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  1. turtlebowl

    Valencia should be cut

    I don’t think he should be cut. His blunder just seems like the norm. That to me is the bigger problem. This problem starts from the top. I used to defend Buck but he has lost this team. The problem is bigger than Buck but the teams lack of basic fundamentals and awareness for smart in game decisions falls on a manager.
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    Valencia should be cut

    I was watching Buck as he seemed irritated that the out ruling wasn’t overturned. His anger should have been directed at his player who just made one of the dumbest plays you can make. It’s a selfish act for Valencia as the only thing that happens if he is safe there is it builds his stats. Team is really hard to watch. Never seen so many silo shots in a game. It’s like all they want to do is hit .450 ft homers. They need to clean house ASAP
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    The turning point of this collape

    The most disturbing thing to me was how Showalter never got tossed when this all played out. Okay, I don't want my players hurt so I told them no retaliation. I am however going to go onto the field when he gets thrown at and challenge everyone. I;m pointing a finger into the Red Sox dugout and saying enough. I expect that his passive attitude toward what was going on had to rub some the wrong way.
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    The turning point of this collape

    Up until the point Buck always seemed to get more out of the roster than what you would think. I never thought he was a great in game manager but I always thought he created a chemistry that allowed the teams to excel. Obviously this disaster can't be all linked to one event but I think it is possible a little edge was lost. Plus you have to wonder what other manager wouldn't allow their players to protect a star player on their roster.
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    The turning point of this collape

    Early May of 2017, the O's are off to a hot start. After a controversial slide by Manny Machado agaist Dustin P, the Red Sox took several attempts to get even at the O's slugger. Besides some calls to the MLB office, it seemed the O's were instructed to take the high road and accept being bullied by one of their arch rivals. The players, especially Machado tried to stay subdued but this seemed to be Bucks instructions to not retaliate even though their star player is obviously being targeted. After the drama ended the Orioles seemed to start sliding in the standings and finally after a little run in August they seemed to completely quit on Showalter. Anyone here besides me believe that one event started the free fall for the team? Did having a manager not allowing his players go to battle for Machado take away that edge needed as a competitive player? Is that the event where Showalter lost this team?
  6. Someone can spike his Gatorade. Maybe Tejada can come back and give him a B12 shot.
  7. This is bad to say but of Pablo was still with Boston and they asked to trade him for Davis, I would of jumped at that deal. And this is for a guy that was cut, lol.
  8. I'm not the most knowledgeable with this stuff but off the top of my head I can't think of one contract in baseball that is close to being as bad as the Davis deal looks like now. I would take my chances with any reclamation project if there is one to trade Davis for.
  9. Chris Davis is done. Terrible swing with a poor approach. Always questionable to me when a player is a homerun hitter, signs a big contract and then falls off a cliff. Very suspicious to me. To your point though we are stuck with him. My guess is he remains a semi regular this year but eventually finds himself lower in the lineup, This off season we will be told how hard he is working to revamp his game. By next June he will be the same player he is now and then they finally just release him. From most of the insiders Davis would not be signed to this terrible contract if the owner didn't step in. Just another example of of Angelos getting involved where he shouldn't be. Baseball people should make baseball decisions.
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    Os requesting offers on Machado

    I was one of the those people that didn't think he should of missed fan fest because of the birth. My feeling was if they were playing the yanks that day would he of asked off from playing to attend the birth....not a chance. He had an excuse to get out of something he probably didn't really want to do (fan fest) and his boss let him out. I think you are right, in this instance if he is still an Oriole he will be made to attend and expected to say all the right things. Just not sure what that would be right now that would make anyone feel better about this whole situation.
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    Os requesting offers on Machado

    But why didn't all the teams know Manny was on the trading block prior to Orlando. I know we have no way of knowing but everyone seemed shocked that the O's were willing to listen to offers when the meetings started the week.. In fact the message being sent out by Dan last week was he expected Manny would remain an oriole. What changed? Was it the possibly the Yankees getting Stanton? Manny's contract shouldn't have been a surprise. Why didn't they have these proposals well before the meetings and then hopefully finalize a trade this week. Just wish I had a better understanding of the inner workings of the front office because from an outsider looking in, so much of it doesn't make sense.
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    Os requesting offers on Machado

    Totally agree. Still not sure if ownership understands this.
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    Os requesting offers on Machado

    I won't deny that I am not a patient person and because of that would likely be a terrible GM. We were in complete rebuild when the Bedard trade happened. That team had been terrible for some time with little hope in sight. This team in my opinion has scenarios where they can trade Manny for the right package, make some additional moves to compliment the package and still possibly put a good product on the field. An example of this is there are a couple pretty good 3rd baseman free agents that could fit and would lesson the blow of losing Manny in the lineup. You get a young pitcher in the trade, sign another free agent pitcher that is an inning eater and then sign a 3rd baseman and things may not bad for this year and actually much better for the future.
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    Os requesting offers on Machado

    If the O's owner believes that the White Sox plan is to ship him to NY I could see him preventing any trade from happening. I think someone posted a couple pages back that they could have a hand shake agreement with Chicago that they can't do this but that sounds rediculous to me. Chicago gives you the players we ask for and then Manny becomes WS property. How can you tell a team that you can't trade him to the Yankees afterwards. This again is starting to look like another situation where the front office appears totally dysfunctional. You can't stop the Yankees from signing Manny in 11 months so if they have the best prospects to offer take the deal from them.
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    Os requesting offers on Machado

    I've been saying this through this whole process. Manny isn't a salary dump that can be done in February. The team picking him up will likely need to make follow up moves to prepare their rosters for this season. I would imagine teams will eventually say, "we can't wait on the O's" and move on with the off season.
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