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spiritof66 last won the day on June 22 2017

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  1. spiritof66

    Now that the dust has settled

    And he's not so hot at the nuances of the IF, at least not when you move him around. That's why I don't see him as a useful utility guy. I think he's either a stopgap SS or he's gone, and to be acceptable as the latter he'll have to look a lot better defensively between now and October.
  2. spiritof66

    The heir apparent O's owner

    When I tried, I was unable to figure out how much of the Orioles Angelos owns. He started at 60 percent and has bought out other investors. I think I estimated that he owns somewhere between 75 and 80 percent. The Orioles and the Nats own MASN. The Orioles own about 78 percent of MASN, and that decreases by 1 percent each year until it hits 67 percent. The Nats own the rest. I think the $2.1 billion comes from Forbes, the only source of these estimates I know of. It seems pretty reasonable even though I'm sure there's a lot of guesswork involved, in addition to the uncertainties about MASN. There would be at least a potential problem with a will or trust provision giving John and Lou control of the team. If he gives Mrs. Angelos less than the full benefits of ownership of that asset, he runs the risk that the IRS will say he hasn't "really" given the asset to his spouse, and the transfer might be deemed to be, in part, to his sons and not to his spouse, triggering an obligation to pay estate taxes. How all that works is well beyond me. I'm not sure what the reference to Angelos law firm is intended to mean. Several posters have asserted that the Angeloses would have a legal claim against MLB or its owners if they didn't approve the transfer, but none has said what that claim would be. They can sue, but I can't imagine they would win: every owner bought the team knowing it was subject to the MLB Constitution, which requires consent to a transfer without any of the conventional limitations on the withholding of consent.
  3. spiritof66

    Now that the dust has settled

    I don't understand putting Trumbo at 1B, unless it's to enhance his marketability. I want to see how Mancini does there. He hasn't looked terrific, but give him a chance to play there regularly and see how he does. He's not the future LFer. He might be a future 1Bman. I would reserve judgment on Beckham until seeing how he looks defensively the rest of the season. If he doesn't improve, I don't want him back. I'd rather save that money and bring in a good fielding SS to help the defense, even if he won't hit at all, a Janish type. We need to find a SS, and while there's always a chance of getting lucky, I think the surest -- far from sure, but the surest -- way to get one is through a high draft choice. While I don't dispute the conventional wisdom that you should go after the best player regardless of position in the draft, I think you have to temper that a little when you are in need of a catcher or shortstop, especially if you don't have much access to talent at those positions through international free agent signings. If you get talented position players, they might turn into, or be turned into, corner outfielders, 1st 2d and 3d basemen, or even CFers. But that's not likely to give you catchers and shortstops -- they flow toward the other positions because of defensive shortcomings. You've got to draft them, sign them or trade for them.
  4. spiritof66

    The heir apparent O's owner

    One small wrinkle. It's become increasingly common for those who want to maintain secrecy about their assets, and where those assets go when they die, to bequeath assets through a living trust instead of a will. The trust accomplishes essentially the same things as a will. A key advantage is that when the maker of a will dies, a will is filed in probate court and is available to the public, while a trust document is not publicly available. Sounds like something that might appeal to Peter Angelos. It appears from a quick internet search that such trusts work, and are used, in Maryland. But I don't know that. https://www.legalzoom.com/articles/create-a-living-trust-in-maryland
  5. spiritof66

    The heir apparent O's owner

    You're right that by leaving his interest in the team (including his indirect interest in MASN) to Mrs. Angelos, Peter Angelos would defer the estate taxes on that asset until her death. You're also right that virtually all the discussion about the future of the Orioles has looked to Peter either leaving the team to his sons or selling it -- the only mentions I've seen about a possible transfer to Mrs. Angelos have been in Hangout threads. In thinking about this issue over the past few years, I've made internet searches on Mrs. Angelos and have come up just about empty. An inheritance plan in which the surviving spouse inherits most of the deceased spouse's assets, after specified amounts to relatives, charities, etc., is very common, and it's pretty straightforward when the assets are stocks, bonds and other passive investments. The situation gets more complicated with bequeathing an asset like majority ownership of the Orioles -- a complex business that is intimately identified with one spouse and not the other, especially where the asset is extremely valuable but faces time-sensitive challenges and decisions at the time of the first spouse's death. Here there's the added factor that the transfer can't be effective without the approval of a majority of MLB's owners. Not knowing anything about Mrs. Angelos or her relationship with her husband and sons (I'm assuming that this is Peter's only marriage), I can speculate about a bunch of reasons why Peter Angelos's will might not leave his interest in the Orioles to her: she may not want to own the Orioles, or he may not trust her judgment in running the team or hiring people to run it, or he may not be willing to rely on her leaving John and Lou in place as the decision-makers, or he may believe she would sell the team right away, or her relationship with John or Lou or both may not be good, or she may have her own health issues, or he may want to see John and Lou installed as owners right away, without potentially waiting another 15 or 20 years, when they'll be in their 60s. (It appears Mrs. Angelos is about 28 years older than John.) Who knows? Not me. One thing I am pretty clear on is that a transfer of a controlling interest to Mrs. Angelos is far from certain to obtain the required approval of 15 other MLB owners. Aside from the deep enmity that MLB has for Peter Angelos, which his widow might have a problem distancing herself from, it appears that Mrs. Angelos has had no role in running the Orioles and, so far as I can tell, has no business or financial experience of any kind. It also appears she would have no significant source of future revenue outside of the Orioles (and MASN) to devote to the team should there be a need to do so. Apart from asking to become the only woman in the owners' club, Mrs. Angelos would differ from, I believe, every other owner in that all have had substantial business and/or finance backgrounds, and all have other business interests and income. A vaguely related point. Much of the discussion about post-Peter Angelos ownership of the Orioles has been in terms of his leaving the team to his two sons. If Peter leaves half his interest in the team to each, neither will own a controlling interest in the team. MLB will not -- and I'm pretty certain of this -- approve a transfer that leaves the sons sharing control of the Orioles, raising the prospect of disputes, uncertainty and even deadlock over the team's future. One of the sons, presumably John, would have to be given control of the team, either through majority ownership or a contract between them. One approach that I think would make sense in terms of how it would fly with the other owners, in light of my very limited knowledge about the situation, would be for Peter to leave to John (a) enough of his interest in the Orioles to give John 51 percent ownership and control of the team and (b) some portion of his other assets for future investment of the team, and to leave the rest to Mrs. Angelos, deferring a big hunk of his estate taxes. That would allow John to make his pitch to MLB and the owners about how he would try to get along with them and with the Commissioner in a way that would differ from the pattern of the past 25 years.
  6. spiritof66

    "GM" & Manager: What are your wishes?

    Based on everything I've seen, Buck needs to go. Duquette raises a tougher issue for me. I am sure there are people out there who would be better choices to lead this team through a three- to five-year rebuild, but I don't know whether the Orioles can attract any of them, and there is a chance for a real disaster (though I think the Brady bullet has been dodged). The Orioles have again become the laughingstock of MLB, face some very significant problems, and will either be run by an uncertain combination of a dying dictator and two middle-aged men who have no track record of anything but seem to have a thoughtful, potentially good approach or be sold to unknown buyers who may dump the existing GMs. The best solution might be to sign Duquette for two to three years, and as soon as possible identify and hire, with Duquette's help, one or two smart young assistants with an explicit understanding that he or she or one of them will be in line to succeed Duquette at a still-young age.
  7. spiritof66

    Brady helped with plan to convert Yacabonis to starter

    Nah. Camden Yards is too competently, imaginatively and professionally conceived and designed. Don't we have people who were hired to observe and assess which pitchers have the most potential to become major league starters? Shouldn't their judgment be trusted -- or, if not, shouldn't those people be replaced? What the hell is Brady Anderson doing getting involved in these decisions? What aspect of this failing organization is he going to get involved in next? Whatever he feels like, I guess. Maybe signing Adam Jones to a six-year contract. Or, having succeeded so brilliantly in turning Chris Davis back into an offensive force, converting him into the third baseman we need. I realize I'm over- simplifying things, but there are two basic possibilities here. Either the professionals whose job it is to decide how to develop and deploy Oriole pitchers as they advance through the minors are competent professionals, in which case they have to resent and be embittered by Brady's invasion of that precinct, or else they do need this sort of help, in which case they should have been replaced long ago. Somebody's got to straighten this out. There's a reason why an MLB franchise and its associated teams and employees are referred to as an "organization." Everything I know -- and there's plenty I don't know -- tells me that you need to have that quality to succeed. The Orioles don't seem to have a semblance of it. I know whose fault I think that is, but it doesn't matter. The question is who can and will fix it. I would be very surprised if John or Lou Angelos -- neither of whom, so far as I can tell, has ever organized anything other than maybe his desk or sock drawer -- can create something that works, but there's hope.
  8. Just displaying my ignorance here as to how this works. Who made the decision to hire Wasdin, and to whom does he report? What organizational relationship does he have with the MiL managers? With McDowell? With the MiL pitching coaches? With Buck? What does he do -- is he a roving MiL instructor of some sort? I thought there were others with that job who are called "instructors," not "coordinators." If someone on the Orioles wanted to prescribe a consistent pitching philosophy, the way Ray Miller did (or at least is reported to have done), who would do that? Would Wasdin be part of that? Is Wasdin involved in decisions about which pitchers in the system gets promoted, who gets released, who will be tried as a starter, etc? Who else is involved in those decisions other than the front office? Not knowing how these things work, I have looked at the Oriole manager, pitching coach and (to a degree) bullpen coach as the guys in charge of developing pitchers, including supervision of the MiL staff, but maybe that's just wrong. If someone could explain or point me to an explanation of how these pieces either are supposed to fit together in the Orioles system, or how in fact they do or don't fit together, I would appreciate that.
  9. spiritof66

    vs. RED SOX, 8/12 (Avoid the Sweep)

    I see a real difference in the Buck of a few years ago and Buck today. He now seems immune to criticism, suggestions, and trying out new players, strategies and approaches. I don't remember him being that way in 2010-14 (and maybe later), but maybe I just didn't notice it. Earl's biography is titled It's What You Learn After You Know It All That Counts. It's my impression, and this may be completely unfair, is that Buck no longer believes there's much left for him to learn. He knows that he's got a crap team, that he can't make these guys winners, so all he can do is put them out there and hope for the best while expecting the worst.
  10. spiritof66

    vs. RED SOX, 8/12 (Avoid the Sweep)

    I saw two of the Ks, and the statistic doesn't fully capture how overmatched and helpless he was in those ABs. Did he hit a foul ball today?
  11. spiritof66

    vs. RED SOX, 8/12 (Avoid the Sweep)

    Down by 3 in the ninth inning, the Orioles need baserunners. There probably is not a non-pitcher in MLB with a smaller chance of getting on against Kimbrel than Chris Davis. When Buck lets Davis bat in the ninth inning against Kimbrel, or doesn't challenge what appears to be a bad out-at-first call as he did last night, I think he's sending a message to the players and fans that he doesn't care that much whether the team wins. To me, that's indefensible. Sure, you want to see how the guys who represent the future will perform. That would explain letting Mullens or Mancini or Beckham or Wynns hit -- but not Davis. Unless Buck is following orders in not trying to win, I would tell him he's done, whether it's now or at the end of the season.
  12. spiritof66

    vs. RED SOX, 8/12 (Avoid the Sweep)

    It's not easy, or at least not common, for one team to be 48 1/2 games behind another one in August. When you watch them play against one another, you can see how that would happen.
  13. spiritof66

    Mr Tango has me confused.

    If every pitcher threw the same way, and every batter hit the same way, so that the only variable was the way the defense shifted, these results would be extremely informative. How significant those results are when each event that produces a hit or an out is affected by variations other than differences in the fielders' angles is way beyond me. The results are interesting, though, and don't seem to defy logic or experience. I think (but I'm not sure) the differences in pitching and hitting that affect each AB become less important as you have more data points, so that a chart like this with a million inputs would tell you more than one with 10,000 inputs.
  14. spiritof66

    vs. RED SOX, 8/12 (Avoid the Sweep)

    Maybe use this as a new sleeve patch to reflect diminished expectations for the team:
  15. spiritof66

    tell me again why Jace Peterson is starting?

    I'm with this. If I were managing this team, I would think about it in these terms. It's December 2018, and the Orioles face some decisions about what the 2019 roster will look like. For which guys would some playing time in August and September potentially be useful in making those decisions? Those are the guys I'm starting as much as I can (plus anyone the team wants me to showcase because there's still trade potential), and the others will get some playing time when I want to rest them or pinch hit or shore up the defense late in a game. Peterson would see very little action. Davis would be on the bench or DH most games because I want to see Mancini and Trumbo at first base. Once the game starts, if I'm the manager I'm using those guys to try to win the game, and everyone who's out on the field better be approaching it the same way.