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    • Aram Leighton    Just Baseball   A 14th round selection in last year’s draft out of State College of Florida, Forret struggled in his pro debut, allowing five earned runs, before tossing 10 consecutive scoreless in his next two outings with 15 strikeouts and one free pass.  Forret’s fastball averaged 95 MPH, touching 97 MPH with above average carry. He flashed a short, sharp slider at 85-87 MPH as well as a curveball in the low 80s, a splitter and an occasional cutter. It’s very early in the newly-turned 20-year-old’s pro career and it seems like he is feeling his arsenal out some. Over his last two successful starts, he has really showed confidence in his slider and increased willingness to throw his split. Forret could be a deep cut name to watch.
    • Do you weight all defensive positions equally? I like to think of Manny Ramirez in conversations like these. He really should have been a full time DH, but they also had Ortiz, so that made it hard. LF in Fenway isn't that difficult (you probably remember, he played RF in Cleveland, but no way they could put him out there in Boston) and he did actually have a knack of throwing out baserunners, but he was overall a buffoon defensively.  Then again, he was worth a little more than 10 runs offensively. 
    • And Ramon Urias as well. Urias might eventually get squeezed out or turn into a backup, but he's been a vital part the last few years while we've been waiting on prospects to make their way up the farm system.
    • I’ll now answer my own question.  Even though these three players are theoretically equivalent from a run differential standpoint, I would not want the player who’s -10 on defense.  That’s because I believe that poor defense bothers pitchers, causes them to try to do too much, and demoralizes them.  So maybe the fielder isn’t “responsible” in a WAR calculation when the rattled pitcher serves up gopher ball or walks the next guy after a poor defensive play, but there’s cause and effect there IMO.  So, give me someone who plays at least decent defense.   And, I think the Orioles feel the same way.  
    • Really!? It's called baseball? Thanks for letting me know!   They are going to lose more games than they win when the starting pitcher has a sucky night. They can't score ten runs a night. The thread is about discussing Grayson Rodriquez's pitching. Just saying his performance doesn't really matter is incorrect and an uninteresting take. 
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