OH Fantasy League Thread

[vatech1994]

A group of us are in a fantasy league together. Specifically, the participants are Hank Scorpio (our fearless leader), Moose Milligan, McNulty, Mackus, Lucky Jim, Icterus Galbula, Mashed Potatoes, PeteCanes, Agent Orange, and myself. Serious bragging rights are on the line. If the guys will agree, this can be the designated thread for gratuitous trash talking, bragging, whining, and just generally giving each other the business.

We had our draft yesterday. I'm fairly sure I got owned badly. I'm a total nube at this thing.

However, I didn't have the worst day today.

That honor goes to Mackus who selected Joe Mauer as his starting catcher. Read it and weep my friend:
http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/spring2009/news/story?id=3965542

Don't worry buddy. I hear Ramon Hernandez is still available.

BTW, I've got to hand out a little more crap to Moose who selected Matt Wieters in the second round. I joked about it, but he actually did it. Of course, he'll get the last laugh if Wieters is called up on April 17th and hits 30 dingers this year.

Also, Mashed Potatoes somehow managed to select ARod in the first round so that deserves some sort of smackdown too.

Before anyone else can type it, yes I did select Longoria with the 5th pick. And yes, that is about 10 picks to early. :D:p

We need to figure out what we're playing for. I'm all for weekly, monthly, and season long signature wagers. Who's in?

Let's have some fun and may be the best team win....

[McNulty]

I dominate the scene. That's all you need to know.

[Moose Milligan]

I took Wieters in the 2nd round so none of you bastards could have him. I'm damn proud of it, too.

You can bet one things for certain, I'll get tired after the first 3 weeks in and stop filling out my lineup or combing the waiver wire.

If one of you is lucky, I might give up Pujols before the deadline, but it might cost a beer or two at an O's game.

Cheers, punks.

[RShack]

Given the cast of characters, this could be good ;-)

Also, since I know zilch about fantasy baseball, I will find it interesting if/when any of you guys post tidbits about what's cool vs. goofy about the whole thing, baseball-wise.

[McNulty]

You can bet one things for certain, I'll get tired after the first 3 weeks in and stop filling out my lineup or combing the waiver wire.



It must be tough to keep track of your mom AND a fantasy team. I know I get exhausted with just the former occupying my time.

[Lucky Jim]

I'd like to note that:

1. VaTech showed a respect and level of positivity throughout the entire draft that was downright sickening. Indeed, by my count, he found nearly 73% of all picks to be "good picks" and stated as much in the chat.

2. I drafted Victor Martinez. Which - alone - is probably why I'm going to lose. (Though I don't think anyone picked up on my late-round draft of Jeff Clement, which could come in handy.)

3. I'm relying on Scott Kazmir to stay healthy. Argh.

4. This is my first fantasy baseball experience. I managed to participate, even though I was in the New Orleans airport, after a weekend of bachelor party activity. I was deeply tired and either still inebriated or so hungover that I was operating at very low-order brain functionality.

But there's nothing like devoting hours of your weekend to a profession that is paid gobs of money to feign enthusiasm for the kinds of activities the rest of us do for free. And then, having finished with the strippers...

...how impressive is it that I actually managed to do the fantasy draft the next day? :wedge:

Seriously, though. I can't imagine I'm going to do all that well. We'll see.

[Moose Milligan]

It must be tough to keep track of your mom AND a fantasy team. I know I get exhausted with just the former occupying my time.

Yeah, you're right...but your moms locked in my basement so I don't have to worry about keeping track of her.

[Lucky Jim]

Yeah, you're right...but your moms locked in my basement so I don't have to worry about keeping track of her.

Eh. You needn't worry. I trained her not to wander far from the house.

[McNulty]

Jim, its not like you overdrafted Victor. You'll be fine, especially if Seattle leaves Clement alone and just lets him play.

Vatech did, by my count, think that 74% of picks were "good picks". Seriously, he is one nice guy, and its going to be tough taking him down when he was such a gentlemen during the draft.

But as Bunk once told my namesake, you are that special kinda (butt)hole, aren't you?

Once again, I dominate the scene. And that includes Moose's Mom.

Finally, to Moose, thanks for locking my mom in your basement. Doin' us all a favor there. :D

[Lucky Jim]

My squad, btw.

C- Victor Martinez
1B- Lance Berkman
2B- Brian Roberts
3B- Chipper Jones
SS – Jose Reyes
OF – Jason Bay
OF – Magglio Ordonez
OF – Andre Ethier
Util – Pat Burrell
BN – Nick Swisher
BN – Brad Hawpe
BN – Jeff Clement
BN – Carlos Guillen (autopick when I tried to get a beer.)
BN – Orlando Cabrera

SP – Felix Hernandez
SP – Scott Kazmir
RP – Jonathon Broxton
RP – J.J. Putz
P – Erik Bedard
P – Clayton Kershaw
P – Chris Ray

[BaltimoreTerp]

Can you make your league page and everything public? I have a feeling it's going to be...

<img src="http://badcontrol.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/08/epicwin.jpg"></img>

[Moose Milligan]

Can you make your league page and everything public? I have a feeling it's going to be...

<img src="http://badcontrol.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/08/epicwin.jpg"></img>

I'm sure we could probably get banned for things that aren't affiliated at all with the OH, so thats probably not a good idea. But take it up with Scorpio, we'll see.

[tywright]

Is this a roto league?...if so, LJ you need some more SPs! And Putz isn't closing

[Mackus]

I'll try to keep showering twice daily, so at least my balls won't taste so damn bad when you guys are all sucking on them.

My roster:

C - Joe Mauer
1B - Carlos Pena
2B - Robinson Cano
3B - Hank Blalock
SS - Jhonny Peralta
OF - Grady Sizemore
OF - Manny Ramirez
OF - Vladimir Guerrero
Util - Vernon Wells
BN - Ryan Theriot
BN - Xavier Nady
BN - Travis Snider

SP - Cole Hamels
SP - Dan Haren
RP - Carlos Marmol
RP - Jose Valverde
P - Edinson Volquez
P - Francisco Cordero
P - Chien-Ming Wang
BN - Ted Lilly
BN - Chris Volstad

Gonna need to find some steals, but everything else should be solid.

[Lucky Jim]

Is this a roto league?...if so, LJ you need some more SPs! And Putz isn't closing

Oh, Putz will be a closer soon enough. But Broxton is going to close for LAD - and he's going to be good.

I was wondering about the starting pitching. I should probably grab another starter - though I do think Bedard was a nice pick up late in the draft. I am aware of the need to pick up another pitcher, though.

BTW, I truly had no idea what I was doing.

[TGO]

Oh, Putz will be a closer soon enough. But Broxton is going to close for LAD - and he's going to be good.

I was wondering about the starting pitching. I should probably grab another starter - though I do think Bedard was a nice pick up late in the draft. I am aware of the need to pick up another pitcher, though.

BTW, I truly had no idea what I was doing.

I would say you should grab two more pitchers, at least.

[Lucky Jim]

I would say you should grab two more pitchers, at least.

Yeah yeah yeah. I know. It's early, it's a ten-player league. No worries. (I.e., I'm working on it - to no real disadvantage that I can see.)

Let's focus on something else, like Mashed Potatoes strategy of drafting Derek Jeter, Mark Teixeira, Dustin Pedroia and Alex Rodriguez.

[vatech1994]

Can you make your league page and everything public?

This is a great idea if we can do it.

[vatech1994]

I'll try to keep showering twice daily, so at least my balls won't taste so damn bad when you guys are all sucking on them.

This and the quotes about people's mothers was exactly what I was looking for when I opened this thread. Nice!!!!!

Mackus,
Any idea when Mauer will be able to stand up straight again? Is the kidney transplant scheduled yet?

[vatech1994]

My band of marauding, mythic mastodons are


C Russell Martin (LAD - C,3B)
1B Justin Morneau (Min - 1B)
2B Alexei RamÃ*rez (CWS - 2B,SS,OF)
3B Evan Longoria (TB - 3B)
SS Michael Young (Tex - SS)
OF Carlos Quentin (CWS - OF)
OF Jacoby Ellsbury (Bos - OF)
OF Adam Dunn (Was - 1B,OF)
UT/DH Lastings Milledge (Was - OF)
BN Howie Kendrick (LAA - 2B)
BN Johnny Damon (NYY - OF)
BN Adam Lind (Tor - OF)


SP James Shields (TB - SP)
SP David Price (TB - SP)
RP Joe Nathan (Min - RP)
RP Joakim Soria (KC - RP)
P Justin Verlander (Det - SP)
P Scott Baker (Min - SP)
P Aaron Harang (Cin - SP)
BN Kevin Slowey (Min - SP)
BN Fausto Carmona (Cle - SP)


Yeh, I know that I've got no back up catcher. Just knowing that Ramon is out there for the taking has given me enough peace of mind that I didn't feel the need to draft a back up catcher. ;)

[Hank Scorpio]

You jackasses have really run with this thread, huh? Leavin' the old man behind, are we?

I have no clue about making the league public or whatever, but I'm quite sure the happenings will be documented throughout the season right here...

Here's my squad.


C Ryan Doumit
1B Kevin Youkilis
2B Chase Utley
3B Aubrey Huff
SS Hanley RamÃ*rez
OF Nick Markakis
OF Nate McLouth
OF Ryan Ludwick
Util Adam Jones
BN Carlos Delgado
BN Milton Bradley
BN Ty Wigginton
BN Plácido Polanco




SP Roy Halladay
SP Francisco Liriano
RP Brian Fuentes
RP Trevor Hoffman
P Daisuke Matsuzaka
P Ryan Dempster
P Kevin Gregg
BN Jeremy Guthrie

[Icterus galbula]

Here is the team that I drafted:



C Brian McCann (Atl - C)
1B Adrián González (SD - 1B)
2B Ian Kinsler (Tex - 2B)
3B Ryan Zimmerman (Was - 3B)
SS Troy Tulowitzki (Col - SS)
OF Ryan Braun (Mil - OF)
OF Corey Hart (Mil - OF)
OF Jermaine Dye (CWS - OF)
Util David Ortiz (Bos - Util)
SP Tim Lincecum (SF - SP)
SP Chad Billingsley (LAD - SP)
RP Francisco RodrÃ*guez (NYM - RP)
RP Matt Capps (Pit - RP)
P Cliff Lee (Cle - SP)
P John Danks (CWS - SP)
P Huston Street (Col - RP)
BN Chris Young (Ari - OF)
BN Miguel Tejada (Hou - SS)
BN Kevin Kouzmanoff (SD - 3B)
BN Josh Johnson (Fla - SP)
BN Ubaldo Jiménez (Col - SP)

And when I drafted them:



1. (7) Ryan Braun
2. (14) Ian Kinsler
3. (27) Tim Lincecum
4. (34) Adrián González
5. (47) Brian McCann
6. (54) Troy Tulowitzki
7. (67) Chad Billingsley
8. (74) David Ortiz
9. (87) Francisco RodrÃ*guez
10. (94) Corey Hart
11. (107) Cliff Lee
12. (114) Ryan Zimmerman
13. (127) Matt Capps
14. (134) Jermaine Dye
15. (147) John Danks
16. (154) Chris Young
17. (167) Josh Johnson
18. (174) Huston Street
19. (187) Miguel Tejada
20. (194) Kevin Kouzmanoff
21. (207) Ubaldo Jiménez

I think we've got a pretty smart league, or maybe just one that overthinks things. In what other Fantasy leagues would you see David Ortiz fall to the 8th round, K-Rod fall to the 9th and Cliff Lee fall to the 11th? I guess when I took all three of these players I was figuring their overratedness was getting overrated by our league, or something.

I too need to get some more steals, but beyond that, I like how balanced my hitting is from top to bottom. I'm definitely not too reliant on any one or two players. My OF might be my weakest position.

I love the potential my starting roation has, and feel cool with saves.


Anyways, ya'lls gonna get tea-bagged Reggie Love style by my team.

[Lucky Jim]

My draft order. I think Bedard in the 12th and Kershaw in the 13th will turn out to be good picks.

The one thing that I looked for pretty consistently is OBP and OPS. My OPS based on last year is solidly over .800. And I've got about almost a hundred steals or so between Reyes and Roberts. Not a ton of power, but nearly everyone good for 25 or so HRs. Had some timing issues (bathroom and beer) that caused me to accidentally draft Ray when I meant to pick someone else and landed me Guillen - but if/when Chipper goes down, Guillen might be a good pick.


Be Home Blylevens
1. (4) José Reyes
2. (17) Lance Berkman
3. (24) Jason Bay
4. (37) Brian Roberts
5. (44) Chipper Jones
6. (57) VÃ*ctor MartÃ*nez
7. (64) Félix Hernández
8. (77) Scott Kazmir
9. (84) Magglio Ordóñez
10. (97) Jonathan Broxton
11. (104) Andre Ethier
12. (117) Erik Bedard
13. (124) Clayton Kershaw
14. (137) Jeff Clement
15. (144) Chris Ray
16. (157) J.J. Putz
17. (164) Nick Swisher
18. (177) Brad Hawpe
19. (184) Pat Burrell
20. (197) Carlos Guillén
21. (204) Orlando Cabrera

[McNulty]

I still have yet to see a team that can touch mine. For all the kids out there, he's what a dominating squad looks like:


C Jorge Posada
1B Garrett Atkins
2B Mark DeRosa
3B David Wright
SS Jimmy Rollins
OF Carlos Beltrán
OF Matt Holliday
OF Carlos Lee
Util Joey Votto
SP Rich Harden
SP Joba Chamberlain
RP Jonathan Papelbon
RP Kerry Wood
P Derek Lowe
P Joey Devine
P Chad Qualls
BN Edwin Encarnación
BN Elijah Dukes
BN Javier Vázquez
BN Carlos Zambrano
BN Brett Myers

[AgentOrange]

I still have yet to see a team that can touch mine. For all the kids out there, he's what a dominating squad looks like:

It hurts so good my friend.


1. (8) Miguel Cabrera 1B,3B
2. (13) B.J. Upton OF
3. (28) Prince Fielder 1B
4. (33) Brandon Phillips 2B
5. (48) Matt Kemp OF
6. (53) Jake Peavy SP
7. (68) Chris Davis 1B,3B
8. (73) J.J. Hardy SS
9. (88) Mariano Rivera RP
10. (93) Jon Lester SP
11. (108) Adam Wainwright SP
12. (113) Zack Greinke SP
13. (128) Bengie Molina C
14. (133) Heath Bell RP
15. (148) Mike González RP
16. (153) Jayson Werth OF
17. (168) Jered Weaver SP
18. (173) Justin Duchscherer SP
19. (188) José López 1B,2B
20. (193) Shin-Soo Choo OF
21. (208) Jose Arredondo RP

[BaltimoreTerp]

I'm sure we could probably get banned for things that aren't affiliated at all with the OH, so thats probably not a good idea. But take it up with Scorpio, we'll see.

I just don't know how it works with other people viewing your league on whatever site it is. In other words, whether it is as a rule league-members only.

Can someone post it (or PM it) and we'll see?

[McNulty]

It hurts so good my friend.

Ha, well, I applauded your Choo pick at the time. Tip O' the cap to it now. But I am still going to "Moose's Mom" you all over this league.

[Hank Scorpio]

Ha, well, I applauded your Choo pick at the time. Tip O' the cap to it now. But I am still going to "Moose's Mom" you all over this league.

You're starting pitching is El Stinko, McNutts.

[McNulty]

You're starting pitching is El Stinko, McNutts.

Get back to me in a few months on that. Pitching is always very fluid, IMO. I take high upside guys in the draft and dominate the waiver wire (just like I dominate everything else).

Someone needs to put Moose on suicide watch after Santana and Napoli.

[AgentOrange]

Get back to me in a few months on that. Pitching is always very fluid, IMO. I take high upside guys in the draft and dominate the waiver wire (just like I dominate everything else).

Someone needs to put Moose on suicide watch after Santana and Napoli.

Did you forget that Moose doesn't care about his team?

He is "too cool" for that, as evidence from the team he drafted.

[McNulty]

Did you forget that Moose doesn't care about his team?

He is "too cool" for that, as evidence from the team he drafted.

The team he drafted is simply evidence that he's a moron. But you know that already.

He cares...he has precious little else going on in his life.

[AgentOrange]

The team he drafted is simply evidence that he's a moron. But you know that already.

He cares...he has precious little else going on in his life.

Just for fun, lets take a gander at the team he produced.


Milligan's Mashers
1. (2) Albert Pujols
2. (19) Matt Wieters
3. (22) Carl Crawford
4. (39) Ichiro Suzuki
5. (42) Curtis Granderson
6. (59) Stephen Drew
7. (62) Dan Uggla
8. (79) Ervin Santana
9. (82) Adrián Béltre
10. (99) Roy Oswalt
11. (102) B.J. Ryan
12. (119) Matt Garza
13. (122) Raúl Ibañez
14. (139) Mike Napoli
15. (142) Max Scherzer
16. (159) James Loney
17. (162) Rafael Soriano
18. (179) Mike Pelfrey
19. (182) Mike Aviles
20. (199) Troy Glaus
21. (202) Cameron Maybin

:wedge:

[vatech1994]

Get back to me in a few months on that. Pitching is always very fluid, IMO. I take high upside guys in the draft and dominate the waiver wire (just like I dominate everything else).


Talk about taking some high upside, high risk guys. How about?

SP David Price (TB - SP)
P Justin Verlander (Det - SP)
BN Fausto Carmona (Cle - SP)

Two of them sucked last year and the other has never started a ML game. LOL, we'll see

[vatech1994]

Just for fun, lets take a gander at the team he produced.


Milligan's Mashers
1. (2) Albert Pujols
2. (19) Matt Wieters
3. (22) Carl Crawford
4. (39) Ichiro Suzuki
5. (42) Curtis Granderson
6. (59) Stephen Drew
7. (62) Dan Uggla
8. (79) Ervin Santana
9. (82) Adrián Béltre
10. (99) Roy Oswalt
11. (102) B.J. Ryan
12. (119) Matt Garza
13. (122) Raúl Ibañez
14. (139) Mike Napoli
15. (142) Max Scherzer
16. (159) James Loney
17. (162) Rafael Soriano
18. (179) Mike Pelfrey
19. (182) Mike Aviles
20. (199) Troy Glaus
21. (202) Cameron Maybin

:wedge:

I like his 1st, 5th, 7th, 10th, 12th, 16th, 20th, & 21st round picks. ;)

And that is nowhere near 73% or 74% of his picks :rofl:

[vatech1994]

In the interest of full disclosure, this was my draft order

1. (5) Evan Longoria 3B
2. (16) Justin Morneau 1B
3. (25) Carlos Quentin OF
4. (36) Russell Martin C,3B
5. (45) Alexei RamÃ*rez 2B,SS,OF
6. (56) Jacoby Ellsbury OF
7. (65) Joe Nathan RP
8. (76) Adam Dunn 1B,OF
9. (85) Joakim Soria RP
10. (96) James Shields SP
11. (105) David Price SP
12. (116) Howie Kendrick 2B
13. (125) Justin Verlander SP
14. (136) Michael Young SS
15. (145) Lastings Milledge OF
16. (156) Scott Baker SP
17. (165) Aaron Harang SP
18. (176) Johnny Damon OF
19. (185) Kevin Slowey SP
20. (196) Fausto Carmona SP
21. (205) Adam Lind OF


I think my biggest reaches were Longoria and Ellsbury. In other words, these are good players that I probably drafted a little early.

I think my biggest risk was Carlos Quentin. I drafted him very high for a guy that has had one good year and who finished the year with wrist problems, which can reduce power numbers after returning.

I've got to be honest though. I'm digging my picks 7 - 17.

I know that I'm feeling pretty good about the steals category with Longoria, Ramirez, Ellsbury, Young, Milledge, and Damon on my squad. That should be 140 steals or so.

[vatech1994]

Speaking of speed, I'm very impressed with McNulty and Icterus. Think of all the money these guys are going to save on watches since none of them are fast enough to require a second hand on their watch. :p

[Lucky Jim]

...that I've solved my starting pitching shortage. Mark Buehrle and Joe Saunders, welcome to the Be Home Blylevens.

Not exactly fantasy studs but should be good for ERA, wins and not bad on WHIP. I've got plenty of Ks from King Felix, Kazmir, Bedard and Kershaw, I think.

Everyone can rest easy now.

[Hank Scorpio]

In the interest of full disclosure, this was my draft order


I think my biggest reaches were Longoria and Ellsbury. In other words, these are good players that I probably drafted a little early.

I think my biggest risk was Carlos Quentin. I drafted him very high for a guy that has had one good year and who finished the year with wrist problems, which can reduce power numbers after returning.

I've got to be honest though. I'm digging my picks 7 - 17.

I know that I'm feeling pretty good about the steals category with Longoria, Ramirez, Ellsbury, Young, Milledge, and Damon on my squad. That should be 140 steals or so.

It's not good when your 1st round pick is a REACH, my man.

Not good!!!!!

[McNulty]

Speaking of speed, I'm very impressed with McNulty and Icterus. Think of all the money these guys are going to save on watches since none of them are fast enough to require a second hand on their watch. :p

Are you saying I'm slow, or my team is slow? Because yes to the first one, and no to the second. :D

[Moose Milligan]

Wasn't vatech the one yapping about someone making a "reach pick" in something like the 19th round?

You guys can all go to hell, btw. I got Wieters, I declare victory.

[Hank Scorpio]

Wasn't vatech the one yapping about someone making a "reach pick" in something like the 19th round?

You guys can all go to hell, btw. I got Wieters, I declare victory.

He's no Justin Smoak.

[Moose Milligan]

He's no Justin Smoak.

Ahhh, but who is?

It's a shame he wasn't available in our league, I would have taken him. I'm not kidding.

[vatech1994]

Are you saying I'm slow, or my team is slow? Because yes to the first one, and no to the second. :D

I'm saying that both your thought processes and your team's time from home to 3rd can be accurated recorded with a sun dial (except Beltran & Rollins). :clap3:

[McNulty]

I'm saying that both your thought processes and your team's time from home to 3rd can be accurated recorded with a sun dial (except Beltran & Rollins). :clap3:

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3057/3017085006_190e65599f.jpg

You dirt, me shoulders.

[vatech1994]

It's not good when your 1st round pick is a REACH, my man.

Not good!!!!!

Well, let's take a look at who I passed on the 1st round.

Picks 6-15 were:
Round 1
6. Grady Sizemore You Can't Booze - Good pick, was one of the other guys I was considering

7. Ryan Braun Simon Phoenix - I'm just not sold on this guy for some reason. His OPS dropped over 100 pts last year although it was still very good. I just see a lot of holes in his swing when I watch him so I fear he could drop to 20-25 homers or hit 260. I will admit this is just gut though. I've got no real data to back me up.

8. Miguel Cabrera The Felix P.A's - To quickly sum it up, this guy is fat and doesn't play the game right so I can't pick him despite being a ridiculously good hitter. I think he is an injury waiting to happen. I also think Detroit is headed for a bad year that will end in a fire sale and who knows what will happen if this guy gets even less motivated. Again, this is just gut talking... BTW, you realize this 1B had an OPS under 900 last year, doesn't steal at all, and doesn't score a lot of runs, right?

9. Ã�lex RodrÃ*guez Hank Scorpio... - I don't like this pick based on the injury and the offseason stuff adding pressure to a guy that doesn't handle pressure real well IMO.

10. Josh Hamilton Country Blum... - Much like Carlos Quentin to me. He has one full year of stats. Amazing talent, but I can't go #5 pick for him.

Round 2
1. Ryan Howard Country Blum... - The ultimate feast/famine guy. He is going to kill his owner in Avg & SB, be a beast in HR & RBI, and do ok in R & OPS. I'd worry about him because his avg has gone 313, 268, 251 the last 3 years. OPS from 1084 to 976 to 882. Not good trends

2. Mark Teixeira Hank Scorpio... - Good player, excellent pick here. I'd have selected him in 2nd round if Kinsler was gone, but I was basically just as happy to get Morneau.

3. B.J. Upton The Felix P.A's - Good pick, I really thought about him too believe it or not, but the power numbers were way down last year. I happen to agree with opinion that this was due to his shoulder injury which is now healed, but he isn't as good a bet as Longoria IMO.

4. Ian Kinsler Simon Phoenix - This was the guy I really wanted to take, but I didn't have the cojones. He is a freaking stat machine, but he can't stay healthy. Too much risk in 1st round, but I debated really hard. This guy scored 102 runs in 121 games last year. If he stays healthy Simon is going to look like a genius, but that is a big if since he has never played more than 130 games in a season.
http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/players/stats?playerId=6197

5. Manny RamÃ*rez You Can't Booze - Great hitter, but I just can't take him now that he isn't playing for a contract and the offseason stuff that occurred. Manny just doesn't seem like a turn-the-other-cheek guy to me though he has been saying all the right things this spring thus far. Great pick #15 though.

You know, I actually feel better about my choice now that I've written all my thoughts down. If Longoria stays healthy, I think he'll hold up his draft position quite well.

Oh yeah, to make this post fit in this thread, your mom is stinky and other bad things.... :mwahaha:

[vatech1994]

Wasn't vatech the one yapping about someone making a "reach pick" in something like the 19th round?


I've been schooled, touche

[McNulty]

10. Josh Hamilton Country Blum... - Much like Carlos Quentin to me. He has one full year of stats. Amazing talent, but I can't go #5 pick for him.


How does Longoria differ from "He has one full year of stats"?

[vatech1994]

How does Longoria differ from "He has one full year of stats"?

He doesn't. However, he does differ in the following ways:

1) He plays 3rd rather than OF which is a tougher place to find producers (positional scarcity)
2) He doesn't have the history of substance abuse. Don't get me wrong. I think this is a minor consideration overall, but does factor in the risk a little bit IMO.
3) Josh is a really muscular guy playing a very fluid position (CF). I could see him getting dinged up out there. Of course, that muscle could also protect him.

I think Hamilton was a fine pick. He could win the freaking MVP this year. I just think Longoria is a better risk. He has done nothing but rip things up at every stage of the minors. I could be wrong. Maybe he'll have a sophmore slump. We'll see.

I definitely took a risk with Carlos Quentin in the same basic way except Quentin has less talent/upside.

[McNulty]

He doesn't. However, he does differ in the following ways:

1) He plays 3rd rather than OF which is a tougher place to find producers (positional scarcity)
2) He doesn't have the history of substance abuse. Don't get me wrong. I think this is a minor consideration overall, but does factor in the risk a little bit IMO.
3) Josh is a really muscular guy playing a very fluid position (CF). I could see him getting dinged up out there. Of course, that muscle could also protect him.

I think Hamilton was a fine pick. He could win the freaking MVP this year. I just think Longoria is a better risk. He has done nothing but rip things up at every stage of the minors. I could be wrong. Maybe he'll have a sophmore slump. We'll see.

I definitely took a risk with Carlos Quentin in the same basic way except Quentin has less talent/upside.

Fair enough. You are still going down though.

[Icterus galbula]

I posted this on our league message board but only got one response:


Both Max. Limits seem a little high to me.

Pitching has an 1800 pitching limit. Lets say someone has 6 total SP and 3 total RP (like me, for instance) If all of those starters get 200 IP, which is unlikely, and all RP get 60 IP, thats still just 1380 IP.

Position player wise, its 180 games max. With 5 total bench spots, and some of those going to pitchers, it would be about impossible to max out our limits there too.

Are the maxes designed so there aren't really limits and we should just shuttle players into our lineup as often as possible?

Or, should we do 162 game limits on our position players and less of an innning max for pitchers so that the limits could potentially be a constraint?

I'm fine either way, just pointing it out.


The more I think about it the more I think we need to lower the limits. Thoughts?

[Jimbo81]

First off, I was at AO's house during the draft and yes I did help with the picks and yes we were using my Draft program. Anyway, to say Miguel Cabrera plays the wrong way is just silly. He is on his way to a HOF career at 25 yrs old. At 6-4 240, to call that fat is rediculous. He may not be able to handle 3b anymore but look who else had to move to first (Pujols). Now I'm not saying ol chunky Miguel has reached Pujols level but...


I will bet (5 bucks:D) Miguel Cabrera wins a gold glove and a batting title at first base in the next 3yrs.


Signed
Agent Orange's partner in crime

[Lucky Jim]

Goodbye Joe Saunders, hello Gil Meche.

I should probably drop a bench player and pick up another reliever but I'm not sure who should go. Tough call.

Any advice on how many relievers it's wise to carry?

[Lucky Jim]

I posted this on our league message board but only got one response:




The more I think about it the more I think we need to lower the limits. Thoughts?

No thoughts, but the logic makes sense to me.

My biggest gripe is that walks have no offensive value save for OPS, which undervalues walks.

[AgentOrange]

Well, let's take a look at who I passed on the 1st round.

8. Miguel Cabrera The Felix P.A's - To quickly sum it up, this guy is fat and doesn't play the game right so I can't pick him despite being a ridiculously good hitter. I think he is an injury waiting to happen. I also think Detroit is headed for a bad year that will end in a fire sale and who knows what will happen if this guy gets even less motivated. Again, this is just gut talking... BTW, you realize this 1B had an OPS under 900 last year, doesn't steal at all, and doesn't score a lot of runs, right?

Round 2


3. B.J. Upton The Felix P.A's - Good pick, I really thought about him too believe it or not, but the power numbers were way down last year. I happen to agree with opinion that this was due to his shoulder injury which is now healed, but he isn't as good a bet as Longoria IMO.



Alright. I will address these two picks from me that you passed up on.

Note that Cabrera plays 3b. And note the second half he had last year. .302/.350/.601 21 Hrs

Lets check out your boy : .268/.331/.570 11 HRs

Oh man. Considering they play the same position. I would look for a stunning year from MCab and would rate him over Longoria.

And just because my guy is "Fat and Slow" doesn't mean that your 3b is going to tear it up considering last year he only had 7 steals compared to 1 from Tub Rock. :laughlol:

And now onto Upton. I don't need him to hit me bombs. Didn't you just see my 3b? My 1B is Prince Fielder and my Util is Chris Davis. I am not going to have a problem with Home Runs sir. And I won't have a problem with steals when Upton grabs me 40 and hits 40 doubles.

[McNulty]

And now onto Upton. I don't need him to hit me bombs. Didn't you just see my 3b? My 1B is Prince Fielder and my Util is Chris Davis. I am not going to have a problem with Home Runs sir. And I won't have a problem with steals when Upton grabs me 40 and hits 40 doubles.

I agree completely. You only need to stay afloat in roto with steals (more specifically, not take a 1, 2 or 3 in that category).

All you really need is one great base stealer and a bunch of guys who can contribute a few here and there. Steals are so easy to get a boost from that I refuse to sweat that one...especially when I have Beltran, Wright, Rollins, and Holliday.

[vatech1994]

I agree completely. You only need to stay afloat in roto with steals (more specifically, not take a 1, 2 or 3 in that category).

All you really need is one great base stealer and a bunch of guys who can contribute a few here and there. Steals are so easy to get a boost from that I refuse to sweat that one...especially when I have Beltran, Wright, Rollins, and Holliday.

I hear ya, but every category counts the same. A 1st in steals and a 4th in HRs is just as good as the other way around. I understand why you're saying that. I've basically got the SB category won right now so I'd downplay it to if I were you. :D

[McNulty]

I hear ya, but every category counts the same. A 1st in steals and a 4th in HRs is just as good as the other way around. I understand why you're saying that. I've basically got the SB category won right now so I'd downplay it to if I were you. :D

You sure you do? Moose's outfield should be good for a ton of steals and very little else. :D

[Lucky Jim]

I hear ya, but every category counts the same. A 1st in steals and a 4th in HRs is just as good as the other way around. I understand why you're saying that. I've basically got the SB category won right now so I'd downplay it to if I were you. :D

I've got about 150 steals in my line-up, you know.

[Lucky Jim]

You sure you do? Moose's outfield should be good for a ton of steals and very little else. :D

Moose's OF is the 1988 Os of our Roto League.

[vatech1994]

I've got about 150 steals in my line-up, you know.

I realize. I'm just posturing. You've got two huge threats in Roberts and Reyes. No doubt about it.

I will refrain from piling on Moose on this one. :)

[Moose Milligan]

I realize. I'm just posturing. You've got two huge threats in Roberts and Reyes. No doubt about it.

I will refrain from piling on Moose on this one. :)

I will refrain from piling on your mother tomorrow night.

[vatech1994]

I will refrain from piling on your mother tomorrow night.

So, they compare your outfield to a LL team and the 1988 Orioles but get nothing from you.

I refrain and get this. I see how it is.

I've got but one thing to say to you:
Say hello to my leeeeeetle friend!!!!!

<Now I shoot you>

figuratively, of course :mwahaha:

[Moose Milligan]

So, they compare your outfield to a LL team and the 1988 Orioles but get nothing from you.

I refrain and get this. I see how it is.

I've got but one thing to say to you:
Say hello to my leeeeeetle friend!!!!!

<Now I shoot you>

figuratively, of course :mwahaha:

See, now I don't think my outfield is THAT bad....devoid of power, yes, but my infield makes up for that. My outfield has good speed.

Of course I've never done this before so I don't know crap about crap. Whatever.

[AgentOrange]

See, now I don't think my outfield is THAT bad....devoid of power, yes, but my infield makes up for that. My outfield has good speed.

Of course I've never done this before so I don't know crap about crap. Whatever.

Man there sure is a lot of "this is my first time" excuses being thrown around.

Sit there and take your beating like a man!

[AgentOrange]

This thread is way too quiet. Where is everyone? I don't want to post in the "post here when you are drunk" thread. I want to keep my S talking in a place where it can do the most damage.

Like how much damage I am going to do when the season starts.

[Moose Milligan]

This thread is way too quiet. Where is everyone? I don't want to post in the "post here when you are drunk" thread. I want to keep my S talking in a place where it can do the most damage.

Like how much damage I am going to do when the season starts.

What has two thumbs and still doesn't care about his team?

This guy.

Yet I still will have fun talking smack at the rest of the knuckledraggers in this friendly competition.

*****BUUUUUUURRRRRRPPPPP******

http://www.legaljuice.com/burp%20belch%20funny.gif

[McNulty]

Not safe for work (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ogid9D0rcEI).

You guys are Batman in this scenario.

[vatech1994]

OK Mashed Potatoes. I'm curious. Did you really just grab David Price when I put him on waivers despite the fact that he is likely to be kept in the minors for 6 weeks or so AND this isn't a keeper league? You have now officially become my nemesis. I will crush you for picking up my strategic drop.

BTW, that was a pretty big blow for Mackus to lose Marmol as a closer and a pretty big boon for Hank to get Gregg as a closer. My respect for Hank is growing daily. Of course, it was so low to begin with it really had no place to go but up. :D

[Scrat1]

When did Nelson Cruz go in y'all's draft?

[AgentOrange]

When did Nelson Cruz go in y'all's draft?

Round 19, pick 9

[AgentOrange]

I posted this on our league message board but only got one response:

Both Max. Limits seem a little high to me.

Pitching has an 1800 pitching limit. Lets say someone has 6 total SP and 3 total RP (like me, for instance) If all of those starters get 200 IP, which is unlikely, and all RP get 60 IP, thats still just 1380 IP.

Position player wise, its 180 games max. With 5 total bench spots, and some of those going to pitchers, it would be about impossible to max out our limits there too.

Are the maxes designed so there aren't really limits and we should just shuttle players into our lineup as often as possible?

Or, should we do 162 game limits on our position players and less of an innning max for pitchers so that the limits could potentially be a constraint?

I'm fine either way, just pointing it out.


The more I think about it the more I think we need to lower the limits. Thoughts?


Any more movement on this?

I think we need to change that this week.

[vatech1994]

I don't have any valuable input as I haven't played enough to figure out what makes sense. However, I do have an opinion. If the numbers are too low it will reward the lazy (I'm looking at you, Moose ;)), because maximizing efficient movement between the bench, waiver wire, and starting line up will be negated by the games played limit. Of course, if it is too high then nobody ever has to worry about it which makes it less fun from that perspective.

I guess I think we should look at it using a statistics viewpoint. The regular season is 183 days long minus 3 days for the All Star Break so 180 days. That means that the absolute most games you could fill positionally is 180 days.

There are days like April 5th and April 20th a couple times a month where there are only a few games being played on a given day. It isn't likely that most of us would be able to field most positions on those days. Do we want to reward those of us who are willing to drop/add to build up the counting stats or do we want to restrict it a bit? I'd advocate that we drop the position player max to 165 or 170 games so you can't be a lazy bum (you know who I'm talking about) and back into the win.

Pitching is tougher to me, but I think we should probably restrict it down some. I would suggest that we restrict it to between 1400 and 1500 so there is some reward for being willing to strategically drop/add guys.

I'm going to show my stupidity again, but I think I've captured the division between counting stats and non-counting stats below. Can someone verify please? I ask this question because I can see a lot of merit in doing BB & K as a per 9 IP ratio rather than a straight counting stat, but I don't think that is what is normally done. If BB & K are straight counting stats, then the decision on the IP limit is pretty important. I can't find this information ANYWHERE on the Yahoo site, but maybe I'm just missing it.

[Edited out because I'm a moron and I don't want future generations to giggle at me any more than is absolutely necessary.]

Counting - Hitters
R, HR, RBI, SB

Non-Counting - Hitters
Avg, OPS

Counting - Pitchers
W, SV, BB, K

Non-Counting - Pitchers
ERA, WHIP

[Icterus galbula]

Good post VaTech. A few thoughts:

1) IP is not an actual stat we are keeping track of in the standings.

2) I think a 1400 IP limit makes sense. We have 7 starting spots (2 of which must be RP.) People have anywhere from 0-4 bench pitchers.
Throwing out the extremes of 4 bench pitchers and 0 bench pitchers, this is would a roster would look like if the owner was able to shuttle in every pitcher for all their innings :
8 Pitchers
(5 Starters x 200) + (3 RP x 70) = 1210
(6 Starters x 200) + (2 RP x 70) = 1340

9 Pitchers
(6 Starters x 200) + (3 RP x 70) = 1410
(7 Starters X 200) + (2 RP x 70) = 1550

10 Pitchers
(6 Starters x 200) + (4 RP x 70) = 1480
(7 Starters x 200) + (3 RP x 70) = 1610
(8 Starters x 200) + (2 RP x 70) = 1740

I don't think its reasonable to assume someone would be able to get all the innnings out of all their pitchers, so these look like the very upper bounds to me. I think people would definitely struggle to get 1500 innings. I personally think a 1300 or 1400 limit makes sense. It should be low enough so that there is still a limit, and the name of the game isn't start every starter every chance you get. Its high enough so that a person who never moved in a bench player would be behind the pack (5 starters x 200) + (2 RP x 70) = 1140 IP.

3) I think I would rather have innings limits and keep the counting stats over no innings limits and rate stats.

4) I've done fantasy leagues with 162 game limits for each position before, and that works well. You still need to have bench players to fill in the starts you would be missing.

[vatech1994]

Well bonk me on the head and call me a doofus! I knew we weren't tracking IP for score, but I just lost my mind this morning when looking at my roster page because it is in the first column and, apparently, I can't count.

So, forget my "points" about IP.

However, can someone confirm that BB & K are counting stats for pitchers rather than rate stats BB/9IP and K/9IP. I hope so because I drafted thinking of them as counting stats, but I honestly wasn't sure.

[Mashed Potatoes]

OK Mashed Potatoes. I'm curious. Did you really just grab David Price when I put him on waivers despite the fact that he is likely to be kept in the minors for 6 weeks or so AND this isn't a keeper league? You have now officially become my nemesis. I will crush you for picking up my strategic drop.

vatech, those are some strong words coming from a guy who's so nice that Mr. Rogers could sue him for copyright infringement.


I just found this thread so I apologize for my lack of participation prior. It looks like fun here. I wish I could check my fantasy team during work but the stupid Baltimore City Public School System spam filter is the devil. Example, one time I tried to go to the non-profit Community Law in Action, which helps connects youth to summer internships in law firms amongst other things, and it blocked the website with the reason that it was a "malicious site." Another time I tried to go to the Homeless Persons Representation Project, another non-profit, and it blocked the site as "pornography." Tangent over.

Regarding my infield, my internet died for my first pick (I think it was 2nd overall) so the computer autopicked ARod for me. At first I was furious, then I said "F it in the butt, I'm going to embrace this!" So I drafted Tex, Pedroia, and Jeter to round out the most obnoxious infield of all time. If they do well my fantasy team wins, if they fail, humanity wins, so either way it's a positive.


Hank Scorpio has HIV.

[Lucky Jim]

Another time I tried to go to the Homeless Persons Representation Project, another non-profit, and it blocked the site as "pornography."

Mashed Potatoes <3 Homeless Porn.

[YardBirds13]

Just wanted to throw up a post in this thread, first of all, because the trash talking is fantastic, and the season hasn't even started yet. Well done.

Secondly, because I started an AL-only League, which is basically a normal fantasy league, except without minor leaguers.

Plus, trash talking will not only be encouraged, but it will be....well, I guess I can't force anyone to do it, but it will be encouraged. We've got 7 teams so far, and I'm hoping to have at least 10, hopefully 12.

So I wanted to see if anyone from the esteemed OH League would like to join a league where we don't allow National Leaguers, and not only do I deal with Moms, but Aunts, Sisters, and cousins too.

[Mashed Potatoes]

Mashed Potatoes <3 Homeless Porn.

Lucky Jim <3's showing off that he's successful despite being from Cecil County.

[Icterus galbula]

Thanks to Hank for setting up them limits. Its funny, Vatech and I clearly spent too much time thinking about various scenarios, and when Hank just got lazy and copied settings from another league, it actually mirrored my post.



FYI:

1350 Innings /Pitching Staff
162 Games /Positional Player

[AgentOrange]

Thanks to Hank for setting up them limits. Its funny, Vatech and I clearly spent too much time thinking about various scenarios, and when Hank just got lazy and copied settings from another league, it actually mirrored my post.



FYI:

1350 Innings /Pitching Staff
162 Games /Positional Player

We can all learn from Hank.

I can't wait for the damn season to start so we can hear about how Moose doesn't care about his last place team.

He takes all the fun out of making fun of him. Well... Maybe not.

And Yardie, I would love to, but I have 3 teams already, my head is about to explode.

If by draft day, you don't have an even number of teams, try and get a hold of me because I might bail you out.

[vatech1994]

I will say this about Hank's changes (and I'm not complaining). Lowering the total innings for the staff from 1800 to 1350 is a HUGE change. There are several of us who are going to have to alter our roster based on this innings limit because we'll clearly exceed that limit with our current roster make up. I had six starting pitchers and that isn't going to work with a 1350 IP limit.

[Lucky Jim]

I will say this about Hank's changes (and I'm not complaining). Lowering the total innings for the staff from 1800 to 1350 is a HUGE change. There are several of us who are going to have to alter our roster based on this innings limit because we'll clearly exceed that limit with our current roster make up. I had six starting pitchers and that isn't going to work with a 1350 IP limit.

It will when you have Kazmir, Bedard and Kershaw. ;)

[Icterus galbula]

I will say this about Hank's changes (and I'm not complaining). Lowering the total innings for the staff from 1800 to 1350 is a HUGE change. There are several of us who are going to have to alter our roster based on this innings limit because we'll clearly exceed that limit with our current roster make up. I had six starting pitchers and that isn't going to work with a 1350 IP limit.


I think if you had plans to start all your pitchers every chance you get, your staff would still squeeze under 1350. Only two of your pitchers had over 200 innings last year. If Nathan and Soria both throw 70 IP, you have 1210 spread over 6 starters. You aren't projecting all six of your starters to throw 200+ innings, are you?

[vatech1994]

I think if you had plans to start all your pitchers every chance you get, your staff would still squeeze under 1350. Only two of your pitchers had over 200 innings last year. If Nathan and Soria both throw 70 IP, you have 1210 spread over 6 starters. You aren't projecting all six of your starters to throw 200+ innings, are you?

I was planning on carrying 10 pitchers with 7 starters and 3 relievers or even 11 with 7/8 and 3/4.

7 starters moving them in and out to maximize starts would likely be about 1250-1300 IP. 3 relievers is another 200 IP or so. So, I was looking at filling 1450 IP minimum.

I dropped a starter today. At this point, I'll look to maximize the 1350 IP that I can fill which is a different challenge, but still fun. If it was left at 1800 IP, I was seriously considering just blowing out the pitching side to dominate the counting stats.

[AgentOrange]

I was planning on carrying 10 pitchers with 7 starters and 3 relievers or even 11 with 7/8 and 3/4.

7 starters moving them in and out to maximize starts would likely be about 1250-1300 IP. 3 relievers is another 200 IP or so. So, I was looking at filling 1450 IP minimum.

I dropped a starter today. At this point, I'll look to maximize the 1350 IP that I can fill which is a different challenge, but still fun. If it was left at 1800 IP, I was seriously considering just blowing out the pitching side to dominate the counting stats.

Just pull an O's and go straight 13 man on us.

[vatech1994]

I'm just giving all the participants fair warning that I expect more participation in this thread now that the season is starting. I'm looking at you in particular, Hank!

[PeteCanes]

Yeah, I just found out that this thread exists, so I'm an idiot.

Doesn't put me in the top five of biggest dumb-dumbs in this league though...

[vatech1994]

I'm laying down a challenge.

Who is up for making wagers on our signature lines?

If we get all 10 league participants to buy in, I suggest the following rules:

All standings are updated at the end of week.
End of the week is defined as through Sunday.
Each sig line starts with, "Based on the standings in the OH Fantasy League through <Insert Date Here>, ...."

The rest of the sig line (....) will be -

League Leader
I am leading the league. The poor suckers behind me thought they had a chance, but they didn't realize they all brought a knife to a gunfight. They bask in my brilliance while secretly hoping I don't decide to take their women and their jobs, because they know I could.

2nd - 3rd
I am in xx place <where xx is 2nd or 3rd>. My team has promise. My hopes are high. The league title is still within reach. However, I currently bow to the wisdom and might of <insert name of the guy leading the league>.

4th - 7th
I am in xx place <where xx is 4th, 5th, 6th, or 7th>. I am clearly smarter than the knuckledraggers behind me, but that isn't much to brag about. I hope to one day be as smart as <insert name of the guy leading the league>.

8th - 9th
I am in xx place <where xx is 8th or 9th>. I know virtually nothing about baseball (or of anything else to be honest). I'm basically happy if I can manage to put my clothes on correctly in the morning and not get lost on the way to work. However, as putrid as I am at assembling a roster, at least I'm not as sad as <insert name of the guy last in the league>.

Last
I am in last place. I no longer have friends. My family is trying to disown me. My baseball ideas are so bad that I routinely solicit advice from OldFan.
________________

What do you guys think? Too harsh? Not harsh enough? I'm trying to make this fun while still making it sting a bit. Feel free to modify any/all of the tag lines to something that you like better. I was trying to stay away from insults that might get us in trouble with the mods.

I'm really didn't want to refer to other posters, but I couldn't come up with a good end for "My baseball ideas are so bad that I..." Anybody got anything?

If we all sign up, I'll create the sig lines each week on Sun night and we'll agree to change them when we next visit the board.

I suggest that we all agree to list the final standings in our sig line after the season has concluded and that anybody who finishes above anyone else in the standings can have input on the offseason tagline of those who finished lower. We'll agree to keep them through Dec 31st. So, for example, 1st - 3rd would weigh in on what goes in the 4th place tag line. Of course, all decisions would be voted on by the league as to whether the tagline is fair/in bounds or not. That might keep things about Moose's Mom out of the tagline. Or not. ;)

Well, let me have it. What ya think?

[AgentOrange]

I am in. Not really sure what the sig lines could say, but it is good enough for me.

[Moose Milligan]

I guess I'm in, too.

[McNulty]

I'm in as well, but since this is roto we should wait a few weeks before throwing it up there. How about until the end of April?

[Icterus galbula]

I'm with McNulty that we should wait til the end of April when the picture has a little more clarity.

In the meantime, I think we should decide what signatures will say.

Also, once a week seems pretty frequent to me.

[vatech1994]

I agree. End of April is fine with me to start.

Re: the period on the updates, I'm fine with making it a longer period of time. 2 weeks? once a month? The problem with making it too long is that things could change enough to make the sig lines out-of-date. But, I'm flexible...

Guys,
I sense reticence. I'm just throwing this out there. We don't need to do it. It is intended to be lighthearted, but I get that this may be more involved than some of us want to get. I'm not sensitive and I don't think any of the rest of the group is either. Just tell us what you think. If we decide this isn't worth the effort, it won't bother me a bit. I'm just goofing around trying to have fun with this thing. I'll probably be the last place finisher. Whatever...

Gabs,
I get the feeling you're not a big fan of what I came up with for the sig lines. I did them all quickly w/o much thought so I'm not married to any of them. I was just trying to kick off the process and I was trying to be a bit over-the-top. Like I wrote before, we can change any/all of them. Just throw out the suggestions.

[Hank Scorpio]

VaTech, it's dark in the basement, buddy.

[Lucky Jim]

I'm fine with whatever. Though I'll confess to being attached to my current signature.

[vatech1994]

Nobody has to scrap what they've currently got in their sig line to add the new stuff as long as they don't run out of space. We're flexible here. :D

I think we're up to 7 out of 10 as either enthusiastic or ambivalent thumbs up. Where oh where have Mackus, Mashed Potatoes, and Pete Canes gone?

[vatech1994]

VaTech, it's dark in the basement, buddy.

For your sake, I hope that the cutie who posts as Hank's GF is really just a fake picture and you're pulling a "Bikini Armstrong" as we all suspect. If she is real, I'd keep her away from this league/board. I'd hate for you to lose a girl over this. God knows it was a miracle you got her to date you in the first place. :p

[vatech1994]

I see that I'm in mid-season form. I draft Adam Lind, but then drop him after a lot of debate. He proceeds to just crush the ball today. Meanwhile, I pick up Motte because he is going to close for the Cardinals. He proceeds to give up 4 runs in the 9th to blow the game. And the cherry on top is that my one starter who pitched today, Verlander, got just crushed.

I'm rocking and rolling. I predict that I will be a knuckledragger. :p

[AgentOrange]

For your sake, I hope that the cutie who posts as Hank's GF is really just a fake picture and you're pulling a "Bikini Armstrong" as we all suspect. If she is real, I'd keep her away from this league/board. I'd hate for you to lose a girl over this. God knows it was a miracle you got her to date you in the first place. :p

Oh she's real.

[Lucky Jim]

Good days from Hawpe and Roberts for me. King Felix dealing right now - 5ks and 0 runs through 3.

We'll see. We'll see.

[Hank Scorpio]

Oh she's real.

Hahahaha, hey by the way AO, we watched the game with Marcus Smith.

[Lucky Jim]

Good day - 8 innings and a win from King Felix. A save with 2 Ks from newly-anointed closer Broxton. An inning and a K from Putz - 10 innings, a run, a win, 9 Ks and a .90 ERA and .90 WHIP.

.500 and 1.182 on offense - though only four runs and four RBIs.

[PeteCanes]

I'm in on the sig lines. Wouldn't mind getting some comedy going in the league.

[Mashed Potatoes]

I'm laying down a challenge.

Who is up for making wagers on our signature lines?

If we get all 10 league participants to buy in, I suggest the following rules:

All standings are updated at the end of week.
End of the week is defined as through Sunday.
Each sig line starts with, "Based on the standings in the OH Fantasy League through <Insert Date Here>, ...."

The rest of the sig line (....) will be -

League Leader
I am leading the league. The poor suckers behind me thought they had a chance, but they didn't realize they all brought a knife to a gunfight. They bask in my brilliance while secretly hoping I don't decide to take their women and their jobs, because they know I could.

2nd - 3rd
I am in xx place <where xx is 2nd or 3rd>. My team has promise. My hopes are high. The league title is still within reach. However, I currently bow to the wisdom and might of <insert name of the guy leading the league>.

4th - 7th
I am in xx place <where xx is 4th, 5th, 6th, or 7th>. I am clearly smarter than the knuckledraggers behind me, but that isn't much to brag about. I hope to one day be as smart as <insert name of the guy leading the league>.

8th - 9th
I am in xx place <where xx is 8th or 9th>. I know virtually nothing about baseball (or of anything else to be honest). I'm basically happy if I can manage to put my clothes on correctly in the morning and not get lost on the way to work. However, as putrid as I am at assembling a roster, at least I'm not as sad as <insert name of the guy last in the league>.

Last
I am in last place. I no longer have friends. My family is trying to disown me. My baseball ideas are so bad that I routinely solicit advice from OldFan.
________________

What do you guys think? Too harsh? Not harsh enough? I'm trying to make this fun while still making it sting a bit. Feel free to modify any/all of the tag lines to something that you like better. I was trying to stay away from insults that might get us in trouble with the mods.

I'm really didn't want to refer to other posters, but I couldn't come up with a good end for "My baseball ideas are so bad that I..." Anybody got anything?

If we all sign up, I'll create the sig lines each week on Sun night and we'll agree to change them when we next visit the board.

I suggest that we all agree to list the final standings in our sig line after the season has concluded and that anybody who finishes above anyone else in the standings can have input on the offseason tagline of those who finished lower. We'll agree to keep them through Dec 31st. So, for example, 1st - 3rd would weigh in on what goes in the 4th place tag line. Of course, all decisions would be voted on by the league as to whether the tagline is fair/in bounds or not. That might keep things about Moose's Mom out of the tagline. Or not. ;)

Well, let me have it. What ya think?

I'm in, but your suggestions are not nearly harsh enough.

[vatech1994]

I'm in, but your suggestions are not nearly harsh enough.

LOL

I would have bet money you'd be on that side of the aisle. Well, have at making the sigs more robust shall we say... :p

[vatech1994]

I'm pretty amused by my last place standing after the third day of the regular season.

Some highlights thus far:
- My team's ERA is 14.73 and WHIP is 2.55 thus far. And I was worried about the Orioles' pitching staff. :D
- My hitters went 3/35 with no home runs and 1 run scored yesterday.
- My team is supposed to have a lot of speed yet I have ZERO SBs after three days of the regular season.
- I've got 5 closers on my roster and just managed to pick up my first save in the late game last night (Oakland/Ziegler).

Good stuff...

BTW, I'm getting mighty concerned by the lack of love from Mackus in this thread. We may have to recruit Mashed Potatoes and Moose to start riffing on him until he makes an appearance.

[Lucky Jim]

Do I get an award for forgetting to move Scott Kazmir into my starting rotation for his start tonight?

[Icterus galbula]

I'm pretty amused by my last place standing after the third day of the regular season.

Some highlights thus far:
- My team's ERA is 14.73 and WHIP is 2.55 thus far. And I was worried about the Orioles' pitching staff. :D
- My hitters went 3/35 with no home runs and 1 run scored yesterday.
- My team is supposed to have a lot of speed yet I have ZERO SBs after three days of the regular season.
- I've got 5 closers on my roster and just managed to pick up my first save in the late game last night (Oakland/Ziegler).

Good stuff...

BTW, I'm getting mighty concerned by the lack of love from Mackus in this thread. We may have to recruit Mashed Potatoes and Moose to start riffing on him until he makes an appearance.


Well, at least your .196 AVG and .701 OPS is better than McNulty's .183 and .525

[vatech1994]

Well, at least your .196 AVG and .701 OPS is better than McNulty's .183 and .525

Yeh, but beating McNulty is like remembering to pick up the cover on the toilet before dropping a deuce; it's a given...

[vatech1994]

Do I get an award for forgetting to move Scott Kazmir into my starting rotation for his start tonight?

Most likely to be labeled a knuckledragger?

[Mackus]

Yay to starting Chien-Ming Wang last night!

[McNulty]

Wow, you guys are really jumping all over that small sample size. But I suspect most of you clowns are use to handling small samples.

Zing skeezers, zing.

Ain't no sweat in my brow, brah.

[Lucky Jim]

I can't believe I just picked up Ubando Jimenez as a FA. You guys are sleepwalking - he's a lock for 200 innings and 180 Ks this year. Man.

I've got no starters going today. Yawn.

[vatech1994]

I can't believe I just picked up Ubando Jimenez as a FA. You guys are sleepwalking - he's a lock for 200 innings and 180 Ks this year. Man.

I've got no starters going today. Yawn.

I yawn about Jimenez. He is very inconsistent. He could be a good grab though. Just a lot of volatility there.

At this rate, you're going to pick up the majority of the available free agents at some point in the season. 11 moves and we're in the first week of the season? LOL, you might as well have skipped the draft.

[PeteCanes]

My whole f'n team is O-fer today.

[Lucky Jim]

I yawn about Jimenez. He is very inconsistent. He could be a good grab though. Just a lot of volatility there.

At this rate, you're going to pick up the majority of the available free agents at some point in the season. 11 moves and we're in the first week of the season? LOL, you might as well have skipped the draft.

Well, I didn't have a chance to think about what I was doing in advance of the draft.

I did okay - I'm not an idiot - but there were some tweaks needed.

He's a little inconsistent, but he's young. And should be increasingly less so.

[vatech1994]

Well, I didn't have a chance to think about what I was doing in advance of the draft.

I did okay - I'm not an idiot - but there were some tweaks needed.

He's a little inconsistent, but he's young. And should be increasingly less so.

Rational explanations will not be acknowledged when my main goal is to give you crap about irrelevant little things. Sorry. Got anything else? Like a similarly juvenile comeback? :p

[vatech1994]

Based on today's standings, I think I'll try this on for size:

League Leader
I am leading the league. The poor suckers behind me thought they had a chance, but they didn't realize they all brought a knife to a gunfight. They bask in my brilliance while secretly hoping I don't decide to take their women and their jobs, because they know I could.

I like it. It fits really well. I think I'll keep it. ;)

[Moose Milligan]

Pujols = Monster.

[McNulty]

Pujols = Monster.

When did your mom change her name? Cinco de Mayo?

[Moose Milligan]

When did your mom change her name? Cinco de Mayo?

Its not even May yet, slappy.

[McNulty]

Its not even May yet, slappy.

Yea, but she's dumb enough to change her name almost a year ago and not tell anyone. But who needs to exchange names with her line of work? For instance, I believe everyone of her "clients" has the same name, and its John.

[Lucky Jim]

I'm 0 for 15 today.

That is all.

[AgentOrange]

I'm 0 for 15 today.

That is all.

Maybe all the beer runs you made during the draft is taking you out of your game.

that 8/18 for me is a little disappointing. Need to pick it up.

[Lucky Jim]

Pretty solid day pitching-wise - Got a win, a save, 19 Ks in 22 innings, a sub-1.00 WHIP and an ERA under 2.00 on the day.

The hitting picked up a bit, but not much: 5 for 30 on the day.

[Mackus]

Ok, next week I'm gonna remember to set my lineups more than 3 of the days and kick all youse guyses asses.

[PeteCanes]

And a happy Easter to my pitching staff!

29.1 IP 3 W, 1 Sv, 31 K's, .92 ERA, .72 WHIP.

Love that.

[vatech1994]

And a happy Easter to my pitching staff!

29.1 IP 3 W, 1 Sv, 31 K's, .92 ERA, .72 WHIP.

Love that.

All of that on Sunday? Jesus, that is insane. nicely done

[Hank Scorpio]

My bullpen = stinky.

[vatech1994]

My butt = stinky.

Fixed that typo for ya ;)

BTW, your bullpen kind of blows too.

[vatech1994]

I can't believe I just picked up Ubando Jimenez as a FA. You guys are sleepwalking - he's a lock for 200 innings and 180 Ks this year. Man.

I've got no starters going today. Yawn.

Well, your boy has 6 walks through 3.2 IP today. Whose sleepwalking now, my friend? :p

[McNulty]

My bullpen = stinky.

Your pitching is El Stinko, McHanks.

[AgentOrange]

Welcome back Mr Upton!

1st game back with 2 R's and 2 SB!

[Mackus]

Ted Lilly almost threw a no-hitter tonight and I've still got a 9.95 ERA for the night.

Thank you Chien-Ming Wang, thank you very much.

[Hank Scorpio]

Guess who's on my bench tonight?

Hint : It's Aubrey Huff.

[Mackus]

Guess who's on my bench tonight?

Hint : It's Aubrey Huff.Is it Aubrey Huff?

[Hank Scorpio]

Is it Aubrey Huff?

It is Aubrey Huff.

You're not cheating me are you? You can't read these can you?

YOU are a legitimate phenomenon.

[Lucky Jim]

Guess who's on my bench tonight?

Hint : It's Aubrey Huff.

Andre Ethier, here. Who breaks out of his early season slump with two useless HRs.

[Icterus galbula]

Gained 6.5 points in the standings after this tidy line from my hitters last night: 10/32 7 R 4 HR 8 RBI 2 STL .313 1.249


I'm also loving my bench flexibilty now that I dropped the Big Unit for Brandon Inge. Between Inge, Felipe Lopez, and Chris Young I have

1 Backup C
1 Backup 2B
2 Backup 3B
1 Backup SS
3 Backup OF

It would be nice to have a backup to Adrian Gonzalez, but he's probably my safest bet to not lose time to injury.

[Mackus]

I'm also loving my bench flexibilty now that I dropped the Big Unit for Brandon Inge. Between Inge, Felipe Lopez, and Chris Young I have

1 Backup C
1 Backup 2B
2 Backup 3B
1 Backup SS
3 Backup OF
Yeah but you also have Brandon Inge, Felipe Lopez, and Chris Young on your team.

[Icterus galbula]

Yeah but you also have Brandon Inge, Felipe Lopez, and Chris Young on your team.

I knew someone one say this. They aren't big names but:

Absolutely nothing wrong with having a talent like Chris Young on my team.

Felipe Lopez? I didn't want to pick him up, but his position availabilty + the fact he's raked since leaving DC + his 24 steals in 07 (steals being my weakpoint) and it made sense to drop Encarnacion for him.



Brandon Inge (4 HRs already, and great backup C) I picked up after reading this:


3B Brandon Inge not only has changed his batting stance, but also the way he's thinking at the plate. It became more obvious Sunday that Inge isn't pull-happy as he started a six-run eighth inning rally with an opposite field home run and then finished the frame with a game-deciding two-run single up the middle with two out. .. Inge has his greatest success at the plate hitting the ball where it's pitched.



Oh yeah, who is the guy with Chien-Ming Wang on his team again?


EDIT: Check my post number, my Iron Man post, as it were.

[Lucky Jim]

Someone just surged into first place.

A hint: not Aubrey Huff.

[vatech1994]

Someone just surged into first place.

A hint: not Aubrey Huff.

I hate to give you any credit. I really do. I mean it kills me. :laughlol:

However, I look at your team log and I'm mighty impressed. I wouldn't even say your hitters are overperforming. You've got a few guys that are hot, but you've got others that are colder than normal. I like your line up quite a bit.

On the pitching side, you've assembled a far superior team to mine. It killed me when you grabbed Bedard right before me and it still does. I think you've got a decent chance to win both the K category and the WHIP category. Your pitchers are overperforming a bit at the moment, but most of the numbers are legit.

So far so good, but injuries can be a ***** and you've got some guys who are susceptible to problems IMO. Kudos thus far...

[Lucky Jim]

I hate to give you any credit. I really do. I mean it kills me. :laughlol:

However, I look at your team log and I'm mighty impressed. I wouldn't even say your hitters are overperforming. You've got a few guys that are hot, but you've got others that are colder than normal. I like your line up quite a bit.

On the pitching side, you've assembled a far superior team to mine. It killed me when you grabbed Bedard right before me and it still does. I think you've got a decent chance to win both the K category and the WHIP category. Your pitchers are overperforming a bit at the moment, but most of the numbers are legit.

So far so good, but injuries can be a ***** and you've got some guys who are susceptible to problems IMO. Kudos thus far...

Basically, realizing that OPS and BA (which are somewhat redundant) counted as much as HR and RBIs, I focused on those.

And I went for high-K and low hit guys who might not pile up innings, but who so far are proving pretty valuable.

There's a decent amount of over-performance there, but also some under-performance offensively with HRs and RBIs. They'll come back.

I rectified some of my problems by adding Clint Barmes who can fill in a bit at 2B, SS, and 3B and should give me decent average and okay OPS. And I replaced Maggs with Drew today, too - Maggs has 1 XBH in his last 28 games. He's got no pop left.

Injuries could very well bite me hard, though.

And I expect some significant regression from folks like Kazmir and Kershaw.

Still, all things considered, it looks like my attempt to find value picks on OPS worked out well: guys like Hawpe and Ethier are providing me with some value.

[vatech1994]

I'm an idiot. How in the world did I miss that JD Drew was available? What a goof I am. Nice pick up Jim... you &^^%&*&(*^&$^%$^&#*^

[Lucky Jim]

I'm an idiot. How in the world did I miss that JD Drew was available? What a goof I am. Nice pick up Jim... you &^^%&*&(*^&$^%$^&#*^

Bad day for Kazmir, but a good day offensively. Ethier gave me two HRs and I got one from Victor Martinez. That VM pick - which worried me when I made it - is paying off nicely.

Yeah - I think Drew's a good pick up. I can ride him while he's hot, and then when he's injured or not, I've got Hawpe, Ethier and Bay - which is a solid average, high OPS OF.

Right now, I've got back-ups for all my infield positions (between Branyan and Barmes - though I imagine I'll have to replace Branyan when he starts King with frequency) and an extra OF who's my UTI (Drew).

And I don't have to worry about my C, because Martinez plays first or DHs or whathaveyou on many of his off-days.

Kazmir killed me today, though.

[Lucky Jim]

Eh. Changed my mind on Branyan. Dropped him and added Shoppach. I'll just bump VM to 1B to spell Berkman if I need to, and use Barmes at 2B, SS and 3B for B-Rob, Chipper and Reyes.

[McNulty]

Leagues are won on the waiver wire fellas.

That said, I'm still shocked at how badly my team is hitting.

[AgentOrange]

Leagues are won on the waiver wire fellas.

That said, I'm still shocked at how badly my team is hitting.

We will see. Sometimes you don't need the 18 waiver moves this early in the year to have success...


Ohhh... Too soon?:laughlol:

[vatech1994]

We will see. Sometimes you don't need the 18 waiver moves this early in the year to have success...


Ohhh... Too soon?:laughlol:

Ouch, direct hit, nicely done, rep for you...

[Lucky Jim]

Leagues are won on the waiver wire fellas.

That said, I'm still shocked at how badly my team is hitting.


We will see. Sometimes you don't need the 18 waiver moves this early in the year to have success...


Ohhh... Too soon?:laughlol:


Ouch, direct hit, nicely done, rep for you...

Perhaps not. Then again, the failure of folks to take advantage of a market without any transaction costs seems a misstep of colossal proportions.

You'll note that all of my waiver activity has involved my bench and UTI, and adjusting my pitching, which I underdrafted.

I mean, I did no prep for this league, never played in a fantasy league before, and drafted my team on two hours sleep, hungover, in an airport lounge.

If it takes me a bunch of waiver activity to maintain my squad and stay in the lead of you turkeys, so be it.

But just remember, hotshots, you're losing to a lazy, drunken novice.

Though my guess is you're all familiar with that kind of thing.

[vatech1994]

Perhaps not. Then again, the failure of folks to take advantage of a market without any transaction costs seems a misstep of colossal proportions.

You'll note that all of my waiver activity has involved my bench and UTI, and adjusting my pitching, which I underdrafted.

I mean, I did no prep for this league, never played in a fantasy league before, and drafted my team on two hours sleep, hungover, in an airport lounge.

If it takes me a bunch of waiver activity to maintain my squad and stay in the lead of you turkeys, so be it.

But just remember, hotshots, your losing to a lazy, drunken novice.

Though my guess is you're all familiar with that kind of thing.

Good comeback, nicely done

We're 11 days from the initial pay-off on the sig lines. I'm not digging my position at the moment. Of course, we're only 11 or so games into the season so we've still got a long way to go to even this first evaluation point.

I'm lazy and a novice so I've got most of your qualifications covered. Maybe my problem thus far is a lack of boozing? I must not be drinking enough? I like that Don Henley song. :scratchchinhmm:

[Lucky Jim]

I still have yet to see a team that can touch mine. For all the kids out there, he's what a dominating squad looks like:

We'll note that McNutty's team is now called "Hit You @$$holes!". Dominating, indeed.

What we're seeing here is the effect of flawed talent evaluation. The same missteps made in drafting his team were apparently carried over into evaluating the other teams.

[McNulty]

We'll note that McNutty's team is now called "Hit You @$$holes!". Dominating, indeed.

What we're seeing here is the effect of flawed talent evaluation. The same missteps made in drafting his team were apparently carried over into evaluating the other teams.

My chickens have come home to roost.

Just remember, even a crappy team like San Diego can have a good start to a season.

At least I'm not MP. That guy is struuuuuglin.

[AgentOrange]

And I retake over my first place position.

The cream always rises friends.

[vatech1994]

And I retake over my first place position.

The cream always rises friends.

You're "Sweat from ...."?

Mashed Potatoes is "Dick Hill"?

I've lost track with name changes...

[AgentOrange]

You're "Sweat from ...."?

Mashed Potatoes is "Dick Hill"?

I've lost track with name changes...

Sorry man, I am Sweat...

just like everyone is doing right now.

But I must say off topic, class stuff from your triple A report. I really enjoyed reading all of it. Thanks for taking the time to do that, thus taking time away from your fantasy team. :laughlol:

[vatech1994]

Sorry man, I am Sweat...

just like everyone is doing right now.

But I must say off topic, class stuff from your triple A report. I really enjoyed reading all of it. Thanks for taking the time to do that, thus taking time away from your fantasy team. :laughlol:

Thanks, I really appreciate the kudos for the effort. It was quite a bit of effort, but a lot of fun for me. Knowing that people got something out of it makes me very happy.

I need to start working more. I've started spending more time barking at the moon trying to reason / discredit some of our scholars on the main board. I know better than that. It is just tough to see the blather and not respond at times.

[Mashed Potatoes]

Thanks, I really appreciate the kudos for the effort. It was quite a bit of effort, but a lot of fun for me. Knowing that people got something out of it makes me very happy.

I need to start working more. I've started spending more time barking at the moon trying to reason / discredit some of our scholars on the main board. I know better than that. It is just tough to see the blather and not respond at times.

I got nothing out of your post and may god have mercy on your soul.

[Icterus galbula]

Looks like Lucky Jim and Agent Orange got too big for their britches. Its a marathon, not a sprint. I'm just starting to hit my stride. Like I said at the draft, I create symphonies of fantasy teams.

Tremble before the success I've had in my most recent fantasy leagues:

Hangout Basketball league: Champion
12 team football league: Champion
14 team baseball league: Leader through 161 games, passed on last day.

Symphonies, gentlemen, symphonies. Mashed Potatoes knows its true.

[Lucky Jim]

Looks like Lucky Jim and Agent Orange got too big for their britches. Its a marathon, not a sprint. I'm just starting to hit my stride. Like I said at the draft, I create symphonies of fantasy teams.

Tremble before the success I've had in my most recent fantasy leagues:

Hangout Basketball league: Champion
12 team football league: Champion
14 team baseball league: Leader through 161 games, passed on last day.

Symphonies, gentlemen, symphonies. Mashed Potatoes knows its true.

Who isn't a champion compared to MP?

You're a maestro all right. Like this guy:

http://thatother.blogspot.com/maestro7.jpg

[Icterus galbula]

Anyone know who tagged the thread "worstfntsyownersever?"

If it wasn't someone us cool kids like, imagine the kind of donkstrike pwnage our collective reps could inflict.

[PeteCanes]

And Lucky Jim has dropped the mighty Ubaldo Jimenez.

[Lucky Jim]

And Lucky Jim has dropped the mighty Ubaldo Jimenez.

I still like him over the long-haul. But he's got mechanical issues. I think he'll provide 180 Ks or so by the end of the year, and post a 4ish ERA.

But I'm not going to wait for him to turn it around.

Besides, what better stuff do I have to do than tweak my roster non-stop. Good enough for Billy Beane, good enough for me. ;)

[McNulty]

I still like him over the long-haul. But he's got mechanical issues. I think he'll provide 180 Ks or so by the end of the year, and post a 4ish ERA.

But I'm not going to wait for him to turn it around.

Besides, what better stuff do I have to do than tweak my roster non-stop. Good enough for Billy Beane, good enough for me. ;)

You are going to regret dropping Magglio. I did the same thing two years ago when he started slow, and then he blew up. Even if he doesn't do that, he's solid for RBIs and AVG.

[vatech1994]

We're five days from the end of April. Things are starting to settle down a bit. I hope we're all ready to wear our signatures with pride. :clap3:

[Icterus galbula]

Brian McCann just got put on the DL. Now I gotta hope Inge will continue to play well for me as he starts everyday for me the next little while. I'm not exactly thrilled about that.

[Lucky Jim]

I'd like to thank Matt Lindstrom for single-handedly ruining my Friday by giving up 7 runs in 2/3 of an inning.

[vatech1994]

Yeh, well, I'm like strichnine to starting pitchers. Go take a look at the results for my "starters". Galarraga was just kicking butt. I pick him up and he sucks in start one. Of course, I dropped Harang because he was pitching poorly in ST and he has just rocked and rolled.

Hank and I should both sue our starters for non-support.

BTW, I benched both Damon and Ellsbury today because they were facing Burnett and Beckett. They are my only two position players on the bench. The score is 8-8 and they've both had huge days. I'm freaking brilliant AND lucky. :laughlol:

[Icterus galbula]

Just had Hanrahan throw one out and give up 7 ER, but even after that current stattracker projections have me in the lead by 8 points.

Anyone gonna step up here?

Also, I appreciate the kind words you gave me in private, Moose. You give me too much credit.

[vatech1994]

Gentlemen,
It is time to pay up for the first month of the season. Please note where you are in the standings and add the appropriate statements to your sig lines.

I'm out of town and don't have much time at the moment, but when I get back I will play enforcer.... ;)

[vatech1994]

I'm laying down a challenge.

Who is up for making wagers on our signature lines?

If we get all 10 league participants to buy in, I suggest the following rules:

All standings are updated at the end of week.
End of the week is defined as through Sunday.
Each sig line starts with, "Based on the standings in the OH Fantasy League through <Insert Date Here>, ...."

The rest of the sig line (....) will be -

League Leader
I am leading the league. The poor suckers behind me thought they had a chance, but they didn't realize they all brought a knife to a gunfight. They bask in my brilliance while secretly hoping I don't decide to take their women and their jobs, because they know I could.

2nd - 3rd
I am in xx place <where xx is 2nd or 3rd>. My team has promise. My hopes are high. The league title is still within reach. However, I currently bow to the wisdom and might of <insert name of the guy leading the league>.

4th - 7th
I am in xx place <where xx is 4th, 5th, 6th, or 7th>. I am clearly smarter than the knuckledraggers behind me, but that isn't much to brag about. I hope to one day be as smart as <insert name of the guy leading the league>.

8th - 9th
I am in xx place <where xx is 8th or 9th>. I know virtually nothing about baseball (or of anything else to be honest). I'm basically happy if I can manage to put my clothes on correctly in the morning and not get lost on the way to work. However, as putrid as I am at assembling a roster, at least I'm not as sad as <insert name of the guy last in the league>.

Last
I am in last place. I no longer have friends. My family is trying to disown me. My baseball ideas are so bad that I routinely solicit advice from OldFan.
________________

What do you guys think? Too harsh? Not harsh enough? I'm trying to make this fun while still making it sting a bit. Feel free to modify any/all of the tag lines to something that you like better. I was trying to stay away from insults that might get us in trouble with the mods.

I'm really didn't want to refer to other posters, but I couldn't come up with a good end for "My baseball ideas are so bad that I..." Anybody got anything?

If we all sign up, I'll create the sig lines each week on Sun night and we'll agree to change them when we next visit the board.

I suggest that we all agree to list the final standings in our sig line after the season has concluded and that anybody who finishes above anyone else in the standings can have input on the offseason tagline of those who finished lower. We'll agree to keep them through Dec 31st. So, for example, 1st - 3rd would weigh in on what goes in the 4th place tag line. Of course, all decisions would be voted on by the league as to whether the tagline is fair/in bounds or not. That might keep things about Moose's Mom out of the tagline. Or not. ;)

Well, let me have it. What ya think?

Here they are boys. I believe the order after April is this:

Leader - Icterus
2nd - Agent Orange
3rd - Me
4th - Pete Canes
5th - McNulty
6th - Mackus
7th, 8th tie - Lucky Jim, Hank Scorpio (use higher sig)
9th - Moose
10th - Mashed Potatoes

[McNulty]

I personalized mine a touch, but its up.

[AgentOrange]

Mine is up too. I will take this league. Don't worry.

[Icterus galbula]

Signature launched

[PeteCanes]

Sig in place.


Decided to go my own route.

[Mashed Potatoes]

Sig's in place.

If this league were a hamburger TyTy and I would be the sesame seed bun, only I'd be the bottom half that was all soggy from the meat juices. I challenge you all to complete the metaphor, what part of the hamburger would you be and why?

Moose would probably be the mayonnaise, fattening and loved by the French.

[AgentOrange]

Sig's in place.

If this league were a hamburger TyTy and I would be the sesame seed bun, only I'd be the bottom half that was all soggy from the meat juices. I challenge you all to complete the metaphor, what part of the hamburger would you be and why?

Moose would probably be the mayonnaise, fattening and loved by the French.

I would be the bacon. Almost at the top, but tasting oh so good.

[McNulty]

I'd be the pickle. No one really cares about the pickles.

[McNulty]

Anyone need a closer? I've got 6 of um.

[vatech1994]

Sig in place.


Decided to go my own route.

Just outstanding, rep given

[Dipper9]

I am in last place, 16 out of 16, but can't say I have really paid much attention. I didn't realize this thread was going on with bragging rights on the line. Perhaps I should start actually trying???? :scratchchinhmm:

[McNulty]

I am in last place, 16 out of 16, but can't say I have really paid much attention. I didn't realize this thread was going on with bragging rights on the line. Perhaps I should start actually trying???? :scratchchinhmm:

Wrong league Dip.

[Dipper9]

Wrong league Dip.

Thank God. Now I can lose that other league in peace! Thanks McNulty!

Its kind of funny. The CBS league I care about that we have had the same owners for 10 years, I lost the first four games before going 10-2 in my last 12, sitting pretty back in first place trying to defend my title from last year. The OH ESPN league I am in has 16 teams and is pretty much a waste of time. You set your lineup once and then do nothing. Pretty boring.

[AgentOrange]

So how long do I have to wait until I change my sig to first place? ;)

[McNulty]

I think I might have to go back to Hit You ---holes again.

[Hank Scorpio]

Crap are we still playing?

I should probably take a look... am I in last place? My office firewalled Yahoo Fantasy Sports.

[Lucky Jim]

Sorry guys - forgot about the sig thing.

Figures I'd be back in fourth within a week of dropping to seventh. Bad timing.

[McNulty]

Crap are we still playing?

I should probably take a look... am I in last place? My office firewalled Yahoo Fantasy Sports.

Is it the Fantasy stuff firewalled, or just signing in?

I can't sign in here at work, unless I get sly and go to geocities.com to sign in.

[Mackus]

I'm gonna put Manny Ramirez on the trade block...anybody interested?

[vatech1994]

So, I see we have 2 signature hold outs left. No pressure. I won't mention them by name...


MACKUS
&
HANK SCORPIO

:p

[vatech1994]

Have I told you all how much I'm loving Evan Longoria? I seem to recall several folks giving me crap for drafting him early. So far so good

Evan Longoria
(TB - 3B)

% Started H/AB R HR RBI SB AVG OPS
98% 39/109 21 8 35 2 .358 1.115

[Moose Milligan]

**Ahem**

Will trade Pujols for a scrap and a Markakis authentic jersey in return.

:D

[Mashed Potatoes]

ARod's back, it is so much fun to root for my infield!

[Hank Scorpio]

I would like to point out that I currently have FOUR offensive players on the disabled list.

That's four players.

Ridiculous.

:rolleyes:

[McNulty]

When do we update the sigs, since I'm in 3rd. :D

I know I'm going to fall again, so lets do it NOW!

[vatech1994]

You've got 12 days my friend. Hang in there.

[Mackus]

My top 5 picks were:

Grady Sizemore
Manny Ramirez
Joe Mauer
Cole Hamels
Vlad Guerrero

Two horrible starts, two injured guys, and one suspended guy.

And the Cubs are still letting Kevin Gregg close for some unknown reason. Just put Marmol in the closer's role!

[vatech1994]

My top 5 picks were:

Grady Sizemore
Manny Ramirez
Joe Mauer
Cole Hamels
Vlad Guerrero

Two horrible starts, two injured guys, and one suspended guy.

And the Cubs are still letting Kevin Gregg close for some unknown reason. Just put Marmol in the closer's role!

That is rough luck. On the bright side, Joe Mauer has shown a surprising amount of power to go with his ridiculous bat control since he came off the DL.

Taking a look at my draft, I can say at the quarter point:

1. (5) Evan Longoria - Excellent pick
2. (16) Justin Morneau - Good pick
3. (25) Carlos Quentin - Good start, uh oh since the heel issue started
4. (36) Russell Martin - OK, but a bit of a reach
5. (45) Alexei RamÃ*rez - Huge disappointment, already dropped
6. (56) Jacoby Ellsbury - OK, I guess, but where are the steals?
7. (65) Joe Nathan - Fine pick if the Twins could give him a close game to close
8. (76) Adam Dunn - Good pick
9. (85) Joakim Soria - Doing great until he got hurt
10. (96) James Shields - Not performing to expectations
11. (105) David Price - Waivered him and he got picked up by one of you nimrods, still in minors
12. (116) Howie Kendrick - Very underwhelmed thus far
13. (125) Justin Verlander - Steal thus far
14. (136) Michael Young - Better than expected thus far
15. (145) Lastings Milledge - Huge bust
16. (156) Scott Baker - Blah
17. (165) Aaron Harang - Waived him after long debate and lost him like an idiot
18. (176) Johnny Damon - Huge steal thus far
19. (185) Kevin Slowey - Blah 2
20. (196) Fausto Carmona - Low risk, high reward pick that sucked wind
21. (205) Adam Lind - Waived him after extended debate and regretted it immediately


My picks for biggest steal picks thus far:

Adam Jones in 13th round by Mr. Scorpio
Erik Bedard in 12th and Nick Swisher in the 17th by Mr. Jim
Verlander in the 13th and Damon in the 18th by me
Cano in the 12th and Ted Lilly in the 17th by Mr. Mackus
Greinke in the 12th, Heath Bell in the 14th, Jered Weaver in the 17th by Mr. Orange (Greinke is my pick for biggest steal of all)

My picks for biggest busts that nobody saw coming:

Rollins in 2nd by McNuts (I thought this was a bit of a reach but I still expected a lot more from him)
Alexei Ramirex in 5th by me (I was really worried about that pick, but I went with my gut; my gut is stupid)
Sizemore in the 1st by Mackus (wow, shocked about him thus far)
Ortiz in the 8th by Icterus
Upton in 2nd by Agent Orange (and he is still kicking our a$$)
Half of poor Mashed Potatoes' roster (seriously, he drafted some good players and EVERYONE is underperforming or hurt; ARod, Teix, Pedroia, Webb, Soto, Beckett, Lee, Justin Upton, Alex Gordon)

I don't know about the rest of you guys, but AO and IG both scare the crap out of me. They both have some guys that are underperforming that are likely to improve like Braun, Tulo, Danks, Upton, Fielder, Hardy, and Lester. They will just completely whip our butts if these guys come on and their other guys continue to perform. Greinke could lead a decent squad to the crown by himself if he continues this way. (Anybody want to go side bets on whether Greinke can pull more wins than Moose's whole squad? :rofl:)

So, what do you guys think? I've got to tell you that it wouldn't upset me if we got a bit more participation here. This thread is more interesting than 90% of the stuff I'm reading on the main board. At least all you turkeys have a brain (well, sort of).

[Mackus]

A few of my starters are also killing it but not getting any wins. Particularly Haren and Volstad. Haren has a 2.09 ERA, ridiculous 0.86 WHIP and 56:9 K:BB ratio but only 3 wins. Volstad has a 3.35 and only 2 wins.

I do expect that my crop of starters, Hamels, Haren, Lilly, Volstad, Volquez, and Dice-K will be pretty damn good for the remainder of the season. Just need to get my offense and relievers back on schedule.

[tywright]

VT - Alexei Ramriez was awesome from June on to the end of the year. You shouldn't have cut him loose that quickly.

[McNulty]

My team stopped under performing for the time being. Rollins, Holliday and Wright were hitting like Cintron.

My favorite part is that Milligan is stuck in 9th and we all know he isn't going anywhere all season.

[vatech1994]

VT - Alexei Ramriez was awesome from June on to the end of the year. You shouldn't have cut him loose that quickly.

Yeh, I realize that. It was a numbers thing that I almost immediately regretted. It wasn't a smart decision to be sure.

[PeteCanes]

The return of the mighty Ubaldo Jimenez.

[AgentOrange]

Wow. I don't touch my team for a week, just let it auto drive for a while and I am in first by 7 points.

BOW DOWN.

[PeteCanes]

H: Come here boy, I've got something to show you.

B: What's that, a homemade bat?

H: It's something verrrry special. A homemade bat.

[Mashed Potatoes]

So I just traded Josh Beckett for Carlos Quentin, an exchange of underachievers with big time potential. I have some depth at pitching and need outfield help.

What I find encouraging about Quentin (besides his past success), is his abnormally low .208 BABIP. That is 3rd worst in the league. He's hitting 19.1% line drives so it seems to me like a lot of bad luck at play.

They'll both rebound to some extent, we'll see who comes out on top.

[Moose Milligan]

MATT WIETERS TIME BABY!

Finally, production out of my catchers spot.

[PeteCanes]

A pox on Zobrist.

[Moose Milligan]

7th place!!!

I got you donkeys right where I want you.

[Mashed Potatoes]

7th place!!!

I got you donkeys right where I want you.

And I'm no longer in the cellar! That spot belongs to PeteCanes

[vatech1994]

Here they are boys. I believe the order after April is this:

Leader - Icterus
2nd - Agent Orange
3rd - Me
4th - Pete Canes
5th - McNulty
6th - Mackus
7th, 8th tie - Lucky Jim, Hank Scorpio (use higher sig)
9th - Moose
10th - Mashed Potatoes

Alright folks. Another month is in the books. The updated standings are:
Leader - Agent Orange
2nd - Icterus
3rd - Me
4th - Lucky Jim
5th - Hank Scorpio
6th tie - Mackus & McNulty
8th - Moose Milligan
9th - Mashed Potatoes
10th - Pete Canes

Some pretty dramatic changes from #4 on down.

Pete, what happened this month my friend?

Please update your signatures at your earliest convenience and thanks for your support... :p

[Icterus galbula]

Rats. I was in first place as of yesterday but lost a fair amount of points in the one day. Second place will have to do for now.

[Spoonless]

I think next season I should get in on the fun. :laughlol:

[AgentOrange]

Rats. I was in first place as of yesterday but lost a fair amount of points in the one day. Second place will have to do for now.

BS.

I was in the lead for more than half of the month. It would have been a travesty if you swooped in and took first.

[PeteCanes]

And I'm no longer in the cellar! That spot belongs to PeteCanes

May was really an awesome month for the Generals.

[Icterus galbula]

BS.

I was in the lead for more than half of the month. It would have been a travesty if you swooped in and took first.

Travesty? Was I not in first place Sunday?

You were in first for the better part of May, tis true, but its not like I fell out of contention or was ever out of striking distance.

[AgentOrange]

Travesty? Was I not in first place Sunday?

You were in first for the better part of May, tis true, but its not like I fell out of contention or was ever out of striking distance.

It would have been a travesty for me!!!!

This has been a pretty good league so far. I think it will be a nice 3-4 team race for most of the year. I enjoy it.

[vatech1994]

Today was a good day for my starters - 3 starts, 3 wins, 1 save, 1 walk, 22 Ks; Longoria is out and my offense still did OK.

Agent,
I think you may want to rethink your signature as I believe I will be in first place come morning. Though it may be for just a day, I hardly think you can be "crushing" me if I pass you... ;)

BTW, good call on sitting Adam Lind, Nyjer Morgan, and BJ Upton today... :rofl:

I kid, I kid

[AgentOrange]

Today was a good day for my starters - 3 starts, 3 wins, 1 save, 1 walk, 22 Ks; Longoria is out and my offense still did OK.

Agent,
I think you may want to rethink your signature as I believe I will be in first place come morning. Though it may be for just a day, I hardly think you can be "crushing" me if I pass you... ;)

BTW, good call on sitting Adam Lind, Nyjer Morgan, and BJ Upton today... :rofl:

I kid, I kid

Tech,

My Bench will smoke your starters.

--Orange

[Mashed Potatoes]

Don't look now but Dick Hill has moved up another 2 spots, and I still have Carlos Quentin and Brandon Webb on the DL.

[McNulty]

Don't look now but Dick Hill has moved up another 2 spots, and I still have Carlos Quentin and Brandon Webb on the DL.

9 points in one day bro? You are the Barry Bonds of this league.

[Lucky Jim]

Someone has quietly returned from his nadir in 7th place to rise to 3rd once again.

How's he do it while struggling w/ ineffectiveness from Kazmir, and then the DL, and the DL for Jose Reyes?

Well, simple: Ben Zobrist, roto-hero!

[Lucky Jim]

The climb continues.

[Icterus galbula]

The climb continues.

Like a 1970's business-lady, methinks you are going to have to deal with running into this reinforced glass ceiling.

I've been sitting in my rightful throne for I think 9 straight days now, and don't plan on giving it back up.

[Lucky Jim]

Like a 1970's business-lady, methinks you are going to have to deal with running into this reinforced glass ceiling.

I've been sitting in my rightful throne for I think 9 straight days now, and don't plan on giving it back up.

Wow. Nine straight days? I've had hangovers that lasted longer.

[Icterus galbula]

Wow. Nine straight days? I've had hangovers that lasted longer.

Has anyone else in the league besides me had 9 straight days in first?



Crickets.


My ultimate point is that many have come and gone in second and third place. Only one has had multiple tenures over a week long in first.

[AgentOrange]

Has anyone else in the league besides me had 9 straight days in first?



Crickets.


My ultimate point is that many have come and gone in second and third place. Only one has had multiple tenures over a week long in first.

Really? I was in first for almost the whole month of May.

You need to pay more attention son.

[Icterus galbula]

Really? I was in first for almost the whole month of May.

You need to pay more attention son.


While you were in first most of the month, it was never uninterrupted the way my current streak is.

Just me trying to burst Lucky Jim's bubble by flexing some muscle.

[AgentOrange]

While you were in first most of the month, it was never uninterrupted the way my current streak is.

Just me trying to burst Lucky Jim's bubble by flexing some muscle.

You don't have to worry about LJ, he knows he is playing for 3rd.


And BTW. Your streak is over son.

[Icterus galbula]

Standings as of July 1st:



Rank Team Points
1. Simon Phoenix 89.5
2. Sweat From My Balls 85.5
3. Balls to the Wall 76
4. Be Home Blylevens 75.5
5. Cincinnati Bowties 67
6. Eaton Sucks ******* 64
7. Milligan's Mashers 54.5
8. Dick Hill 52.5
9. Washington Generals 49.5
10. You Can't Booze 46

[Hank Scorpio]

Is this thing still on?

[Moose Milligan]

Standings as of July 1st:



Rank Team Points
1. Simon Phoenix 89.5
2. Sweat From My Balls 85.5
3. Balls to the Wall 76
4. Be Home Blylevens 75.5
5. Cincinnati Bowties 67
6. Eaton Sucks ******* 64
7. Milligan's Mashers 54.5
8. Dick Hill 52.5
9. Washington Generals 49.5
10. You Can't Booze 46

I somehow moved up after trading Pujols to McNulty. Amazing.

[vatech1994]

I've given up on this thread. It is fairly clear that very few of us wants to participate at all. What a shame. It could have been fun IMO.

[AgentOrange]

I've given up on this thread. It is fairly clear that very few of us wants to participate at all. What a shame. It could have been fun IMO.

You are always so dramatic!

It is a long season in fantasy baseball land! When you are playing Roto style, the middle of the season gets a little stale.

If we were playing head to head format we could have wins and losses each week to brag about. But this is a little different.

Don't worry, I am still around, I still check the roster, but not as much as I should.

Now that IG is ahead of me, I need to turn it on, and I will.

[vatech1994]

You are always so dramatic!

It is a long season in fantasy baseball land! When you are playing Roto style, the middle of the season gets a little stale.

If we were playing head to head format we could have wins and losses each week to brag about. But this is a little different.

Don't worry, I am still around, I still check the roster, but not as much as I should.

Now that IG is ahead of me, I need to turn it on, and I will.

Hey man, I'm not trying to insult anybody. It just is what it is. 90% of the participation in this thread over the past two months has been you, Icterus, Jim, and me. McNuts has popped in on occasion to liven things up. Mackus has basically been non-existent. Hank and Moose haven't been here much.

I'm just saying that when 4 of the most prolific posters on these boards don't contribute to this thread much at all, it tells me that they really don't want to do so. It isn't a value judgment. I still love all these guys.

The sound of one hand clapping is silence. I'm busy as hell anyway. I've moved on. No worries...

[AgentOrange]

Hey man, I'm not trying to insult anybody. It just is what it is. 90% of the participation in this thread over the past two months has been you, Icterus, Jim, and me. McNuts has popped in on occasion to liven things up. Mackus has basically been non-existent. Hank and Moose haven't been here much.

I'm just saying that when 4 of the most prolific posters on these boards don't contribute to this thread much at all, it tells me that they really don't want to do so. It isn't a value judgment. I still love all these guys.

The sound of one hand clapping is silence. I'm busy as hell anyway. I've moved on. No worries...


No reason to move on man! Besides, those guys are dead to rights. No reason for them to even be posting in here anymore, their seasons are already over. Look at their teams!

IT will get interesting at the end. All we need is You, Lucky Jim, IG and myself, because that is who is going to be battling at the end.

Don't give up the good fight!

[McNulty]

Don't count me out yet. If I can get to midpack in homers, that will give me a shot at it.

[Icterus galbula]

I'm in it for the long haul, regardless of any fairweather-phony-owners who stop caring about their own inadequate teams.

[Mashed Potatoes]

Hey man, I'm not trying to insult anybody. It just is what it is. 90% of the participation in this thread over the past two months has been you, Icterus, Jim, and me. McNuts has popped in on occasion to liven things up. Mackus has basically been non-existent. Hank and Moose haven't been here much.

I'm just saying that when 4 of the most prolific posters on these boards don't contribute to this thread much at all, it tells me that they really don't want to do so. It isn't a value judgment. I still love all these guys.

The sound of one hand clapping is silence. I'm busy as hell anyway. I've moved on. No worries...

I love you vatech and I'm sorry!

[Mackus]

I usually do my fantasy stuff at work and we recently had a 3 week stretch where our internet was out. Following the ASB, I'll be more active. Just had to let you guys get a big enough head start to make it a fair fight.

[Lucky Jim]

I'm offering Jose Reyes up for anyone in need of SS help. Will entertain all offers.

[vatech1994]

OK, another month is over. It is time to update your sig lines. Congrats to Icterus for being in the lead yet again. I thought I had a shot at you this time when I slipped past you on July 31st, but you went back ahead when it counted last night.

Standings after July:
1st - Icterus Gabula
2nd - VaTech1994
3rd - Agent Orange
4th - McNulty
5th - Lucky Jim
6th - Hank Scorpio
7th - Pete Canes
8th - Mashed Potatoes
9th - Mackus
10th - Moose Milligan

Now don't you guys all knock me over with all your feedback like usual. ;)

[Mashed Potatoes]

OK, another month is over. It is time to update your sig lines. Congrats to Icterus for being in the lead yet again. I thought I had a shot at you this time when I slipped past you on July 31st, but you went back ahead when it counted last night.

Standings after July:
1st - Icterus Gabula
2nd - VaTech1994
3rd - Agent Orange
4th - McNulty
5th - Lucky Jim
6th - Hank Scorpio
7th - Pete Canes
8th - Mashed Potatoes
9th - Mackus
10th - Moose Milligan

Thank God I'm finally ahead of that HangQuitter Milligan.


Now don't you guys all knock me over with all your feedback like usual. ;)

These sarcastic comments stemming from your unmet expectations about the league always make me feel bad, like I let you down. I'm sorry vatech!

[vatech1994]

These sarcastic comments stemming from your unmet expectations about the league always make me feel bad, like I let you down. I'm sorry vatech!

Don't feel bad man. I'm just joshing around. Hence the ;)

Congrats on getting ahead of MM :clap3:

[Mackus]

My team...wtf???

[8istheman]

Guys, Girls,
Put me down for OHFBB next year.
Thanks,
8

[McNulty]

This is the mother of all jinxes, but McNutts is makin his move.

[vatech1994]

This is the mother of all jinxes, but McNutts is makin his move.

Good call ....... on the jinx ;)

[vatech1994]

Rank Team Points
1. Balls to the Wall 93.5
2. Simon Phoenix 90
3. Sweat From My Balls 79.5
4. Be Home Blylevens 75
5. Cincinnati Bowties 71.5
6. Dick Hill 59
7. Washington Generals 48.5
7. You Can't Booze 48.5
7. Eaton Sucks Asshole 48.5
10. Milligan's Mashers 46


I'm pretty ecstatic that I'm in the lead, but I'll still be shocked if I win.