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  1. The Rays starting pitching has the potential to be really good. Honeywell is a top prospect that is more than ready. One of these yeasr Archer i going to put it all together. Odorizzi has steadily improved. Snell seems like like he is figuring things out. They brought up Jacob Faria last year and he was impressive and they have Nate Eovaldi coming back from tommy john.
  2. Adam Jones Speaking out on Twitter.

    I don't understand what you are saying here. Granderson is four years older than Jones and is not nearly as good as Jones i today. Adam Jones also never had a year that was as good as Granderson was in 2011. Father time catches up with everyone and will catch up with Jones as well.
  3. outfield / 1B / S.Smith ? D.Ackley.

    I did a google search on mopaniac. See the comment section on both links. http://blog.thenewstribune.com/mariners/2014/03/01/game-capsule-mariners-5-angels-3-7-innings-rain/ http://bronxbaseballdaily.com/2016/02/dustin-ackley-excited-to-take-over-for-mark-teixeira-at-first-when-needed/
  4. outfield / 1B / S.Smith ? D.Ackley.

    Last year in an extreme hitters park at AAA in Salt Lake City, Ackley primarily played DH and his numbers were mediocre. Six homer, 3 SBs 761 OPS in 505 plate appearances.. Clearly no one is giving Ackley a MLB contract. All three of Mopanic's posts have been about signing Ackley.
  5. And the Orioles do not take risks if they do not have to. The White Sox parlayed signing Chris Sale, Adam Eaton and Jose Quintana to favorable contracts early in their career to get Yoan Moncada, Michael Kopech, Eloy Jimenez, Lucas Giollito, Dyland Cease, Reynoldo Lopez, Luis Alexander Basabe and Dane Dunning. I would say that worked out very well for them.
  6. Os requesting offers on Machado

    So you think Manny will have just as much value if he is traded during the season as before the season? I agree with your first sentence. Even if you trade Manny today you are not going to get full price for him but at least if he is traded before the season, the team has the draft pick as a bit of a fallback. However, besides the fact that the team would not have Manny for the full season if they acquire him at the trade deadline, they would be unable make a qualifying offer and if that team did not sign Machado, they do not even get the draft pick.
  7. Os requesting offers on Machado

    They are not good prospects. The Tigers don't have a strong farm system. According to the MILB.com list of the Tigers top 30 prospects, one the players they got from the Diamondback is the Tigers 15th best prospect, one is 25th and the other is not in the top 30. The point is the Orioles can get more for Machado now than they will be able to get at the trade deadline.
  8. Os requesting offers on Machado

    I guess it depends on what you consider decent. JD Martinez has been one of the best hitters in baseball for the last few years. Martinez was traded at the deadline last year as a two and a half month rental and the return was hardly anything.
  9. Lock Up Schoop?

    If the Orioles were proactive now is the time to either decide Schoop is a cornerstone and do everything possible to sign him to a long term contract or decide that either 2017 was a career year or that the Orioles are rebuilding and that Schoop value will never be higher and trade him. Based of the fact that the Orioles are never proactive, I assume they will doing nothing with Schoop until the year before he become a free agent. Regarding Hosmer, a lot of his value is tied to hitting the open market at a young age.
  10. Os requesting offers on Machado

    You live in a fantasy world. The Red Sox would be unlikely to trade Devers straight up for one year of Machado, let alone Devers, their top two prospects and a potential cheap starting pitcher.
  11. To recap, I made a post about how the Orioles receiving Ken Singleton and Mike Torrez in a trade from the Expos from practically nothing was one of the Orioles best trades. In describing Torrez I said after one good season with the Os he was part of the Reggie Jackson trade which I described as ill fated. OFFNY took offense to this because the centerpieces in the trade Jackson and Baylor became free agents after the 76 season. I pointed out that the trade was a couple months after the reserve clause was determined to be illegal and no one knew the impact it was going to have. The idea that it was a foregone conclusion that Baylor was going to leave the Orioles after the season seems very inaccurate. Baylor was apparently devastated when he was told about the trade. I was not critical of the Orioles but did point out that they could have signed Reggie to a long term contract when he was holding out if they offered then, what they offered after the season. At that time the Orioles did a lot more right that wrong. However, the Reggie trade did not work out for the Oriole in my opinion. OFFNY obviously has a different opinion. Moving on.
  12. I am not going to get into an argument about something from 40 years ago, but the trade was ill fated. You are acting like it was the Orioles just traded a rental player for a rental player like if the Orioles traded Machado for Harper today. However, it was just a few months after the court ruling regarding the reserve clause and no one knew what it was going to do. The Orioles at the time certainly did a poor job of anticipating the impact of the court ruling. Jackson's holdout ruined the 76 season for the Orioles. At the time of the trade, the Orioles could of signed Jackson to a long term contract for a fraction of what they ended up offering him after he was a free agent. In addition, they renewed ten other players contracts with a 20% decrease salary possibly related to having to pay Reggie's 1976 salary. If you read comments from Jim Palmer and Wayne Garland it clear that there was a morale and chemistry issue. “I do not resent Reggie getting all that he can,” said pitcher Wayne Garland. “But I do not think it is fair that 10 others should take a cut so the ball club can pay Jackson more money. The standards should be no different for some than they are for another.” Through the first two weeks of the season, the Orioles and their much-vaunted slugger remained estranged. Jim Palmer, who made no bones about saying the trade for Jackson should never have been made in the first place, said Jackson’s failure to show up “has hurt the attitude of the club and our performance on the field” (the O’s were 6-8 at the time). “Do you think it ever occurred to Jackson that there are 24 other guys over here counting on him?” Palmer speculated. http://retrobaltimore.tumblr.com/post/142809936999/waiting-for-reggie In addition, no one really knows what Baylor would have done or if the Orioles still would of made a similar trade with the Yankee if they never made the Jackson trade. In addition, Mike Torrez was good pitcher in that era.
  13. Os requesting offers on Machado

    Hamilton was in the majors at the same age that Rogers was repeating high A. Lancaster is also the most hitter friendly park in baseball. Rogers went unclaimed in rule V and is not listed among the Rockies top 20 prospects by Baseball Prospectus. Hamilton was a consensus top 50 prospect from the time he stole 48 bases in 69 games in rookie ball at 19.
  14. If you are putting trades in tiers, I think there is one more that belongs in the top tier. It is incredible how one sided this trade was. December 4, 1974 Ken Singleton, and Mike Torrez for Dave McNally, Richie Coggins and minor league Bill Kirkpatrick. Obviously Singleton was a very good player for the next decade. Torrez won 20 games in 1975 before being part of the ill fated Reggie Jackson trade. Coggins played sporadically for several teams over a couple years. He never came close to the duplicating the promise that he showed in 1973. McNally was terrible for the Expos for a few months after being so good for the previous seven years with the Orioles.He was likely damaged goods. McNally last pitched in June of 1975 but took baseball to court with Andy Messersmith and became baseball's first free agent. Kirkpatrick never reached the majors.
  15. Os requesting offers on Machado

    I would shocked if the Cardinals are offering both Wacha and Flaherty. They would have to acquire several starting pitchers.