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    • Maybe Darth Vader retires before Gunnar hits the market .. this article is a tease .. vague comments by Jim Callis.. still he is 71    https://www.essentiallysports.com/mlb-baseball-news-exclusive-scott-boras-set-to-retire-next-year/
    • If he wasn’t a catcher Rutschman would be one of the few exceptions that I’d extend long term. He’s a winner and a natural leader. Otherwise, unless the player is the one driven for long term security and there’s a financial upside/discount for the team, you have to ride them as far as you can and then let ‘em go.    I think Elias has a really difficult job ahead of him in the next year +. Maintaining the same fire/winning culture this team has established while going through a lot of player turnover is going be a challenge for Hyde too. Sorry…..I veered off-subject 
    • While I do agree with you to an extent you can certainly make moves that are more targeted towards winning in the playoffs over making the playoffs. They might not work, but you can make the attempt.
    • I wouldn’t be surprised if Westburg or Cowser (pending a bit more sample size of success) are the first extensions.
    • The second question is - what extensions can the Orioles do with guys other than these 4, who are not Boras clients? Don’t want to rehash the “Boras clients don’t extend” debate, but let’s assume whatever they can do with these 4 doesn’t impact the ability to do other extensions.  Grayson: With 5 years of control after this one, it would have to be something like 6 years + a couple option years. Possible, but not super high priority.  Bradish: Entirely TBD on how he returns from injury, and even then a bit of the same question as Grayson with so much control remaining.  Westburg, Cowser and Kjerstad: Lumping them all together because I think it’s similar considerations. At their ages when their years of control expire, I don’t think it really makes sense. All 3 have been phenomenal to start the year but still have significant question marks about their games (really high whiff rates and not great K/BB for Westburg and Cowser, Kjerstad’s defense, chase rate and of course not yet facing MLB yet). Mayo and Basallo: Given their ages they are going to be the best candidates, IMO. However, it’s premature now for obvious reasons, particularly with the major questions about how much defensive value they are going to provide at the MLB level.  Unfortunately I have a hard time seeing any extensions happening in the near future, even if Elias and Rubenstein have all the best intentions of wanting to do them. 
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