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Good to keepnin mind that the team with the #1 pick picks first in every round not just the first. Its a huge advantage.

Amen to that. Now will we get to continue to enjoy it for a year or two or will he be traded post haste?

I thought this would be a good time to bump this thread. The upward trend took a little longer than I’d thought it would but. . .

Season ends today; we draft 3rd. Any advantage we gained from having unknown pitchers/hitters is gone. All our players have a book out now and their flaws are showing. Not a big surprise here but any illusion of competitiveness is gone with the wind. Let the race to the bottom begin. When does the mlb app start showing wildcard standings? It makes it easier to track the 1 draft pick race.

I have never seen it but I would imagine the Orioles have lots of propriety information not available to the public. I would also bet they will have lots more in the next year due to the new regime.

I would imagine if they have batted ball tracking tech in the minor league stadiums it would be easy have a program analyze and adjust which balls would have been homeruns in Camden yards. If someone is hitting poorly due to lots of long fly balls at the warning track in Norfolk vs someone else who is hitting weak ground balls then those are two different players.

You’re thinking they want to be better in 2019. It makes no sense at all to spend any money with a goal of improving results in 2019. The goal this year is not to field the best team. It is to save money, play whoever is cheap, develop future talent and lose a lot of games for higher draft status (rule 5 included).

He seems to be pretty good at his job. Ultimately it is the owner of a team who decides the worth of the player, no? He can hold his players out as long as he wants for more money but if he can’t find a buyer at that price then what power does he have to affect the game? If the player holds out too long to prepare for the season then that is on the player too, no?

Or he got paid hundreds of millions of dollars which changed the risk/reward equation on using performance enhancing drugs. Hell of an incentive shift. P.S. I have no proof but anecdotal observations and history of baseball

Thank you for the input. I knew the term “patent” was not exactly what I was meaning. The point is there are other types of protected property that could be considered owned by the team not the developer. I assume there are teams of lawyers who are in on this at the mlb level.

I’m not a lawyer either and I know intellectual property lawyers who make the big bucks because of the complexity that exists in the patent world. I guess we might have seen St. Louis with a suit against Sig and company if there was something enforceable when they left for Houston. It’ll be interesting going forward as technology increases if something blossoms that is considered patentable. If created while under the employ of the Orioles, would the Orioles own the rights?

Right. I can’t imagine anyone signing a non-compete in baseball.

“He believed Luhnow and Mejdal had taken proprietary data and algorithms with them, which he and his colleagues had spent thousands of hours to help develop.” That quote is from the article Frobby referenced. I wonder if a legal suit would ever happen over an algorithm? Is that something “in your head” or is that a specific code with a specific patentable proprietary thing? Apple and Samsung sue each other all the time for patent violations based on coding and the application of the codes.

I wonder if teams have employees and players sign binding non-disclosure agreements? I was thinking about all of the proprietary info inherent to these statistical analysis systems. I read in another post about the astros that players wouldn’t discuss specifics with other players. These clauses are fairly common in some industries where trade secrets are closely guarded.

I voted yes because it is incredibly annoying watching when you know a player is incapable of not hitting into the shift. If it is really possible that a new wave of players can adapt their skills to hit the other way enough to stop the shift then I might change my mind. I do doubt that there will be a glut of players that can hit the other way against the shift AND hit with any kind of authority. That I believe is a rare player.