bum for a pretty marginal offensive upgrade.

... and Castro could have looked better than that striking out on bad pitches. :rolleyes:

[THELTSHOW]

This doesn't make any sense. There have only been 2 manager moves today? :confused:


Arbitrary substitutions. Let me revise that hes more like 1 for 3 with a push for bringing in Luke to PH. His 1 is for Sarfate, missed on Walker and Cintron

Make that 2 for 4 with Ramon's single

[JTrea81]

This doesn't make any sense. There have only been 2 manager moves today? :confused:

Well now Cintron goes in defensively for Castro in a close game, with Hernandez PH for Castro. That's a very odd move considering Castro is the better defensive option. Why not just PH Ramon for Quiroz and leave Castro in?

[THELTSHOW]

Uh yea, there aren't enough prospects in the world to make me want to deal BRob

[JTrea81]

Time to pad that RBI total Nick. You gotta drive somebody in here...

[stef]

Yup. Terrible as Castro is with the bat, you really can't afford to take out his glove and replace him with this bum for a pretty marginal offensive upgrade.

... and Castro could have looked better than that striking out on bad pitches. :rolleyes:

I am no fan of Cintron's defense but I think it is a reasonable move to try to get someone on base with a little speed in front of Ramon. (Now, I don't think he should have used Scott so early and I wouldn't have put in Walker but, hey, that what makes armchair managing so much fun!)

[PaulFolk]

Well now Cintron goes in defensively for Castro in a close game, with Hernandez PH for Castro. That's a very odd move considering Castro is the better defensive option. Why not just PH Ramon for Quiroz and leave Castro in?
He wanted Cintron and Ramon to bat instead of Castro and Quiroz. Makes sense to me.

If the O's were leading, I think he'd leave Castro in for defensive reasons. But when you're behind, you need the better bat in there.

[JTrea81]

It's amazing that Nick has only hit 2 HR this entire month...

[THELTSHOW]

I have to ask this, but what is it that makes Cintron a better hitter than Castro??? They both struggle in general at the plate, but other than picking up soft singles in blowouts and that walk off single early in the season, I can't remember any time where Cintron has actually contributed to an offensive effort.

[JTrea81]

C'mon Melvin!

[Old#5fan]

Markakis sure isn't much of a close and late hitter is he?:(

[THELTSHOW]

The Yanks absolutely got away with robbery when the picked up Nady and Marte, no wonder the Pirates are always terrible.

[jincargo]

How depressing.

[blueberryale77]

I am no fan of Cintron's defense but I think it is a reasonable move to try to get someone on base with a little speed in front of Ramon. (Now, I don't think he should have used Scott so early and I wouldn't have put in Walker but, hey, that what makes armchair managing so much fun!)

That's all well and good if you're downgrading the defense from good to average or average to fair, or if you're talking about downgrading the defense at a corner position, but we're talking about going from a very good defensive shortstop to a guy who has no business in the world playing shortstop on a high school team. If you're going to structure your roster so that you have no true backup infielder who can actually play the middle infield positions somewhat competently, you leave yourself with very few options. It's so incredibly frustrating how often this happens. At least on September first we should get Fahey back and/or Blake Davis, so Cintron can be used as a marginal pinch hitter and then immediately replaced with an actual shortstop.

[blueberryale77]

Millar makes scooping lousy throws look so easy. If not for the cowboy's one superhuman talent, Cintron could have more errors than Ian Kinsler by now.

[THELTSHOW]

Tough play, Melmo did all he could on that one.

[THELTSHOW]

That's how we do it!!!

Even though Cintron almost threw it away.

[Old#5fan]

Tough play, Melmo did all he could on that one.

I have to question though why he plays so deep all the time. I disagree with that totally.:confused:

[JTrea81]

Last best chance for the O's to score here.

[THELTSHOW]

I have to question though why he plays so deep all the time. I disagree with that totally.:confused:


Because the best right handed hitter in baseball was up with a runner in scoring position.:o

[mrbig1]

Damn how many yankees fans are there today?

[TonySoprano]

What's up with the Hitler stache on Millar?

[stef]

That's all well and good if you're downgrading the defense from good to average or average to fair, or if you're talking about downgrading the defense at a corner position, but we're talking about going from a very good defensive shortstop to a guy who has no business in the world playing shortstop on a high school team. If you're going to structure your roster so that you have no true backup infielder who can actually play the middle infield positions somewhat competently, you leave yourself with very few options. It's so incredibly frustrating how often this happens. At least on September first we should get Fahey back and/or Blake Davis, so Cintron can be used as a marginal pinch hitter and then immediately replaced with an actual shortstop.

I think I'm clear on how you feel about Cintron's D :) but I won't bash Trembley for making the move...

[THELTSHOW]

Millar and his Hitler stache strike out.

[JTrea81]

Luke is our last hope...

[Old#5fan]

What's up with the Hitler stache on Millar?

I was wondering that as well. At first I just thought it was dirt!

Marte is looking like a HOFer.

God, I hate the MFing Yankees. My son and I were at the game last nite and almost got into a fight with a bunch of their arrogant fans. We were watching the game from the bullpen area and had been standing at the front viewing area that was roped off and my son went to the bathroom and when he came back some arrogant Yankee fan tried to push him away from our spot. Next thing I know after me and my son stood our ground he came back with a bunch of his buddies and was acting like a jerk. We told them to take a hike or we would take it outside and they finally left after making a scene. It was ridiculous for this to happen at our park.

[THELTSHOW]

Enter Sandman

[JTrea81]

This is where it sucks only having a three man bench...

[TonySoprano]

Millar looks more like Charlie Chaplin, but still nobody has worn that 'stache since the 40s.

[blueberryale77]

I think I'm clear on how you feel about Cintron's D :) but I won't bash Trembley for making the move...

Sorry, I have a slight Cintron ranting problem. :o

[THELTSHOW]

That's the kind of call you get when you're the best closer of all time.

[JTrea81]

That'll be the ballgame right there folks...

Another Sunday loss courtesy of Jamie Walker with an assist to Dave Trembley...

[THELTSHOW]

What song does JJ enter to? I've never been at a game where he's pitched and I've always been curious.

[blueberryale77]

For the love of God, Payton, SHUT UP! Do you want Jeremy Guthrie to have to play center field or something? :rolleyestf:

[UMDTerrapins]

Holy hell! For those of you with DVRs, watch where the umpire set up on that 3rd strike to Payton. He's lined up with the chalk on the inside. That looked like a strike cause he set up over the catchers shoulder....who was set up inside. That was a lousy call.

[UMDTerrapins]

Watched it again. The umpire set up dead even with the chalk of the batters box. He's practically behind Payton. Bush league umpiring right there.

[THELTSHOW]

I need some Orioles Magic here, this series has been demoralizing.

[THELTSHOW]

Little Big Man is the last hope. For the record, I'm pulling out all stops to get us back in this one. Orioles Magic is blasting in the Tackett Residence as we speak.

[THELTSHOW]

Clutch time for Kakes. O-R-I-O-L-E-S

[Birds08]

Unacceptable. In a 1-2 count, you can't be taking borderline pitches. Markakis needs to learn this.

[Old#5fan]

Clutch time for Kakes. O-R-I-O-L-E-S

Mr. clutch stands there again with the bat on his shoulder. Twice in this game he comes up close and late with the go ahead and game winning run and K's. And posters here want to call him an all-star type player. He's not even close. Even though it was a bad call you don't stand there and not at least foul that pitch off and instead risk the umpire ringing you up. Just disgustingly stupid.

[wickedwitch]

Unacceptable. In a 1-2 count, you can't be taking borderline pitches. Markakis needs to learn this.

That pitch wasn't borderline.

[ledzepp8]

Unacceptable. In a 1-2 count, you can't be taking borderline pitches. Markakis needs to learn this.

Since when is a pitch 6 inches off the plate a borderline pitch?

[GeorgeD]

Although I know this isn't the case, Markakis looked like Manny when Manny "boycotted" by taking three strikes from Rivera. OK, so maybe strike three was a shade outside, but come on. What was he waiting for? Rivera only throws one pitch, granted the cutter is one of the best pitches in baseball history. Frustration got the best of me while watching that.

[OsFan462]

Unacceptable. In a 1-2 count, you can't be taking borderline pitches. Markakis needs to learn this.

While I agree in that situation he shouldn't take borderline pitches, the ump needs to uncross his eyes. Hopefully someday the umps will be held accountable for doing a bad job. That last pitch was no where near a strike.

[blueberryale77]

Unacceptable. In a 1-2 count, you can't be taking borderline pitches. Markakis needs to learn this.

Especially when you have an umpire who has been expanding the outside of the strike zone all day. Nick and Brian are our best all-around hitters, but both of them have a maddening problem with being stubborn in the face of bad umpires. Just imagine how good the two of them could be if they cut down on the called strike threes. :(

That said, it's unacceptable for a game to end on a called strike that wasn't a strike. Markakis could have kept the ump from costing us the game, but Rapuano's incompetence, not Nick's stubborn adherence to the strict strike zone, was what really cost us. :angryfire::cussing:

[GeorgeD]

Let's be honest here. That was way too close to take. The floating strike zone makes it even more so than usual.

[Old#5fan]

Let's be honest here. That was way too close to take. The floating strike zone makes it even more so than usual.

I am willing to be brutally honest here and I believe Markakis is the biggest choker in the clutch on this team right now. He is especially prone to do it against the tougher competition like the Rays, Yankees or Redsox when the game is on the line. Great players relish those spots and Markakis looks like a deer caught in the headlights far too often. Hitting early on in non-pressure situations is one thing, hitting when the game on the line is another. Markakis excels at the former and sucks at the latter.

[Birds08]

On the Yankees telecast which I was watching they didn't show the view from above, but from the normal view it looked a tad outside, but definitely something where Nick needed to swing in that situation. Given the inconsistency of the umps the entire game, he should have swung and not taken any chances.

[ledzepp8]

I am willing to be brutally honest here and I bellieve Markakis is the biggest choker in the clutch on this team right now. He is especially prone to do it against the tougher competition like the Rays, Yankees or Redsox when the gam is on the line. Great players relish those spots and Markakis looks like a deer caught in the headlights far too often. Hitting early on in non-pressure situations is one thing, hitting when the game on the line is another. Markakis excels at the former and sucks at the latter.

You know you can repeat BS as many times as you want, but in the end it's still BS.

[Old#5fan]

You know you can repeat BS as many times as you want, but in the end it's still BS.

Why is it BS. Markakis I believe has only had two more game winning rbi in close and late situations this season than the much maligned and demoted to the minors Luis Hernandez! He sucks in the clutch!

[Flip217]

Why is it BS. Markakis I believe has only had two more game winning rbi in close and late situations this season than the much maligned and demoted to the minors Luis Hernandez! He sucks in the clutch!

This is hilarious -- Mr. Stats-don't-much trots out two highly suspect numbers to prove his point. Are you pulling our leg, Oldie? :scratchchinhmm: