View Full Version : Who's the #19 prospect?
Tony-OH
10-20-2008, 10:55 PM
Now that Bergesen is gone, who are you going to vote for?
I voted for Butler. Wouldn't be surprised by Miclat or Adams. I'm intrigued by this Wolfredo character. Awesome name. Though I'm pretty sure you mean Wilfredo.
Elon Os Fan
10-20-2008, 11:08 PM
I am gonna have to go with Adams as of right now.
He might not be the best fielder, but he his hitting really well and proved himself this year in Delmarva
Could be a good UTL INF (DeRosa, Aurilla) type.
Micalt probably has better upside, but I am gonna have to go with the stats here.
ChaosLex
10-20-2008, 11:20 PM
Went with Butler here. Some scouts have even said he might wind up being the jewel of the Bedard trade. :clap3:
Stotle
10-20-2008, 11:24 PM
Love Butler, but Miclat gets the nod for me until Butler stays healthy for a season. Adams is slightly behind due to fielding (throwing) questions.
clarence
10-20-2008, 11:56 PM
I don't think a utility player can go here when guys like Butler, and Miclat have higher upside. Adams may have a bat that can play, but not when he can't throw and catch.
Crazysilver03
10-21-2008, 12:50 AM
I dont really see how anyone can vote for Beato at this point. While he has more upside then most people on this list, he is also the least likely to achieve it at this point.
Ruzious
10-21-2008, 08:00 AM
TBut all the way here. The big lefty just needs to stay healthy.
Wolfie :) gets overlooked and is a little over-aged, but he misses bats - which is what a lot of the stat people focus on.
Frobby
10-21-2008, 08:03 AM
Miclat is my choice here. His upside is above average starting shortstop. That's a pretty good upside. I like Adams' bat but he's a man without a defensive position at this point. Butler has some upside but it's guesswork as to how far he'll progress.
Tony-OH
10-21-2008, 11:00 AM
TBut all the way here. The big lefty just needs to stay healthy.
Wolfie :) gets overlooked and is a little over-aged, but he misses bats - which is what a lot of the stat people focus on.
If his name was actually Wolfredo he'd be higher on our list. How could you miss with that name? :D
McLovin
10-21-2008, 11:05 AM
Am I crazy to think that Tyler Kolodny should at least be an option at this point?
tywright
10-21-2008, 11:10 AM
Miclat is my choice here. His upside is above average starting shortstop. That's a pretty good upside. I like Adams' bat but he's a man without a defensive position at this point. Butler has some upside but it's guesswork as to how far he'll progress.
I've been picking Adams the last few times. Adams' will find a way to become a decent 2B and his bat does translate well. Miclat still needs to show he can hit in the low minors.
Anlbdz
10-21-2008, 11:51 AM
I'm surprised Zagone isn't getting a look here.
He has that rare thing that we lack in our system.....control. a 5:1 k:bb!!
Combine that with the ability to miss bats.
I know he was a bit old for his league, but he's just out of college, seemed to dominate once he got comfortable AND went deep into games as well.
I'm not sure what kind of stuff he throws, but it must be pretty decent.
I'm surprised he's not even a thought is all.
Frobby
10-21-2008, 12:02 PM
I'm surprised Zagone isn't getting a look here.
He has that rare thing that we lack in our system.....control. a 5:1 k:bb!!
Combine that with the ability to miss bats.
I know he was a bit old for his league, but he's just out of college, seemed to dominate once he got comfortable AND went deep into games as well.
I'm not sure what kind of stuff he throws, but it must be pretty decent.
I'm surprised he's not even a thought is all.
I think we'll see Zagone somewhere in the 20's.
I know nothing about him, but sometimes you have to take the numbers of these college pitchers in the NY-Penn League with a grain of salt. I remember getting very excited a few years ago about David Haehnel based on his 61-11 K/BB ratio in 37 innings the year he was drafted. Tony gave some reasons why he might have difficulties at higher levels, which eventually were proven correct. http://www.thebaseballcube.com/players/H/David-Haehnel.shtml
Again, I'm not saying Zagone is comparable to Haehnel, but he could be. Let's wait to hear what Tony has to say.
Tony-OH
10-21-2008, 12:29 PM
Am I crazy to think that Tyler Kolodny should at least be an option at this point?
Yes.. ;) .....
Stotle
10-21-2008, 12:35 PM
I'm surprised Zagone isn't getting a look here.
He has that rare thing that we lack in our system.....control. a 5:1 k:bb!!
Combine that with the ability to miss bats.
I know he was a bit old for his league, but he's just out of college, seemed to dominate once he got comfortable AND went deep into games as well.
I'm not sure what kind of stuff he throws, but it must be pretty decent.
I'm surprised he's not even a thought is all.
He won't sustain this ability as he moves up. His stuff is pretty average, though it plays up a bit because of the deception in his delivery. The odds are stacked against him staying a starter, in my opinion, but he could develop into a useful lefty arm in the pen.
hoosiers
10-21-2008, 01:03 PM
IMO, the next three are Adams, Miclat and Butler.
I think Butler has the best chance to have a respectable role in the majors - but he is derailed by serious injury concerns. I still went with Butler.
Anlbdz
10-21-2008, 01:45 PM
thanks for the input on zagone. I do like butler too, he's young, tall, and a lefty with decent control it seems. Hopefully we get a healthy year out him next year to get a better idea of what he might be able to do.
Miclat is certainly interesting, although I suppose his shoulder is still an area of concern. That being said, a solid ML shortstop is worth its weight in gold right now, so i understand the excitement.
Adams I just don't know about, his bat has come alive, but 50 errors? Is it his throws, his position, his everything? Is his bat good enough to overcome that, or be a DH or a corner outfielder if he cannot be serviceable in the IF?
I must say though, arguing over these guys in the upper teens/lower 20's is pretty exciting though.
brvn52
10-21-2008, 03:06 PM
Ryan Adams. I really like the kid and think he'll move way up the draft board by 2009.
I'd like to see more from Miclat and Butler needs to get healthy. Beato had a bad year and Wilfredo Perez (I'm assuming that's who Tony meant) is no more that a possible reliever. Gotta give the nod to Adams here.
BaltimoreTerp
10-21-2008, 06:13 PM
If his name was actually Wolfredo he'd be higher on our list. How could you miss with that name? :D
Sounds like a new pasta dish from Chili's or someplace.
"Try our new Devil's Hair pasta with extreme Wolfredo sauce! It's so good you'll go howling to all your friends!"
NCRaven
10-21-2008, 10:40 PM
Love Butler, but Miclat gets the nod for me until Butler stays healthy for a season. Adams is slightly behind due to fielding (throwing) questions.
Ditto. I really like the reports we got on Miclat out of the instructional league, along with his play in the Cape league and limited pro play. If Butler can stay healthy and Adams can develop as a fielder, you have to love the developing minor league depth.
Tony-OH
10-21-2008, 11:35 PM
A strong showing by Adams, but Miclat gets the nod because of his defense and ability to get on base.