Whats Marylands chances at Roscoe Smith?

[Beltwayman]

Baltimore player..homestate homeboy. Would love for us to land him....Do we have a chance? How good a chance do we have? :)

[PaulBako]

Limited... not impossible, but limited... hear he is a Carolina lead.... MD has been after him though... would love to team him with Buie (sp?) and Epps.

North Carolina is stealing all of the good players! :(

[BaltBird 24]

You can almost bet that any top ranked player from Maryland won't be going to Maryland.

Look at the top 5 players from 2009......

The number one is going to Pittsburgh, two and three are going to Villanova, four is going to Virginia, and the fifth is going to Texas A&M.

In 2010 the number one in state has already committed to Tennessee. I doubt there's a chance in hell we get the number two or number three. Meanwhile, number four, five, and six have already committed to Xavier, Georgetown, and Syracuse.

Simply put, Maryland won't get top talent while we still have GW at the helm.

[allstar1579]

You can almost bet that any top ranked player from Maryland won't be going to Maryland.

Look at the top 5 players from 2009......

The number one is going to Pittsburgh, two and three are going to Villanova, four is going to Virginia, and the fifth is going to Texas A&M.

In 2010 the number one in state has already committed to Tennessee. I doubt there's a chance in hell we get the number two or number three. Meanwhile, number four, five, and six have already committed to Xavier, Georgetown, and Syracuse.

Simply put, Maryland won't get top talent while we still have GW at the helm.

This is why we are not a constant final four contender. Durant and Green are two I am still seething about not doing whatever it took.

[BaltBird 24]

Durant and Green are two I am still seething about not doing whatever it took.

Durant, Jeff Green, Rudy Gay, Ty Lawson, DaJuan Summers, Donte Greene, Austin Freeman, Anthony McClain, and the list goes on.

All very talented players with Maryland ties who took their game elsewhere.

[Bosibus]

Durant, Jeff Green, Rudy Gay, Ty Lawson, DaJuan Summers, Donte Greene, Austin Freeman, Anthony McClain, and the list goes on.

All very talented players with Maryland ties who took their game elsewhere.

Carmello Anthony

[Pedro Cerrano]

Michael Beasley...we can talk about this forever, it stinks.

[Hallas]

On the topic of general recruiting, I personally don't think that Maryland has enough to offer as a school for it to stand on its own two feet as a desired destination among top-flight recruits.

Georgetown is right around the corner, with its history, academic reputation, and location. A few hours south you have UNC and Duke. While Duke's history is slightly more recent, both schools still have a basketball history. And superior academic reputations. (You could make an argument with UNC academically, but they still have us beat in terms of history.) I could go on and on with my list.

I think this highlights Williams's recruiting failures more - he already has an uphill battle, and he's sliding down the hill instead of gaining ground.

[Mackus]

On the topic of general recruiting, I personally don't think that Maryland has enough to offer as a school for it to stand on its own two feet as a desired destination among top-flight recruits.

Georgetown is right around the corner, with its history, academic reputation, and location. A few hours south you have UNC and Duke. While Duke's history is slightly more recent, both schools still have a basketball history. And superior academic reputations. (You could make an argument with UNC academically, but they still have us beat in terms of history.) I could go on and on with my list.

I think this highlights Williams's recruiting failures more - he already has an uphill battle, and he's sliding down the hill instead of gaining ground.I don't think you could possibly be any more wrong regarding the attractiveness of the MD program. Its a great location, a great campus, top-notch facilities. Very well-respected academically although thats of less importance to most basketball recruits.

The massive appeal of the school highlights how poor of a job Gary has done recruiting. He's gotta do better.

[Hallas]

I don't think you could possibly be any more wrong regarding the attractiveness of the MD program. Its a great location, a great campus, top-notch facilities. Very well-respected academically although thats of less importance to most basketball recruits.

The massive appeal of the school highlights how poor of a job Gary has done recruiting. He's gotta do better.

I don't think I had the best experience at Univ. of Maryland, so I think I'm biased, but I don't really see the location or the campus as a huge plus. I do think that they do great with the facilities, so that is a huge bonus. They are certainly not a plus academically (around 45-50 on US News).

But like I said, it could be my personal experience tinting my glasses negatively.

[Mackus]

I don't think I had the best experience at Univ. of Maryland, so I think I'm biased, but I don't really see the location or the campus as a huge plus. I do think that they do great with the facilities, so that is a huge bonus. They are certainly not a plus academically (around 45-50 on US News).

But like I said, it could be my personal experience tinting my glasses negatively.Certain programs are rated better than others academically (Engineering and Business specifically are very highly rated), but overall its still pretty highly regarded as far as public schools go. Thats a plus, in my book, but again, academics aren't very much of a concern to 90% of the basketball recruits.

I think the campus is great. The location is certainly a plus, its a 15-minute Metro ride from DC and a 40-minute drive to Baltimore.

[Dr. FLK]

On the topic of general recruiting, I personally don't think that Maryland has enough to offer as a school for it to stand on its own two feet as a desired destination among top-flight recruits.

Georgetown is right around the corner, with its history, academic reputation, and location. A few hours south you have UNC and Duke. While Duke's history is slightly more recent, both schools still have a basketball history. And superior academic reputations. (You could make an argument with UNC academically, but they still have us beat in terms of history.) I could go on and on with my list.

I think this highlights Williams's recruiting failures more - he already has an uphill battle, and he's sliding down the hill instead of gaining ground.

The school is right in the middle of 2 recruiting hot beds. They have a NC banner flying in one of the finest facilities on the east coast (maybe in the country). They play in a great conference with tremendous national exposure. It's pathetic that they can't keep the top local talent.

[BaltBird 24]

Very well-respected academically although thats of less importance to most basketball recruits.


Yeah, I highly doubt a Michael Beasley, a Carmelo Anthony, a Rudy Gay, or even a Jeff Green is going to make his choice based on how well respected the school is.

People with no future in basketball like a Dave Neal, Braxton Dupree, Will Bowers may care about that but they don't mean a whole lot to a team.

[Todd-O]

Certain programs are rated better than others academically (Engineering and Business specifically are very highly rated), but overall its still pretty highly regarded as far as public schools go. Thats a plus, in my book, but again, academics aren't very much of a concern to 90% of the basketball recruits.

I think the campus is great. The location is certainly a plus, its a 15-minute Metro ride from DC and a 40-minute drive to Baltimore.

I love the Terps... and have to both agree and disagree here.

(Agree) It's a school that has definitely been on the rise academically.

(Agree) It is a train ride away from the city, yes. But... come on... let's be honest here. However there are tons of schools that are near great cities... or even in them.

(Disagree) When you talk about the Campus you talk about the physical campus and the town around it. It is nice.... it's okay. But it, in no way, compares to the campuses of Carolina or Duke... and those are only comparisons because they are direct competitors. But I have seen so many beautiful college campuses that ooze prestige and learning... College Park doesn't exactly make the cut. Sorry, but it's true.

Also... College Park is kind of dumpy. Not that it's the arm-pit of society... not that there aren't worse college towns...didn't mean that... but I have been to so many better college towns.

(Agree and Disagree... even though this wasn't directly cited) The Comcast Center is beautiful to the eye (I still preferred Cole, from a fan's perspective...).

In sum, the College Park Campus and its surrounds aren't a major draw. The Comcast Center (from a player's perspective) is a draw... but outside of that, nothing is magnetic.

[MD-East]

I saw Roscoe play this past weekend in a tournament in Salisbury, and he didn't impress me too much or maybe he wasn't trying to hard. Average shooter and not as athletic as I expected.

He is very long though and still midway through his junior season.

[Mashed Potatoes]

My friend who teaches at Walbrook just sent me a text saying Roy Williams is in the gym right now to watch Roscoe. That's never a good sign for MD fans.

[PaulBako]

Why can't Gary go out and recruit good players?

[BaltBird 24]

Why can't Gary go out and recruit good players?

It's too much work. Why go out and bust your tail for an elite recruit when you can settle for 2 and 3 star types?

[YardBirds13]

This year's Maryland team is starting to look a lot like the Virginia team two years ago that made the NCAA Tourney to me.

First off, they are undersized and their success is almost completely in the hands of their guards. If Vasquez and Bowie and Hayes etc. don't play well they literally have no chance because there is no fall back option. Very much like that Virginia team, who had no chance to win if Singletary and Reynolds weren't hitting shots.

Their resume is also looking somewhat similar. That season, UVa played a good OOC schedule, beating Arizona and Gonzaga, and losing a couple other games against big time opponents. They also stunk up the joint in that Puerto Rico tournament, losing to Appalachian State and Utah.

Very similar to Maryland this year, who got nice wins against Michigan and Michigan State, and also lost a couple other games to tough OOC teams. The loss to Morgan State is what really reminded me of that UVa team, and that's this point.

As long as you can a) have some good OOC wins to fall back on and b) put it behind you, a bad loss like this doesn't kill your team. A is true for the Terps, we shall see if B comes true.

That year UVa won 11 league games and tied Carolina for the regular season title, but they had a pretty weak schedule so they didn't have a lot of good wins. MD plays a much better ACC schedule this year. I'd say 9 wins and they are right on the bubble, with a chance for a win and in scenario in the ACC tournament. 10 wins and they are safe. (Especially if they can knock off Duke, Wake or Carolina)

My point here is people. don't kill them yet. Teams can bounce back from a bad loss. WE'll have to see what the Terps do.

[inmn]

My friend who teaches at Walbrook just sent me a text saying Roy Williams is in the gym right now to watch Roscoe. That's never a good sign for MD fans.

Roy is handling Roscoe personally although I don't think they (or Duke) have offered him yet as they only have one to give (unless someone leaves) and is waiting on Harrison Barnes first. Duke is also waiting on Barnes with Josh Smith and others in the mix. Roscoe has offers form everyone.....ask yourself if you were an elite recruit with such a mess at College Park would they be in your top 5????

[oriole_way]

On rivals.com, a recent article by Jerry Smith implies that the two schools with the best shot at Roscoe Smith are UNC and GU.

UNC hasn't offerred yet as Harrison Barnes is their top priority. (So maybe they will or won't offer depending on whether Barnes commits to them. That's my opinion.)

GU has offerred and apparently Smith is JTIII's top priority. But Smith obviously haven't accepted yet.

(I don't know how accurate these articles are or aren't. Just passing along the summary.)

[inmn]

Same old story............

Small forward Roscoe Smith is the 11th-ranked player in the Class of 2010 and lives in Baltimore – less than an hour from Maryland’s campus. Schools from all over the country (UCLA, Kansas, LSU, Florida, Georgetown and others) have gone out of their way to be at Smith’s games, but Smith’s father said he hasn’t seen Williams since the end of the summer.
“I’ve seen some of the assistants, but they haven’t been around as much as some of the ones from other schools,” said Brian Thompson, Roscoe’s dad. “I like the Maryland coaches, but I can’t say they’ve been around as much as the others.”

Thompson said he’s been a lifelong Maryland fan, but he doesn’t sound too convincing when asked if the Terrapins have a chance at signing his son.

“Yeah,” he said, “I guess they’re still in it.”

I did love the quote from Marshall's dad:
“I’m not sure Gary Williams would know who we were if we sat next to him on a bus.”
http://rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/basketball/news;_ylt=Ao33E7.xaH59cNHit0rsWVnevbYF?slug=jn-williams020909&prov=yhoo&type=lgns

[Three Run Homer]

On the topic of general recruiting, I personally don't think that Maryland has enough to offer as a school for it to stand on its own two feet as a desired destination among top-flight recruits.

Georgetown is right around the corner, with its history, academic reputation, and location. A few hours south you have UNC and Duke. While Duke's history is slightly more recent, both schools still have a basketball history. And superior academic reputations. (You could make an argument with UNC academically, but they still have us beat in terms of history.) I could go on and on with my list.

I think this highlights Williams's recruiting failures more - he already has an uphill battle, and he's sliding down the hill instead of gaining ground.

If the Terps were only losing recruits to Duke, UNC and GU then I might buy this argument. But they're also losing guys to Syracuse, Villanova, Virginia, Tennessee, Texas A+M...

TEXAS A+M??????????

There's no excuse for that.