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  1. 9 points
    This one happened to me personally when I was batboy for the Orioles in 1970.I was a kid and I was sitting in the dugout at Miami Stadium.I sat next to Earl Weaver and George Bamberger.Suddenly at the end of the dugout there was a commotion. Bobby Grich, then a rookie, was ready to come to blows with Frank. We were stunned. Earl and George started to run over to break it up...and I got there just in time to hear this exchange. Grich:"I hit 32 home runs in Rochester.I am ready to be the new Orioles second baseman. Frank:(please forgive the profanity)"You aren't shit to me or anyone on this team." Grich:"You don't respect me? I'll kick your ass" Frank:"I don't respect ANYONE who talks about their numbers at Triple A. You haven't done shit at this level." Suddenly Grich calmed down. Grich"'You don't think I can play at this level?" Frank: "Im not saying that.I'm saying your numbers mean nothing till you prove it here." That exchange capsulized perfectly what kind of player, leader and person Frank was. He didn't care if you were a "hotshot" prospect or a veteran. If you didn't produce for his team...you weren't even worthy of a discussion. Year later, Bobby Grich who has been my friend every day since then told me this, "On that day, I grew to respect Frank. As a player i was full of drive and ambition(Grich deserves to be in the HOF). But Frank set me straight that day. Until you play the game, and play well....you don't belong." Frank never cared who he offended or embarrassed. He only cared about one thing. Who can help us win? Today I spoke to Jim Palmer the HOF pitcher and my very close friend about Frank. Heres what he said. "Lots of people live for adoration and love in this game. Frank Robinson didn't care about love because he didn't want love. He wanted respect". Frank Robinson didn't come to play. He came to WIN.
  2. 4 points
  3. 3 points
    https://www.baltimorebaseball.com/2019/02/09/joe-angel-retiring-orioles-broadcasts/amp/?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter&__twitter_impression=true Joe will be “retiring” at age 71.
  4. 3 points
    He's the Rear Admiral of the Good Ship Lollipop
  5. 3 points
    Mel Proctor and John Lowenstein on HTS. That was something special.
  6. 3 points
    Mel Proctor worked HTS with Brother Lo, classic TV. Michael Reg-hi, with his noticeably fake toupee, was another insufferable.
  7. 3 points
    I will miss Joe a lot more than Manny and I liked Manny.
  8. 3 points
    That’s a huge kick in the nuts. Angel was the rare broadcaster who could keep a game entertaining even when the O’s were hopelessly out of it. I’m very sad to hear this news. And it’s awfully close to the season start to be hearing this. I agree with interloper that it’s silly to speculate that Angel’s departure is anything other than his own choice. If it isn’t, we’ll know soon enough.
  9. 3 points
    I'm fully and strongly against rumor mongering. The article linked sure made it seem like it wasn't as simple as he was just retiring. So if you want to blame someone for how the conversation is framed, in this case, you should blame Dubroff for how he wrote the story. It isn't rumor mongering to read a story the way it's written.
  10. 3 points
    Stop rumor mongering. The guy is 71 and he hasn't commented yet. There would be no reason for ownership to not want him back. He is a treasure.
  11. 2 points
    He was born in segregated Little Rock Arkansas in 1937. Jim Crow laws didn't allow blacks and white to mingle almost anywhere. He was an aspiring baseball player, who never even knew a black man except for a man named Sonny, who oversaw his little league park where he played. That was the only black man he had ever met. He never played baseball with a black player...until things changed with the Little Rock Nine. The Little Rock Nine was a group of nine African American students enrolled in Little Rock Central High School in 1957, which was a seminal moment in the Civil Rights movement. This young man never really understood prejudice. His father was a decent and kind man,instilling respect and honor to his sons... and the young man and his brothers would eventually play against, but not with, black players. He left Little Rock to play pro baseball...the same year Little Rock became a center of racial tension and change.... His name was Brooks Calvert Robinson, and he never even knew a black man in baseball he would call a close friend. He was born in segregated Texas, moved to Oakland, California after his father abandoned the family, and he endured unbelievable racial hatred. He enrolled at McClymonds High School in Oakland, hoping to play pro basketball or baseball. His high school teammates were Bill Russell, who became an NBA legend,Curt Flood, who would eventually challenge the reserve clause in Major league baseball, and perennial All Star Vada Pinson. HIS name was Frank Robinson, and he went to the big leagues, becoming an instant star for the Cincinnati Reds, earning Rookie of the Year honors. In December 1965, Frank Robinson was traded to the Baltimore Orioles, and both men's lives would change forever. Brooks and Frank Robinson, the "Robinson Boys". Baltimore was mostly segregated in 1966, Frank's first year in Baltimore...but Brooks, remembering his father's tolerance and kindness, made his new teammate feel at home. Then he grew to understand what racial prejudice really was. "When Frank came to Baltimore", Brooks told me tonight, "I saw things I couldn't believe. He couldn't rent a decent apartment, he couldn't buy a house. So I put my name "Robinson" on a down payment for a house. They thought the "Robinson" was me. But it was for Frank. When the realtors found out it was for this new black player...well, lets say the deal magically fell through". I was angry for Frank. Angry for his pain. And for the first time in my life...I came to understand how bigotry caused pain and suffering for people...especially a family". Frank Robinson, thanks to Brooks' insistence and name got a modest home in Baltimore..and Frank Robinson, for the rest of his life grew to love and admire...the "other Robinson" . They led their teams to two world titles, and played in 5 World Series together. In the first inning of the first World Series the Orioles ever played in,Frank and Brooks Robinson hit back to back home runs...and their story became legend. They won that World Series over the Dodgers in a four game sweep. Brooks Robinson called Frank early last week. His old friend and teammate was dying of bone cancer. 'When I got on the phone with him, his voice was thin. I told him I was praying for him. I told him that I loved him. But I knew I would never speak to him again. Just as I said goodbye on the phone, I got choked up. I knew it was the final goodbye." Brooks and Frank Robinson were inexorably linked in baseball history...but their friendship was authentic and the two families were deeply close..until the end. "You can't really understand the hardships that people have in their lives unless you walk in their shoes", said Brooks to me Thursday night. "He led by example and he led his team in ways I didn't..and couldn't". "I knew he was the greatest player I ever played with", he said, "but more than that, he was one of the greatest men I ever knew." Brooks Robinson and Frank Robinson. The 'Robinson Boys" , couldn't have been different in personality or style. But baseball brought them together. They played the game as teammates and learned that great teammates and great friends brought out the best in each other. "I'll really miss Frank. He had a great life. He had a hard life. But he made the game batter, he made his team a champion, and he made my life so much better". I'm a better man for having known him," said Brooks. As I hung up the phone, I remembered a famous quote by humanitarian, Albert Schweitzer who put it this way: "In everyone's life, at some time, our inner fire goes out. It is then burst into flame by an encounter with another human being. We should all be thankful for those people who rekindle the inner spirit. Brooks and Frank. Their inner spirits will be intertwined for eternity.
  12. 2 points
    Did anyone consider that at 71-years old Joe doesn't want to follow up a 47-win season with another rebuilding year that is looking at another 100+ loss season? i wouldn't blame him one bit to not want a travel this much at this stage in his career to cover a team at this stage of the rebuild. I hope the Orioles bring someone new to be play by play and maybe pair him with Ben McDonald as much as possible.
  13. 2 points
    Bordick is a very smart baseball man who unfortunately it appears has gone to the Jim Hunter school of rainbows and unicorns school of broadcasting. His usage of baseball cliches continually, including some that it appears he made up himself (steaks for RBIs), drives me up a wall. Also his penchent for reading the stats put on the screen for a new pitcher or when talking about a prospects is insufferable. Give us analysis of the numbers, not read them off.
  14. 2 points
    A few years ago during the first spring training game, Hunter referred to Chris Lee's 5-0 record at Bowie the year before to indicate how good a prospect he was. I was speechless.
  15. 2 points
    Anything that allows Hunter to be heard more is bad news.
  16. 2 points
    I don't hold a grudge and hope the Yankees have as much success as the O's have had with Davis.
  17. 2 points
    I liked Miller better, but I like Joe a lot. Having both was ideal. They played well in the sandbox together.
  18. 2 points
    It figures. The year I drop MASN from my extra sports satellite package to save money, thinking "but I get to hear the magnificent Joe" and now he's retired. The long season just got longer for me.
  19. 2 points
    I was never a big fan of Fred, but I do appreciate the affection people have for him being a local guy from Baltimore. Chuck Thompson, Jon Miller, and Joe Angel are the ones I admire the most. You can tell Jim Hunter loves the Orioles, but he is often insufferable. We're left with waiting for the Orioles to announce their plans for 2019.
  20. 2 points
    Your last line in particular tells me you know nothing about @weams. Nothing. Any "drama" here is from you continuing to get in a twist about this. I suggest you take it offline.
  21. 2 points
    Jim Hunter: bringing new meaning to the term spin rate.
  22. 2 points
    This is going to be tough. So much Hunter. Praying that McDonald goes full time.
  23. 1 point
  24. 1 point
    Oh, I am going to miss Joe. Probably caught a 100 games a year on radio. TV sound down. Radio up. Go ahead, Joe. Don’t know what I’ll do now, with at least a 3-5 rebuild ahead. Joe made the last half of the 14 year rebuild bearable. This is just as bad as when Jon Miller was let go, and Mel and Brother Lowh. Oh, no. Don’t forget Brooksie. In their stead, we get Hunter, Cerone and Bordo. Not saying the circumstances are the same. If this is Joe’s choice, he know’s the grind ahead, and he is due for a rest. I traveled at least 2 nights a week for 11 months a year for 16 years. Bus rides, taxi rides, bag drags, airport hassles, motels, no home cooked meals, getting in at 5AM after a 16 hour day including all of the above. I loved my job, too, but when my employer said I could retire, I did so with a smile. I hope he saved a penny or two along the way and finances are not a concern. I remember Cerone. Don’t know how he got the job. A dyed in the wool Yankee. Always talking about them. Thankfully gone after a year. Ken Levine. Another personality that was in over his head as a talking head. I heard a story that Jon Miller was not impressed and basically said,”I have to go to the can.”and left Levine holding the mike for 45 minutes. Thankfully gone after a year, too. Baltimore has been fortunate in having a stellar quartet of pbp announcers on radio in their 65 year MLB history. Ernie Harwell, Chuck, Jon Miller and Joe. Very fortunate.
  25. 1 point
    It's not always about you, CoC. Sheesh.
  26. 1 point
  27. 1 point
    THIS^^^! http://www.masnsports.com/school-of-roch/2019/02/more-memories-of-frank-robinson.html It was obvious that Joe and his family were close to Frank. I am hoping during this time of grieving everyone involved in any “negotiations” might step back and give it some time. I could not help but notice that in Roch’s piece he identified Joe as “radio broadcaster” without naming any affiliation.
  28. 1 point
    Ben McDonald ,when he was being interviewed about Frank Robinson said he would be doing more broadcasts this year.
  29. 1 point
  30. 1 point
    Sticking by my original prediction: Manny to MFY
  31. 1 point
    I mute the tv. He’s awful. And people think he’s awful across all age groups too. Not sure why he keeps getting airtime. I get the homer thing but he has zero credibility. Hopefully he just does player announcing and that’s it. I can tolerate Bordick but Hunter gets the mute or turn the channel from me.
  32. 1 point
  33. 1 point
    I remember a few years when Jon Miller and Brooks were doing games together. Absolute Heaven! Another team I liked were Brother Lo and I can't remember the PbP guy's name. Wasn't Michael Reghi altho I liked him too. See You Later!
  34. 1 point
    Baseball and football play-by-play seems to be near death these days. I try to tune into games while I'm traveling, etc., and most of the play-by-play folks pale in comparison to previous generations. I'm sure the listening audience is a tiny, tiny fraction of what it was 20 years ago, much less 30 years ago. I am sure the vast majority of good young broadcasters are on TV. Radio game calling is definitely a dying art, with a few exceptions here and there.
  35. 1 point
    I feel the same. Enjoyed his voice, but he was frustratingly bad at play-by-play. It was like he thought the audience was watching the game on TV while listening to him.
  36. 1 point
    Very sad news. I don't listen to the radio much but when I do, listening to Angel is a treat. Maybe this keep Hunter off the TV. Anyway, best wishes to Joe Angel. He is an all time great and I've enjoyed him over the years as many of us have. He will be missed.
  37. 1 point
    And his often "yuk-worthy corn pone humor" got me through decades of crap baseball. We are certainly poorer without him. I liked Miller....I loved Angel! Hunter and Thorne?!
  38. 1 point
    I hated his weird mispronunciation of "rah-DREEEEEE-gez." He tortured the name, "Rodriguez," at every opportunity. Native Spanish speakers pronounce the name more like, "rud-REE-ges."
  39. 1 point
    Probably no connection between this and how much Ben works. The Orioles will have to hire a new PBP guy, orobifrom the minor league ranks. And Ben has probably already determined how many games he will do color work for and that isn't likely to change. Ben was on 105.7 yesterday morning talking about Frank, who he played for. And he said he would be back doing some games this year but didn't say how many. He did mention that he would do some spring training games.
  40. 1 point
    Yeah, he's getting up there in age. I hope the O's do him justice with a bobble head or a t-shirt night. He is my favorite sports announcer of all time. I love you Joe Angel. Your sense of humor, your courage to criticize when necessary, your pure enthusiasm. I can only assume you are a good man based on how you have handled yourself in your role for these past few decades. O's Hall of Famer, no doubt.
  41. 1 point
    Thank you Joe for your dedication to Orioles baseball! I grew up listening to Joe on the radio, and my dad still watches every game with the TV volume off and the radio turned on, mainly to listen to Joe. I'm going to miss his signature call at the end of each Orioles victory, "Orioles...are in...the win! column!" I'm hoping Adam Pohl gets an opportunity to broadcast Orioles games. He has been calling Frederick Keys and Baysox games since 2006 and really knows the young players in the system. https://staatalent.com/client/adam-pohl/
  42. 1 point
    I can agree that Hart and Wright both need to go. It looks like neither will make the team out of ST and neither has an option. They can be outrighted which must be why they are still around. Wilkerson and Alberto will compete for spots on the infield. There are two or three spots open in the infield. ST will determine if they can be valuable. Wilkerson has an option.. Yacabonis has a good chance at being a long man out of the pen. The O's are going to need a couple of guys in the pen that can go 4 innings. He has an opton left.
  43. 1 point
    Thanks Tony. As I said he wasn't a "touchy feely" man. He didn't care that you loved him. He only demanded you respect him.He was the Bill Russell of MLB, a natural link to Jackie Robinson....his idol.
  44. 1 point
  45. 1 point
    I get that Trevor got designated for assignment, but for goodness sakes, what's his last name!?!
  46. 1 point
    I don't think they will lose 100. The good thing about having low expectations is that they will almost certainly exceed them. And even if they lose 100 I guarantee that it will be way more entertaining than watching last year's underachieving bunch.
  47. 1 point
    D.J. Stewart has had an incredible OBP every step of the way, including a small sample size last year in the majors. I’m not guessing wether he will succeed or not but a projected .292 OBP ??? I’d be shocked if he was under .330. Guy has a great eye.
  48. 1 point
    On the Orioles? DJ Stewart.
  49. 1 point
    Whenever the Orioles are good are the “good ole days.”
  50. 1 point
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