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  1. 5 points
    https://www.pitcherlist.com/baltimore-orioles/ Gifs of each pitch thrown and pitch descriptions.
  2. 4 points
    He's not Babe Ruth or Willie Mays. This generation that's Mike Trout, he's lapped the field. But Manny is in a tight grouping in the next group down, he's essentially tied around 33-35 rWAR with Betts, Altuve, and Arenado for everyone born since 1990. Harper is a step behind them at 27. Compare to, say, players born after 1980, through 2008. Pujols was that generation's Trout at 64. Then Teixeria was next, just below Manny and Altuve and company. Then David Wright around Harper. Or 1960 and their value through 1988. Cal was the leader at 44. Then Gywnn at 33, on par with the Machado group. Then Mattingly, Hrbek, Strawbwerry around the Harper camp. Or 1940, through 1968. Santo at 52. Then Torre, Jim Fregosi, and Dick Allen making up the Machado group. 1885 - 1913. This was a quality generation. Cobb was Trout, Collins, Speaker were at 46 and 39, and HOFer Home Run Baker at the Machado level. Joe Jackson had about the same value through 25 as Harper. Or 1900, through 1928. Goslin at 37, just a tick over the Machado group. Then Gehrig, who was a bit behind Machado at same age because he wasn't a regular until 22*. Then Jim Bottomley was the only one over 25. The value Manny has provided through his age would be in the top 2, 3, 5 in most generations. But the 1990- generation has been excellent compared to a lot of others. Most don't have four guys who can match Trout, Manny, Altuve, and Arenado. * I love little nuggets like this. At 21 Lou Gehrig played the entire year for Hartford in the Eastern League. He hit .369 with 40 doubles, 13 triples, and 37 homers, slugging .720. He led Hartford in average by 69 points, in doubles by 16, in triples by one, and in homers by 32 (the rest of the team hit 17 homers combined). He was the only regular on the team to slug .400, so he led them in slugging by 324 points. The Yanks' incumbent 1b, Wally Pipp, was good, led the league in triples but had a 107 OPS+ and was 31. Headache or not, he wasn't long for a regular job with the Yanks.
  3. 4 points
    I think you missed the point of my comment, I mean if it's spend 5M on Sanchez or invest 5M on a Venezualan academy once things settle down there, I'd go with the academy without a second thought. Opportunity cost, what would that 5M get spent on if not on Sanchez, maybe it wouldn't get spent at all, so it's hard to judge.
  4. 3 points
  5. 3 points
    That's what I like about you. You pay attention.
  6. 3 points
    Wildcard wants to keep them in the minors all years to preserve their service time.
  7. 3 points
    Per Roch this morning, Mike Elias is there personally to lead the delegation.
  8. 3 points
    In general, it is good going into these things with the idea that if you asked every single MLB team for a top 100 that you would get rather drastically different ones. So never consider any of this a consensus view, they are not. There is no such thing as consensus with this. Also, Law transitioned from a stat head to a scout amazingly well. He does a good job with his personal looks. His assessments without a personal look can be a bit off and it makes it difficult that he doesn't discern between what he has seen and what he has been told (basically no one does this when everyone should...lots of media scout writers try to sweep their dependence on team contacts under the rug and there are some issues with his DL Hall statements that certainly confused the scouts I know). I think what makes Law's rankings interesting is that he definitely does not rank based on the overall evaluation of the prospect pieces, but with the context and narrative those pieces exist in. Sometimes that desire for a narrative becomes very peculiar as he said in a recent media only interview that the Rays are unique in their heavy investment in scouting and how quickly they will take guys off normal assignments to do specialty assignments. I mean, that describes maybe half of the scouting systems in MLB right now. That, however, feeds into the Rays progressive qual/quant assessment narrative, so it is thrown out there (and, truth be told, Rays scouts like to say how different they are when they really are doing things similar to other organizations). The Orioles at 30? Law likes the way the current front office will likely do things, so, my personal opinion, the ranking is sandbagged. The system sure is in the 20s, somewhere, but at 30...it requires forgetting where they were, that the systems in place that undermined some development are gone, that personnel who sometimes actively worked against the amateur side are gone. I mean, it is a whole new thing. So get ready for some crowd pleasing rankings next year during a cold winter day.
  9. 3 points
    I would contact the manager of season plan sales and if not satisfied work your way up. After the season they had ,you would think they would be responsive to someone who wants to upgrade. But these are the Orioles. You would think they would have done holiday packs and flex packs in the off-season. You would think they would have gotten their promotions out and single game tickets out sooner. When they get their single game tickets out towards the first of March,they will be one of the last times to do so.I would probably call the manager or if you want email. Just use the first letter of the persons first name and then the full last name @orioles.com. https://www.mlb.com/orioles/team/front-office
  10. 3 points
    Man, sorry I went into douchebag mode @Tony-OH - no excuses, guys give one another a little guff, but I was being prideful because of things bothering me that have nothing to do with sports or Dan Duquette. I’d send this in a PM, but I was an ass for the board, the apology belongs here. My apologies.
  11. 2 points
    In a week we will be reading stories about how good every pitcher looks as spring training. But here are three pitchers that intrigue me more then the others. And there were all at Bowie for the month of August. Dean Kremer, Branden Kline and Zach Pop. Who do you want to see and hear about?
  12. 2 points
    Murray crushed the Dotson offering into the upper deck, almost hitting it on the roof. 3-0 Orioles. Wonder if Dotson will like that Eddie bat dropped, then had a nice slow jog around those bases.
  13. 2 points
    I don't think he understands what the word elite means. Edit- I just checked the twitter comments, yea, he's getting killed for calling Jones elite.
  14. 2 points
    Whether this fits with the thread, I'm not sure. It's something I observed: Houston's AAA team is almost entirely homegrown players. Look at the non-roster players hanging out in Round Rock: 14 players, 9 drafted by the Astros. Also: None of those 14 have any Major League experience. I only bring this up because it's completely unique from how the rest of the league is managing their AAA squad. Another team that is handling their AAA squad similarly to the Astros are the Royals; out of the 16 players on their roster, 12 were drafted by the Royals and only two (Adam and Cuthbert) have MLB experience. By comparison, the Orioles have Long, Yaz, and Jimenez as the only players in AAA originally signed by the O's and nearly everyone (except these three, plus Ysla, Grover, and Wotherspoon) have Major League experience. To maintain their rosters this way, the Astros and Royals are both doing the same thing: they aren't signing any MiLB free agents. The only player the Astros have acquired for Round Rock is a AAA Rule 5 catcher. The Royals have only picked up Michael Ynoa and Taylor Featherston as MiLB free agents and Chris Rabago in the AAA Rule 5 draft. They are content to continue building their AAA rosters from in-house with players they've drafted. Again, this is unusual ... you can see that most teams sign MiLB free agents to round out their squads; the Cubs have signed 15 new MiLB free agents this offseason. The Orioles have signed eight. The only players the Astro's have taken in free agency are Chirinos, Brantley, and Miley... all major pacts. The Astros were doing this last year too, I just wonder if once the farm system gets rolling if the Orioles become a team that elects to promote players internally rather than stocking Norfolk with journeymen.
  15. 2 points
    The only thing Vinny Cerrato knows about baseball is that Jeff Samardzija used to play football at Notre Dame.
  16. 2 points
    Nothing sexy here but the three I’m most interested in seeing us Bundy, Cobb and Cashner.
  17. 2 points
    I rank Kieth Law as the thirtieth best mlb prospect writer, so there’s that....
  18. 2 points
    They aren't in the bottom ten, IMHO. Depth is generally overrated in prospect analysis, but the O's system doesn't have lottery ticket depth, they have high probability MLB contributor depth. Teams that in my view have clearly worse systems than the O's, erring on the side of caution. Red Sox (worst in baseball) Yankees (some risky young upside guys, but no upper level) Rangers Marlins Cubs Brewers Giants These teams have clearly stronger systems. Rays Padres Blue Jays Reds Braves White Sox So I feel like anywhere between 7th and 23rd is defensible. Now to be clear, there are a bunch of systems after that top 6 I'd put ahead of the Orioles, but I'd say somewhere in the 12th-15th range. You can write this off as homerism or whatever, but I follow other systems pretty well and while I don't know those systems as well as the O's system (familiarity bias), I think I hedge for this.
  19. 1 point
    Saw a “report” on Twitter that Os have 2 million dollar offer on the table. Supposedly the players rep is telling other teams this.
  20. 1 point
    I can only imagine the threads complaining about Cruz, and trading away DeCinces for Dan Ford if Orioles Hangout existed back in 1983. 🤣
  21. 1 point
    Don't let his statement mean more than it really does. Elias is "in it" for many reasons. 1. Our new policy or openness to IFAs. The Bros are much more open to it than the old man ever was. 2. Elias' obvious focus to all markets and especially international. 3. Elias' background in international scouting. 4. Sanchez' obvious skills. Even DD and co. would have watched him work out. Also his statement that we're in the driver's seat is simply because we have the most money to spend by far. If we want to we can squeeze all the other teams out. IMO they've watched ALL the available video of the guy, maybe Elias or the Int'l scouting director (forget his name...) might even have seen him in person. They'll watch him work out, determine what they think he's worth and make an offer. If he's offered more elsewhere I think (I hope) they'll pass and move on. Spend the money on something else (like someone said, a Venezuelan academy.) There will be much weeping and gnashing of teeth here on the Hangout. Axe handles and pitchforks will be dusted off and a great din will be heard from the crowd. But imo In Elias We Trust.
  22. 1 point
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  24. 1 point
    It isn't money, it is the ability to spend money.
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  27. 1 point
    I am that someone to whom you were responding, however, I did not suggest we should use all of our allotment if necessary. I said it would be stupid to publicly say that they would use all of their resources, even if they intended to outbid all other teams. That was in response to those who seemed dismayed by the FO's public comments.
  28. 1 point
    I love Adam Jones and will root for him no matter where he ends up. Should that be with the Orioles? No. There are numerous reasons why that everyone has already addressed. If he DOES end up here somehow, would I be upset? Nope. I'll be glad to have one player who I can count on for a decent year in 2019.
  29. 1 point
    Maybe the strike zone was actually the strike zone back then. Now adays they want the pitcher to hit a moving target the size of a doughnut.
  30. 1 point
  31. 1 point
    The amount of great talent in baseball right now is amazing. I think one day we'll be looking back on this period of baseball as 'the good ole days.'
  32. 1 point
    I’d prefer he didn’t, just because I don’t want it rubbed in my face 19 times a year, and if they get him at a bargain price that helps their team significantly. But it’s not a personal thing, like Manny is a traitor or something. He can go wherever he chooses and it won’t affect my opinion of him.
  33. 1 point
    One thing to add here is that Law is creating a nice narrative for Elias. "Took over the worse team with the worse farm system and ......" I don't know whether that's Law's reason or not, but I honestly don't really care where he or others rank the farm system. As others have stated, it's very hard to accurately analyze and rank players across 30 teams. Even for a team of people it's a tough go so I can imagine it's darn near impossible to do all 30 systems accurately. That doesn't mean there are not smart guys doing some of this stuff, just to say it's very, very hard to bring it all together and then accurately rank not just players, but systems. It's really just an exercise of opinion in the end.
  34. 1 point
    Oops, so much for webbrick2010’s rhetorical point! But I think there’s an open question as to whether the seemingly weak market for Manny is due to (1) the fact that teams don’t think he’s as good as many O’s fans believed, (2) the baggage from his postseason antics, or (3) fundamental changes in the FA market that are much broader than just issues limited to Manny. My own view is that O’s fans didn’t really have an inflated opinion of Manny, because it’s been the national media, not Orioles fans, who have been feeding the $300/$400 mm contact number for years. And I definitely think there have been some significant market changes, too, as many FA’s have experienced the last two years. I think we’ll have to see what contracts are doled out over the next offseason or two to really know how much of this is Manny-specific.
  35. 1 point
    According to a promo for the Vinny & Hanie (sp?) show on 105.7 The Fan, Law will be on later this morning/early afternoon to explain his rankings. Didn't give a time.
  36. 1 point
    "Lalala, I can't hear you, lalalala, it goes against my worn out narrative, lalala!" Over 30 career WAR, almost all before he was of the legal age to rent a car. That is the very definition of an elite caliber player. To say that he simply just is not that good is to make a damn fool of yourself.
  37. 1 point
    Gotcha. Thanks Luke. Personally I'd really like Harvey to get an extended looked in the pen.
  38. 1 point
    Kline and Harvey are both on the 40 man and will be there. Tate and Ortiz as well. Akin is the only real “snub”.
  39. 1 point
    1. You, and others, need to get over it. 2. Be a fan of your team, don't worry about the team 3.5 hours to the north. 3. It makes you, and others, seem like you have an inferiority complex. 4. Calling them the "MFY" does not make any Yankee fan upset. It is not a sick burn. In fact, if I were a Yankee fan (I'm not), I would be like "heck YEAH they're the MFin' Yankees!!"
  40. 1 point
    I'm a season ticket holder(13 game plan) and I have had the opposite experience. I was switched to a different rep last year because my previous one had been promoted. Both were and have been very responsive and very helpful. As someone else stated you should contact the season ticket manager. I was considering not renewing this year, not because of the rebuild, just because the past two years I struggled to get to all 13 games. Last year rain outs really screwed me up and i ended up not using 3 games which is a decent amount of money since I am in club section row 1 at first base. But in the end I decided to renew. I do enjoy going to the games, I just need to be a little more proactive earlier about selling or trading tickets so I don't end up wasting any.
  41. 1 point
    Cole was at one point considered to be among the most promising pitching prospects in all of baseball, and surely the strikeout rate, swinging-strike rate and chase rate could hold appeal to another team — particularly one that is thin on rotation depth and/or has multiple bullpen spots up for grabs. He’ll need to learn to keep the ball in the yard, but the level at which Cole missed bats in 2018 would be elite if he proved it to be sustainable; the 15.9 percent swinging-strike rate he logged as a Yankee would’ve ranked 12th in the game among qualified relievers last year. https://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2019/02/indians-designate-a-j-cole-for-assignment.html wouldnt Cole be a step above Wright and other pitches on our team?
  42. 1 point
    Thank you. One reason why I love this forum so much. I come here to read and talk about baseball. If I wanted to read about politics there are thousands of other websites to choose from. Also don't follow sportswriters on twitter who feel it's their duty to also pontificate about politics.
  43. 1 point
    My dad and I have shared a 13 game plan for as long as I can remember, which I typically make it to 9 or 10....last year I went to 4(he goes to all of them). I typically go to 2-3 more with my friends, family, & kids (last year we went to one). We always pick one way game to check out a new stadium each year and catch 2 a series when we do that. This year I told my Dad I couldn't commit to more than a couple games in the 13 game plan, we will probably go to one game with the kids, and we will pick out a new stadium to visit to see a couple games. It's pretty exciting to be under new management, but it's also extremely depressing to know the O's will not be competitive for at least 4 years.
  44. 1 point
    I loved having Manny on the O’s, and thought he’d get 10/$300 mm this offseason. But I’m not exactly crying for the guy that he’s not happy with his offers. He should get the best long term deal he can and get an opt-out put in there.
  45. 1 point
    None and none, save perhaps for a Spring Training game next month.
  46. 1 point
    I think I went to about 20ish at Camden. Went to more at the lower levels. Depending on how this year goes, job-wise, I might go to more. Got a few "must go" games lined up.
  47. 1 point
    I thought the OP was declaring that the Rays had fired their manager two weeks before spring training!
  48. 1 point
    20-ish in 2018, 20-ish in 2019. I am a 29 game plan holder and I trade tickets to go to the good giveaway games and go to few if any elite or prime non-giveaway games because (1) I don't relish being surrounded by Red Sox and Yankees fans and (2) I live 1,000 feet from home plate so going to weekend games is no more convenient than going to mid-week games. If the weather is good and I don't have plans I will gladly go to a game last minute. I also have no qualms about leaving early. I topped out in the low 40s in 2014.
  49. 1 point
    I have rarely put anyone on ignore and currently have no one with that designation. I prefer to get into the fray.
  50. 1 point
    I don't really carry cash all that often but taking away ones availability to pay in cash at all is going too far. Some people, a lot of older people, still deal in cash only and in addition when I go out I like to take a set amount of cash so I know what I'm spending. When I'm out of cash I'm done spending. Factor in issues with outages and I think they are going too far. Not a fan.
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