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    • o   (APRIL 23rd)   Orioles win. Red Sox lose ........ TWICE !!!   o
    • An extra update on Grover, from Roch: "Grover recovered from an oblique injury suffered late in camp and was dominant in his outings at extended spring training. He didn’t allow a run in eight innings, walking three batters and striking out an astounding 22. A slow-climber with his fastball velocity, Grover dialed it up earlier than usual this year. I’m told that his heater averaged 95 mph and topped out at 100 mph. There’s room for more."
    • o   The topic is whether or not players on the Orioles would be on another Major League roster if they were not here, and you opined that Bundy would not be when I said that Dwight Smith Jr is playing well enough to at least be a 4th outfielder on a lot of other teams. Bundy's splits going through the opposition's order the first time this season is inordinately better than when he goes through it a second time, save for his last start when he was effective the 2nd and 3rd times through. There is plenty of room on other MLB rosters besides the Orioles for a pitcher whom is capable of pitching well for 2 or 3 innings, just as there is room for other MLB teams that could use Dwight Smith Jr as a 4th outfielder on their roster.   o
    • I'm not telling anyone how to raise their kids.  I don't think it's unreasonable to suggest that if a kid can't handle a normal city atmosphere that it might be a good idea if they were exposed to that more.  Or not.  Just stay in the suburbs and avoid the city environment at all costs.   I was really just comparing my experience.  Me and plenty of my friends and family have been to the stadium dozens if not hundreds of times and have had zero issues involving our personal safety.  There is perception and there is reality.  There is also culture shock.  Which I sympathize with.  But only one way to get over that.     
    • I don't have the data to back this up, but what I've observed leads me to believe the following: 1.  An MLB team's "attendance" is built largely, and increasingly, on the sale of season tickets. (Keep in mind that what we refer to as attendance doesn't reflect the number of fans that pass through the turnstile. It's the number of tickets sold.) That's especially true of "full" season tickets, covering all 81 games, and less true of multi-game ticket packages. 2.  It's a lot easier to sell season tickets in cities where there are (a) large numbers of (big professional service firms (law firms, accounting firms, management consulting firms, etc.) that are prepared to spend on client entertainment and (b) lots of wealthy individuals. Before the Nats arrived, the Orioles did pretty on the first part by attracting season ticket holders from Washington's stable of large service firms. Now they are far, far behind three of their division rivals on both scores, with no hope of closing that gap. 3. Many season ticket buyers (and again, I'm talking about full season tickets) make their decisions to buy, including their decisions whether to hang on to existing full season tickets, well in advance of the season. Those decisions are made based on someone's (and maybe not a very knowledgeable someone's) sense of how the team shapes up for the coming season and how much interest its games will generate among clients, employees and friends. A couple of bad seasons, when season ticket holders see that clients and friends aren't eager to go to those games, will drive away season ticket buyers. If the team performs better than expected, or is more exciting and entertaining to watch than was expected, it's very hard to sell enough tickets on a game-by-game basis to replace those lost season ticket holders.  4. Selling season tickets to the 2018 and 2019 Baltimore Orioles can't have been easy. the same will be true for at least a few more years.
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