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  1. 78 points
    Just as the title says, I have been told by somebody that has knowledge of the situation that the Orioles have agreed to a 1 year deal with 1B Derrek Lee pending physical... Don't know the money. Told that LaRoche was seeking a 4 year deal @ ~$14M a year.
  2. 68 points
    http://www.overstream.net/view.php?oid=i7uusbmdrquk
  3. 53 points
    As most of you guys know, I played baseball for the Red Sox in the early 90's.. was drafted by Lou Gorman and two years later Duquette took over as GM. I spent 2 years while Duquette was GM for the Red Sox What I wanted to do is give you guys an inside feel as to how the scene was prior and during while I was with the organization. Also give you a feel, as the fan what to expect from him from the top all the way down to the players. Before Duquette In the years of 92-93 the organization was pretty much how the O's are today.. not many prospects within the organization. Player personnel wasn't very good, it was more like a good old boys network that have been around for years. Coaching wasn't very good.. Although Bailey was pretty decent at Pawtucket.. but the remaining coaching staff through the minors was below average. Spring Trainings were ran like a country club.. no accountability, outside of just showing up on time. People would workout and then take off and go home while the game was still going on... it was a come and go as you please atmosphere.. but just make sure you show up on time LOL Clemens basically ran the show, he didn't have to abide by any of these rules and looking back, i can see why him and Duquette bumped heads once he took over the GM position in 94. The facilities were just god awful, the Winter Haven complex made Ft. Lauderdale look like Camden Yards. Hell I remember getting our catered lunch and there was a pond right next to the clubhouse.. they'd have gators sitting right next to the damn tables while we were eating... as a 17 year old kid.. that scared the be-jesus out of me. LOL It just looked like a junkyard rather than a big league facility. Kind of like how the minor league complex looked in Sarasota for a long time, but 20 times worse. In 93, they relocated to Ft. Myers to a beautiful new stadium and minor league complex.. it was the best of the best at the time. Duquette the New GM Duquette was hired in 94 and when we showed up for spring training that year everything was totally different than it had been in the past. Majority of the player development and coaching staffs had been let go and he replaced them with hand picked coaches/development guys. This is where he's going to be most valuable to the Orioles. If you take a look back at all the guys he brought in to the organization as coaches and player development you'll recognize all these names are now in the big leagues in one form or another. Guys he brought in are as follows: Ken Macha, Bob Geren, Rick Peterson, DeMarlo Hale, Bob Shaeffer (Minor League Director), Al Nipper and the list goes on and on.. I'm sure i'm missing some good names but you get the picture... Most of these guys were guys that had bright futures in the game of baseball as coaches, player development guys etc... There were no guys just hanging around to collect a paycheck.. I can tell you as players, we couldn't stand Bob Shaeffer.. He was instructed by Duquette to change the entire MO of the organization from free reign, to fall in line or pack your stuff up and leave. Big change for us as players... I can tell you now, looking back.. I respect Shaeffer and Dick Berardino for all of their tough love.. They helped mold me to who I am today. Just like all 18 year old kids, we thought we knew what's best for us, when really we had no clue... Thank god for those guys. Everything was regimented, from report times, treatments to side work, early work, stretching, conditioning, how you wore your uniform, off-season workouts, etc.. There was a plan for everything. No more wandering around in the off-season trying to figure out what to do to prepare for the upcoming season. This is another area where Duquette will help in this organization that sometimes seems like it's just a paper bag floating in the wind below the big league club. He will bring in top notch player personnel, coaches, trainers and FO guys to get this club to where it needs to be.. as you heard in his presser, he likes to have a lot players so they can help at the big league level and help bolster the big league team via trades... Make one thing for certain, he will not wait for the market to develop... he will execute trades if they're good for him.. he's very aggressive in this category. His track record speaks for itself. International Front in 95 I noticed we were getting a lot more latin guys into camp... He's very big on the international front. This will be a big sigh of relief for members on this board who constantly nailed McPhail for hardly dipping his toes into these waters. While I was there.. He brought in Freddy Sanchez, Rafael Betancourt (SS at the time), Jose Olmeda (top 10 prospect at one time) to name a few.. I'm missing a bunch of names so bare with me.. i'm trying to write all of this out for you guys... but I noticed we had latin guys from Panama, Dominican, PR, Aruba, Venezuela etc.. We had them from all over man and a bunch of them. He likes to gobble up as much talent from those countries in hopes that he lands a handful of prospects.. as you heard in his presser today, he likes to be aggressive and sign at reasonable dollars and get as many in as he can. Talent Duquette after 94 infused the club with more talent than it's ever had.. outside of me:thumbsup1: he drafted very well.. Garciaparra, Hillenbrand, Youklis, Pavano, Brian Rose, Donnie Sadler, Brian Barkley, Michael Coleman, Cole Liniak, Paxton Crawford, Matt Kinney, Jim Chamblee, Rontrez Johnson, Steve Lomasney.. as you see those are just a few names that made the big leagues under his drafts.. 94 and 95 drafts... Those are a lot players that either made it to Boston or were dealt to bolster the big league club. I can't recall the O's ever having that many players from 2 drafts making it to the big leagues. Believe me folks, they just don't call anyone up to the big squad unless you're good. Even though most of you might know these names, they were well respected names at the time. Duquette The Person As most of you have read, he's known to have pissed a lot of people off in Boston... Yes, he can come off as a *****.. He's a very intelligent person and he knows it... some people look at that as arrogance... I know with my one on one talks with him as a player.. he truly wants you to succeed.. He's there for you and will do anything for you and is very personable with us... But if you step out of line, he will be your worst night mare... Let's just say without divulging too many details... I made a mistake and it cost me a week on the DL for something stupid.. After my first treatment session he called me into his office.. I sat down and he laid into my tail and was warned if anything was to happen like that again, I might as well not report to the park. Pretty clear on my instructions All in all, the players got along with him well.. he's very personable when the cameras aren't around. Overall he's exactly what this team needs in a very bad way.. some of my best years came under his tutelage.. He's not afraid to take chances, he will invest in the international market heavily and he's got great connections within the industry. And he's not afraid to piss someone off to make his team better... I'm pretty excited for the O's organization today, they have a good guy finally running the ship like most here wanted it to be ran. Summary As you can see, the O's organization is almost similar to what he inherited in Boston. He developed a lot of talent to either help the big team or to trade to get vital pieces for the big team. He had second to none player development guys as well as exec's to get that organization back to elite status.. Most of those pieces for 2004 were brought along in the organization that he developed and he doesn't get enough credit for that. I think the O's finally got someone that will help them be relevant in Major League Baseball again. If anyone has any questions relating to my time spent there under him that I might not have covered just fire away and I will answer all questions in this thread. SoxHotCorner
  4. 41 points
    OK, Frobby's post on ball/strike calls got me thinking, and when I start thinking and want to procrastinate from actual work I research baseball. So I went and got the Pitch/FX data from every game the Orioles have played this year, and did some work. I looked at the starters for the Orioles and their opponents. Using the Pitch/FX graphs and their strike zone box, I counted every ball and called strike and whether it was in the zone or not. I did not record how far out of the zone it was or whether it was consistent from pitcher to pitcher. I totaled these numbers in a few ways. First, I was able to get the number of bad calls per game and a percentage of the ball/strike calls that were bad. Also, I took all of the bad calls that favored the Orioles and subtracted all of the bad calls that favored their opponent to get a differential (so, a positive number means that the umps were favoring the Orioles). Finally, I took that same idea and got the percentage of the bad calls that went the Orioles' way. Here's the data: Date Opponent #Bad %Bad Diff %FavorOs Pitchers Umpire4/6 Twins 15 13.9 -7 26.7 Arrieta vs Pavano Tim Tschida4/7 Twins 12 12.6 +2 58.3 Hunter vs Liriano Jeff Nelson4/8 Twins 15 15.3 +3 60.0 Hammel vs Swarzak Bill Welke4/9 Yankees 25 25.0 -3 44.0 Matusz vs Nova Paul Schrieber4/10 Yankees 25 20.2 -9 32.0 Chen vs Garcia Tim Welke4/11 Yankees 16 15.4 -12 12.5 Arrieta vs Sabathia Laz Diax4/13 Blue Jays 8 8.7 0 50.0 Hunter vs Morrow Jim Wolf4/14 Blue Jays 20 18.9 +6 65.0 Hammel vs Alvarez Derryl Cousins4/15 Blue Jays 12 10.6 -8 16.7 Matusz vs Drabek Bob Davidson4/16 White Sox 18 14.5 -10 22.2 Arrieta vs Humber Lance Barrett4/17 White Sox 13 13.5 -1 46.2 Chen vs Danks Gary Darling4/18 White Sox 9 8.6 -1 44.4 Hunter vs Peavy Cory Blaser4/19 White Sox 17 14.0 -1 47.1 Hammel vs Floyd Jerry Meals4/20 Angels 15 16.5 -5 33.3 Matusz vs Williams Dale ScottTotals 220 14.9 -46 39.5 Couple of caveats: Pitch/FX strikezone obviously isn't perfect, and I likely made several counting mistakes, so these statistics can almost certainly be improved. However, it seems like the O's are getting shafted strongly overall. In particular, Jake Arrieta has gotten 6 generous strike calls and squeezed 20 times (-14 overall) and Brian Matusz has gotten 8 generous strike calls and squeezed 19 times (-11 overall). Our other three pitchers are close to even: Hunter +3, Hammel -3, Chen -1. Opposing pitchers have gotten 65 generous strikes and squeezed 45 times in total. And, of course, the bias was most egregious in the Yankees series. However, it doesn't seem to matter THAT much, at least in terms of wins and losses. We beat the Twins with a -7, lost to the Yankees with a -9, beat the White Sox with a -10, lost to the White Sox with a -1. Really, we need more data to see how much the effect of this ball/strike differential matters to winning. Two games in particular stand out as good umpiring jobs: 4/13 vs Blue Jays and 4/18 vs White Sox. Kudos to Jim Wolf and Cory Blaser. Two stand out as bad: 4/11 vs Yankees and 4/16 vs White Sox. Let's hope we see less of Laz Diaz and Lance Barrett. Happy to answer additional questions that people may have.
  5. 33 points
    I hadn't been active on this page this weekend, because I had some houseguests, dear friends who stayed with me, and I wanted to give them my undivided attention.It was a lot more than having some old college buddies over, but it was a very, very, special reunion for me, and one I will never forget a long as I live.I was batboy in spring training for the Orioles when I was a kid, and I made some very close friends during that time.This weekend...TWO of them stayed with me. For 72 hours..time stood still.Brooks Robinson and Jim Palmer were my house guests this weekend.They came to town for Frank Robinson's celebration of life ceremony at Dodger Stadium. Brook's eldest son, Brooks David also joined us...it was a kind of adult slumber party with two of baseball's greatest players, Hall of Famers both.I wouldn't dream of them staying at a hotel,and wouldn't think of allowing them to rent a car or use any kind of service.So I picked them up at the airport, and for the weekend, any wish from them, was not just my command..it was my extreme pleasure.My honor.Jim Palmer and I have been friends for close to 50 years. We maintain a very playful,and funny relationship, and I cherish it.But Brooks is something, someone else.To me, he is royalty, only he doesn't think of himself that way.He'll be 82 in May. He's had some health issues in recent years, and his gait is slower, but his mind and spirit is still sharp.When Brooks and his son Brooks David came into my house, a house decorated in Orioles memorabilia..I didn't want to embarrass him by making it look like it was a shrine to him, but I also have to be who I am.I didn't take many things down.Instead of feeling embarrassed, Brooks seemed to look at my collection with wonder and joy. He loved my Beatles room and my collection of rock and roll memorabilia and juke boxes.To watch Brooks and his son sit and enjoy my train set(Brooks has one too) was a thrill too...but mostly all the guys were just content to reminisce and trade stories.Brooks Robinson is perhaps the most beloved person I have ever known in my life...and not because he works at it...but precisely because he DOESNT.He doesn't "dish". Doesn't do "snark", and would never ever tell stories out of school. Perhaps most of all, thats why people love him.As great a player as he was, with 16 Gold Gloves, he never ever pulls any kind of rank..never ever feels entitled to anything.Class isn't something you "work at". You have it, and your manner dictates it...class people never talk abut themselves...never use their name as a third person.In all the years I've known Brooks Robinson, it never occurred to him that he was BROOKS ROBINSON.Palmer is more funny, and acerbic and a story teller, and we laughed for hours recounting war stories and inside jokes, but Brooks let Palmer do the "entertaining".I could say so many things about this weekend, but some thoughts are matters of the heart...mine..so I'll keep most to myself.But at one point at dinner, I will share one intimacy.It was time to toast my friends,and toasting Palmer was easy and funny...but then I turned to Brooks and said this:"I want you to know, and you do, how much I love you, and cherish you, and you must know, you are my hero, and always will be".I then started to cry.Brooks looked at me and said"I love you too Roy, and always will".Then Brooks David looked at me and said something that made me feel like a million bucks."Roy, I love YOU, because you love my dad."The weekend was so joyous and warm and wonderful, and Palmer kept it light with hysterical banter.But the love was everywhere.We all attended Franks memorial on Sunday, and Brooks was asked to speak about Frank:'Frank was about winning, and when when we won with him, we won something more than baseball games...we won as people..just knowing him was a win..I'm a better man from having known him", he said.Then we went back to my house. Brooks slept in MY bedroom.I slept in my guest room.The King gets the best room, the best bed.I wouldn't have it any other way.I just dropped Brooks and Brooks David off at the airport.Palmer drove back to his home in his brand new car.When I returned from the airport just now.. I was left alone in my house, and took a deep breath.My childhood heroes were my house guests this weekend, and every moment, every second, was cherished by me, and it won't ever be forgotten.I was introduced to becoming a sportscaster directly because of Brooks. He was my first interview when I was just 14.But far more than that, he was an inspiration.He was a man of character and generosity, and grace, and he specialized in human decency.I have never met a more decent and beloved person in all my life.How I carry myself in life came from my parents, and Brooks.I only hope I served them well.The house is quiet now. The week will be busy for me, but this past weekend my home was alive with memories, laughter, and a ton of love.As I dropped the Robinson's off a the curb.. we hugged tightly, and Brooks walked away to the counter. My eyes got misty again as they disappeared.You never know about life. You never know how much time you have left with people you dearly love.Nothing is guaranteed for anyone.So I was so deeply satisfied and grateful that our time this weekend was so very well spent, and the words were spoken, not kept away or protected.My God, how wonderful a life I've had. So many joys, so many experiences.This weekend ranked right near the top.To borrow Brooks' line about Frank..."Im a better man for having known them".SAFE TRAVELS GUYS.
  6. 27 points
    When I was batboy for the Baltimore Orioles in Miami, things didn’t start in the clubhouse till someone said, “Frank is here”. “Frank”,of course, was Frank Robinson, future Hall of Famer, one of baseball’s greatest players ever, and the leader of the team. There were great names in that locker room, and a few would also someday be Hall Of Famers too. Brooks Robinson, Jim Palmer,later Eddie Murray, and of course, manager Earl Weaver. But there was only one “Frank”. Frank came “here”, in Baltimore in 1966. He was traded away after the Cincinnati Reds GM called him “an old 30.” Frank would use that comment to motivate him, empower him. “When I saw him double down the right field line on the first day of Spring Training, I told Dick Hall, “we just won the pennant with that guy.”. He wasn’t wrong. Robinson won the Triple Crown and led the Orioles to their first world championship that year. As a ball player Robinson had few peers. Mantle was the bigger name and more beloved. Clemente was more graceful and elegant. Musial a better hitter. Mays and Aaron were more complete players. But Frank Robinson was something that those others were not. He was a fierce warrior. Frank Robinson walked into that locker room and you could feel it. “Frank’s here”, yelled Paul Blair when Robinson came into the clubhouse. You knew who was in charge. You knew immediately who had command of that locker room. Frank was funny, sarcastic,acerbic, critical, uncensored, wise, and a true baseball sage. Earl Weaver, who confronted almost anyone, would never confront Frank. Weaver knew you don’t mess with a warrior. Frank Robinson’s statistics were among the greatest in baseball history , but mere numbers can’t define the leadership, authority, and influence this man had. No one else was Most Valuable player in both the National and American league. No one else was manager of the year in both leagues. Frank Robinson was the first black manager in major league baseball, and he homered in his first at bat as a player manager too. He was a lion of a man. A figure who led, influenced,empowered, and inspired his teammates to win. I remembered the game when he hit the longest home run at Memorial Stadium, the game where he hit TWO grand slams, the catch falling into the right field stands in New York. But no one moment defines Frank Robinson better than beating the tag at home plate in the winning run in game 6 of the 1971 World Series. It was a metaphor for the player he was. Frank Robinson was determined and aggressive and would not be denied. It was the last World Series Robinson would ever play in. Robinson played that game like he know he’d never have another chance. Frank Robinson was, like his predecessor who shared his last name, Jackie Robinson,strong willed, courageous, stubborn, and single minded. Like Jackie he broke down barriers, pushed convention, and demanded to be respected and heard. He didn’t just “come to play” he came to win. Talent was only part of it. Will was certainly most of it. There was a fire that burned within him and it spilled over onto the field… He brawled with Eddie Mathews on the field. He slid hard on the base paths, taking all he endured and suffered as a black man in baseball in the 50’s and early 60’s and exorcised his demons on the field of play. He challenged teammates. He insulted teammates. He made them laugh and he made them competitively angry. He was a critic, and advocate and activist for his teammates and the game of baseball to do better. He offended some…and uplifted many. Once, when he was Giants manager, he went to the mound and asked for the ball from the pitcher he was taking out of the game. The pitcher “flipped” it to him. Robinson grabbed the pitcher on the mound and said “don’t you EVER flip a ball to me again…or I’ll knock you on you ass right here on the mound in front of everyone.” Robinson demanded respect..and like Jackie, he didn’t much care if you liked him or not. You WOULD respect him. I can’t say Frank Robinson was an easy man. He led a hard life in his youth, never knew his father,lived in poverty…and shared injustice with his high school basketball teammates Bill Russell(yes, THE Bill Russell) Curt Flood, and Vada Pinson. When he came to Baltimore he couldn’t live in any white areas..but Brooks Robinson helped him find a home for Robinson’s family, and Frank never forgot Brooks’ kindness and help. When he lay dying Brooks called him and the two chatted with mutual respect and gratitude… Frank Robinson was a force on nature… He never stepped back. He never stepped away from a challenge. I saw his first at bat as an Oriole when he played in his first game in Spring Training. On the first pitch,he hit a ball over the clock at Miami Stadium about 500 feet away. The Orioles had arrived. “Frank was here”. His loss to baseball is profound. There were greater players..but not many. There weren’t many who had a greater impact on the game and his like will never be seen again. He was one of a kind. “Frank WAS…here”
  7. 27 points
    A lot of this you will know if you have been following along here at the Hangout and in other places, but hopefully this can put it out there for all to be able to reference. http://www.orioleshangout.com/2018/05/09/orioles-game-of-thrones-and-the-way-forward/ Hope you enjoy the piece.
  8. 26 points
    http://www.orioleshangout.com/2019/05/07/one-on-one-with-mike-elias/
  9. 25 points
    It's what I do and I am DAMN proud of it. I reported at 0630 hours this morning as driver/operator of Salisbury Fire Department E161. I consider myself a "wheel chock" because we only ran a few calls today. Most of the morning was spent checking every seat belt, light, and power saw on every rig we have. After lunch, we did nothing for the day. I leave at 1730 hours and head for Applebees for dinner. At exactly 1731 hours Station 16 was dispatched for a vehicle accident with injuries. 3 patients, power lines down. Needless to say I was a little bothered by that because I had spent my entire day waiting for a call like that. As a fire fighter you never want anybody to be hurt, but if they are, you want to be the one there helping them. Somebody had different plans for me, I met my girl at Applebees for a nice dinner before we retired home for the day. Sitting at the table next to me was a young family enjoying their dinner as well. Suddenly, mom grabs kid from the table and walks him to the back of the restaurant. I thought he did something bad was getting ready to get a lesson taught to him. Then he does the universal sign. He grabbed his throat and I did what I am trained to do. I first try to see if he can breath at all. Nope. I'm starting to really worry. The closest ambulance would be 5 minutes away. This kid doesn't have 5 minutes. I do the heimlich twice. I reassess. He still can't breath. This kid won't be alive to see the ambulance. I do it one more time and then out comes BIGGEST piece of mozzarella I've ever seen. Poor kid must have been starving. To think, if that accident would have been dispatched 1 minute sooner that kid may not be here now. I'm glad I missed that one. Mom was very appreciative which is a nice thing. She told me if she had been a little bit richer she would have bought my dinner. "Lady, I came here expecting to pay for my dinner. You owe me nothing. This is what I am trained for." I did, however, let Applebees pay for my dinner. I couldn't turn that down. Those Buffalo wings are gonna taste even better tomorrow.
  10. 24 points
    My personal top 34 prospects in the draft. Adley is obviously featured prominently and I’m sure a few of these guys will be around at 41 for the O’s second round pick. http://www.orioleshangout.com/2019/05/28/mlb-draft-primer-2019-the-first-round/
  11. 24 points
    http://www.orioleshangout.com/2018/07/30/orioles-top-50-prospects-ms2018/ My personal top 50, newly updated. Sorry for the delay, the trade deadline excitement (plus real world responsibilities) got in the way. All prospects acquired in the Manny Machado and Zach Britton deals are included and I've watched a some game video of each. Questions, comments, and criticism are all welcome. Here's the one with the prospects from the Gausman/Schoop deals. http://www.orioleshangout.com/2018/08/25/lukes-midseason-top-50-adding-the-prospects-from-the-gausman-schoop-deals/
  12. 23 points
    Today, Stan "the Fan" Charles and Press Box sponsored a luncheon with Dan Duquette at Padonia Station in Cockeysville. Yours truly was there, and I'll try to recap the event as best as possible. I didn't bring an audio recorder, so what I can give you is from my notes. Some of this you may have heard before. Dan mentioned that he used Harry Dalton's blueprint for the Orioles. Specifically, pitching, pitching, pitching and......pitching. He quoted former O's pitching coach, George Bamberger's definition of tendinitis, "the pitcher got smoked the last time out." Pitching is a "perishable commodity." Dan brought in some of the best pitching people available. Billy Castro, played for Bamberger; Rick Adair is very good with the veterans and developed Felix Hernandez in the minors. Earl Weaver was the "Godfather of Sabermetrics." He didn't want the other team's hitters letting him know if his pitcher was tired. Earl had a guy in the stands with a speed gun to keep track of his pitchers. Some teams are relying heavily on sabermetrics, while others, namely Atlanta's John Schuerholz (the best GM he has ever known) relies totally on his scouts. Dan likes to rely on both; it's a powerful combination. The difference in 2012 was the bullpen pitching. Buck had 5 or so pitchers he could go to in the bullpen with confidence. "We haven't traded any young pitching because we like them. I could have traded Dylan Bundy 15 times in the last week alone." Moving Tommy Hunter to the bullpen was another Bamberger type move. Back in the day pitchers got their start in the bullpen and worked their way to the bullpen. The whole bullpen is coming back. In the 1966 series, Davey had just faced Sandy Koufax and one of the batters after him asked him what kind of stuff Koufax had. Davey responded, "I don't know; I didn't see it. If I did, I know you couldn't hit it anyway." We have a core of guys up the middle. Wieters' RBI total has gone up the last three years and calls a fantastic game. AJ Hardy led all infielders in chances and is very dependable. Jones is a terrific 5 tool player. He does everything on offense, and everything on defense. Dan hopes one of the them will be the first Oriole in a while to have a 100 RBI season. They got lucky finding Miguel Gonzalez; "he stabilized the team." That was thanks to Fred Ferriera. He listed several players Fred found in his career including Vlad Guerrero. Tillman made adjustments in his pitching and did a great job. We still have Dylan Bundy and Kevin Gausman on the horizon. Chris Davis had a breakout year. During the famous Boston extra inning game, Chris Davis missed on his first two pitches, so Wieters went out to talk to him. Davis said he was having trouble with his two-seamer, and Wieters jokes he thought it was his four-seamer. Buck remembered Davis from the scouting reports when he was with Texas. He thinks Chris Davis can handle 1B in 2013. Dan also likes Betemit as a RH DH and Valencia as DH versus LHP. Valencia was in the running for rookie of the year in 2010. Alexi Casilla has better range than any other second baseman in the league and that includes that guy from NY (Cano). Machado really turned the interior defense from a liability to an asset. Next year, we'll have the core back and hope to resign Joe Saunders. The ballclub is pretty well set but they would like to add a middle of the order bat. One person asked him about Jones' continued lack of plate discipline and his role as clean-up hitter. Dan feels AJ is a number three hitter with Wieters as the #4 versus LHP. Dan feels that Buck will find a way to use both McLouth and Reimold in LF. Dan modeled his work in Boston from watching Buck with the Yankees. He credited Andy MacPhail with the Jones-Tillman trade for Bedard. Andy put a lot of the core elements in place. Dan called Andy to thank him and invite him to the playoffs, but Andy declined. Asked about LJ Hoes in 2013, Dan simply noted he's a local kid who did a great job in 2012. How about Adam LaRoche? Dan said he's Washington's isn't he. When the crowd told him he's a free agent, Dan joked that there's no such thing as a free agent. Everyone wants to see the team make a splash in December but he's wants a team to make a big splash in October. The best part? Well for me anyway, I was able to ask Dan a question about payroll. As you might expect, I noted how we should see at least another $10M from MASN depending on the negotiations with the Nationals, MLB is giving us an additional $25 million in 2014, and we just had a 20% increase in attendance. I continued, "the spin in the media is that Reynolds was in part a financial decision." Now if money is tight for 2013, when does he anticipate being able to spend more and maybe get payroll to $100 million? "So what's your question? When can we spend more money?" Yes, we have more money from operations and also from the industry coming in. He didn't see the benefit in discussing payroll in public. We need to be cost effective and one way to do that is through our farm system. Also, we have more than enough resources to have a competitive team year after year. On the way out, a man at the bar stopped me and thanked me for asking that question. He then said, "you had him, you should have gone for the jugular." I didn't want to do that, particularly in such a public meet and greet forum. The man, somewhat agitated by the team, insisted over and over that he would have hit him a lot harder, a lot harder. I was glad I went. You can't beat $15 for such an opportunity. Dan was very nice, very pleasant and approachable. I was able to get a picture with him, and have him sign a 2012 Camden Yards commemorative baseball. I told him I was impressed that before he decided to take the job, I read he went to pray about it. He mentioned that he went to the Shrine of St. Jude, close to the ballpark in Baltimore. We both know that St. Jude is the Catholic saint of lost causes. He smiled when I told him I think some of his prayers may have been answered. Finally, I told him I thought it was a bold move to bring up Machado, considering other GMs may have wanted to preserve his service time. "He was ready," Dan said. Note to the OH staff, if you could arrange for me to meet with Dan again, I'd be most happy to oblige.
  13. 22 points
    The other day in the DSL thread I asked if someone could put together a top prospects list as little seemed to be known about the players we currently have on our 2 DSL teams. We have a lot of older players for the league, players that have repeated the league 2 or 3 times, and other team's castaways, so its hard to see who Elias would really be invested in on our DSL teams. Luke-OH said putting a prospect list together would be difficult as there is little info on the DSL guys in our system, but he suggested to look at age, position, scouting reports (rare) etc, but not to hyper focus on stats. So I decided to comb through both rosters and use the following combination of factors to comprise a list of who to follow: age, position, bonuses, nationality, statistical performance, when/who signed them (this plays into the "late bloomer" category), etc. This list does not include any of our J2 signings for 2019, only players that were in the system already, whether signed by Duquette or Elias. This is a list of 25 players who have peaked my interest enough to track. I don't know if these are prospects (as I couldn't find a lot of scouting reports), but they seem to all have a reason to follow them that separates them from our collection of other teams throw-aways and the older holdovers (20+ year olds) in our system. Enjoy and I hope its helpful as we are all a little more excited to track our international signs now. Jorge Morla - RHP - Was an Elias June sign, although playing this season at age 19. 6’3’’ 185, so good size. Just added to the DSL2 team. Struck out 2 in first inning of work on Tuesday. Maybe a late bloomer? Kevin Infante - CF - Turns 19 on July 14th, but is interesting as he is a signee out of Cuba. Signed for $175,000. Batting .320 with a .792 OPS. Stealing some bases, plays an elite position. I wonder if he will get ABs in the GCL this season. Ricardo Castro - CF - 2nd season in the DSL and playing the whole season at age 19. SIgned out of Venezuela. Batting .300 with a .748 OPS, improved from his 2018 season. Thought it was interesting as a he was a Duquette sign out of Venezuela, and I didn’t see a lot of people in our system from Venezuela signed during the Duquette era. Another centerfielder. Luis Sena - 2B - 17 year old shortstop signed out of the Dominican. Batting .288 with a .721 OPS. An Elias June sign as well Joel Benitez - RHP - Signed in April, has pitched well so far with a K per inning and a 2.55 era. Is playing this season at age 18. Late bloomer? 6’2’’ 175’’ Pablo Falconet - RHP - 2nd year in the DSL. Had a good season at age 17 and his having a better season at age 18. 1 walk allowed on the season, averaging a K per inning. Another candidate to get some GCL time this season? Interesting body. 6’2’’ 220 lbs Angel Gomez - CF - Duquette signed in August of 2018, but this is his first stint in the DSL. Just turned 18 in June. 371 OBP, a little speed. Playing every day for DSL1. Harif Frias - RHP - Elias signed in April. Not putting up very good numbers with a 7.20 ERA, but he’s 6’4’’ 163. In the 4 games he’s pitched in he’s only given up hits in 1 of them, and he struck out the side in one inning of work in his 3rd outing. Jesus Chavez - LHP - 17 year old LHP signed May 31st, getting starts and putting up solid numbers. About a K per inning. 2.63 ERA. Needs to get the walks down a little. Eduard Monroy - LHP -Another May 31st 17 year old lefty, but struggling so far. Small in stature, 5’11’’ 160. Signed out of Venezuela, just added to DSL1, so only pitched in 2 games so far. No photo Jairo Vasquez - RHP - 17 year old Dominican sign. Recently added to DSL1. One inning of work, 2 K’s, 1 hit, 4 walks, 2 HBP, 7 Earned Runs. One of the younger players, so maybe he’s an all heat, no control guy. 6’1’’ 160. Yorkislandy Alvarez - IF - He’s playing this season at age 20, but Elias signed him out of Cuba in May. He’s getting innings all over the infield. He’s got 15 walks to his 11 K’s, but he’s only hitting .214. Not sure about his story from Cuba to the Orioles, but don’t Cubans have to go through a waiting period when they defect? Possibly rusty and could move quickly once he gets going? Stiven Acevado - OF - From what I could derive, this was our most high profile sign from the 2018 money. Turns 17 in August. Hitting well, getting innings every day. 6’4’’ 185. I’m most excited about this player out of all the DSL guys. Anyelo Reyes - 3B - 17 year old, bats lefty, Struggling a bit but getting innings in the field. Only 1 BB, so needs to learn some patience. Seems versatile. 6’1’’ 170. Elias sign. J’rudjeanon Isenia - CF - Kid from Curacao. I think he was actually signed when Brian Graham was interim GM back in October. Signed as a 16 year old for $125,000, playing his first season as a 17 year old. Just recently added to DSL2. Only had 3 ABs. Damian Valdez - OF - Signed by Duquette for $200,000 in 2018. 17 year old Lefty 6’2’’ has been getting every day innings although he hasn’t produced much. Moises Ramirez - SS - $225,000 sign by Duquette last year as well. Getting every day AB’s. Producing more than Valdez, but only batting .213. OPS of .664 isn’t bad for a 17 year old though. Hector Lopez - RHP - 17 year old from Panama. Great numbers in 6 starts. 0.74 ERA. 6’1’’ 190. I wonder if he is named after the Panamanian MLB player that had some good seasons back in the day for the Yankees. In the 1950’s-60’s. Juan De Los Santos - RHP - Domincan, signed in March, just turned 17 at the end of May. Getting starts, putting up K’s . 6’2’’ 190 Isaac Bellony - CF - Born in the Virgin Islands, he was signed for $220,000 by Duquette in August of 2018. Switch hitter, 6’1’’ 180. Struggling a bit playing the season at age 17, but getting every day at bats. Raily Nunez - SS - Signed in May. Turned 17 on July 1st. Left handed hitter. Added to the DSL1 on his birthday. Has played in 4 games. No Photo Michael Mantecon - C - 17 year old Cuban signed in March. The only Catcher on this list. 5’10’’ 180. Struggling a bit, but getting AB’s. 54% caught stealing rate so far. Started two games at 2B too. Kelvin Laroche - Duquette signed him as a 19 year old last summer and he will turn 20 at the end of July, but his WHIP is under 1.00. Not K’ing a lot of folks, but apparently has a clean delivery and some poise. He will have to move fast to keep any semblance of a prospect, but he could be another late bloomer. Only 5’11’’ 170. Gilberto Machado - SS - Getting AB’s but struggling. Another Duquette sign out of Venezuela, but just now getting his first taste of pro ball. Will play the whole season at age 18. Supposed to have a + glove. Carlos Del Rosario - RHP - Just turned 20, but is 6’5’’ 225 and is putting up big K and BB numbers. Signed in August of 2018, another hopeful late bloomer.
  14. 22 points
    Over the years I've written three large pieces on the Orioles management or mismanagement of this organization. Although they made decent choices with Andy MacPhail and Dan Duquette, the issue at hand was that the Orioles still were run the same way from the top. The one constant in all of this was Peter Angelos who always had the final say in major baseball operations moves. Armed with knowledge that the owner could be influenced, factions developed which caused rifs throughout the organization. I've been covering the Orioles since 1996 and never have I felt like the entire organization was going in the same direction. Player development never seemed to be on the same sheet of music with other departments and sometimes not even within itself. Sometimes amateur scouting would say something about a draftee and then he would show up and the player development people would be left wondering what they actually saw. More importantly though, international scouting was always done in a vacuum and on a low budget, outside of the first few Duquette years where he was allowed to go out and get Wei-Yin Chen and Wada. So the announcement today of Mike Elias as the new VP of Baseball Operations (GM) by John and Lou Angelos is a huge indicator that things going forward are going to be different. We've heard whispers that their father was no longer involved in baseball decisions due to his health, and today's press conference clearly showed John and Lou as the new ownership who conducted the hiring process and made the final decision to hire Elias. Elias is clearly a smart guy who from all indications is a transparent operator who will surround himself with quality baseball people. He talked about the importance of everyone being on the same page and how scouting and development must go hand and hand. He discussed how the money will now go into building this infrastructure first, and that will lead to building "an elite talent pipeline" from the Dominican academies to the major leagues. Looking around the press conference today, I saw several members from the previous regime including Brain Graham, Dean Albany, Tripp Norton, Calvin Maduro and Kent Qualls. Brady Anderson was not in attendance though it appears by the answer Lou Angelos made during the press conference that he and other executives will be used by Elias "during the transition". Make no mistake though, Elias is the new sheriff in town and I'd imagine he will get the opportunity to decide whether Brady provides value to him and the organization. No matter how you look at this situation, this is a new era in the Baltimore Orioles franchise. A young, extremely smart and confident GM who has been part of two successful organizations including a major rebuild is now here in Baltimore and is in full control over baseball operations. It's an exciting time to be an Orioles fan once again! Now the fans need to understand this is a process and it's not going to be a quick turn around, but as long as Elias is transparent, I think the fans will embrace this change because now they know the losing is part of an overall process to fix an organization that was in need of major change from the ownership on down. Let's give some credit here to John and Lou Angelos. They took their time and although they still appear a little reluctant to be more open to the press about ownership thoughts and ideas, the hiring of Elias signals they are all in on this change.
  15. 22 points
    New article up this morning, in which I list my personal 11 favorite draft prospects with notes and video as well as discuss briefly strategy and players likely to be available at the spot. http://www.orioleshangout.com/2018/05/23/orioles-draft-primer-the-first-round/ This thread may get moved to the Amateur Draft sub-forum eventually, but I wanted to put it here first for exposure and discussion. Edit: the second installment http://www.orioleshangout.com/2018/05/28/orioles-draft-primer-supplemental-1st-rd-and-preference-list/
  16. 22 points
    Dear Mr. Bader, In the interest of opening a fair and honest dialogue, I want to first thank you for coming forward and presenting what you had to know would be a difficult and ill-received position on this board. I personally found your response to be sincere from your position and appreciate your honesty and willingness to openly discuss many of the concerns held by those of us who love this board. Love this board....I honestly think we should start there in our conversation if that is alright with you, because we do love this board and with that comes an inherent desire to protect it and to protect Tony. As I am sure you realize, Mr. Bader, he has done something for each of us that we will never be able to repay. He has given us a voice, a haven, a commonality that is difficult to come by and all of us owe him so very much for his dedication and commitment. That is not intended in any way to short you either; you work for an organization that despite our vocal and often antagonistic outcry, many of our dreams since childhood have been to work with, in or around Major League Baseball and more importantly, the Baltimore Orioles. You see, Mr. Bader, we love this board because we love the Orioles. How can you send a response that is so entirely disconnected from this fact - We love the Baltimore Orioles. We are the fans that are there when more than half of the stadium is empty; we are the fans that subscribe to the channels that let us see the team we love as often as we are able. We can't pitch or hit; we can't run the bases, we can't even call down and tell someone to get up in the pen. We can't do any of that, Mr. Bader, but we do love and we do care and we want to know that our love for the team you represent is not unrequited. Come on, Mr. Bader, sir, we feel every single loss and it hurts so much more than any victory other than a championship ever could, unless of course we beat the Yankees, because I hate them. I mean that, I hate them for no other reason than I am so proud to say that I am a Baltimore Oriole fan. I grew up in Korea, Mr. Bader after being born in Taiwan to two of the most wonderful parents in the world. My father was my baseball coach and we were always the Orioles, always and I was #5 and played third base until I though #8 would be so much better and I could serve the team better as a shortstop. My father and I would stay up well into the night or wake up early in the morning to eat popcorn and listen to the O's. I loved my family first, Mr. Bader, but I loved the Orioles second and I have never stopped. EVER. Now you say you have given the Hangout $50,000 and you need to re-evaluate the Orioles position over a product that they do not directly control, and I say I left $50,000 spent on the Baltimore Orioles in my rear view mirror a decade and a half ago, Greg. Let's be frank if we can, that is really about as poor an offer of explanation as can be given by a franchise that spends $250,000 a year on a player that makes fewer appearances in an Orioles game than this community does at Camden Yards. I am sorry and you by no means have to answer to me, but that is honestly quite aggrivating from my position. I live in Kansas City, Greg, a town that love's their football and gives up on baseball before the All-Star game. I have seen the Orioles play every single time they have been in Kansas City since I moved here; that was immediately following my tour of duty in Iraq in the Gulf War to give you a point of reference. No lies, sir, every single Orioles game; Cal Ripken signed a ball for my daughter and asked her if she wanted to play catch. That is her favorite story in the world; she is an 18 year old college student now at Kansas State. She loves the Orioles but I digress. This site, Greg is my most reliable avenue for Orioles information; it is my connection to the team you represent and more importantly I and many others choose it because you don't have any direct control over it. It is a bastion of passion, honesty, yes stupidity too, but is relatively unfiltered love of the Orioles. You have given $50,000 which I am sure is appreciated, you have said that you don't want the site to go away which is honorable, but do you see that we all feel like one of the things we love most in our lives is "re-evaluating" it's relationship with US! We have stood by the losing, we have stood by faithfully and waited year after year for the Orioles to be the team we all fell in love with 20 years ago and now you want to re-evaluated your relationship with us, heck you have given us some money so we can ramble. You really want us to stay friends. My girlfriend in 10th grade didn't buy this, Greg and I can tell you I am not buying it now. I love the Baltimore Orioles and I have given you so much more of my time, my heart, my money than $50,000 can come close to equalling. I raised a family of four girls that love the Orioles as much and someday hopefully more than I do. I understand that there are other issues I may not know and you should not be solely responsible for any loss of this site, Mr. Bader, but your post came across as a slap in the face and not to Tony but to me, to my vision of the Orioles and my childish belief that I and others like me who want nothing more than to talk abotu the Orioles every day of our lives were appreciated. Mr. Bader, I have said a lot, a lot of rambling, a lot of pure hog-wersh as my Mother would say, but I feel like you let me down today, sir. I feel like you weren't there and didn't realize that I have always been there whenever possible for your team. Do you at least understand how I feel, Mr. Bader? Sincerely, John Baltimore Orioles fan since birth - October 8, 1966 Wally Bunker threw a 6 hit complete game to shut out the Los Angeles Dodgers; Paul Blair hit a solo homerun in the 5th innning. I apologize for any gramatical errors; it is late and I am an idiot to boot!
  17. 21 points
    This is advanced OH posting. It usually takes thousands of posts and dozens of Fangraphs articles read to get to this level of cynicism. You're this site's number one prospect, basically. Granted, not everyone ends up a Can of Corn. You could be a Moose Milligan, showing those flashes of brilliance but then posting something human that isn't the most depressing thing you've ever read in your entire life. You could be a total bust like Frobby, who is still a complete person despite watching the Orioles for like 40 years. That said, I have a lot of faith that if you work at it, you'll have a long career of making Matt Riley and Omar Daal references. Even at your floor you should be able to reference the time Jack Cust fell down in at least one post per year.
  18. 21 points
    Personal source: MacPhail officially out ***EDIT: Any mods care to change the name of the thread to what it should say 'Source: MacPhail Out as President of Baseball Operations'... ***
  19. 20 points
    Like the previous years, this will be the thread where we will keep the draft picks and follow them through signing. Post any signings in this thread, or in the forum, and I'll keep this post updated. Thanks. Player will become bold when he signs. 1. - (1) Adley Rutschman - C - (JR) Oregon State - Stats 2. - (42) Gunnar Henderson - SS (HS) John T. Morgan Academy (AL) - Stats 2A - (71) Kyle Stowers - CF/RF - (JR) Stanford - Stats 3. - (79) Zach Watson - CF - (JR) LSU - Stats 4. - (108) Joseph (Joey) Ortiz - SS - (JR) New Mexico State - Stats 5. - (138) Darell Hernaiz -SS - Americas High School (TX) - Stats 6. - (168) Maverick Handley - C - (JR) Stanford - Stats 7. - (198) Johnny Rizer - CF - (SR) TCU - Stats 8. - (228) Griffin McLarty - RHS - (JR) College of Charleston (SC) - Stats 9. - (258) Connor Gillispie - RHS - (JR) Virginia Commonwealth University - Stats 10. - (288) Jordan Cannon - C - (SR) Sam Houston St University (TX) - Stats 11. - (318) Andrew Daschbach - 1B/3B - (JR) Stanford - Stats Overslot $125,000 ($250,000 total) 12. - (348) Kade Strowd - RHP - (JR) West Virginia - Stats 13. - (378) Dan Hammer - RHP (JR) University of Pittsburgh - Stats Overslot $25,000 ($150,000) 14. - (408) Mason Janvrin - CF - (JR) University of Central Missouri - Stats 15. - (438) Kyle Martin - RHP - (JR) Fordham University - Stats 16. - (468) Shelton Perkins - RHP - James Madison University (VA) - Stats 17. - (498) Morgan McSweeney - RHP - (JR) Wake Forest - Stats 18. - (528) Malachi Emond - RHP - University of New Mexico - Stats 19. - (558) Jensen Elliott - RHP - Oklahoma State - Stats 20. - (588) Clayton McGinness - RHP - Wichita State (KS) - Stats 21. - (618) Toby Welk - IF - Penn State Berks - Stats 22. - (648) Jake Lyons - RHP - Oklahoma State - Stats 23. - (678) Shayne Fontana - CF - Lynn University (FL) - Stats 24. - (708) Andrew Martinez - IF - UC Santa Barbara - Stats 25. - (738) Garrett Farmer - RHP - Jacksonville State (AL) - Stats 26. - (768) Nick Roth - RHS - Randolph-Macon College (VA) - Stats 27. - (798) Dillon McCollough - LHP - Eckerd College (FL) - Stats 28. - (828) Jonathan Pendergast - RHP - Pepperdine University (CA) - Stats 29. - (858) Houston Roth - RHP - Ole Miss (University of Mississippi) - Stats Overslot $25,000 ($150,000) 30. - (888) Dalton Stambaugh - LHP - Morehead State (KY) - Stats 31. - (918) Jake Prizina - LHP - Seattle University (WA) - Stats 32. - (948) Harris Yett - C - University of North Carolina, Charlotte - Stats 33. - (978) Craig Lewis - CF - Seton Hill University (PA) - Stats 34. - (1008) Zachary Arnold - SS - Great Oak HS (CA) 35. - (1038) Justin Miknis - C - Dubois Central Christian HS (PA) 36. - (1068) Trevor Kehe - CF - Colorado School of Mines - Stats 37. - (1098) Colby Thomas - RF - Valdosta HS (GA) 38. - (1128) Ben Pedersen - RHP - Marshall HS (Duluth, MN) 39. - (1158) Christian Fagnant - C - East Granby HS (CT) 40. - (1188) Bobby Zmarzlak - CF - Westhill HS (CT) 2019-20 International Signings 2018 Draft Tracker 2017 Draft Tracker 2016 Draft Tracker 2015 Draft Tracker 2014 Draft Tracker 2013 Draft Tracker 2012 Draft Tracker 2011 Draft Tracker 2010 Draft Tracker 2009 Draft Tracker Player Slot Spent Savings Pick# 1. Adley Rutschman $8,415,300 $8,100,000 $315,000 1 2. Gunnar Henderson $1,771,100 $2,300,000 -$529,800 42 2A .Kyle Stowers $ 884,200 $884,200 0 72 3. Zach Watson $ 780,400 $780,400 0 79 4. Joseph Ortiz $ 538,200 $450,000 $882004 108 5. Darell Hernaiz $ 402,000 $400.000 $2000 138 6. Maverick Handley $ 301,600 $250,000 $51,600 168 7. Johnny Rizer $ 235,100 $15,000 $220,100 198 8. Griffin McLarty $ 186,300 $170,000 $16300 228 9. Connor Gillispie $ 159,200 $125,000 $34200 258 10. Jordan Cannon $ 147,900 $5,000. $142,900 288 Savings $ 345,300 -$125,000 Overslot Remaining $170,300 Slot Values $13,821,300 - Orioles Slot Values 105% $14,512,365 Approximate potential overslot
  20. 19 points
    This is a very good sign. Just don't fail the physical.
  21. 19 points
    One thing that I am reminded of when spending time on other team boards as I have during this Machado trade speculation,...is that.this board is the best baseball fan discussion board out there, by far, and so thank you Tony, weams, all the mods..and all you smart baseball diehard fans for making this board a pleasure in my life.
  22. 19 points
    Just returned from Sarasota. A few random thoughts in no particular order. - Love our stadium. Also went to the Rays' home in Port Charlotte. Have been to other stadiums in previous years. I do believe we have the best Spring home. - I'm really impressed with our catcher options. Everyone is talking about Joseph and Sisco, but Wynns is the real deal on defense and seems to have a pretty good clue at the plate. And don't sleep on Susac...dude can play. I do believe I would start Sisco in Norfolk, at least until June 1 for service clock purposes. I would opt for Joseph/Wynns to start the year. Not worried about Wynns' clock since he is already 27. - Our young outfielders are quite promising. Mullins does something exciting every game. He needs another year in the high minors, but he is close. Will be our best defensive outfielder and second place won't be close. Santander looks really, really good. He deserves to make the big team not as just a Rule 5 guys, but as one of our five best. He is that good now. I'm intrigued by Stewart. Cool story. Looks different than all the other players. Hard to describe. I predict he will be our minor league player of the year. Hays is absolutely gonna be a stud. I think he is ready now, but these little injuries are a nuisance. Probably for the best. I'd rather bring him up after June 1. - Speaking of OF, Adam is dialed in. Spraying lasers all over the field. Must be a contract year! And Mancini may have the quickest bat on the team. He is a professional hitter. Saw him going after first pitches and driving them with authority to opposite field. Not sure if that was a coincidence or if he was working on something. I expect him to prove last year was not an anomaly. - I'm a Joey fan, but not sure what to do with him, Gentry and Presley. They are kind of the same player. I like that Gentry can bunt really well. That's something we need to strengthen as a team. - Like the rest of the Hangout, I'm concerned about Trumbo. The acquisitions of Valencia and Alvarez raise an eyebrow. But those guys can both hit opposite pitchers. I am quickly warming up to the idea of them as a DH platoon. I think we could have a .900+ OPS from them, but would require two roster spots. Can't see that happening if Trumbo is on the roster. I hate it because I think Trumbo is a cool dude and has been a good Oriole. - Was in favor of trading Manny, but seeing him play in person reminds me of how much better he is than everybody else on the field. With all those young cheap hitters coming up, we can afford to give him and Schoop the big contracts. Offer him 10/300 with incentives. Go as high as 10/330 if needed. Don't let him get out of town. - I'm rooting hard for Mountcastle, but 3B is not working. Even the warm up throws were going over the first baseman's head. Every play is an adventure. I know we have been spoiled by Manny, but it's time to try 1B or LF. But, to his credit, this kid can absolutely rake. - Beckham will be fine at 3B. - I love watching Manny throw. Arguably best infield arm (combo of strength, quickness, accuracy) in MLB, but I think he is playing a step too deep. Saw a runner beat his throw even though he snagged it clean, charged and made a great throw. One step closer to the batter and he gets him. - Our pitching staff is a tire fire. I don't see any of our Rule 5-ers sticking this year. They're just not close enough. - Many of the guys I saw seemed to have lower velocity than expected. Wright was hanging out around 89-91. Brach and Givens were in the low 90's. I thought maybe the gun was off, but Blake Snell was sitting 95-97. - Moved behind home plate at the end the games. Really enjoyed watching Tanner Scott pitch. Brings it! Had a good inning. Some type of off speed pitch (slider I think...89-ish) was just effective enough to make us wonder if it was coming. Fastball was coming in at 97. He could be a nice replacement for Britton in a year. - Yacabonis and Teague (no clue where he came from) looked good in very limited action. Donnie Hart throws slow, but was effective. Good placement and kept batters off balance. Not much else impressed. Every no-name on the other teams seemed more impressive than our guys. - Not sure what to make of the utility competition. Sardinas, Vielma and Tejada seem to be getting equal time...meh. - Didn't get to see Tilly, but I have real doubts about him locking down a starter role. I really think we can compete if, and only if, we get both Lynn (3/33?) and Cobb (3/39?). Would like to see our rotation turn from a weakness to a strength for $24M...within the boundary of last year's payroll. Lots of money coming off next year and no concern about blocking prospects for at least two years. I have zero hope this will actually happen. That's it. Just one man's thoughts. Would enjoy reading your reactions.
  23. 19 points
    They're still in on Cobb and Lynn. (I still don't see Cobb..but a good source said don't be surprised if they can get him).The longer it goes, the better the chances of landing one or the other. Manny is locked in. Mancini looks great again and is bigger. Really working on his OF defense.O's love Mountcastle but not for this year. Don't rule out Hunter Harvey before July. Beckham is energized at 3rd base and is excited about playing there.Austin Hays will likely NOT start the season with Baltimore. Rasmus probably starts in RF. Trumbo is fit and on a mission. Davis looks lost again.Bundy hasn't thrown a good breaking pitch yet.Hes been battered, but may be trying some stuff and isn't sharp yet. Gausman won't miss a start, and is not hurting from the collision.Orioles brass loves Austin Wynns can hot and plays solid defense......they love Cisco too. Joseph is still their best game caller and framer. He's all business.Adam told MLB Channel today he won't talk to them if they talk contract.O's will keep Santander on the roster for about 60 days and see what he brings. I heard O's tried to sign Ohtani(Angels) out of HS but were turned down. Britton is close to running...has no limp and feels great...still probably won't return before late June at the earliest. Brach AND Givens will close.Givens one of the most coveted players in trade talks. Thats all for now.
  24. 19 points
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  26. 19 points
    Take it for what its worth. Just got word from my guy that Tejada has been dealt to the Astros. I will have more info soon.
  27. 18 points
    https://m.washingtontimes.com/news/2019/jul/16/orioles-rebuild-doomed-long-angelos-owns-team/?fbclid=IwAR2wFF7pzZhjbrllBsqotCivr1tqLncT91saLdxFEDY5HTkZWWO1ghhTUyE Here is my response: Peter Angelos is no longer making any decision on the Baltimore Orioles. You make several valid points on the city, and I too have heard fan's concerns, but you glossed over the arrival of Mike Elias and the fact that the sons have given him the control to run the organization as never before under an Angelos-led organization.. They are in the international prospect scene like never before, hiring known and popular Latin american scout Kobi Perez to lead that effort. The hiring of Sig Mejdal has keyed the Orioles resurgence in using analytics to affect decisions on and off the field and the Orioles farm system will end up close to a top ten system by the end of the year in many publications. So yes, things are very bleak right now on the field and yes the "sins of the father" haunt this franchise a bit, but John and Lou have done nothing to suggest they will run the team like their father and they are now in charge of the franchise. Attendance is down across baseball so it's unfair to point out the falling attendance on a team that has been the worse team in baseball for the last two years. The Nationals are down 3,300 fans from 2018 and they are contending and in first place for a wild card spot. It appears you've taken the time to kick a team and city while it's down while focusing on it's past, not it's future that now looks much brighter thanks to the arrival of Mike Elias.
  28. 18 points
    My thoughts on the five players acquired for Manny Machado including their ceilings, most likely, and floors. http://www.orioleshangout.com/2018/07/18/machado-traded-to-dodgers-for-five-prospects/
  29. 18 points
    Sometime you just don't know what to say or write. This is certainly one of those times. How do you make sense of someone like Mike Flanagan taking his own life? WBAL's Gerry Sandusky broke the story and then said, "Police did not immediately identify the cause of death, but sources confirmed that Flanagan took his own life "despondent over what he considered a false perception from a community he loved of his role in the team's prolonged failure." I'm not doubting the reporting or the source, but I'm not sure we can know for sure why Flanagan did what he did. It may have been several things. Unless he left a note or told someone why before he did it, no one will really know. I do know he had some other issues going on so I don't think it was all over the Orioles failures or his role or perception of the baseball community. But, I also don't think we will ever know for sure. It's sad regardless and I'm sure there's about 1,000,000 people who would have liked to have been on that walk with him to convince him otherwise. The saddest part in these kinds of situation is the nice things people say about you afterwards. If only the person could have heard these things before, maybe they would have had second thoughts. Flanny obviously got to a point where he didn't realize what he meant to so many people. Unfortunately, I think a lot of us do that in our own lives. We forget or don't say I love you, or I care about you, or I appreciate your friendship. It's only after they are gone that it hits you sometimes. I was lucky enough to have a few dinners over the years with Flanagan. He was always fun to talk to about the past, but the one thing that always came across was how much he loved the Baltimore Orioles organization. He wanted nothing more than to see the Orioles become winners again and I know it pained him to see the Orioles in such disrepair. I think he appreciated me for running Orioles Hangout and I think he knew we shared that common desire to see the Orioles become better. In the end I hope his life will not be defined by his death, but at the same time, I hope perhaps this ultimate act will somehow, someway encourage the Orioles organization to make some real change. A change that could bring the organization back to the ways that made Flanny fall in love with it in the first place. I know there's a ballgame going on up in the heavens tonight. Flanny will take the mound to the roar of the crowd. He'll look in for the sign and see Elrod Hendricks smile through his mask before putting down one finger for the heater. Mark Belanger will lean forward on the balls of his feet as Flanagan begins his windup. Cal Ripken Sr. will move to the top of the steps of the dugout to get a better look as Flanagan releases his fastball. As Flanny releases the ball he'll realize it was his heater of his youth, and as Wild Bill Hagy looks on with his feet propped up on his beer cooler in section 34, the ball will find the mitt after it passes the black of the plate. The umpire will yell, "Strike One," and 54,000 Orioles fans will jump to their feet and applaud. Flanny will look around and with a smile on his face, he'll know he's where he was supposed to be. Rest in Peace Mike Flanagan. We will always remember you. http://orioleshangout.com/blog/tonys-take/323/flanagans-death-is-painful-but-perhaps-hes-at-peace-now
  30. 17 points
    http://www.orioleshangout.com/2019/05/03/orioles-prospect-hot-sheet-april/ Article is up, feel free to promote any strong April performances I may have snubbed, there were a lot to choose from. Mason McCoy, Zach Pop, Ryan Mountcastle, Gray Fenter, Tyler Joyner are among the guys who didn't quite make it.
  31. 17 points
    They don't seem to get the message. The Royals are out playing the Os this year....again. 5-8 is not acceptable. We are 2.5 games behind for the #1 pick next year. Why in the heck isn't Davis playing every day, particularly against lefties? Why is Hyde pulling pitchers after giving up five or six bombs in a game? Mancini needs to take a seat after one or two ABs. While we're at it, why isn't Davis playing 3B? These guys need to get with it. Our perfect season is already slipping away, and it's only April.
  32. 17 points
    Funny, I see that trade as pretty lopsided in our favor. Schoop’s a bit better than Villar, but it’s not drastic and Villar is under control for an extra year. Meanwhile, we got two prospects to go along with it: one pitcher who was having pretty good success in AA and has looked good in three AAA starts with us, and an interesting 18 year old SS who’s already playing pretty well in short season A ball. Seems like a great trade to me.
  33. 17 points
    I do not post many threads and after this I may not post any more. I am a life long fan. I bleed orange and black like so many others here. I think DD gets more grief than deserved here, but there is something that hit me yesterday amid everyone's frustration. We don't have a plan. In all of the years of following the O's. From the years where they were one of the best run franchises in all of sports, to the dark days where many considered the O's to be a laughingstock. I have been there and I have supported and I have hung on for the ride. But where we are right now simply does not make any sense to me and I don't understand why it is not a bigger deal here or in the national media. There is no plan. Unless the plan is for the world as we know it to end somewhere between now and the end of the 2018 season. I want to be fair. The Orioles have been subjected to some seriously bad, maybe historically bad luck. The Orioles should have traded Manny or Britton earlier. Sure, today that is obvious and many here advocated the same long ago. But the O's have been in the thick of it for all of DD's tenure and I don't really care if you think he inherited every bit of the success or literally manufactured every bit of it from a piece of wheat. They have been in it. Trading pieces, even this past year at the break was a risk and as late as the first week in September the O's were only a couple games out of the playoffs. Sure, if only they/we knew the bottom would fall out. Again, I don't care to really pick apart the seasons of not really adding pitching when the "window" was open or ripping the manager for not using the games best reliever in the heat of the moment. My question or observation is simply this. At the end of 2017 the Orioles finished last and there simply is no plan for what to do after that...and to be fair, the lack of a plan would have been the same if we had taken the Yankees spot and come within one game of going to the World Series. There may be no other organization in sports as bereft of a plan as the current Orioles are. I posted in the "What was communicated?" thread some observations that I repeat here: There were two ways to go after the ‘17 season. Rebuild totally (possibly partially) or go all in for pitching. Both directions had risk but potential rewards. Even Roch posted an article saying the same. There have been people here on both sides making their cases. No mater which side people were on, every person seems to understand that doing neither, staying in the middle, would be a disaster. I don't care where we place the blame. Really. You want to blame DD? Fine. Buck? Be my guest. Team leader AJ? Sure have at it. No organization in Sports has no plan. Some have bad plans. Some have good plans but poorly implement them. But responsibility for any organization falls first and foremost at the top. With Ownership. The Orioles in 2017 had one of the highest payrolls in baseball. Not top 5 to be fair, but the idea that the owner is cheap doesn't hold water. The Orioles spend money. But why? When? The fragmented structure of decision making is unquestionably one of the weakest in professional sports. Only the Orioles could go into an off season with the following set of facts: 1) GM on final year of contract 2) Manager on final year. 3) Best player on final year. 4) Best reliever on final year. 5) Team leader on final year. 6) Not willing to sign free agents. 7) Not willing to trade. 8) Three openings in rotation. Needing three starting pitchers, who would sign with the Orioles knowing the above? No one who wants anything more than a chance to reestablish themselves after a year. Who would want to join an organization where virtually EVERY important person is in the last year of his deal. Manny is clearly leaving when he can. That may not really be the fault of the organization as he may not want to be here. Britton literally said that his injury is not how he wanted to end his career here. But look around...WHY would anyone but us fans be here beyond 2018? The ONLY plan that I can take out of the above is that the owner believes that the MASN legal situation resolves itself and the team is sold to someone else during next year. I wouldn't consider it a good plan, but absent all available evidence, it would at least be a plan. But walking into this off season with the above 8 facts is not a plan. Sign your GM or fire him. Let him extend or replace the manager. Let whoever is in charge manage the roster to bring the best results to the BALTIMORE ORIOLES. I hate what the Marlins are doing, but at least it is a plan.
  34. 17 points
    1) Duquette doesn't understand how Gomes can go from 1mm last year to 5mm in Boston as a part time DH. "Those kind of economics don't work in Baltimore" 2) We will be active in the free agent market 3) Likes Casilla. Switch hitter, good arm, speed, good defender 4) on Trayvon - switch hitter, real good speed, power potential 5) on Reynolds, we turned down an 11mm option on him. We could bring him back, but if not, we have in house options 6) We have told clubs we are looking for a 1b, LF, or DH, and one that would preferably be a MOO bat 7) Really wants to see what Urrutia can do 8) When pressed on Greinke and Hamilton, he said that he wouldn't count us out of it, but the value for us is in the draft. Again reiterated that the economics in Baltimore don't work for us as big time spenders in FA 9) When asked about our rotation he seemed to say that our first four guys are Tillman, Chen, Hamel and Gonzalez. 10) Then we have Britton, and Steve Johnson "who other teams like" 11) We are going to look for more pitching because you can never have enough 12) on Gonzalez, outstanding control and two plus pitches. Pitched great again the Yankees in the playoffs 13) Tillman won 17 games last year between the minors and majors. Pitched like a TOR last year for us, said Duq 14) McLouth - real good last couple months for us and we want him back. Buck likes him. He would be a good compliment to Reimold 15) What it is like working for Angelos - Peter wants nothing more than to give the fans a good team to root for. He was engaged with the team. The 18 inning affair in Seattle had over 60k viewers at 4am when the game went over. Said he talked to Angelo's the next day to tell him he wanted to bring a pitcher up and Angelo's said he should have called him after the game was over as he stayed up to watch it himself. He was loving the fact of being in NY for the playoff games 16) Buck and Peter are old pros 17) When asked about Marlins trade, it's a real interesting trade. Backloaded a lot of contracts and it didn't work and they dismantled it. BJ's paid a fair price in the young players they gave up. They spent a lot of money, but they have put people on notice that they want to win. Duq thinks that the way they Marlins work is a viable way of winning in today's game 18). We know who we are in Baltimore and we know what we can support (financially) 19) Chris Davis had a breakout year. Apparently he is up for a Gibby (Gibbie) award for breakout hitter 20) Machado is up for a Gibby award for play of the year against TB (the spin play where he caught the guy off of 3rd) 21) We are not going to spend 175 mm to get into contention 22) We will get some more "Casilla and Robinson" type players in the coming weeks 23) Bundy came along in his development of his change-up last year. Doesn't know where he will start this year 24) Gausman has an excellent sinker, top notch change up and advanced control. Both (Bundy) have a chance to help our team next year 25) Viewership was up over 50% on our network (MASN)
  35. 17 points
    The Pythagorean record and the Gaussian Copula-Function: or, How I learned to stop worrying and love...the O's I don't post, basically ever. But I feel compelled to comment on a common debate around here. What does the Pythagorean record mean to the 2012 Orioles? I work with numbers. I would not say that I am good at statistics or math in general. I am not mathematically illiterate, but I am no PhD either. I may be completely wrong with this little spiel, and if I am, please tell me why so I may understand. But here it goes: 1. The Pythagorean expectation for a baseball team is the best easily accessible metric that baseball fans have available to them that allows them to accurately predict the future performance of a club most of the time. The Pythagorean expectation relies on a Weibull distribution for its mathematical derivation. This means that the 'proof' famously published by Professor Miller in 2006 makes the following assumption 'runs scored and runs allowed per game are statistically independent,' (stolen gladly from Wikipedia) 2. A common criticism of the record is that sometimes teams have 'pluck' or a 'great manager' who allows you to beat the statistical averages, thus the Pythagorean expectation is merely the hand-waving of nerds who don't understand 'real' baseball. I think this is a poor explanation. I'm a massive nerd who has loved baseball on the field, in the stands, and from my sofa since I was a young boy. I think that I understand real baseball. Don't dismiss the nerds. 3. However, the reverse applies as well: the hubris of mathematical 'proofs' is well documented. A rather apt comparison relates to the subprime mortgage crisis and what is commonly known as the Gaussian copula function. I'm not getting political here, so please read carefully. When the financiers were building the complicated mathematical equations and algorithms that allowed them to bundle up mortgages, repackage them and sell them later, one of the justifications that they used was based on a model built by a young man far removed from the buying and selling of homes. The 'Gaussian copula' was not a model or an equation that allowed one to predict the future, it was merely a good way to describe a relationship between disparate assets, like a bunch of houses in some part of the world. This was not the problem. The problem came when the limitations of the function were ignored by people who were so eager to believe the results that it seemed to spit out that they did not bother to learn what the function actually did. Many individuals took what they thought to be a concrete theory, and used it to create a value narrative that ended up being dramatically wrong. Some of these individuals probably did it out of pure greed, but I would posit that most thought they were just much cleverer than those old fashioned folks who did not use the fancy formula. But they were ignoring one of the great pieces of wisdom from the older generation: understanding half of something can be far worse than having the wisdom to admit that you do not understand it at all. 4. This brings me to my conclusion. The Orioles are outperforming their Pythagorean record by a significant margin. Luck is a factor. That is to be celebrated, not bemoaned. But, is there something more? Is the Weibull distribution a fair representation of how the game is played out? Could it be that Buck?s bullpen management means that scoring and allowing runs are more related than one would initially think? If certain poorer pitchers are only used in certain situations, then the mathematical foundations of the proof are themselves flawed. I'm not sure. But if I have time I'm going to find out. Ultimately, there are so many smart passionate people writing about the Orioles as fans of the team and baseball alike. I hope that: a. We recognize that the Pythagorean record of a team is fundamentally important b. It has its limitations c. Using it as a tool to close off debate and hiding behind the handwaving of math is boring. Break out the figures, learn some statistics, and let's figure out how to enjoy the game even more. Pythagoras, the man, is a bit of an apocryphal character in history. He is variously a mathematician, a religious leader, and a fictional combination of a few disparate characters. The mythology tells us that the Pythagorean neophytes were the akousmatikoi ("listeners"). This is absolutely essential; we need to listen to one another. But that is not enough. Just because some guy on SI told me that the Orioles were doomed to failure does not mean that I have to believe him. We should all aspire to be like the Pythagorean inner circle, the mathematikoi ("learners"). Listening without questioning does not get us anywhere. I have been out of the country for a very long time, but I get back in just a few weeks. I hope with all of my soul that I will witness my first meaningful Orioles game in fifteen years. It has been a joy to wake up every morning and read about win after win. It makes even my spreadsheets bearable. Tl;dr: The Pythagorean record of a team is important, but accepting it as the end of the debate on what makes a team win and lose is as foolish as the subprime crisis.
  36. 17 points
    However I dont seem to have one. Is the number higher? Man I was so excited. Now nothing.
  37. 17 points
  38. 17 points
  39. 17 points
    UPDATE: The Birds will use the song sporadically early on this season, mostly right before game time. If the response is good, they'll use it more often and in different spots of the game. If you're interested, we might be playing a pre-game show a few blocks away on Opening Day. The song will be available for download via iTunes on or about March 26th. CDs will soon follow. Most importantly, its up to the Orioles fans to make this song a success. Tell your friends, write to the O's, request the song on your favorite radio station. Whatever you can think of! Thanks for your continued support! Hello Orioles Hangout, Forgive me in advance for a little bit of self promotion. A few friends and I sat down over the course of early 2009 to write a song that we hoped would be considered the next in the Orioles Magic/Why Not? saga. Its unbridledly optimistic and passionate, written expressly for our 2009 birds. I hope the leap-of-faith positivity doesn't blind a few of you! For now, you can stream the song at a myspace page that we just haphazardly set up. Soon enough, after we work out a few kinks, you'll be able to download an mp3 of it, if that's something you'd enjoy. I'm sure we're not too far removed from a youtube clip either. Anyhow, the song is called "How 'Bout Dem O's" and you can listen to it here. Thanks, Chris p.s. Much love to the Boo Teixeira guys, who were seemingly sharing a conceptual brain wave with us.
  40. 17 points
    I'll try to keep up with this thread and provide you links to stories about the Orioles, particularly their roster moves. I hope you enjoy. ____________________________________________________ A couple links for Today - 12/28 The Orioles may have interest in Chris Coste of the Phillies. The Phillies seek a relief pitcher and a bat off the bench. The Phillies are looking to deal Coste during ST. Lone Star Ball notes that the Orioles and Rangers discussed Hank Blalock during the winter meetings. Rotoworld's latest notes on Gregg Zaun and Ivan Rodriguez. Scott Boras wants to get the Nats and O's involved in the Manny Ramirez bidding (cold) war. The New York Daily News thinks Mark Teixeira is a gentleman. A story out of Sarasota about the Orioles rejecting the city's ST offer. A Joe Jordan quote in a story regarding Red Sox scouting. Happy reading.
  41. 17 points
    So basically you wanted the Orioles to make an omelet without breaking any eggs. You wanted them to win a war without firing a bullet. You wanted them pass this herd of dromedary through the eye of a needle without the use of some sort of grinder. Oh yeah, got it - we'll get right on that. People wanted the Orioles to rebuild through a youth movement at the same time as sacrificing draft picks and making players like Tex the richest in the game - oh wait the offer we made Tex would have made him one of the richest players in the game. The Yankees made him the FOURTH richest player in the game. JTrea, if you honestly thing that if we would have offered even money to Tex he would have come here then you are suffering from something I can't help you with. We would have had to have given him A-Rod money. How many times do you have to read that Tex was never really interested in coming here for you to understand that he had NO intentions of singing here. How many times have we read someone say "we should give him a number and say 'take it or leave it.'?" Well, we essentially did that - he didn't take it and now all hell breaks loose. The something drastic is what we need to AVOID. Sammy Sosa was drastic. It was stupid and worked out worse then we ever thought it could have. If the Orioles come away with one, or maybe two, Japanese pitchers that will spark some interest if nothing else. If they extend Markakis and trade Roberts for interesting pieces that will help. But people for the longest time, FOREVER have wanted this. A FO that has a distinct plan that they are sticking to. How long have people been just out right whining about that for the last decade? Now we have it. MacPhail wants to build from within, focus on pitching and add pieces when the team is ready. Everyone was fine with that in November. Now we are all of the sudden "held hostage"? Spare me. This whole situation is like we asked AM if we looked fat in these pants, and he dared to be honest.
  42. 16 points
    On a positive note this is the first positive contribution Mark Trumbo has made to the club this year!
  43. 16 points
  44. 16 points
    He was born in segregated Little Rock Arkansas in 1937. Jim Crow laws didn't allow blacks and white to mingle almost anywhere. He was an aspiring baseball player, who never even knew a black man except for a man named Sonny, who oversaw his little league park where he played. That was the only black man he had ever met. He never played baseball with a black player...until things changed with the Little Rock Nine. The Little Rock Nine was a group of nine African American students enrolled in Little Rock Central High School in 1957, which was a seminal moment in the Civil Rights movement. This young man never really understood prejudice. His father was a decent and kind man,instilling respect and honor to his sons... and the young man and his brothers would eventually play against, but not with, black players. He left Little Rock to play pro baseball...the same year Little Rock became a center of racial tension and change.... His name was Brooks Calvert Robinson, and he never even knew a black man in baseball he would call a close friend. He was born in segregated Texas, moved to Oakland, California after his father abandoned the family, and he endured unbelievable racial hatred. He enrolled at McClymonds High School in Oakland, hoping to play pro basketball or baseball. His high school teammates were Bill Russell, who became an NBA legend,Curt Flood, who would eventually challenge the reserve clause in Major league baseball, and perennial All Star Vada Pinson. HIS name was Frank Robinson, and he went to the big leagues, becoming an instant star for the Cincinnati Reds, earning Rookie of the Year honors. In December 1965, Frank Robinson was traded to the Baltimore Orioles, and both men's lives would change forever. Brooks and Frank Robinson, the "Robinson Boys". Baltimore was mostly segregated in 1966, Frank's first year in Baltimore...but Brooks, remembering his father's tolerance and kindness, made his new teammate feel at home. Then he grew to understand what racial prejudice really was. "When Frank came to Baltimore", Brooks told me tonight, "I saw things I couldn't believe. He couldn't rent a decent apartment, he couldn't buy a house. So I put my name "Robinson" on a down payment for a house. They thought the "Robinson" was me. But it was for Frank. When the realtors found out it was for this new black player...well, lets say the deal magically fell through". I was angry for Frank. Angry for his pain. And for the first time in my life...I came to understand how bigotry caused pain and suffering for people...especially a family". Frank Robinson, thanks to Brooks' insistence and name got a modest home in Baltimore..and Frank Robinson, for the rest of his life grew to love and admire...the "other Robinson" . They led their teams to two world titles, and played in 5 World Series together. In the first inning of the first World Series the Orioles ever played in,Frank and Brooks Robinson hit back to back home runs...and their story became legend. They won that World Series over the Dodgers in a four game sweep. Brooks Robinson called Frank early last week. His old friend and teammate was dying of bone cancer. 'When I got on the phone with him, his voice was thin. I told him I was praying for him. I told him that I loved him. But I knew I would never speak to him again. Just as I said goodbye on the phone, I got choked up. I knew it was the final goodbye." Brooks and Frank Robinson were inexorably linked in baseball history...but their friendship was authentic and the two families were deeply close..until the end. "You can't really understand the hardships that people have in their lives unless you walk in their shoes", said Brooks to me Thursday night. "He led by example and he led his team in ways I didn't..and couldn't". "I knew he was the greatest player I ever played with", he said, "but more than that, he was one of the greatest men I ever knew." Brooks Robinson and Frank Robinson. The 'Robinson Boys" , couldn't have been different in personality or style. But baseball brought them together. They played the game as teammates and learned that great teammates and great friends brought out the best in each other. "I'll really miss Frank. He had a great life. He had a hard life. But he made the game batter, he made his team a champion, and he made my life so much better". I'm a better man for having known him," said Brooks. As I hung up the phone, I remembered a famous quote by humanitarian, Albert Schweitzer who put it this way: "In everyone's life, at some time, our inner fire goes out. It is then burst into flame by an encounter with another human being. We should all be thankful for those people who rekindle the inner spirit. Brooks and Frank. Their inner spirits will be intertwined for eternity.
  45. 16 points
    Hilariously predictable response. The guy doesn't have an international scouting team yet. He slung a few bucks for a young SS with upside. I see absolutely no problem here. This is not Duquette trading internat'l money for an aging SP. The Orioles have like $6 million in international money and absolutely no way of spending it all after missing on the big 3.
  46. 16 points
    I think the last great under-exploited inefficiency in baseball is figuring out exactly when Steve Pearce is going to get hot.
  47. 16 points
  48. 16 points
    How many more games like tonight are the folks that advocate the quitting / don't care stuff going to have to see like tonight before they realize that the logic behind their stance isn't sound? The game tonight was the following set up: A pitcher who was 26-6 lifetime against us against a rookie who has been struggling A game in September against the best home team in baseball that we'd lost to 10 straight times on the road A 90 minute rain delay to start A 3-0 lead for the Yanks in the first inning on a mammoth homer from ARod Awful cold, misty, nasty weather during the game A historic night for Jeter and the Yanks where our players had to endure an on field celebration The loss of two different players to injury during the game An awful umpire that couldn't call a consistent strike zone if his life depended on it How did this bunch of quitters respond? They made Pettitte throw 26 pitches in the 4th and 35 pitches in the 5th by taking a ton of close pitches. They came back in 4 straight innings. They turned a 3-0 and 4-1 deficit into a 10-4 lead. They had the last two rallies in the midst of a steady falling rain. The two veteran players that don't lead at all and are just mailing it in according to some our resident experts, Brian Roberts and Nick Markakis, were in the middle of all the rallies. Roberts now has 3 RBI, Nick has 2 RBI. Nick has 2 hits and a walk. Roberts has a hit, a walk, and a sac fly. In the last game in Boston these same "quitters" started the rally in the 9th inning against Papelbon even though we were down 7-4 and we have never hit him worth a darn. Markakis hit a shot off the wall and scored a run. We got the tying run to the plate before losing. Teams that don't care don't stage rallies against guys like Papelbon. They meekly go down. What I'm trying to make clear is that some of you pick and choose the things you pay attention to. You must or you would realize how silly it is to think that these guys don't care. They very clearly care. I've seen Nick, Luke, Ty, Mora, and several others get visibly upset in the last week when they didn't come through or something went wrong. I realize I'm spitting into the wind trying to convince anyone that doesn't already realize it that these guys are good professionals, but it just kills me to watch efforts like tonight happen and then some goombah post something about how we don't care two days later when we don't score one run in a game. It would have been the easiest thing in the world to meekly lay down in tonight's game so they could go home. These guys fought and did their best as they do pretty much all of the time IMO.
  49. 15 points
    Welcome to my rainbows 🌈and unicorns 🦄 thread that I am going to force upon you all for Every. Single. Game. The idea here is that there will obviously be enough threads voicing frustrations and talking about the losing, and I will be participating in those threads as well. However, I cannot do another season like last year where I'm focusing on the negative. I am committed to the process that Elias is enacting and seeing the tiny slivers of good things and/or funny things about this season of Orioles baseball. If you're here to tell me this is dumb or wrong or bad or that Davis should be released, surely there is a better use of your time on this earth. If you're here to say "sure, but they did these other things badly" (and I will surely agree with you), I kindly point you to any of the other threads, though I expect this will be mostly ignored. I do not do this to invalidate your own frustrations or despair about this season. I just want to point out the stuff our good good baseball sons have done on the field for each game. Because while I may stretch to find it, there will always be something. And yes: unless the mods find a problem with it, I will be creating a new thread for every single game, give or take extenuating life circumstances. Without further ado: Trey Mancini: 3-4, 2B, RBI. Likes to DH. Rio Ruiz: good play on a hot shot at 3B, got the O's on the board with a sneaky RBI single up the middle. Cedric Mullins: BB, 4.5 pitches/PA to lead the team. Joey Rickard: Excellent diving catch on a very shallow ball to RF. Richie Martin: Turned a couple of double plays smoothly, looked unfazed out there. Dwight Smith Jr.: Handled a number of deep fly balls to LF smoothly, looks like a natural OF. Hanser Alberto: Entered the game late and got a hit off Chapman. David Hess: Nice max effort stuff out of the 'pen, the only O's pitcher to post a positive WPA. Held Tanaka to 5 Ks, 3 of which were Davis, so they put the ball in play against him. Errors: 0 Hits: 8 to the Yankees 9, including 1 off Britton and 1 off Chapman. Weird play: Dropped pop-up by Jesus Sucre was turned into a DP against the Yankees who ran into some outs. Brandon Hyde: Smooth debut. PH Nunez for Davis against Chapman, a welcome sign that Davis will only be put in positions he is most likely to succeed. Yanked Cashner at the right time, I thought, while still getting about as much as you could from him. Got through what was a sure loss without warming up or using Givens, Bleier, or Castro. Got every batter into the game other than Pedro Severino. Gary Thorne: "Better his wife than mine!" I don't even remember what they were talking about. Mike Elias aviator game: Strong. See you for Game 2.
  50. 15 points
    We shot this back in November while just trying some things out and thought we'd go ahead and put this out. It's a little dated when it comes to the Elias discussion, but we then go into our main focus which is Orioles prospects. This was just a bare bones runs through so if it goes over well our hope is to do one of these a month next season starting with a spring training preview show in February. We broke this down into three episodes and covered the top ten pretty thoroughly and then went into the 11-30 guys a bit. Again, this was more of a give it a whirl and see how it comes out and I guess we think he came out well enough to share. We tried to have some fun with this and if you listen to Terry Ford it's hard not to have some fun. Let us know what you think. What would you like us to add in the future? We thought about adding some videos of the prospects we're talking about and perhaps some interviews with prospects/coaches like I've done in the past. Either way, let us know what you think, even it's to say how bad I was! haha. Thanks To Gregg Landry (Blue rock Productions) for producing this and of course to my co-host Terry Ford! Part one Part two Part three
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