What QB would you rather have than Flacco?

[frankpembleton]

Taking into account long term and short term potential, how many QBs would you take over Flacco?

It's surprising to me how short this list is in my mind...

[JohnnyK27]

Taking into account long term and short term potential, how many QBs would you take over Flacco?

It's surprising to me how short this list is in my mind...

Yes their are a few... Peyton Manning comes to mind. In all honesty I would trade Flacco for anyone right now though...It looks like we have the best young QB in the league.

[geschinger]

Yes their are a few... Peyton Manning comes to mind. In all honesty I would trade Flacco for anyone right now though...It looks like we have the best young QB in the league.

Not to take anything away from Flacco who does look to me like he's going to be a good one for a long time but the player picked from the same draft class has played awfully well to this point in his career. If I had a franchise and had to pick a young QB from that draft class, based on what I've seen so far I don't see how Ryan doesn't get the nod although Flacco is not far behind.

[JohnnyK27]

Not to take anything away from Flacco who does look to me like he's going to be a good one for a long time but the player picked from the same draft class has played awfully well to this point in his career. If I had a franchise and had to pick a young QB from that draft class, based on what I've seen so far I don't see how Ryan doesn't get the nod although Flacco is not far behind.

No argument but I consider what we would have had to give up to move up to get Ryan. And I personally think Flacco will end up with the better career. But thats a biased opinion of course.

[BaltimoreTerp]

I wouldn't trade Flacco for any other QB.

But that's because I already have his jersey and I don't want to have to get another one.

[ccbird]

I asked a similar question in the following thread last year. It will be interesting to see how far Flacco has moved up on some people's list in the last year.


http://forum.orioleshangout.com/forums/showthread.php?t=70882



Back then I said I'd take Ben and Cutler over him though probably not now. Rivers might be the only guy I'd seriously consider at this point. Not that you could go wrong with a lot of these guys and all things being relatively equal you're going to take your teams guy. I know the Steelers fans would take Ben over everyone else and the Falcons fans would do the same with Ryan. It'll be interesting to hear from some of the guys who don't have a dog in the fight.

[frankpembleton]

I asked a similar question in the following thread last year. It will be interesting to see how far Flacco has moved up on some people's list in the last year.


http://forum.orioleshangout.com/forums/showthread.php?t=70882



Back then I said I'd take Ben and Cutler over him though probably not now. Rivers might be the only guy I'd seriously consider at this point. Not that you could go wrong with a lot of these guys and all things being relatively equal you're going to take your teams guy. I know the Steelers fans would take Ben over everyone else and the Falcons fans would do the same with Ryan. It'll be interesting to hear from some of the guys who don't have a dog in the fight.

Currently, there is not a single quarterback in the league I would rather have. Pretty amazing. He just seems to have it...

He's also a perfect fit for this team and this town. He has a freaking Baltimore (south Jersey/Philly) accent for God's sake.

[McLovin]

I would place extra value on age/cost. Matt Ryan is the only QB I would consider. Someone like Manning would take up 20% of the cap and won't be around in 5-10 years.

[eastonguy]

Yes their are a few... Peyton Manning comes to mind. In all honesty I would trade Flacco for anyone right now though...It looks like we have the best young QB in the league.

Why would you trade Flacco?

[Stevo5278]

Mark Sanchez -- I heard on ESPN and NBC that he's better than Joe Montana, Johnny Unitas, Peyton Manning, and Tom Brady combined.

[NewMarketSean]

Taking age into account, there are not many. Peyton has 4-5 years left. Flacco could have 15 years left. Based on that, I wouldn't take hardly anyone over Flacco at this point.

It's hard to choose Flacco over Big Ben based on Ben's clutch play and SB rings, but I think Flacco could be the more consistent QB. Ben R. has had some up/down seasons thus far, despite his SB rings, and Flacco looks like he will be more capable in the big-play passing game.

[geschinger]

Taking age into account, there are not many. Peyton has 4-5 years left. Flacco could have 15 years left. Based on that, I wouldn't take hardly anyone over Flacco at this point.

It's hard to choose Flacco over Big Ben based on Ben's clutch play and SB rings, but I think Flacco could be the more consistent QB. Ben R. has had some up/down seasons thus far, despite his SB rings, and Flacco looks like he will be more capable in the big-play passing game.

In the dream scenario that you could choose any QB to place on the existing Ravens team (i.e. everything else remains the same) I would take Peyton over Flacco even though he may have only 5 years left. With everything else the Ravens have going for them they would be in a position to be a prohibative favorite to win multiple Super Bowls over the next couple of years rather than just having the chance to be a contender. Personally I would take that over longevity.

[xKHx]

In the dream scenario that you could choose any QB to place on the existing Ravens team (i.e. everything else remains the same) I would take Peyton over Flacco even though he may have only 5 years left. With everything else the Ravens have going for them they would be in a position to be a prohibative favorite to win multiple Super Bowls over the next couple of years rather than just having the chance to be a contender. Personally I would take that over longevity.

Have to agree but with his salary would dismantle our defense. If we are playing fantasy and can have who we want etc, Peyton behind our line would be like 4-5 Superbowls instantly. We would shut up the Steelers fan with there league leading 6.

[NewMarketSean]

In the dream scenario that you could choose any QB to place on the existing Ravens team (i.e. everything else remains the same) I would take Peyton over Flacco even though he may have only 5 years left. With everything else the Ravens have going for them they would be in a position to be a prohibative favorite to win multiple Super Bowls over the next couple of years rather than just having the chance to be a contender. Personally I would take that over longevity.

No team is a lock to win the SB each year. We are already in a position to battle for the playoffs and SB now, so I'd still take Flacco because it would mean that we'd have that franchise QB past the time when Manning would retire.

[McLovin]

Have to agree but with his salary would dismantle our defense.
Right, exactly. We couldn't have the same team with Manning.

[olehippi]

What QB would you rather have than Flacco?

Ah........is this a trick question......or maybe just inanely ridiculous?

I think it should be obvious to everyone by now that Flacco has an insane learning curve and could rapidly develop (if he already hasn't) into one of the best QB's in the NFL. Even without a deep threat receiver, he has already put up two 300+ yard games this season. We can only imagine the "what if" scenario that woukld unfold if we had one.

[Stevo5278]

Have to agree but with his salary would dismantle our defense. If we are playing fantasy and can have who we want etc, Peyton behind our line would be like 4-5 Superbowls instantly. We would shut up the Steelers fan with there league leading 6.

That argument by Steelers fans (and Redskins fans too) is absurd. You cannot make an absolute comparison between franchises in the NFL when one has only been around for 14 years and others have been around for 75+.

Incredibly Redskins fans do try and argue that they have the better franchise because they won 3 SBs in the 80s and early 90s. Forget the fact that they're one of the most poorly-run franchises in all of sports and have had one of the league's worst records since ~1993.

[GoldGlove21]

Mark Sanchez -- I heard on ESPN and NBC that he's better than Joe Montana, Johnny Unitas, Peyton Manning, and Tom Brady combined.

I really like Ryan and Sanchez, but Ryan is the only other guy I would consider, but the fact that I only would consider Ryan for Flacco says a lot. I like Cutler, but his ability verses his mouth is not enough for me to take him over Flacco. I think Cutler makes poor decisions and his interception total will rise as he continues to force throws. Philip Rivers is a guy would take, but in all fairness if Flacco was throwing the ball to LT, Sproles, Vincent Jackson, Chris Chambers, and Antonio Gates I think he would have amazing numbers too. Same can be said about the Packers QB.

Does anyone else think that the right QB is tied to the offense and personnel surrounding the QB? Flacco seems like he fits Baltimore in a way that no other QB in the league.

I love Drew Brees though, but I think a lot of Drew Brees numbers come from the system in the same manner that Tom Brady's numbers come from.

[Mackus]

I don't think you can definitively that Flacco is clearly ahead of some of the other young QBs like Ryan, Rivers, Cutler, Roethlisberger, and might have to add Sanchez to that list. Every team is gonna like their guy the best but the bottom line is there are a whole lot of talented, composed young QBs in the league right now. Its a good age for QBs, much better than about 10 years ago when it seemed like half the teams were starting someone like Jeff Blake.

I'm quite content to have Flacco around for the foreseeable future, and don't really see the need to have the debate over if I'd take anyone else over him. Hypotheticals are more fun to me when my team is bad, like an escape from reality. When the team is good, I like to focus on that, and watching Joe play is a freaking blast. I think his general goofiness and awkwardness when it comes to everything off the football field makes me like him even more.

[Hank Scorpio]

Here's a quick, funny Flacco anecdote from Sunday's game:

After they pulled him, he's standing there next to me drinking a Gatorade.


Flacco: (wincing) "My GOD, did you fart??!?!?!??!"

Hank Scorpio: "Uh, not recently, no."

After questioning some other innocent standbyers, he started sniffing the Gatorade cup.


Flacco: "Dude, I think it's the cup. OH WAIT!!!!!!!!! Oh, man that is just disgusting."

Hank Scorpio: "What is it? I don't smell anything, dude."

Flacco: "Holy ****, it's the back of my hand, dude. I guess b/c it's been under Birk's ass all day."

Hank Scorpio: "That'd do it, I guess. I think Tess has some hand sanitizer. Perhaps you should inquire."

Hank Scorpio: (to Le'Ron McClain) "That's the stinkiest his pinky's been since 10th grade, I think."

:laughlol:

[ccbird]

Here's a quick, funny Flacco anecdote from Sunday's game:

After they pulled him, he's standing there next to me drinking a Gatorade.



After questioning some other innocent standbyers, he started sniffing the Gatorade cup.



:laughlol:

:rofl: Good stuff Hank.

[T2E2C]

Taking into account long term and short term potential, how many QBs would you take over Flacco?

It's surprising to me how short this list is in my mind...

That's easy 25 y.o. Johnny Unitas. That was 1958. :)

[JohnnyK27]

That's easy 25 y.o. Johnny Unitas. That was 1958. :)

:rofl: Classic ..... I would think it would have to be somebody playing now.

[T2E2C]

:rofl: Classic ..... I would think it would have to be somebody playing now.

Just paying homage to the Golden Arm.