Terminator: Salvation

[Elbren]

Apple.com
(http://www.apple.com/trailers/wb/terminatorsalvation/)

I cannot wait for this movie.

[Tank]

Wow, that was an awesome trailer. I'm a big fan of Bale.

[allstar1579]

CAN'T WAIT!!!!!!

This is a series that was begging for a reboot.

[NewMarketSean]

YES!!!

I am definitely hyped for this movie. Excellent trailer. Showed enough but not too much.

[Mackus]

Christian Bale has a lifetime pass for me. I'll see anything he does.

Very excited for this.

[NewMarketSean]

It's funny, after reading the IMDb boards after watching the trailer (I know... I shouldn't) it's amazing the flack this movie is getting because A) McG "sucks", B) It looks too much like Transformers, and C) McG "sucks".

They forget that James Cameron was the guy who directed Pirahana 2 before making The Terminator. McG wouldn't have been my first choice to direct this movie, but he had to start somewhere, even if it was with those crappy Charlies Angels movies. At least the action was well-filmed!

[NewMarketSean]

The new trailer (which will be attached to Watchmen) kicks arse!

[Can_of_corn]

From the trailer I saw with Watchmen the movie looks like it leans heavily upon the work of Philip K. Dick. Given the shoddy treatment Mr Dick has received over the years by hollywood I hold little hope that this will stand up to the high standard of his work.

[DuffMan]

The new trailer (which will be attached to Watchmen) kicks arse!

The song with that trailer (sounds like NIN to me) kicks arse as well.

[DuffMan]

This movie is rated PG-13???? :cussing:

[NewMarketSean]

This movie is rated PG-13???? :cussing:

Yeah, it sucks, but if The Dark Knight wasn't compromised by its PG-13 rating then I hope TS can say the same thing too.

[allstar1579]

Yeah, it sucks, but if The Dark Knight wasn't compromised by its PG-13 rating then I hope TS can say the same thing too.

The only scene they had to change to get it was Moon B. being topless in one scene. You can have tons of action and fighting in a PG-13 movie, just gotta cut back on the gore and language. I'm not worried.

I can't wait.

[NewMarketSean]

The only scene they had to change to get it was Moon B. being topless in one scene. You can have tons of action and fighting in a PG-13 movie, just gotta cut back on the gore and language. I'm not worried.

I can't wait.

Go to the IMDb boards for TS... it's insane. People are acting like they've taken the Friday the 13th movies and made them PG-13. The Terminator series was never really about violence. Most of it was always implied anyway. The language is what they'll cut back on the most, but even most PG-13 movies have an F-bomb or two.

It's crazy to think that so many people are up in arms over this. The hiring of McG, sure.... but the rating? Especially when 2 of the best movies from the last year were PG-13?

[allstar1579]

Go to the IMDb boards for TS... it's insane. People are acting like they've taken the Friday the 13th movies and made them PG-13. The Terminator series was never really about violence. Most of it was always implied anyway. The language is what they'll cut back on the most, but even most PG-13 movies have an F-bomb or two.

It's crazy to think that so many people are up in arms over this. The hiring of McG, sure.... but the rating? Especially when 2 of the best movies from the last year were PG-13?

Yeah, I mean I could see if it was a horror movie, or like a mobster movie (can you imagine Casino PG-13?) They are allowed to drop the F-bomb once during a Pg-13 movie, but like you said, The Dark Knight should have quelled all fears. The funny thing it isn't the real fans that care about this stuff, it's the fairweather fans that whine about it, and complain about the TV show (which I think is pretty awesome), and whine about T3 (although not that great, it was still a terminator movie, and I'll pay to see that).

[Tony-OH]

Go to the IMDb boards for TS... it's insane. People are acting like they've taken the Friday the 13th movies and made them PG-13. The Terminator series was never really about violence. Most of it was always implied anyway. The language is what they'll cut back on the most, but even most PG-13 movies have an F-bomb or two.

It's crazy to think that so many people are up in arms over this. The hiring of McG, sure.... but the rating? Especially when 2 of the best movies from the last year were PG-13?


Ok, enlighten me, what in the world is a McG and why is he so bad for the series? BTW, I saw the trailer the other day on TV and looks pretty interesting.

[The Wedge]

He's a director. I think he got his start on music videos, and he was behind the camera on the Charlies Angels movies. Beats me why he uses such a silly pseudonym. I wonder if some of his contempories gave him the incredulous speeches of Seth and Evan from Superbad when Fogel comes back with the McLovin fake ID.

[NewMarketSean]

Ok, enlighten me, what in the world is a McG and why is he so bad for the series? BTW, I saw the trailer the other day on TV and looks pretty interesting.

He was a music video director, did the 2 crappy Charlie's Angels movies and produced The OC. He's not exactly my #1 choice either but I thought action-movie director Jonathan Mostow (Breakdown, U-571) would be great for T3, but I thought it was pretty disappointing.

It's typical fanboy panic. I mean James Cameron directed Piranha 2 before he directed Terminator and before he took over for the great Ridley Scott for Aliens, he only had Terminator on his resume of good movies.

I agree Tony. TS looks solid and everything I have read about it and McG gives me high hopes. McG may never be a Ridley Scott or James Cameron, but he can still turn in a good Terminator movie.

[NewMarketSean]

He's a director. I think he got his start on music videos, and he was behind the camera on the Charlies Angels movies. Beats me why he uses such a silly pseudonym. I wonder if some of his contempories gave him the incredulous speeches of Seth and Evan from Superbad when Fogel comes back with the McLovin fake ID.

His last name is McGinty so he goes by McG. Kinda lame, I agree. But whatever. Pretty much everyone in Hollywood has a fake name anyway.

[The Wedge]

His last name is McGinty so he goes by McG. Kinda lame, I agree. But whatever. Pretty much everyone in Hollywood has a fake name anyway.

Yeah, but most of 'em at least have first and last fake names. ;)

Cuz his name sounds like a South Central cheeseburger.

[Mark Carver]

I found this on www.Blu-ray.com that when the movie is released on Blu-ray or DVD. It will contain an additional 20-30 minutes of deleted scenes, as well as an alternative ending.


After receiving any early showing of the upcoming film 'Terminator: Salvation', Steve 'Frosty' Weintraub got to sit down with the film's director to ask him a few questions about the film. One of the noteworthy tidbits he found out was that the future Blu-ray and DVD releases would receive 30-40 minutes of deleted scenes, including an alternate ending.

Since most of you haven't seen the film yet - count me as well - you might want to stop there and wait to watch the interview. But for those of you who fear not the spoiler, click on the source link to learn some of the other deleted scenes on the upcoming disc.

[NewMarketSean]

I found this on www.Blu-ray.com that when the movie is released on Blu-ray or DVD. It will contain an additional 20-30 minutes of deleted scenes, as well as an alternative ending.

While I do like the option of adding in discarded footage for DVD's, I don't like that it basically renders the theatrical version moot. They've been doing this a lot lately... basically telling people upfront "this is not the finished product". Look at what they're going to do with Watchmen for an example.

However, I really can't wait to see the movie in the theater and I will be buying the DVD the day it comes out to see the extra footage. I guess I am a sucker.

[JourneyFan]

McG, despite the stupid name, gets a lifetime pass from me for his involvement with the TV shows Supernatural (the best show on TV right now) and Chuck, much like Ron Howard does because of Arrested Development.

[NewMarketSean]

Well, the 10 clips they released on-line don't bode well for the movie IMO. The acting and dialog are both stiff and almost painful to listen to. However, I am still very much looking forward to seeing this.

[JourneyFan]

Well, the 10 clips they released on-line don't bode well for the movie IMO. The acting and dialog are both stiff and almost painful to listen to. However, I am still very much looking forward to seeing this.

But, most importantly, how was the lighting in those clips? I know the lighting really got to Bale last summer.

[NewMarketSean]

But, most importantly, how was the lighting in those clips? I know the lighting really got to Bale last summer.

Ohhhh GOOD for YOU!!!

[NewMarketSean]

Anyone watching the first 3 movies again to get excited for this? I am watching each one Mon-Wed and then seeing this on Thursday... can't wait!

[allstar1579]

Anyone watching the first 3 movies again to get excited for this? I am watching each one Mon-Wed and then seeing this on Thursday... can't wait!

Yup, and I watched the Skynet and resistance trailers last night :) I'm such a Termi-nerd.

[NewMarketSean]

Yup, and I watched the Skynet and resistance trailers last night :) I'm such a Termi-nerd.

Are those the games?

[allstar1579]

Are those the games?

No they are infomercials that talk about how Skynet is here for our benefit, and then the resistance hacks them to show what they are really doing. Nothing real huge, but I had to watch and see anyway. They show the different models of Terminators made when Skynet first came on line, so that's kinda cool

On a side note, anyone else wish they would have stayed with the old Terminator back to the past formula and handed the reigns over to The Rock?

[NewMarketSean]

No they are infomercials that talk about how Skynet is here for our benefit, and then the resistance hacks them to show what they are really doing. Nothing real huge, but I had to watch and see anyway. They show the different models of Terminators made when Skynet first came on line, so that's kinda cool

On a side note, anyone else wish they would have stayed with the old Terminator back to the past formula and handed the reigns over to The Rock?

No. Those stories were stale by the time T3 came out. The series needed to evolve the way it did and it's time for a Terminator movie to take place during the man vs. machine war.

Also, I just watched the first one again last night... amazed at how well it still holds up despite some cheesy 80's references.

[allstar1579]

No. Those stories were stale by the time T3 came out. The series needed to evolve the way it did and it's time for a Terminator movie to take place during the man vs. machine war.

Also, I just watched the first one again last night... amazed at how well it still holds up despite some cheesy 80's references.

If you say so. Watched every episode of T:SCC and loved it. I feel like it could be done if it was done well, T3 just wasn't done well. They just looked at 2 and said what do we have to do that makes the Terminator newer and scarier and where does the timeline have to be. They could have gotten more creative. Oh well...c'est la vie.

[NewMarketSean]

If you say so. Watched every episode of T:SCC and loved it. I feel like it could be done if it was done well, T3 just wasn't done well. They just looked at 2 and said what do we have to do that makes the Terminator newer and scarier and where does the timeline have to be. They could have gotten more creative. Oh well...c'est la vie.

I thought the TV show became too disjointed. There seemed to be too many plots going on at once and no linear progression to an end. Oh well. To each his own.

[Mashed Potatoes]

A positive review from Variety.

http://www.variety.com/review/VE1117940262.html?categoryid=31&cs=1

[allstar1579]

I thought the TV show became too disjointed. There seemed to be too many plots going on at once and no linear progression to an end. Oh well. To each his own.

I think it just took too long to shape up what they were trying to get to, that there was another system out there trying to fight Skynet for whatever reason. They wasted so many episodes on making it look like this is what built skynet, and got away from the action for a while. I felt like the last 8 episodes or so were phenomenal because they said, ok here's a side, here's a side, and there's this group out there too, let's fight it out.

[NewMarketSean]

I think it just took too long to shape up what they were trying to get to, that there was another system out there trying to fight Skynet for whatever reason. They wasted so many episodes on making it look like this is what built skynet, and got away from the action for a while. I felt like the last 8 episodes or so were phenomenal because they said, ok here's a side, here's a side, and there's this group out there too, let's fight it out.

I stopped watching mid-way through the second season, right around the time they went on hiatus.

[allstar1579]

I stopped watching mid-way through the second season, right around the time they went on hiatus.

Ahhh. Do yourself a favor and check out the episodes after they moved it to Friday nights. Much better stuff. You could actually follow the plot, and it got really good when they started explaining how everyone tied together.

[Mashed Potatoes]

Only has a 38% on Rotten Tomatoes, my expectations have taken a big hit. F you McG.

http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/terminator_salvation/

[NewMarketSean]

Only has a 38% on Rotten Tomatoes, my expectations have taken a big hit. F you McG.

http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/terminator_salvation/

Yep! I thought this could be about as good as T3, maybe better, but now it sounds like it's about as good as Reign of Fire.

What the hell I already bought tickets to see it tomorrow so I will still be excited to see it.

[Mackus]

Yep! I thought this could be about as good as T3, maybe better, but now it sounds like it's about as good as Reign of Fire.

What the hell I already bought tickets to see it tomorrow so I will still be excited to see it.It will have Batman fighting robots.

It could have a sex scene between Carrot Top and Angela Lansbury and still be worth seeing just for the Batman v. Robots aspect.

[allstar1579]

Only has a 38% on Rotten Tomatoes, my expectations have taken a big hit. F you McG.

http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/terminator_salvation/

I never trust rotten tomatoes, they are right like 30% of the time.

[NewMarketSean]

I never trust rotten tomatoes, they are right like 30% of the time.

Well they do compile a lot of reviews, so it's the best way to judge whether or not a movie is good or not. I still think there's a chance this movie can be mindless fun, but the Terminator movies were never mindless movies. Ah well I will be in the theater tomorrow night at 7 p.m. anyway.

[DuffMan]

I never trust rotten tomatoes, they are right like 30% of the time.

"Kent, anyone can make up statistics, 75% of all people know that"

[Dipper9]

I never trust rotten tomatoes, they are right like 30% of the time.

They have a 50/50 chance of being right half the time! :laughlol:

[allstar1579]

Well they do compile a lot of reviews, so it's the best way to judge whether or not a movie is good or not. I still think there's a chance this movie can be mindless fun, but the Terminator movies were never mindless movies. Ah well I will be in the theater tomorrow night at 7 p.m. anyway.

Yeah, if you are expecting some award winning performance you probably aren't going to get it, but if you want to see some crap blow up, and some killer robots, it should be good.

I have a feeling the ending is going to be very blah though. It's the first in a planned trilogy, so it won't be some epic thing, I have a feeling it'll just kinda fizzle a bit there. Still enthusiastically going to see it though.

[theonestevewh]

I saw this movie a few days ago at the Maryland premiere at Muvico and here's my brief review.

First off, I want to say that RT is totally off on this. A 35% rating is ridiculous. The movie was well done on all fronts. The photography, graphics and acting were great. The direction, music, and script were very good. The plot was good but character development (especially in the case of John and Kate Connor) was lacking. I guess they decided that the characters were all ready developed enough in past movies and didn't need to be further developed. I don't have a problem with that but some might. Sam Worthington as Marcus Wright was really good, better than Christian Bale as John Connor. Anton Yelchin as Kyle Reese was a good fit I think. The main issue I had with the film is that all the sub-characters in the movie felt like cameos rather than integral parts of the film. I wish they would have extended the movie about 30 minutes and added some more character development with the sub-characters and with John and Kate Connor. The ending was sufficient but I won't go into detail about it. All in all, I liked it a lot but not as much as Star Trek but I can't wait to see T5 (assuming it happens). See the movie in theaters, the action alone is worth it.

I gave it an 8/10.

[My O's Face]

Well guys, I'm off to go see this turd. Wish me luck.


I'll let you know what happens.

-Bob

[NewMarketSean]

I saw this movie a few days ago at the Maryland premiere at Muvico and here's my brief review.

First off, I want to say that RT is totally off on this. A 35% rating is ridiculous. The movie was well done on all fronts. The photography, graphics and acting were great. The direction, music, and script were very good. The plot was good but character development (especially in the case of John and Kate Connor) was lacking. I guess they decided that the characters were all ready developed enough in past movies and didn't need to be further developed. I don't have a problem with that but some might. Sam Worthington as Marcus Wright was really good, better than Christian Bale as John Connor. Anton Yelchin as Kyle Reese was a good fit I think. The main issue I had with the film is that all the sub-characters in the movie felt like cameos rather than integral parts of the film. I wish they would have extended the movie about 30 minutes and added some more character development with the sub-characters and with John and Kate Connor. The ending was sufficient but I won't go into detail about it. All in all, I liked it a lot but not as much as Star Trek but I can't wait to see T5 (assuming it happens). See the movie in theaters, the action alone is worth it.

I gave it an 8/10.

Thanks for that. Gives me hope that I can still walk away from the movie smiling. However, on a similar note, Quantum of Solace was the 24th or so Bond movie there was. His "development" has been done to death. But without much depth to the character in QoS, it wasn't as good as the others and felt very one-note. So yeah, even though we've gotten 2 movies worth of Connor development, that doesn't mean that he should become some flat character the third time around.

Anyway I am still pumped to see this. I also think that the DVD will contain about 30 mins of extra footage, so you might get your wish.

[NewMarketSean]

Just got back from the theater. My take:

- Definitely not as bad as the critics are making it out to be. Their "negative" reviews were right. Lots of action, little character development, although Worthington and Yelchin do wonders with their characters. You really feel for those guys. I gotta be honest, Yelchin had me smiling at times because he channels Reese so well. Bale is good, not great, and seemed committed to the role, unlike what Harry Knowles at Ain't it Cool News said about Bale sleepwalking through the movie (go read his misplace tantrum of a review)
- The editing flat out sucked. It was the worst thing about the movie. Characters appear to be in places instantly. Connor seems to waltz right into SkyNet. We see Marcus turn off some sentinels but still it would be nice to see Connor scaling the walls for cripes sake. Anyway, the editing really chops up some scenes bad. The good news is that it pretty much proves that there are a lot of missing scenes that could be added into the DVD to make this movie feel more complete.
- The story was OK. Nothing spectacular but nothing as bad as Knowles made it out to be. The resistance believes they have a way to win the war and Connor takes over as the leader. I'd say that's reason enough for the movie alone.
- I was afraid that McG was going to go off on his own and disrupt the continuity of the series but there are enough references sprinkled throughout the movie to make it feel like a true sequel and not some reboot.
- The T-101 scene was lame.

All in all I have to say that it was right about what I expected it to be after the reviews knocked my expectations down a bit. It's got some excellent action scenes and there is enough for die-hard fans to discuss for weeks. There also feels like a big chunk of the movie is missing so I think we'll have to wait for the DVD to get the true verdict on whether this movie is just good or great.

*** (out of ****)

[allstar1579]

I really liked it. The ending was kinda ho-hum like I expected, but that was just because as real fans we knew that it was going to turn out that way.

I think Sam Worthington stole the movie, and I'm looking forward to the next Terminator movie, although that will be the one they have to start introducing time travel, and that is tricky because there is so much to explain. Going back to kill/protect Sarah, going back to kill/protect John, going back to kill/protect all the lieutenants, and then someone had to be going back and forth and reporting on all of this so that Skynet has this information from the past in order to start making the T-800s 10 years early.

Now that the TV show is canceled, I kinda wish they would introduce some of that, and have Summer Glau in it and show how she became John's "best friend" and he sent her back in time.

[Elbren]

Agree w/ most of the reviews here so far. Seemed a bit light on character development but overall, I really enjoyed it. Not sure why it's getting such harsh media reviews.

SPOILER

Am I the only one who almost wet himself near the end when that thick, metal door got booted open and out walks ... Arnold Schwarzenegger? Yeah, I know it wasn't him. Some type of crazy combination of makeup and CGI .. but MAN. It's not just that he looked like Arnold ... it's the fact that he looked like Arnold circa 1984. Even down to the harcut. First thing I thought of was the scene in the first Terminator where the T-800 first walks up to Sarah in the club. Very well done IMO.

BTW, the name of the actor that played the T-800 is Roland Kickinger.

/SPOILER

[Jagwar]

Just saw the movie. Have to say, I loved the first 3 movies, and was a fan of the recently cancelled Sarah Connor Chronicles. Went into the theater expecting great things.

And the verdict... I thought it was a big stinker. Gorgeous film in terms of effects, but there were many times towards the second half of the movie where I just didn't think that the script made any sense at all. And when the credits started rolling, I knew that I would never be interested in watching it again. In fact, I think that Sarah Connor Chronicles blew this film away week after week.

Mild spoilers:

- I'm sick of all of this time travel stuff. The first 3 movies were completely devoted to keeping John Connor alive. Now all of a sudden the most important thing is keeping Kyle Reece alive. WTH? So if Kyle Reece dies, how does he ever go back in time to beget John Connor in the first place. Do they really expect that Connor will evaporate before everyone's eyes, a la the photos in Back to the Future?
- Skynet is supposed to be this monstrous oppressive force, and (at least in T1-T3) the humans are an underdog resistance. Suddenly, the US still has the ability to launch offensives against Skynet, even attack the Skynet base.
Didn't anyone feel like John Connor infiltrates the Skynet base a little too easily?
- I thought that Arnold's "appearance" was lame. Lots of laughs in my theater when that scene happened.

IMO, the movie was a big disappointment. Summer blockbusters are supposed to be a lot more... blockbusting.

[allstar1579]

JAG -

Trying not to spoil, so I figured I wouldn't reply to your msg. But:

Yeah the time travel thing is basically set up if Reese dies in the future, he can't be sent back, meaning Connor is never born, means SkyNet wins.

This one was supposed to be pretty much RIGHT after Judgement Day, when there were a whole organized military group left, and showing how that was decimated leaving only a prophet-like John left to lead the rest and how much they would do to follow him. All we have heard about the future is from years in the future from this movie (the T-800's that have been sent back weren't supposed to be made until 10 years or so later than this movie) so by then, it is exactly what you said it was, a scary overwhelming force.

John was let into the facility, he didn't really break in, that's what that scene with SkyNet talking to Marcus was explaining, that it used him to bring John there unwittingly, the best infiltrator is one that doesn't know it is infiltrating. SkyNet let all the "defenses" be lowered to let him in because it wanted him in to kill him and Reese.

See now they have to explain how someone got all of this information about John in the past (with the terminators being destroyed they could not have reported this) and how they knew to send stuff back in time to speed up the production of the T-800's 10 years. There is a lot of time travel stuff to explain, and I'm guessing they kept it out of this movie to not confuse people even more than they already were.

I agree though, I think the last 6 episodes of the show progressed the Terminator mythology much more than this movie did. If they could find a way to blend the two it'd be great, since the show is over now, or even better if another network would have picked it up (I'd totally watch SciFi if it did).

[Dipper9]

We saw it this morning. I love the Terminator movies, but admittedly I do not analyze everything so as to find the faults in the storyline. Without giving away any of the movie, I do have to say...SPOILER...the Arnold scene when the door opened was just awesome. They played the music and everything...and then WHAM...1984 Arnold...ie the original T-800. Awesome! I loved it.

[NewMarketSean]

This (http://www.chud.com/articles/articles/19577/1/EXCLUSIVE-WHAT-WENT-WRONG-WITH-TERMINATOR-SALVATION/Page1.html) is a fascinating read about the script development for TS and how the finished film does/does not differ a lot from the original script in the end.

Personally, I do feel like this was a troubled movie. They basically changed the script on the fly as they filmed, changed the original ending because it leaked and there was a huge backlash, and added more John Connor because Bale wanted to play the character. That explains why Connor kind of feels useless in this movie and the ending is very bland. If this is a trilogy it really sets up nothing. The original ending flies in the face of the previous movies but it makes the new trilogy that much more interesting and sets up a huge hook over the course of the next 2 movies.

It also knocks down my hopes that any extended DVD will flesh out the theatrical version of the movie because it sounds like the extra footage could have been shot with the original ending in place.

Oh well.

[theonestevewh]

This (http://www.chud.com/articles/articles/19577/1/EXCLUSIVE-WHAT-WENT-WRONG-WITH-TERMINATOR-SALVATION/Page1.html) is a fascinating read about the script development for TS and how the finished film does/does not differ a lot from the original script in the end.

Personally, I do feel like this was a troubled movie. They basically changed the script on the fly as they filmed, changed the original ending because it leaked and there was a huge backlash, and added more John Connor because Bale wanted to play the character. That explains why Connor kind of feels useless in this movie and the ending is very bland. If this is a trilogy it really sets up nothing. The original ending flies in the face of the previous movies but it makes the new trilogy that much more interesting and sets up a huge hook over the course of the next 2 movies.

It also knocks down my hopes that any extended DVD will flesh out the theatrical version of the movie because it sounds like the extra footage could have been shot with the original ending in place.

Oh well.

Wow, interesting read indeed. The original script, while creative, sounded pretty awful. The ending, John Connor's involvement, Project ANGEL all sound like horrendous ideas. I think the ending of the finished movie does set two crucial things up for future movies. SPOILERS >> It allows Connor to take a command role and Kyle Reese to become one of the top fighters in the Resistance.

[NewMarketSean]

Wow, interesting read indeed. The original script, while creative, sounded pretty awful. The ending, John Connor's involvement, Project ANGEL all sound like horrendous ideas. I think the ending of the finished movie does set two crucial things up for future movies. SPOILERS >> It allows Connor to take a command role and Kyle Reese to become one of the top fighters in the Resistance.

I do agree. However if this is supposed to be a trilogy, TS actually felt like more of a prequel to that trilogy, meaning there are 3 more movies instead of 2.

[McLovin]

I thought the movie was 'ok'. It was essentially a special effects movie. Without the cool audio/visual elements, it would have been horrific.

The gigantic Terminator was really awesome. (I've seen it in commercials, so hopefully I'm not spoiling anything.)

I'd rank the summer blockbusters Star Trek, Wolverine, Terminator so far.

[theonestevewh]

I do agree. However if this is supposed to be a trilogy, TS actually felt like more of a prequel to that trilogy, meaning there are 3 more movies instead of 2.

Yeah, I can see that.


I thought the movie was 'ok'. It was essentially a special effects movie. Without the cool audio/visual elements, it would have been horrific.

The gigantic Terminator was really awesome. (I've seen it in commercials, so hopefully I'm not spoiling anything.)

I'd rank the summer blockbusters Star Trek, Wolverine, Terminator so far.

T4 definitely has had the best special effects so far this year. Transformers 2 looks pretty impressive as well though.

I've seen 16 films this year so far and this is how I have them ranked and scored:

1. Star Trek (9/10); It's number one for a reason!
2. The Watchmen (9/10); Great adaption, made the right changes.
3. Taken (9/10); Awesome action flick.
4. I Love You, Man (8.5/10); Funniest movie of the year so far.
5. Angels and Demons (8.5/10); Seems high but it kept me interested the whole movie.
6. Terminator Salvation (8/10); All ready discussed.
7. Adventureland (8/10); Great story, not as funny as expected.
8. Wolverine (7.5/10); The story seemed taped together.
9. Paul Blart: Mall Cop (7.5/10); Few laughs, decent story, big KJ fan.
10. Fired Up (7.5/10); Surprisingly hilarious.
11. Friday the 13th (7.5/10); The acting was actually fairly decent even though the scares were almost non-existent. Pretty funny too.
12. Fast and Furious (7/10); The story was very weak in some spots.
13. Observe and Report (6/10); Most disappointing movie of the year so far.
14. Knowing (5/10); Seriously Nick Cage?
15. My Bloody Valentine 3D (4/10); The 3D was good, everything else was pretty awful.
16. Miss March (1/10); Seriously one of the worst films I've ever seen.

[Dipper9]

Talking about spoilers, at this point, anyone who has NOT seen the movie but is going to should just not read this thread. Its tough talking about a movie without, uh, talking about the movie! :laughlol:

On a side note, who was the chick that played the terminator's "love interest." I know I have seen her before, but I cannot picture where. She was rather scrumptious! :laughlol:

[theonestevewh]

Talking about spoilers, at this point, anyone who has NOT seen the movie but is going to should just not read this thread. Its tough talking about a movie without, uh, talking about the movie! :laughlol:

On a side note, who was the chick that played the terminator's "love interest." I know I have seen her before, but I cannot picture where. She was rather scrumptious! :laughlol:

Her name is Moon Bloodgood (awesome name right?) and she had a topless scene that was cut from the movie so that it could get a PG-13 rating. It will be added to the DVD though. The only other thing I've seen her in is Eight Below.

[Jagwar]

Her name is Moon Bloodgood (awesome name right?) and she had a topless scene that was cut from the movie so that it could get a PG-13 rating. It will be added to the DVD though. The only other thing I've seen her in is Eight Below.

Guess I'll be buying the DVD then. ;)

Her part in the story was one reason why I think the script just didn't cut it. Any human in this storyline would tell you is that Terminators are the worst thing you could run into, and that no Terminator is to be trusted. Yet she decides to free this one from the chains... why? Because in a few hours time she was convinced that it was different, actually an ally?

A real reach IMO

[Floater]

Just got back from seeing this...it was down right awful in my honest opinion. Terrible plot, character development, story, script, hell even the action sucked! I get the whole back story to Terminator but the story it self was way too complex and had too many holes. Quite disappointed in this as they could have done this movie much much better. At least I got in for free...

Basically, if you crossed the Matrix with War of the Worlds, you get this piece of crap.

[NewMarketSean]

Just got back from seeing this...it was down right awful in my honest opinion. Terrible plot, character development, story, script, hell even the action sucked! I get the whole back story to Terminator but the story it self was way too complex and had too many holes. Quite disappointed in this as they could have done this movie much much better. At least I got in for free...

Basically, if you crossed the Matrix with War of the Worlds, you get this piece of crap.

Wait for the extended DVD for make your final judgment. I think there was a lot cut out of this movie to get it below 2 hrs.

[JourneyFan]

Just got back from seeing this...it was down right awful in my honest opinion. Terrible plot, character development, story, script, hell even the action sucked! I get the whole back story to Terminator but the story it self was way too complex and had too many holes. Quite disappointed in this as they could have done this movie much much better. At least I got in for free...


I agree.


Basically, if you crossed the Matrix with War of the Worlds, you get this piece of crap.

Except, The Matrix and War of the Worlds are actually good movies; crossing them would definitely yield something better than Terminator Salvation.

[Tank]

Thought it was an entertaining action flick. Not as good as the first 2, but I still liked it.