Promotion Watch List

[tywright]

Norfolk to Baltimore


Chris Tillman (21) -
IP ERA FIP BB SO
48.0 2.25 2.33 14 55
Troy Patton (23) -
Team IP ERA FIP BB SO
BOW 58.1 1.85 3.46 14 44
Jake Arrieta (23) -
Team IP ERA FIP BB SO
BOW 59.0 2.59 3.08 23 70
David Pauley (25) - 50.2 IP, 3.91 ERA, 4.03 FIP, 29/12 K/BB
Chris Waters (28) - 59.2 IP, 4.07 ERA, 4.29 FIP, 32/26 K/BB
Jim Miller (27) - 23.1 IP, 1.54 ERA, 2.99 FIP, 16/9 K/BB
Bob McCrory (27) - 25.0 IP, 1.44 ERA, 2.84 FIP, 20/6 K/BB
Kam Mickolio (25) - 22.0 IP, 4.50 ERA, 2.75 FIP, 27/6 K/BB
Radhames Liz (25) - 30.0 IP, 5.10 ERA, 3.40 FIP, 28/7 K/BB



Brandon Snyder (22) -
TEAM AVG OBP SLG OPS BB SO
BOW .343 .411 .605 1.016 20 38
Scott Moore (25) - .252/.316/.480/.796 , 8/22 BB/K
Justin Turner (24) - .301/.356/.374/.730 , 14/19 BB/K

Bowie to Norfolk


Brian Matusz (22) -
Team IP ERA FIP BB SO
FRE 66.2 2.16 2.94 21 75
Wilfrido Perez (24)- 22.1 IP, 1.61 ERA, 4.14 FIP, 26/19 K/BB
Tim Bascom (24)- BOWIE: 53.0 IP, 3.40 ERA, 4.37 FIP, 32/13 K/BB



Paco Figueroa (26) - .308/.400/.439/.839 , 16/21 BB/K

Frederick to Bowie


Zach Britton (21) - 59.2 IP, 2.11 ERA, 3.74 FIP, 53/30 K/BB
Luis Lebron (24) - 25.1 IP, 1.42 ERA, 2.13 FIP, 41/14 K/BB



Pedro Florimon (22) - .306/.374/.576/.950 , 18/41 BB/K, 9 SB (.320 BA, 1.010 OPS last 28 days)
Brandon Waring (23) - .280/.360/.500/.860 , 23/49 BB/K (.929 OPS last 28 days)
Caleb Joseph (22) - .338/.362/.490/.852 , 6/25 BB/K (.406 BA, 1.066 OPS last 14 days)
Matt Angle (23) - .295/.380/.358/.738, 26/23 BB/K (.426 BA, .977 OPS last 14 days)

Delmarva to Frederick

Richard Zagone (22) -
IP ERA FIP BB SO
56.2 3.65 3.54 23 56
Cole McCurry (23) - 55.2 IP, 3.56 ERA, 3.22 FIP, 52/13 K/BB
Ryan O'Shea (23) - 65.0 IP, 3.05 ERA, 3.86 FIP, 48/13 K/BB
Eddie Gamboa (24) - 31.0 IP, 1.16 ERA, 3.37 FIP, 28/3 K/BB
Joe Esposito (24) - 26.0 IP, 1.04 ERA, 2.82 FIP, 37/12 K/BB
Oliver Drake (22) - 50.1 IP, 2.50 ERA, 3.12 FIP, 36/13 K/BB



Joe Mahoney (22) - .293/.339/.419/.758 , 11/26 BB/K , 18 SB
Ronnie Welty (21) - .317/.396/.433/.829 , 18/43 BB/K (.389 BA, .977 OPS last 14 days)
Xavier Avery (19) - .310/.346/.421/.776, 11/41 BB/K, 15 SB (.429 BA, .980 OPS last 14 days)


Here's a list of promotions so far this season:

Bobby Stevens (Extended Spring to Frederick)
Andy Barb (Extended Spring to Frederick)
Jake Stevens (Extended Spring to Frederick)
Robbie Widlansky (Extended Spring to Frederick)
Matt Tucker (Extended Spring to Frederick)
Kenny Moreland, SP (Extended ST to Frederick and then to Aberdeen)
Melvin Dorta, SS (Bowie to Norfolk)
John Mariotti, SP (Frederick to Bowie)
Nathan Nery, SP (Delmarva to Frederick)
Ryan Ouellette, RP (Frederick to Bowie)
Bobby Livingston, SP (Bowie to Norfolk)
Pat Egan, RP (Delmarva to Bowie and then back down to Delmarva to be a SP)
Jedidiah Stephen, 2B (Delmarva to Frederick and then to Bowie)
Garabez Rosa, SS (06 Int'l signing to Delmarva and then to Aberdeen)
Travis Keating, RP (08 draft pick to Delmarva)
Rodolfo Cardona, 2B (Frederick to Bowie and then back down to Delmarva)
Ryohei Tanaka, SP (Extended ST to Bowie)
Jake Arrieta, SP (Bowie to Norfolk)
Troy Patton, SP (Bowie to Norfolk)
Tim Bascom, SP (Frederick to Bowie)
Brian Matusz, SP (Frederick to Bowie)
Brandon Snyder, 1B (Bowie to Norfolk)

Baltimore
Brad Bergesen
Lou Montanez
Nolan Reimold
Jason Berken
David Hernandez
Matt Wieters
Oscar Salazar
Alberto Castillo

(McCrory and Liz have been up as well)

[DuffMan]

http://masnsports.com/2009/05/patton-and-snyder-likely-to-st.html

According to Steve Melewski's interview with Stockstill, don't expect Patton or Snyder to be promoted anytime soon.

It's a good list and I agree that many of these guys should be promoted, I would be surprised if half of these guys get promoted during the season.

[QBsILLEST1]

Add Ollie Drake, he is a better prospect than Zagone, atleast IMO.....

[skins]

Gamboa, Egan, Esposito.

Mahoney too.

[LookinUp]

Perez needs to minimize the walks. He had location issues last year too, IIRC.

[Who's On 1st]

Perez needs to minimize the walks. He had location issues last year too, IIRC.

I could see Wilfrido Perez (24) in Baltimore by the Sept. if he can cut down his walks.

[Fairfax Bird]

I would have Miller up higher on that list. Ray should be DLed and Miller promoted IMO.

[rcm134]

A little bird told me....
As soon as he can prove his hamstring is sound, Mick Mattaliano will be back in Frederick.

[Frobby]

http://masnsports.com/2009/05/patton-and-snyder-likely-to-st.html

According to Steve Melewski's interview with Stockstill, don't expect Patton or Snyder to be promoted anytime soon.

It's a good list and I agree that many of these guys should be promoted, I would be surprised if half of these guys get promoted during the season.

Per Stockstill:


"We have some guys in our mind who we expect to be ready to move about four to six weeks from now."

I wonder if this means they'll hold Wieters at Norfolk that long.

I think Patton moves sooner than Snyder. He'll be moved in that 4-6 week window, maybe even before, and it is just a question of Baltimore or Norfolk. Snyder's tougher because Salazar is playing 1B and raking at Norfolk. What are you going to do, bench or demote him?

[bird watcher]

Per Stockstill:



I wonder if this means they'll hold Wieters at Norfolk that long.

I think Patton moves sooner than Snyder. He'll be moved in that 4-6 week window, maybe even before, and it is just a question of Baltimore or Norfolk. Snyder's tougher because Salazar is playing 1B and raking at Norfolk. What are you going to do, bench or demote him?

Or bring him to Baltimore once Huff is traded.:scratchchinhmm:

[tywright]

Add Ollie Drake, he is a better prospect than Zagone, atleast IMO.....

Drake, and probably Zagone, will probably stay the entire year in Delmarva. I only put Zagone on the list since he is outperforming Drake currently.

[jcumansky28]

Drake, and probably Zagone, will probably stay the entire year in Delmarva. I only put Zagone on the list since he is outperforming Drake currently.

I agree on Perez. He could indeed make the jump to the big leagues when we need a LOOGY. Also, Brandon Erbe should be a candidate for promotion once he's been off the DL for a bit.

[tywright]

Here's a list of promotions so far this season:

Melvin Dorta, SS (Bowie to Norfolk)
John Mariotti, SP (Frederick to Bowie)
Nathan Nery, SP (Delmarva to Frederick)
Ryan Ouellette, RP (Frederick to Bowie)
Bobby Livingston, SP (Bowie to Norfolk)
Pat Egan, RP (Delmarva to Bowie)

Baltimore
Brad Bergesen
Lou Montanez
Nolan Reimold
Jason Berken
David Hernandez
Matt Wieters

(McCrory and Liz have been up as well)

[tywright]

I agree on Perez. He could indeed make the jump to the big leagues when we need a LOOGY. Also, Brandon Erbe should be a candidate for promotion once he's been off the DL for a bit.

I left Erbe off purposely because of the DL and his age. Stockstill really likes to make sure each young guy gets a full year at each level. Now that may not be the case with Matusz and Arrieta.

[hoosiers]

Avery has been as hot as almost anyone in the organization for 3+ weeks and I expect he will continue to post strong, perhaps not as strong as currently, numbers regarding obp and plate discipline. We'll see if he can keep it up and be deserving of a promotion in the second half.

Still, the Frederick OF is crowded and a promotion could depend on whether Frederick or DelMarva is playoff bound. Further, not too many HSers get promoted to High A ball, but if the discussion is who is a productive hitter, then I would say at his current pace or slightly below, Xavier Avery should be in the discussion.

[BmoreRaven]

Maybe add Rowell to the list. If he begins to tear it up then he may get a promotion sometime in the 2nd half of the season (probably towards the end of the season). He's played in Frederick for one year already so I think the hesitancy to move him up if he is tearing the ball is lessened.

[tywright]

BUMP

Berken, Hernandez, and Wieters are getting promoted to Baltimore.

Looks like Patton and possibly Matusz and Zagone will be getting jumps as well.

[wickedwitch]

Someone (or multiple someones) needs to go to Norfolk. They're running out of starters.

[OSfanfromCT]

Someone (or multiple someones) needs to go to Norfolk. They're running out of starters.

I was just thinking that. Patton? Makes sense espcially considering Stockstill's earlier comments mentioning they see him as simply needing to log innings, and they're not overly concerned where. Think that if he continues his success he'll see baltimore before hte season is out. Don't have a link to the Stockstill quote, but I do remember reading that somewhere.

Also, wouldn't be surprised to see Arrieta moved up to Norfolk soon as well.

[jerios55]

Someone (or multiple someones) needs to go to Norfolk. They're running out of starters.

DCab and Eaton to minor league deals :wedge:

[jerios55]

Liz actually started today's game, after they said he was being converted to reliever. If that plan hasn't changed they clearly need to do something soon.

[Yachtsman]

Patton to AAA, Matutz to AA. I'm pretty sure that's going to happen.

Here'a a curve: Do you move Drake to Frederick from Delmarva, and put Bundy in his place? Ah the possibilities with depth....

[Jenius]

Out of all the guys that haven't been promoted yet from this discussion, the one that most puzzles me is Joe Esposito. I'm not sure what else he has to prove as a 24-yo striking out 2 batters an inning at low-A ball. Esposito seems like he could be another late bloomer ala Hoey or McCrory or Chris Britton, though I hope the end result for him is better than what it has been for those guys.

[crawdad]

Liz actually started today's game, after they said he was being converted to reliever. If that plan hasn't changed they clearly need to do something soon.

I imagine it will wind up being Pauley, Tillman, Waters, Patton, and Mitchell.

[tywright]

I've udpated the list and added a few low level hitters. I'm not adding Rowell yet.

[tywright]

Here's a list of promotions so far this season:

Melvin Dorta, SS (Bowie to Norfolk)
John Mariotti, SP (Frederick to Bowie)
Nathan Nery, SP (Delmarva to Frederick)
Ryan Ouellette, RP (Frederick to Bowie)
Bobby Livingston, SP (Bowie to Norfolk)
Pat Egan, RP (Delmarva to Bowie)
Jedidiah Stephen, 2B (Delmarva to Frederick)
Garabez Rosa, SS (06 Int'l signing to Delmarva)
Travis Keating, RP (08 draft pick to Delmarva)
Rodolfo Cardona, 2B (Frederick to Bowie)

[AVencill]

You can also add:

Bobby Stevens (Extended Spring to Frederick)
Andy Barb (Extended Spring to Frederick)
Jake Stevens (Extended Spring to Frederick)
Robbie Widlansky (Extended Spring to Frederick)
Matt Tucker (Extended Spring to Frederick)

[MarkF]

For those people who are looking for Tillman to be promoted sometime soon, I did some research I haven't seen elsewhere on this site that may show where MacPhail is coming from.

As of today, I counted a total of 71 pitchers on the Orioles' five active teams, including players on the various disabled lists. I was really surprised to see that Chris Tillman is the youngest player among those 71 players. Therefore, I would be shocked to see him any time before September, and surprised to see him even then.

The youngest players on current rosters are:

Name/DOB

Tillman-4/15/88
Erbe-12/25/87
Britton-12/22/87
Butler-11/18/87 (This surprised me as well!)
Matusz-2/11/87
Drake-1/13/87

All other pitchers were born in 1986 or earlier.

[Frobby]

For those people who are looking for Tillman to be promoted sometime soon, I did some research I haven't seen elsewhere on this site that may show where MacPhail is coming from.

As of today, I counted a total of 71 pitchers on the Orioles' five active teams, including players on the various disabled lists. I was really surprised to see that Chris Tillman is the youngest player among those 71 players. Therefore, I would be shocked to see him any time before September, and surprised to see him even then.

The youngest players on current rosters are:

Name/DOB

Tillman-4/15/88
Erbe-12/25/87
Britton-12/22/87
Butler-11/18/87 (This surprised me as well!)
Matusz-2/11/87
Drake-1/13/87

All other pitchers were born in 1986 or earlier.

Reaching AAA at such a young age is a reflection of why he is so highly ranked. But I don't see why his youth prevents a promotion - only his development does. To me Tillman's main task is to throw 6+ IP with regularity. Once he is able to do that, he's ready.

[tywright]

Updated with Salazar and Castillo up in Bmore. Also added Oliver Drake to Frederick promotion watch since he is now posting a 2.50 FIP, which is better than Zagone and McCurry.

[skins]

With the draft the next few days, and Aberdeen starting around the corner. Can we expect some guys moving up and down, or released? Everyone has an opinion on who should be moved up, but who should be moved down, or released at this point?

[MarkF]

Reaching AAA at such a young age is a reflection of why he is so highly ranked. But I don't see why his youth prevents a promotion - only his development does. To me Tillman's main task is to throw 6+ IP with regularity. Once he is able to do that, he's ready.

Since this thread has already been bumped, I thought I'd go back to this Frobby post, which was in response to a post by me about how young Tillman is.

I agree with you completely. A player should be promoted based on whether he is ready rather than upon his age. However, that determination of "ready" is not an exact science. When a player is as young as Tillman is, the team can afford to wait in order to be more sure about his "readyness." As compared to a player like Reimold, who at 25 seemed ready but was at the point of - Ready or Not...Here I Come!:laughlol:

That's what I was trying say when I pointed out how young he was and conjectured that MacPhail might be thinking along those lines. Now that I've said that, MacPhail will probably call up Tillman tonight! I was very wrong about when Wieters would be called up. Why should this be different?

[adam_jonzin']

Great, more Orioles pitching

Jake Arrieta, RHP, Orioles (Double-A Bowie)
Sunday's stats: 7 IP, 3 H, 0 R, 0 BB, 5 K
Arrieta had an on-and-off beginning to the year, but he's definitely on a roll of late, as last night's effort was has second seven-inning complete-game shutout in five efforts. When you add it all up, the former TCU star has a 2.59 ERA, 70 strikeouts in 59 innings and is limiting the Eastern League to a .208 batting average. He could be in Triple-A soon, and in the Orioles' revamped rotation at some point next year.

[tywright]

Rumors that Arrieta and Patton are moving up to Norfolk. Who replace them in Bowie?

[tywright]

http://masnsports.com/2009/06/much-closer-to-confirmation.html


I'm told that pitchers Troy Patton and Jake Arrieta are, indeed, moving up to Triple-A Norfolk, where they'll join elite prospect Chris Tillman in a beefed-up rotation.

Also, Single-A Frederick right-hander Tim Bascom, the Orioles' fourth pick in the 2007 draft, will be promoted to Double-A Bowie and make tomorrow night's start. That's been the talk over the last few days.

The Orioles promoted Kenny Moreland from extended spring training to take Bascom's turn with Frederick last night, and he retired the first 13 batters he faced.

Made the changes to OP

[Three Run Homer]

Really don't understand why Bascom should get the nod over Matusz. Matusz has zero to work on at Frederick--except for learning how to tip your cap to the fans during an all-star game, I guess.

[Frobby]

Really don't understand why Bascom should get the nod over Matusz. Matusz has zero to work on at Frederick--except for learning how to tip your cap to the fans during an all-star game, I guess.

That's the whole reason, IMO. They want Matusz to enjoy the experience of playing in the all star game, being played in California where a lot of his college pals and family will get to see him. Also, by sticking around until the all star break he is eligible to be named Carolina League pitcher of the year when the season ends (which is a definite possibility I'd say). So, it's all to allow him to enjoy some early success. We're only talking about 3 extra starts that he could have made at Bowie if he were promoted today instead of being held back until the Carolina League all star break to promote him, so it's not a huge deal.

[hoosiers]

I wonder how long Matt Angle has to carry an OBP north of .420 since May 1 until he gets considered.

[tywright]

I wonder how long Matt Angle has to carry an OBP north of .420 since May 1 until he gets considered.

Duly noted...added Angle and Avery. Plus I added some splits for the lower level batters.

[tywright]

*UPDATED* Matusz is moving on up